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Flexing Wings
06-13-2005, 10:53 AM
I know people who believe that music simply has no place for politics.
(Bear with me, as it's quite hard to do this opinion justice with articulacy, when it is not my own, but I am trying...)
One of the reasons people have used to support this is that using the influence of music and the popularity of a particular musician to sway people's opinions is just as contrived and assumingly brain dead in principle as a politician manipulating statistics and kissing babies to gain favour.
They would argue that music should be about reaching out to people and moving them and not trying to make people think a certain thing or change anyone's opinion.

I personally believe slightly different; that music is about personal expression and message and everyone‘s right to that, but in the sense of having the effect of stirring up like-minded people into standing together on a subject they believe in…

Just thought it had the potential to be an interesting thread and wanted to know what do people thought? And why?

wheelchairman
06-13-2005, 11:23 AM
I wish more artists would do politics. Except for Bono, I wish he'd take a vow of silence.

Flexing Wings
06-13-2005, 11:29 AM
I wish more artists would do politics. Except for Bono, I wish he'd take a vow of silence.

I guess I'm kind've on the wrong forum to find out about why people don't want politics in music... but hehe I do agree with you...

CaptainStanky
06-30-2005, 11:48 AM
I think its good to give people an idea of whats going on, that they wouldn't know anything about and they can research themselves...If it wasnt for Leftover Crack I wouldnt have known about the M.O.V.E 9 or "The Toothfairy Project"

Green_Day
06-30-2005, 12:12 PM
i love politic lyrics... when i agree with them... u should listen to anti-flag

T-6005
06-30-2005, 12:18 PM
I like Anti-Flag, but that's probably because I don't listen to the lyrics.

I don't listen to the lyrics of most bands. Flashlight Brown's got about my type of lyrics though.

Green_Day
06-30-2005, 12:21 PM
I like Anti-Flag, but that's probably because I don't listen to the lyrics.

ok.. lol, listen to the lyrics... anatomy of your enemy n a new kind of army r really good

T-6005
06-30-2005, 12:43 PM
I like the songs, didn't I say that? I couldn't care less about the lyrics of most bands.

Most of the music I like makes me hate myself if I listen to the lyrics - they're just so BAD.

Panzerfaust92
07-02-2005, 05:24 PM
Boysetsfire is a great musical political band, but they don't necessarily encourage people to share their beliefs.

Sin Studly
07-02-2005, 05:40 PM
Politics have no place in music because all the political bands suck. Just look at U2 and RatM. Suck. Buckets of suck.

Dead Cheerleader
07-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Bands being political is nice. They are basically lazy people who don't want to actually fight to change things singing to other lazy people who feel better when they hear angry political lyrics and opinions. It keeps the masses at bay. This is not meant to be diminutive in any way.

Sin Studly
07-02-2005, 11:41 PM
Actually, I changed my mind. Some political bands are cool.

"Oooh, when you see that yellow scum
A comin up the road
Will you turn the other cheek
Just like a gutless toad?
Or will you stand your sacred ground
And form in with the bats
Tell 'im 'e's not welcome 'ere
And give 'im sev'ral smacks

[chorus]
Smack him if he's yellow
Smack him if he's black
Smack him till he fucks off
And doesn't come back
Smack him in the bollocks
Smack him in the head
Smack him till he really hurts
Smack him till he's deeeeaaaaad

When he starts a snivelling
And pleadin for his life
Tell him that you're only sad
You missed his kids and wife
Tell him how your father fought
In wars not long ago
To save this country from the likes
Of fucking GI Ho

[chorus x2]"

Or theres this gem.

Fighting the system
Fighting the scum
The battles never over
Till the war is won
You're reaching for your switchblade
I'm reaching for my gun
Fourth Reich Fighting Men
Get the job done

[chorus]
Fourth Reich fighting men
That's who we are
We're living in the sewer
But we're gonna go far
You see us in the gutters
We're shouting hoorah
Fourth Reich fighting men
That's who we aaaaarrrreeeee!

Fighting the system
Fighting the war
You think theres not enough of us
There's gonna be more
We're gonna change the country
We're gonna settle scores
Fourth Reich Fighting Men
Winning the waaaar"

And I can remember the chorus of this one too.

"Führer Führer, what we done?
Now this country's overrun
By Jews and Blacks and Yellow scum
Führer Führer what do we do?
We should have left it up to you
Commies, fags and fucking jews

Führer Führer.... Führer Führer....

OUR DAY.... WILL COME!!!!!
WE'LL CRUSH.... THE SCUM!!!!!"