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notoriousdoc
06-11-2005, 12:42 PM
No matter how much money you raise and throw at third world countries there will always be a corrupt dictator to siphon it away. All aid to Africa is pointless until fair leaders are installed into the countries

RXP
06-11-2005, 12:49 PM
I generally agree, but apparantly regime change doens't work. Heh.

Preecey
06-11-2005, 12:51 PM
No matter how much money you raise and throw at third world countries there will always be a corrupt dictator to siphon it away. All aid to Africa is pointless until fair leaders are installed into the countries
Yeah. That's what happened in Somalia. You seen Black Hawk Down?
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RXP
06-11-2005, 12:53 PM
Black Hawk down is such a good film. Shame mots pretenious fuckers overlook how it represents warefare for their hippy ethics.

notoriousdoc
06-11-2005, 12:57 PM
If I have one motto, it's "Never put a Irish man down, he'll come back to haunt you"

Preecey
06-11-2005, 12:59 PM
Really? I never had the urge to push an Irish man down.
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RXP
06-11-2005, 01:01 PM
Anally penetrate?

Preecey
06-11-2005, 01:02 PM
Well, once, but.....hey! This isn't about me!
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notoriousdoc
06-11-2005, 02:01 PM
It could be, if RXP wants to talk about anal then nothing will stop him

darko
06-11-2005, 02:04 PM
its kinda nice that they are trying again, but i feel it going to turn into the "flogging of a dead horse"

Preecey
06-11-2005, 02:04 PM
Well black hawk down (this film tells me all I need to know about politics) showed in the beginning where the government of Somalia took the food trucks as their own.
Anal penetration has nothing to do with it. Unless that was in the directors cut.
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notoriousdoc
06-11-2005, 02:13 PM
Well black hawk down (this film tells me all I need to know about politics) showed in the beginning where the government of Somalia took the food trucks as their own.
Anal penetration has nothing to do with it. Unless that was in the directors cut.

No, it was in the sequel; Pink pigeon down: Anal penetration

Preecey
06-11-2005, 02:15 PM
Hahaha, sounds like gay pride!
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darko
06-11-2005, 05:14 PM
think the G8 summit is going the same way

notoriousdoc
06-12-2005, 02:45 AM
If white people hadn't gone there in the first place they would still be wearing grass and dung and killing each other a little more pointlessly than they do now. It's quite obvious that they can't rule over themselves. I'm not being racist but they just can't do it!

Jesus
06-12-2005, 02:53 AM
No matter how much money you raise and throw at third world countries there will always be a corrupt dictator to siphon it away. All aid to Africa is pointless until fair leaders are installed into the countries

1) Fair leaders aren't installed
2) 99% of all leaders aren't fair, not like we're any better in Europe
3) Aid is pointless when we basically receive more back via trade.
4) I don't think "aid" is the right word either since it's usually given under strict neo-liberal conditions.
5) Them opening markets won't help their development significantly, they need to be "allowed" to be protectionist for a period (probably long) while they keep on receiving aid.
6) Since the IMF and the World Bank started imposing their conditions on the developing countries the annual median per capita income growth dropped from 2.5% between 1960-1979 to a fascinating 0.0 % between 1980-1998.

notoriousdoc
06-12-2005, 02:57 AM
1) Fair leaders aren't installed
2) 99% of all leaders aren't fair, not like we're any better in Europe


1) But they've got to be better than the ones in now
2) No, I suppose not

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Jesus
06-12-2005, 03:03 AM
After my exams are over.

What would a so-called better leader do then? Those countries got a nation state imposed on them, have hardly any administration, have hardly any issues they can decide on because of all the restriction and conditions they got because of "aid" and us Westerners deciding what is best for them.

And when they finally unite like in 2003 at the world trade talks in Mexico what do we do? We "destroy" the talks.

notoriousdoc
06-12-2005, 03:06 AM
At least be democratic

wheelchairman
06-12-2005, 05:02 AM
1) But they've got to be better than the ones in now



You..like...what? Willfully ignore European colonial history and the history of regime change?

These people become Qvislings, and rightfully so. A foreign army moving things around, is a gaurantee for the failure of democracy.