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the_GoDdEsS
06-20-2005, 02:50 PM
I need a little bit of light to be brought into this. I'm basically just copying a report I've just made but that's beside the point.

I don't exactly understand your banning policy. I know it's usually pornographic or offensive content. And there have been a few relatively respectable members banned out of the named reasons because they were being offensive often without a serious intention.

Anyway, but what about spamming and flooding? This LOdAt person has been flooding the forums extremely with annoying posts for weeks and always getting away with it. And on the other hand people who flame other members because they actually have a real reason to do so get banned because someone keeps on reporting them. Seriously.

I'm not even going to suggest IP bans. They'd help a lot maybe, especially with the spammers. But I'm not sure how any banning would remain completely objective. Especially after someone keeps reporting someone else just to get them banned because they have a problem with them.

Also what will be the role of moderators in this? Do they get to suggest bans?

Thank you.

the_GoDdEsS
06-20-2005, 03:12 PM
Thank you, I wasn't quite sure whether it was mentioned in the moderators thread.

SkunkIt
06-20-2005, 03:15 PM
i was wondering the same thing, how come flooders don't get banned?

Kerr
06-20-2005, 03:32 PM
i was wondering the same thing, how come flooders don't get banned?
I know, bladdy ridiculous. Although TTiG has said it all. IP banning I don't think is possible... is it? Apparently it isn't for forgotten reasons... And what's gonna stop a spammer using a different PC?

SkunkIt
06-20-2005, 03:58 PM
I know, bladdy ridiculous. Although TTiG has said it all. IP banning I don't think is possible... is it? Apparently it isn't for forgotten reasons... And what's gonna stop a spammer using a different PC?I think IP banning is a bad idea, because some people who didn't deserve to be banned were.

HeadAroundU
06-20-2005, 03:58 PM
"Sin studly" should be banned cause he is Racist
& he is extrenely offensive!!!

TheUnholyNightbringer
06-20-2005, 04:13 PM
I still don't know why TTiG is banned. He didn't flood, and as far as I can tell he was banned because people asked him to be. When will this stop? Can we go around reporting anyone we want and they'll get banned simply because they were asked to be? As far as I can tell TTiG never recieved an official reason, either.

I wouldn't mind if there was a little consistency. LoDat spams, and he hasn't been banned. Wishomie posts what could be described as pornographic and could be offensive. Yet his new account has not been banned. And yet TTiG was. Why?

Fly White Guy
06-20-2005, 04:58 PM
Turb0negr0 was also banned, and yet have I seen an explanation.

ruroken
06-20-2005, 05:16 PM
Turb0negr0 was also banned, and yet have I seen an explanation.
Yeah what the fuck?

Linda
06-20-2005, 09:21 PM
It's already been explained.

What Will A Moderator Do?
A moderator will be able to remove postings and threads and suggest users to be banned to the administrators. Moderators will be instructed that only posts, threads and users which include the following can be removed or banned.

1) Private Information - The band's or anyone else's
2) Pornography/Graphic Images - We have visitors of all ages and we'd like to keep it that way

the_GoDdEsS
06-20-2005, 09:40 PM
"Sin studly" should be banned cause he is Racist
& he is extrenely offensive!!!

That is just ridiculous.

I'm against banning people who bring controversy to this board to get certain reactions out of people. Even though these reactions might be strongly negative. But that's part of discussion or call it fierce debate or whatever. At least it isn't dull in here. And people just won't understand and go on classifying things as 'evil' right away without identifying the purpose of the seemingly offensive content first.
Being controversial brings the risk of being misunderstood.

And I don't understand the banning of 'This thread is gay' either.

Endymion
06-20-2005, 09:47 PM
i'm not sure what sort of control you get with public hosting like rackspace, but if the board were on a private server it'd be ridiculously easy to ip ban people.

Jesus
06-21-2005, 02:57 AM
I'm not even going to suggest IP bans.

Good, because that would lead to banning complete IP ranges since most people don't have fixed a IP anyway. So you would block out a bunch of people for no reason, which aint fair (except when it happens to Britain ofcourse).

Kerr
06-21-2005, 05:29 AM
I wonder actually.... why the fuck WAS TTiG banned?! TripBoy only got banned after he posted goatse and lemon party, which was why Not Ozymandias got banned too. I don't think it was down to people complaining - the admin must have just browsed threads, saw who posted goatse and lemon party, and just banned them. Which is unfair, giving that LoDAT hasn't been banned when he was a total pain. I really don't think Tripboy was banned for being offensive, otherwise Sin Studly would be banned now too.

This board desperately needs mods.


Turb0negr0 was also banned, and yet have I seen an explanation.

I wonder why he was too.

Dexter_H
06-21-2005, 06:18 AM
IP banning won't work anyway. It's not exactly hard to run through a proxy.

clokey43
06-21-2005, 07:19 AM
Im a admin of a forum room and we use ip banning. We go about it by first warning the member that something they have posted / said is against the rules (and deleting/ editing that post) if they continue to post in this manner then we ban them!

So far when we have warned people they tend to stop only had to ban one!

The forum is alot smaller than this one so not sure how it would work here. Probably wouldnt!

Endymion
06-21-2005, 07:56 AM
IP banning won't work anyway. It's not exactly hard to run through a proxy.
yeah, but it's annoying.

JohnnyNemesis
06-21-2005, 08:56 AM
Although I agree that LODAT should have been banned a long time ago and that he does post worse and more offensive shit than anyone else, I think I should point out that it took years for Justin to be banned, so "fairness" isn't an issue here. "Sense", however, is, and LODAT should have been banned ages ago.

turn0negr0 was banned for absolutely no reason whatsoever, which is extra weird.

Flexing Wings
06-21-2005, 09:05 AM
Sorry to sound like a Ret, but what is "IP" banning???

administrator 5
06-21-2005, 09:09 AM
I need a little bit of light to be brought into this. I'm basically just copying a report I've just made but that's beside the point.

I don't exactly understand your banning policy. I know it's usually pornographic or offensive content. And there have been a few relatively respectable members banned out of the named reasons because they were being offensive often without a serious intention.

Anyway, but what about spamming and flooding? This LOdAt person has been flooding the forums extremely with annoying posts for weeks and always getting away with it. And on the other hand people who flame other members because they actually have a real reason to do so get banned because someone keeps on reporting them. Seriously.

I'm not even going to suggest IP bans. They'd help a lot maybe, especially with the spammers. But I'm not sure how any banning would remain completely objective. Especially after someone keeps reporting someone else just to get them banned because they have a problem with them.

Also what will be the role of moderators in this? Do they get to suggest bans?

Thank you.
I'm going to ban you if you keep complaining.

administrator 5
06-21-2005, 09:10 AM
Sorry to sound like a Ret, but what is "IP" banning???
You can't access this website. I'll ban your IP so you can see how it works.

the_GoDdEsS
06-21-2005, 09:15 AM
I'm going to ban you if you keep complaining.

I'm not complaining, I'm expressing my opinion on a discussion forum. And stop trying to sound so threatening. You're a joke and everyone knows that.

http://www.offspring.com/forums/showgroups.php?

HeadAroundU
06-21-2005, 06:56 PM
I can't tell if this is sarcasm. If it is, you need practice at making it humorous. If it isn't, you're a moron.

well.......shut the f**k up!
You are wise as MR.Henkey

Sinister
06-21-2005, 07:24 PM
Sorry to sound like a Ret, but what is "IP" banning???

every comp has what is known as an "IP adress" to go on the Net. and a site can deny a specific IP the access to its contents.

Sin Studly
06-22-2005, 07:44 AM
"Sin studly" should be banned cause he is Racist
& he is extrenely offensive!!!

Si idiot.
Prestaň odpovedať.
Pouvažuj nad samovraždou.

Flexing Wings
06-22-2005, 07:55 AM
every comp has what is known as an "IP adress" to go on the Net. and a site can deny a specific IP the access to its contents.

So basically it would prevent people from simply creating another sign in name and rejoining???

JohnnyNemesis
06-22-2005, 07:59 AM
Si idiot.
Prestaň odpovedať.
Pouvažuj nad samovraždou.

Heh heh heh heh heh... (http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9621)

Sin Studly
06-22-2005, 08:13 AM
Ricky, chcem hrýzť tvoje sexy plecia zatiaľ čo ťa opriem o stenu na špinavej uličke a budem ťa volať moja hriešna kurva sexysuka! *licks lips*

Hell, I should only do it to people who won't understand what I'm saying, otherwise Jenny would be wrong and we all know how bad she hates that.

JohnnyNemesis
06-22-2005, 08:19 AM
I have no idea what the first half of that means (yet), but I notice you're typing in English in the second half! PFFFFFFFFFT! I bet you learned that language from "educational institutions" and people called "teachers". You actually got HELP in that subject! LOSER!!!

the_GoDdEsS
06-22-2005, 08:23 AM
I can only assure you the first half was very, very hawt.

JohnnyNemesis
06-22-2005, 08:35 AM
Really? Should my hand be moving fast or slow right now?

HornyPope
06-22-2005, 12:00 PM
Good, because that would lead to banning complete IP ranges since most people don't have fixed a IP anyway.

Here's what I did on the old board:

I would ban the four strings of the IP. Most of the spammers are annoying little kids who have no clue how the IP ban works at all so they'll just cry at the screen to find out that they're banned and never come back. That's the standard scenario. For the the minority who are smart enough to disconect, reboot the modem/router and sometimes even run the ipconfig /release command (depending on your ISP settings- some are very strict about reseting given IPs), what I do is just watch their screen name for the next five minutes and if I see that they switched IPs, I ban them again. :D This time I make it a three-string ban. I usualy keep the ban effective for around 30 minutes so the odds of someone on the BBS being affected as a result are very slim.

The key to remember here is that the administrator/moderator has the tools to his disposal to offset the game of the spammer. If he persists, so do you. Keep on banning him and re-banning him until he has no longer any fun playing. And if he finds a proxy? Ban it. He finds another one? Ban it again. And obviously you prune his posts right when the ban is applied so it's like he never existed.

It's really that simple. How many spammers we had during my two-year control? Exactly.

the_GoDdEsS
06-22-2005, 12:35 PM
It's really that simple. How many spammers we had during my two-year control? Exactly.

Amen.

And a round of applause for Vlad.

Noodles is gay
06-22-2005, 12:38 PM
So...I should stop reporting people then? ;)

Sinister
06-22-2005, 02:25 PM
(extremely brilliant stuff)

good job ! you're a Quebecker, rite ?
haha, Quebeckers are the best ! (j/k)

HornyPope
06-23-2005, 03:49 AM
Why did you end your sentance with "j/k"? I'm not kidding when I say I rule.

Jesus
06-23-2005, 04:06 AM
It's really that simple. How many spammers we had during my two-year control? Exactly.

Well since registration was fucked and no new members could register...

But yeah if you do it like that (an ip (range) ban that doesn't last longer than 30 mins) it might work. Although the odds of someone getting affected by it get bigger when the country/isp gets bigger although we'd all get affected by spam too.

So yeah if there is someone crazy enough like you to do that, I'm all for it.