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Hysteria
07-07-2005, 02:38 AM
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1188265,00.html

Shit.

WebDudette
07-07-2005, 02:43 AM
Yeah I just heard about that from a friend I can't bring up the link though was it terroist or what.

Orange County
07-07-2005, 02:45 AM
Yeah, London is under attack. Its been coming. :(

darko
07-07-2005, 02:45 AM
FUCK....Havent even watched tv yet this morning...

Obie2trice
07-07-2005, 02:50 AM
Just heard it, FUcking terrorists,

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 02:51 AM
Indeed, BBC have an article too, bit more factual.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659093.stm

Piedude
07-07-2005, 03:22 AM
Just got told about this, sounds pretty bad at the moment, although noone seems to be telling us any major details

RXP
07-07-2005, 03:26 AM
Yeah 20 are dead already. THey've shut down a lot of mobile phone masts too incase of remote detonations so lots of friends/family can't get thru to people. I coudln't get thru to some people.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 03:39 AM
hmm... i'm sorry for ppl in london. was alberto de monaco who said that madrid wasn't good for hostin the olympics games for the terrorism?
(i don't mean we had to win, i don't want olympic games here, it sux)

fucking terrorists :mad:

edit->i've heard it was alqeda (can't fucking spell)

RXP
07-07-2005, 03:41 AM
Yeah it's such a sad world. One day the whole city is celebrtating winning the olympics. Everyone was happy and the next day this happens.

*sigh*

Piedude
07-07-2005, 03:44 AM
I heard its 2 dead so far and loads injured, and bbc are hearing somewhere its Al Queda

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 03:48 AM
I heard its 2 dead so far and loads injured, and bbc are hearing somewhere its Al Queda

i heard it on the spanish news, i hope it's not true. all terrorists are heartless, but alqueda terrorsits... (remember 11-M, in madrid)

neocon58
07-07-2005, 03:58 AM
jesus fucking christ.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 03:59 AM
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!

I just got up and bloody hell...fucking twats

shit....I was in London just last week :eek: and again in 2 weeks time. holy shit. I knew they'd probably wanna get London but damn, actually doing it. shit.




Green_Day: it's most certainly true.

neocon58
07-07-2005, 04:00 AM
check out the bus, fuckin ripped in half

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 04:00 AM
why oh why, this is sad...damn terrorists!

neocon58
07-07-2005, 04:01 AM
the cunts. it was inevitable, unfourtunately.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 04:03 AM
the cunts. it was inevitable, unfourtunately.

well I have been kind of half expecting it, but to actually have it happen is something quite different. And after the Olympic result yesterday too...

I don't know whether to use the sad smilie or the angry one.

clokey43
07-07-2005, 04:05 AM
Yes, London was hit, knew it was coming eventually right? Perfect timing, right after olympic announcement and with G8 in Scotland. Bastards. I have grandparents stuck in London because of this, at least I know they are ok though. Hope everyone else's family is ok.

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 04:05 AM
This isnt what we needed, London thrown into chaos....not after the result of the Olympics..... :confused: / :mad:

clokey43
07-07-2005, 04:07 AM
Whoever has done it, done it on purpose, we already know they plan things to have maximum effect!

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 04:08 AM
Whoever has done it, done it on purpose, we already know they plan things to have maximum effect!

it's pretty obvious who's done it. I mean, who else could it be?

clokey43
07-07-2005, 04:11 AM
Very true, I heard on tele few mins ago that Alqueda (sp, im having a blonde moment) have already claimed it! It makes me sick!

neocon58
07-07-2005, 04:11 AM
obviously done to coencide with the G8

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 04:12 AM
obviously done to coencide with the G8

yep, n don't forget iraq war

edit. blair is guilty, that's for sure

dexterisMYman
07-07-2005, 04:13 AM
what the fuck is this world coming 2? im watching the news right now. its crazy. ppl r so fucked up!

Mannen som blev en gris
07-07-2005, 04:13 AM
So.... At least you guys are alive :)

platinumpt
07-07-2005, 04:15 AM
Nobody needs this... not London, not Madrid, not New York... not even the next target, which we still don't know who's gonna be...

But this is the fucking world in which we live in... I'm sorry for London, this is really sad... honestly I don't give a fuck about the olympic games, and I don't care this happened one day later it could happen yesterday, it would be the same... I think much worst is this happening a few days after Live 8... that is sad...

neocon58
07-07-2005, 04:16 AM
who's next? australia, italy, france?


Let's work our way through the list of American Allies.

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 04:17 AM
Nobody knows. I'm glad I don't live in London, although I'm only 2 hours drive away.

RXP
07-07-2005, 04:17 AM
The thing is shit like this happens every day in other countries. But when it's on your home soil, when it's to stations you been to, seen, commute everyday to it's just different.

I hate to say it, but 30k a day die in Africa. Only a few have died today. The world is basically a big shit hole and anyone who denies that is deluded. Humanity to be wiped of the planet is the best thing that could happen. Cause we're just messed up in the head.

Chris
07-07-2005, 04:21 AM
my sisters up in london :s hope she's alright

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 04:22 AM
^ my brother's there, but my mum just rang him. Why don't you ring her?


I think much worst is this happening a few days after Live 8... that is sad...

Weird that it didn't happen on live 8? Everyone was using the underground then and it was pretty busy...


Hysteria: yeah, I live about 2 hours away too and it's just bloody weird



I've just noticed that the reports say that the bombs were at the back of the trains - wouldn't they have been more effective in the centre or even closer to the front of them?

clokey43
07-07-2005, 04:30 AM
No its not a surprise but still just because we arent surprised doesnt mean the people on the underground deserve to be hit like this. Im not entirely convinced that a presure group would go to such extents. Na its terrorism.

Piedude
07-07-2005, 04:31 AM
These bombs were probably intended for fear and to shut down London transport for a while, not to kill as many as possible.
I live a few hours away..in Wales, but my brother was on a trip to the British Museum there today, theyve all gone to Oxford instead now thankfully.

Chris
07-07-2005, 04:31 AM
Apparently there's been an explosion at Brighton, and Pompey bomb squad just arrived at the station - off the radio

clokey43
07-07-2005, 04:33 AM
Really? OMG I hadn't heard that! Wherever Next?

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 04:34 AM
These bombs were probably intended for fear and to shut down London transport for a while, not to kill as many as possible.

do u really believe what news say?naah, they wanna kill, panic, hysteria...

neocon58
07-07-2005, 04:41 AM
some europe-jihad ppl just 'claimed' responsibility.

neocon58
07-07-2005, 04:42 AM
do u really believe what news say?naah, they wanna kill, panic, hysteria...

according to some intelligence dude on tv right now, piedude is 100 percent correct. fuck up the transport system, incite fear, kill a few.

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 04:46 AM
From SkyNews:

"A terror group linked to al Qaeda has claimed it carried out a series of terror attacks on London that have left a number of people dead and hundreds injured."

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 04:49 AM
Apparently there's been an explosion at Brighton, and Pompey bomb squad just arrived at the station - off the radio

radio station = ?

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 04:50 AM
Was gonna ask the same thing.

JoY
07-07-2005, 04:52 AM
oh holy fuck..

this makes me scared. what if they attack my dear beloved Amsterdam? WITH ME FUCKING IN IT?! :(

clokey43
07-07-2005, 04:53 AM
Whatever their intentions they have causes loss of life and that isnt acceptable wether it is one life or a mulitude of them. Pathetic individuals, why do they insist we all have to do what they want us to. :mad:

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 04:55 AM
A mate just phoned his mate in Brighton and apparently their station is just closed.

However, my mate's mate is Polish and he just said that the main political building in Poland is on fire, and a bomb has gone off in Istanbul.

May I just state that this is not confirmed.

Aimeht
07-07-2005, 04:56 AM
My brother was going to London (flying) tomorrow or Saturday, now he can't???

JoY
07-07-2005, 04:57 AM
I don't fucking get it. why exactly are they attacking the entire world?

0r4ng3
07-07-2005, 04:58 AM
My brother was going to London (flying) tomorrow or Saturday, now he can't???
Just be thankful he wasn't there when it happened.

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 04:58 AM
However, someone in Brighton [from another forum] just said they could hear sirens...

neocon58
07-07-2005, 04:59 AM
However, my mate's mate is Polish and he just said that the main political building in Poland is on fire, and a bomb has gone off in Istanbul.


Can I say wtf?

Orange County
07-07-2005, 05:00 AM
I also heard Heathrow was bombed? confirm?

Aimeht
07-07-2005, 05:01 AM
Just be thankful he wasn't there when it happened.
Of course I am. I'm just wondering if he still can go there.

darko
07-07-2005, 05:06 AM
they are saying its terriorist....should have guessed summit was going to happen when the G8 sumit was on

Piedude
07-07-2005, 05:07 AM
Nothing at Heathrow, they just said the Airports are staying open so that sorta kills that rumour.
No Idea about Brighton, but i think someone said earlier Swindon train station was closed too.

neocon58
07-07-2005, 05:08 AM
I also heard Heathrow was bombed? confirm?

where did you hear it?

clokey43
07-07-2005, 05:08 AM
I havnt had any reports on tele of Brighton or Heathrow but that doesnt mean a thing. Again I hope all your family's are ok and not caught in this shit!

Chris
07-07-2005, 05:13 AM
radio station = ?

sorry can't help there, don't know what my mate's been smoking but it seems that just the stations closed for security checks

meaning_of_life
07-07-2005, 05:15 AM
yeh its pretty fucked up, its all over the news in australia, theyve ditched tv programs and gone onto covering the terrorist attack.

neocon58
07-07-2005, 05:15 AM
Wtf. Latest News Reports 50 Dead!!!

neocon58
07-07-2005, 05:16 AM
yeh its pretty fucked up, its all over the news in australia, theyve ditched tv programs and gone onto covering the terrorist attack.

apart from channel 9 (in south oz at least), stupid cunts got 'the footy show' on...

darko
07-07-2005, 05:16 AM
that number is only going to get bigger

Aimeht
07-07-2005, 05:19 AM
This is horrible. What's wrong with the world today?

meaning_of_life
07-07-2005, 05:19 AM
apart from channel 9 (in south oz at least), stupid cunts got 'the footy show' on...
ha im watching the footy show

RXP
07-07-2005, 05:26 AM
Yeha to be fair they don't need every channel doing it.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 05:27 AM
thank bush and blair for iraq war. the olympic games and the G8 r not the reasons, only cinrcumstances

RXP
07-07-2005, 05:32 AM
You're an idoit. Stop talking about Iraq. Go listen to some punk politics on Self Titled or something.

meaning_of_life
07-07-2005, 05:36 AM
thank bush and blair for iraq war. the olympic games and the G8 r not the reasons, only cinrcumstances
shut the fuck up.

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 05:45 AM
Couldn't have said it better.

spastic_ninja
07-07-2005, 05:45 AM
the death toll is up to 90, or so I heard. Australia is next. First America, now England. It's just not right :mad: :(

Tizzalicious
07-07-2005, 05:46 AM
That's bad! =/

Why the fuck do they say this on the news:

"The underground is closed"

YOU THINK?????

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 05:49 AM
here is where the blasts happend

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/Dan_is_god11/_41277669_central_londonblast5_map.gif

This was off bbc.co.uk

Hysteria
07-07-2005, 05:56 AM
Shit!

Over my town right now there's 6 army helicopters and a load of police helicopters behind them!

Nina
07-07-2005, 05:56 AM
WHAT last time i checked they said 2 dead people (i know that was naive to believe, but there's a HUGE difference between 2 and 50!). is it really 50 already or is that an assumption still?

Tizzalicious
07-07-2005, 05:57 AM
WHAT last time i checked they said 2 dead people (i know that was naive to believe, but there's a HUGE difference between 2 and 50!). is it really 50 already or is that an assumption still?

They said 2 5 minutes ago...

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 05:57 AM
I heard on the news they said 180 have been injured and 8 have died

Tizzalicious
07-07-2005, 05:58 AM
Which was on the BBC btw...

Pay The Man
07-07-2005, 05:58 AM
It is currently 2, however estimates of possible dead are 50+

Tizzalicious
07-07-2005, 05:59 AM
It is currently 2, however estimates of possible dead are 50+

Aaah, okay.

Still sad :(

Pay The Man
07-07-2005, 06:00 AM
Aaah, okay.

Still sad :(

Yeah of course. I am too, and completely shocked.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 06:01 AM
WHAT last time i checked they said 2 dead people (i know that was naive to believe, but there's a HUGE difference between 2 and 50!). is it really 50 already or is that an assumption still?

here in madrid (11-M), they said 10 dead ppl... then it raised, 192 dead ppl. n thousands of hurt ppl :( :mad:

Pay The Man
07-07-2005, 06:02 AM
here in madrid (11-M), they said 10 dead ppl... then it raised, 192 dead ppl. n thousands of hurt ppl :( :mad:

Yeah estimates/assumptions are that over 1000 could be injured.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 06:02 AM
You're an idoit. Stop talking about Iraq.


u know it's true. everybody knows.

meaning_of_life
07-07-2005, 06:06 AM
u know it's true. everybody knows.
youre making yourself out to be an idiot. are you? this thread is about the situation in london, not politics. therefore, shut your hole.

Pay The Man
07-07-2005, 06:07 AM
youre making yourself out to be an idiot. are you? this thread is about the situation in london, not politics. therefore, shut your hole.

100% agree. Iraq has no relevance at all.

Rag Doll
07-07-2005, 06:07 AM
WHAT last time i checked they said 2 dead people (i know that was naive to believe, but there's a HUGE difference between 2 and 50!). is it really 50 already or is that an assumption still?

Nina, here they're still saying 2 dead and 300+ injured. They *are* saying it's difficult to know for sure right now, so who knows. Hopefully it is only 2. I remember around 9/11, people were claiming 20,000+ dead....so, the numbers jumping up so high could be part of the hysteria.

This was just a lovely thing to wake-up to.... =\

neocon58
07-07-2005, 06:07 AM
u know it's true. everybody knows.

And thats the bottom line, coz Billie Joe said so.

Nina
07-07-2005, 06:09 AM
but i must say that when i heard of it, i immediatelly assumed 100+ dead people, and countless injured ones. i mean, doing that in LONDON, and even BEFORE noon is just..... wow.

oh, and at least one train is still stuck there, right?

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 06:10 AM
^ people are still trapped in the train in the King's cross tunnel.


here in madrid (11-M), they said 10 dead ppl... then it raised, 192 dead ppl. n thousands of hurt ppl :( :mad:

Just thought I'd clarify this:
2 are confirmed dead
180 are injured in one hospital
of those 180; around 120 have been released, and the other 60 are either 'critical' or 'serious'.

BBC news just now.

I don't know about other hospitals because, for some odd reason, they only gave the figures for one.

Tizzalicious: yes, the underground is closed. In fact, all public transport in London isn't running, this includes areas which weren't involved.

Green_Day: you are being retarded.

neocon58
07-07-2005, 06:12 AM
JGreen_Day: you are being retarded.

Indeed. Green_Day is looking at his wrist band "What Would Billie say"

Tizzalicious
07-07-2005, 06:12 AM
Tizzalicious: yes, the underground is closed. In fact, all public transport in London isn't running, this includes areas which weren't involved.



I know, I was just saying it was a bit pointless to say that, as it's kind of obvious that the underground is closed.

Rag Doll
07-07-2005, 06:14 AM
but i must say that when i heard of it, i immediatelly assumed 100+ dead people, and countless injured ones. i mean, doing that in LONDON, and even BEFORE noon is just..... wow.

oh, and at least one train is still stuck there, right?

Yeah, I thought so too...but glad it so far does not appear to be that way.

One of the very few people I like at work is going to London sometime today for a month. I'm not sure if he's there yet or not, but I'm extremely worried about him right now.

edit: us state dept just said 40+ dead.

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 06:19 AM
Oh my god :eek: did anyone see that blood all up the side of that building...thats terrible :confused:

Pay The Man
07-07-2005, 06:26 AM
According to sky news, up to 45 dead, however number changing all the time.

Nina
07-07-2005, 06:30 AM
edit: us state dept just said 40+ dead.

..yeah, i guess we all thought so.
you know...... GGRR. simple.

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 06:32 AM
They say Italy and other goverment places are next if they dont withdraw their troops from Iraq, but this is un-confirmed

pyrosk8er
07-07-2005, 06:37 AM
this sucks

i think the news here just said something about them continuing the G8 talks.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 06:39 AM
i think the news here just said something about them continuing the G8 talks.

yeah, Blair is coming down to London and Jack Straw is going up to take his place until this evening.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 06:41 AM
Indeed. Green_Day is looking at his wrist band "What Would Billie say"

ha
ok, alqueda has done it cause they don't like sport. give me a better argument why alqueda has attacked london.

edit: *is looking at her bla bla bla

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 06:42 AM
ha
ok, alqueda has done it cause they don't like sport. give me a better argument why alqueda has attacked london.

Because they're Islamic extremists and don't agree with the Western ideals and way of life?

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 06:46 AM
Because they're Islamic extremists and don't agree with the Western ideals and way of life?

if that's the reason why haven't they attacked other country? or why now? naah. open your eyes

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 06:47 AM
if that's the reason why haven't they attacked other country? or why now? naah. open your eyes

Another country hey? New York, Madrid? Hummmmm.....

It coincides with the G8 summit too.

Rag Doll
07-07-2005, 06:48 AM
Why now? Because everyone in London was so happy about getting the Olympics. It has nothing to do with anyone hating sports.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 06:51 AM
Why now? Because everyone in London was so happy about getting the Olympics. It has nothing to do with anyone hating sports.

That can't be that though; they only announced the result yesterday and it was actually pretty unexpected that we'd get them. The terrorists would have only had a very short amount of time in which to prepare all this, and it looks extremely co-ordinated and well planned - it couldn't have been organized so fast so must be because of the G8. The Olympic victory is perhaps just the 'icing on the cake'.

I think it's inevitable that they'd do it eventually after September 11th, so now's just convenient?

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 06:51 AM
u should watch the news. the letter says that they have attacked london cause uk killed lots of ppl in iraq.

rag_doll: the "hating sports" was sarcasm


edit: we posted at the same time

The Olympic victory is perhaps just the 'icing on the cake'.

just like the G8

platinumpt
07-07-2005, 06:53 AM
I'm not the one who made the world what it is today
I'm not the one who caused the problems started long ago
But now I deal with all the consequences that troubles our times
I carry on and never once have even questioned why

We're all innocent... this is all a matter of politics... but those guys who make the decisions are well protected... nothing like this will ever happen to them... so WE, the people, the innocents, have to deal with the consequences... the world is fucked up

Rag Doll
07-07-2005, 06:54 AM
That can't be that though; they only announced the result yesterday and it was actually pretty unexpected that we'd get them. The terrorists would have only had a very short amount of time in which to prepare all this, and it looks extremely co-ordinated and well planned - it couldn't have been organized so fast so must be because of the G8. The Olympic victory is perhaps just the 'icing on the cake'.

Or maybe they were only going to go through with it if London got the Olympics? I see why it is also related to the G8, but I would assume they would attack in Scotland then. You know what I mean? I think it's a lot of things combined, but the fact that yesterday everyone in London was so happy just makes this even more tragic.

And Green_Day, it is a bit difficult to determine with you if something is sarcasm or if you are just that stupid.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 06:55 AM
^ yeah, but say that Paris got the Olympics then would there be an attack there? Maybe they should be searching for the 'just in case' bombs now?

That doesn't make sense to me because if London didn't get the Olympics then the bombs may have been found today which is risky for terrorists and it will look like the police are one step ahead of them which they they just wouldn't want.


u should watch the news. the letter says that they have attacked london cause uk killed lots of ppl in iraq.

rag_doll: the "hating sports" was sarcasm

letter? link?

If it was revenge for the number of dead in Iraq then why today? Also surely they'd be aiming at maximum casualties if it was revenge – but in London there isn’t actually that many casualties. It appears that they were either just trying to show their power and disrupt the underground or that their bombs were positioned wrongly and weren’t powerful enough. I doubt that it’s the latter however because these terrorist groups are extremely well organized and wouldn’t make such a mistake.

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 06:58 AM
They've just said on BBC news that it wasnt a Terrorist attack, it was purley intentional to hurt innocent members of the working class public :confused:

platinumpt
07-07-2005, 06:58 AM
I guess you're right. It couldn't possibly related to the olympics, or they needed to have bombs in Madrid and in Paris too! And the American city, I'm not sure if it was New York, sorry.

I think it's not about the G8, which is in Scotland... so this is about politics as usual... if there is a reason for terrorism at all... this is horrible, I wish this didn't happen

rodney mullen
07-07-2005, 06:59 AM
man, al queda's a big bitch!!! :mad:

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 07:02 AM
letter? link?

If it was revenge for the number of dead in Iraq then why today?

u answered that question:
is perhaps just the 'icing on the cake'.


i don't have the link of the letter, al queda sent it to a german newspaper, i heard it in the news

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 07:04 AM
This is going to sound really bad but how long to people think it will take for London to get back to some state of 'normality'?

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 07:05 AM
They've just said on BBC news that it wasnt a Terrorist attack, it was purley intentional to hurt innocent members of the working class public :confused:

that's a terrorist attack, hurt n kill inocent ppl

offspring kid
07-07-2005, 07:16 AM
aaah damit now i cant visit london,i was going to visit my brother in london in a week or so :S

RXP
07-07-2005, 07:18 AM
This has everything to do with G8 and nothing to do with the olympics. It would have required months of planning. G8 gave them a date to do it. It has nothing to do with the olympics. Thei dea that they have 'wait and see bombs' is silly, cause they're terrosrists they woudln't not blow things up when they have the perfect opportunity to.

It's put G8 back, it's put climate change talks and Africa back. That in itself will kill more people than will actually die on this day.

Pay The Man
07-07-2005, 07:23 AM
Agreed. The media spotlight is on the UK with G8 and everything, it's the perfect time for a terrorist attack and to get the most coverage as possible.

the_GoDdEsS
07-07-2005, 07:23 AM
Ha, and I find out about this on the BBS. Haven't listened to the news much today. Just around noon and somehow they either did not say anything or I missed out.

clokey43
07-07-2005, 07:24 AM
Whatever it is, its sick. I seriusly think that our contries need to join together and everytime they attack us we blow the FUCK out of them. Soon there will be none of the cunts left to attack us, problem solved. Sod all the innocent women and kids, they certainly dont give a fuck when they blow us up do they?

RXP
07-07-2005, 07:25 AM
You're being gay. Stop it. The EU kills more daily from its agricultural policy than terrorsits. Go bomb the EU.

0r4ng3
07-07-2005, 07:26 AM
Whatever it is, its sick. I seriusly think that our contries need to join together and everytime they attack us we blow the FUCK out of them. Soon there will be none of the cunts left to attack us, problem solved. Sod all the innocent women and kids, they certainly dont give a fuck when they blow us up do they?
That's a stupid idea. It's a terrorist group, not one nation against us. Just because terrorists are situated in one country, that does not mean you can just blow up the entire country itself. Perhaps their government is on our side? We would just make a lot more enemies.

Kerr
07-07-2005, 07:27 AM
Yeah, I heard about it in school today. And on Saturday I have to go the the Hull Open Day by train, and the destruction had spread to Peterborough, which might obstruct my journey. Shit.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 07:32 AM
That's a stupid idea. It's a terrorist group, not one nation against us. Just because terrorists are situated in one country, that does not mean you can just blow up the entire country itself. Perhaps their government is on our side? We would just make a lot more enemies.

that's what bush did in iraq. and caused all this

[(i'm not gonna shut up about iraq)]

0r4ng3
07-07-2005, 07:33 AM
that's what bush did in iraq. and caused all this

[(i'm not gonna shut up about iraq)]
You make it sound like Iraq was a good idea, which had even less to do with anything.

clokey43
07-07-2005, 07:35 AM
I am aware it is a completley crap idea. It was an angry rant that obviusly in practice and closer inspection wouldnt work. Apologies for my naivity!

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 07:39 AM
You make it sound like Iraq was a good idea, which had even less to do with anything.


I seriusly think that our contries need to join together and everytime they attack us we blow the FUCK out of them.

no. i'm trying to show clokey43 that attacking a country to stop terrorism doesn't work.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 08:09 AM
I seriusly think that our contries need to join together and everytime they attack us we blow the FUCK out of them. Soon there will be none of the cunts left to attack us, problem solved. Sod all the innocent women and kids, they certainly dont give a fuck when they blow us up do they?

That wouldn't work because these terrorists involved today are almost certainly British citizens who have been persuaded by Al-Qaeda that bombing things is a good idea. We could easily bomb all muslim countries to bits but then we'd suffer major retaliation by muslims who live outside those countries, which would make the problem worse.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 08:15 AM
See? This is the failure of multiculturalism. A national identity would have made this even more of a slim chance.

Fucking terrorists. If they get the people who did this they should publically hang him. Or her.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 08:19 AM
yes, public hanging.

Although they still haven't determined if it was suicide bombers, in which case we wouldn't even be able to punish them if their identities were discovered. :rolleyes:

Preecey
07-07-2005, 08:21 AM
That's true. Mind you, it's very rarely all down to the suicide bomber himself. There are quite often people who get the equipment for them, too. I was really shocked when I heard about it. I couldn't get to a TV until about an hour and a half ago, so I was wondering how bad it'd be.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 08:21 AM
yes, public hanging.

Although they still haven't determined if it was suicide bombers, in which case we wouldn't even be able to punish them if their identities were discovered. :rolleyes:

the one in the bus was a suicide bomber

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 08:29 AM
^ ah, ok then. I imagine that the ones on the trains would be too because the chance of a bomb being found would be too great, and also they have cameras on the underground so if a bomb was planted I think that someone would notice (either via camera or someone else on the train).


That's true. Mind you, it's very rarely all down to the suicide bomber himself. There are quite often people who get the equipment for them, too. I was really shocked when I heard about it. I couldn't get to a TV until about an hour and a half ago, so I was wondering how bad it'd be.

But remember that the more people who are involved, the more chance of a leak. So they have to keep numbers down.

I know! I got up at 11.30 (:o) and my mum was watching it on the news - bit of a shock really. I kind of expected it but still...

notoriousdoc
07-07-2005, 08:35 AM
Sweet shit, I just found out when I got home from a school trip

RIP

Endymion
07-07-2005, 09:25 AM
this just in, death toll up to almost 2% of that of the 9-11 attacks.

just interested, how do you brits feel you should react? find those immediately responsible (suppliers of weapons, bombers, etc) and persecute them? any particular countries or decentralized groups that should be gone after, and to what extent? would you like the support of the US in any of this?


Bush crashes his bike into Scottish police officer

From Wikinews, the free news source that you can write!

July 7, 2005


U.S. (http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/United_States) President George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush) crashed his mountain bike into an unfortunate police officer in Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland).

Mr. Bush, who celebrated his 59th birthday last night was cycling on a bike around the Gleneagles hotel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleneagles_hotel), where he is staying for the G8 summit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G8_summit), when he, perhaps partially due to the bad weather, crashed into one of the police officers responsible for his and the other leaders safety.

The officer had to be taken to hospital having suffered a twisted ankle whilst Mr. Bush, who was wearing a helmet, only suffered minor bruises despite landing on asphalt. The president had to return to the hotel by van because the bike was too badly damaged.

Mr. Bush, who has had the term "bushism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bushism)" named after him is often ridiculed by the media and his detracters for making both physical and verbal blunders. In 2002 he hit headlines after almost dying after eating a pretzel, in 2003 when he fell off a Segway, and in 2004 when he fell off a mountain bike.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 09:36 AM
Are you saying because it's only two percent of the 9/11 attacks that makes it any better?

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 09:41 AM
Are you saying because it's only two percent of the 9/11 attacks that makes it any better?

that's what it seemed like to me too :mad:


In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."

how the fuck can they think that, seriously?! Surely killing people is wrong so they're making themselves no better than Bush or Blair? ARGH! The stupidity, obstinate attitude and ridiculousness of these idiots is just beyond comprehension.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 09:44 AM
how the fuck can they think that, seriously?! Surely killing people is wrong so they're making themselves no better than Bush or Blair? ARGH! The stupidity, obstinate attitude and ridiculousness of these idiots is just beyond comprehension.
I've often felt that way, too. I'm beginning to believe that where ever religious zeal is highest, so is the stupidity of the populice. That's one of the main reasons I became athiest.

Endymion
07-07-2005, 09:46 AM
Are you saying because it's only two percent of the 9/11 attacks that makes it any better?
no, of course not, just putting the numbers in perspective. just like i don't think the 9/11 attack were any "better" than the holocaust.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 09:48 AM
no, of course not, just putting the numbers in perspective. just like i don't think the 9/11 attack were any "better" than the holocaust.
Yeah, I see you have a point that it isn't hardly as major as the 9/11 attack. I just thought you were belittling it's significance. Sorry.

The-Offspring-RuLe
07-07-2005, 09:50 AM
33 Fatalities now confirmed

backstagebug
07-07-2005, 09:52 AM
fcuk terrorism :(

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 09:53 AM
I've often felt that way, too. I'm beginning to believe that where ever religious zeal is highest, so is the stupidity of the populice. That's one of the main reasons I became athiest.

yeah, I think it's ridiculous - I'd quite enjoy reading thir holy book to see exactly where it condones this kind of behaviour; it'd be a rather interesting experience.



Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan…

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused....

Shit, I just noticed that 'crusader' bit - they think it's a fucking holy war, Christianity against Islam! Now then…who was it that said that we’re launching a ‘crusade’ ( http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0902-06.htm ) in Iraq?

nb. read that article - tis actually pretty interesting.

Vera
07-07-2005, 09:56 AM
I hate this, people discussing the whys and how comes. Gah.

So of course I have to participate.

Olympics? Give me a fucking break.

Iraq. If you're with the USA, the terrorists are not going to like you.

G8, ditto. Has a lot to do with economy, industries. Kind of like how they attacked WTC. Trade. Capitalism. Powerful countries.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 09:57 AM
Shit, I just noticed that 'crusader' bit - they think it's a fucking holy war, Christianity against Islam! Now then…who was it that said that we’re launching a ‘crusade’ ( http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0902-06.htm ) in Iraq?
I noticed that, too (my brain just highlights that word). They seem to believe we are trying to wipe out Islam. You know, when there are so many who live here? And the mosques we so happily let them build? They just need to find some sort of text that backs up their case, so that they can excuse these horrific actions. And I mean the 9/11 attacks, too. And the beheadings.

Vera
07-07-2005, 09:59 AM
Shit, I just noticed that 'crusader' bit - they think it's a fucking holy war, Christianity against Islam! Now then…who was it that said that we’re launching a ‘crusade’ ( http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0902-06.htm ) in Iraq?
Of course they think it's a holy war, because it counters what they consider THEIR holy war, the Jihad.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 09:59 AM
Shit, I just noticed that 'crusader' bit - they think it's a fucking holy war, Christianity against Islam! Now then…who was it that said that we’re launching a ‘crusade’ ( http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0902-06.htm ) in Iraq?.

pss i'm not trying to justify the terrorists attacks but "we" [christians(can't spell)] did it 500 years ago. and they put all white ppl in the same bag so for them we r all guilty. don't do the same plz, i mean, don't turn into a racist for 6 o 8 stupid islamists (can't spell).

by the way, i'm not religious

platinumpt
07-07-2005, 10:08 AM
Of course they think it's a holy war, because it counters what they consider THEIR holy war, the Jihad.

Geeeeeezzzzz those guys make me real sick

Preecey
07-07-2005, 10:09 AM
It's so injust and ignorant, but they can't be told. It makes you pity the road humanity has gone down when it fails to look facts straight in the face, suspend diplomacy and embrace guns, bombs and rocket launchers.

Vicky
07-07-2005, 10:36 AM
Ha, and I find out about this on the BBS. Haven't listened to the news much today. Just around noon and somehow they either did not say anything or I missed out.

I found out from reading my LJ friends list, so you aren't the only one. :/

When I was on my way home, the bus station was full of extra security and nothing could go in the bins or anything. I wasn't sure why that was until I found out, and even then I wasn't sure. But my mum said its because the IRA put a bomb in there once. So I guess, if some places have had bombs planted there before, their security risk might be a bit higher, or something.

Camilamazed
07-07-2005, 10:43 AM
I might be wrong but it was something likely to happen.When there was a blast is spain I said , London is the next.
Those terrorist are restless.....
:(

Panzerfaust92
07-07-2005, 10:45 AM
I'm still shocked. I can imagine this happening, but not at this point in time.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 10:48 AM
But they didn't verify that the Madrid bombings were Islamic terrorists, did they? I always got the impression it was ETA. It's still a shame, though. To think that people who had nothing to do with the Iraq war at all, maybe even opposed it, can just be just blown up on their way to work or whatever. Just to think that their families will have to cope with the first ever terrorist attack in Britain.

Camilamazed
07-07-2005, 10:50 AM
But they didn't verify that the Madrid bombings were Islamic terrorists, did they? I always got the impression it was ETA. It's still a shame, though. To think that people who had nothing to do with the Iraq war at all, maybe even opposed it, can just be just blown up on their way to work or whatever. Just to think that their families will have to cope with the first ever terrorist attack in Britain.

I really wonder if it was ETA.
Oh well, who knows.....

Panzerfaust92
07-07-2005, 10:52 AM
I just realized. Now airport security everywhere in the world is going to be a bitch.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 10:53 AM
i'm from madrid.
the government told it was ETA cause they didn't want to say it was their fault for iraq war. there r videos filmed by the terrorist; 4 of them commited suicide when police was gonna arrest them (they made explode the flat they were in). the islamist terrorists did it.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 10:54 AM
I really wonder if it was ETA.
Oh well, who knows.....
Yeah, the problem is, they usually admit to it for the sake of some sort of decency. But they never did recognise that that bombing was one of theirs. Still, though, no one in the nations who sent troops to Iraq are safe. We can only hope that the people who did this will be apprehended. Maybe even security will be improved with results.

Camilamazed
07-07-2005, 10:54 AM
I just realized. Now airport security everywhere in the world is going to be a bitch.

You're right. It will also be more difficult to get visas.Just like in The USA.

Preecey
07-07-2005, 10:56 AM
i'm from madrid.
the government said it was ETA cause they didn't want to assume it was their fault for iraq war. there r videos filmed by the terrorist; 4 of them commited suicide when police was gonna arrest them (they made explode the flat they were in). the islamist terrorists did it.
I remember the day of the bombing. That was really bad. Still, it's bad no matter where it happens.

Camilamazed
07-07-2005, 10:58 AM
Those blasts are too similar. That's why I believe it's not by ETA.

Candesha_QOTN
07-07-2005, 10:59 AM
I was very nearly there, if it hadn't bin my great aunt's 89th birthday my ggrandma would have taken me into central london. God it's crap that we have people like these terrorists in the world, but we're british and we'll get through it! *waving a little Union Jack flag proudly*

clokey43
07-07-2005, 11:03 AM
Absolutly, what a patriotic comment. I almost feel like declaring the national anthem. :)

Preecey
07-07-2005, 11:05 AM
Yeah, it's a pity I hate our national anthem. I'm not really a royalist.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 11:07 AM
when the 11-M happened i didn't feel patriotic!! n most ppl felt like me cause next elections were won by other "partido politico" (can't spell).

hmm... i don't understand u.

Candesha_QOTN
07-07-2005, 11:07 AM
I hate people who gt money because of which family they were born into and not what they've done, the same as reconnition it's like Diana she married into the royals but she did something useful with it like helping the African people. that's y i hate the royals who don't do anything and Paris hilton and whats her name u no that other one they're only famous cos of thier parents

Preecey
07-07-2005, 11:09 AM
I resent the fact that they do nothing yet get paid for it. I'm not a revolutionary, mind you. I don't think they're evil, just very unnecessary.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 11:10 AM
I resent the fact that they do nothing yet get paid for it. I'm not a revolutionary, mind you. I don't think they're evil, just very unnecessary.

preecey for president!! i agree 100%

Preecey
07-07-2005, 11:11 AM
hmm... i don't understand u.
In times of great stress and need the public are supposed to band together for support. United against the enemy, as it were. Strangely enough I've never felt patriotic for anything this country has done after 1960, save the Falklands War and the Gulf War.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 11:11 AM
Just to think that their families will have to cope with the first ever terrorist attack in Britain.

Tis not the first, but it's the worst one since the 1988 Lockerbie bombing.


We can only hope that the people who did this will be apprehended. Maybe even security will be improved with results.

yeah, but the bombers cannot be stopped - all this extra security is pointless because anyone can get on a bus with a bomb under their shirt and then blow it up. The fact that these people don't care if they die is what makes them impossible to stop.

Good woman Candesha_QOTN!


EDIT: I apologize Candesha_QOTN. :o

ermdevi@tion
07-07-2005, 11:14 AM
Yeah, I feel sorry for those caught up in this. But hell, drop all the nationalistic bullshit. It's not like Blair can play the innocent one here either. 40 dead in London is nothing compared to the deaths caused by his and Bush's campaigns. This is the result of the UK's participation in illegal, unjust and inflamitory wars. Fix the root of the problem, don't cry over it.

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 11:15 AM
Yeah, it's a pity I hate our national anthem. I'm not really a royalist.

I rather like it actually - I was thinking about it whilst watching the news this morning. Oddly, I'm a rather patriotic person.


And on the whole royal family thing: I don't believe in them, but I can see that they're necessary because of tourism etc. And 65p per year isn’t too bad when you compare it to the amount of money that they bring into the country.

Candesha_QOTN
07-07-2005, 11:15 AM
Good man Candesha_QOTN!

WOMAN i resent being called a bloke so please change that or appologise x

Preecey
07-07-2005, 11:16 AM
Tis not the first, but it's the worst one since the 1988 Lockerbie bombing.
That is true, but this is the first to be directed our way since 2001. I think the world changed a hell of a lot that year. I still see the world as pre and post that September.




yeah, but the bombers cannot be stopped - all this extra security is pointless because anyone can get on a bus with a bomb under their shirt and then blow it up. The fact that these people don't care if they die is what makes them impossible to stop.

That's true, but at least they might tighten immigration now, and maybe these identity cards might help. Teaching English culture to immigrants would be a bad idea, either. Mind you, I think the indiginous population need that anyway.

Candesha_QOTN
07-07-2005, 11:17 AM
That's true, but at least they might tighten immigration now, and maybe these identity cards might help. Teaching English culture to immigrants would be a bad idea, either. Mind you, I think the indiginous population need that anyway.

U can't stop terrorism until u stop the terrorists

Preecey
07-07-2005, 11:18 AM
And on the whole royal family thing: I don't believe in them, but I can see that they're necessary because of tourism etc. And 65p per year isn’t too bad when you compare it to the amount of money that they bring into the country.
Ha ha, I hardly think we need a ruling class simply for tourism, but you have a point. I suppose it's the whole issue of conserving our heritage. People are reluctant to change anyway, so the whole royal issue isn't a major obsession of mine.

RXP
07-07-2005, 11:20 AM
I rather like it actually - I was thinking about it whilst watching the news this morning. Oddly, I'm a rather patriotic person.


And on the whole royal family thing: I don't believe in them, but I can see that they're necessary because of tourism etc. And 65p per year isn’t too bad when you compare it to the amount of money that they bring into the country.

They could be giving that 65p a year on working famlies tax credit.

How much money do they bring in anyway? They have enough of their own money without needing tax payers

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 11:23 AM
That's true, but at least they might tighten immigration now, and maybe these identity cards might help. Teaching English culture to immigrants would be a bad idea, either. Mind you, I think the indiginous population need that anyway.

*cough*TORIES*cough*

One of the main problems is that muslims blatantly refuse to 'integrate', they consider themselves better than other people (this is my opinion based on the fact that every muslim that I've ever met seems to do this, it may not be PC but if you don't agree that's your view) and seem to think they're right. Integration does have it’s problems too though. Personally, only one solution springs to my mind – it’s not PC, it’s not feasible and it would never happen.

I'm so fucking glad that I wasn't at school today - I have this fucking muslim in my class and she's always going on about how great her religion is, seems to consider herself 'better' than the rest of us and is so goddamn arrogant. God, I wouldn't have been able to handle the inevitable remarks that she'd make because of this...

Noodles is gay
07-07-2005, 11:25 AM
They could be giving that 65p a year on working famlies tax credit.

How much money do they bring in anyway? They have enough of their own money without needing tax payers

I'm not sure how much exactly they bring in, but if you think about the number of tourists who go to London each year and the reasons for their visit then you can tell it's rather a lot of money.

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-07-2005, 11:27 AM
*cough*TORIES*cough*

One of the main problems is that muslims blatantly refuse to 'integrate', they consider themselves better than other people (this is my opinion based on the fact that every muslim that I've ever met seems to do this, it may not be PC but if you don't agree that's your view) and seem to think they're right. Integration does have it’s problems too though. Personally, only one solution springs to my mind – it’s not PC, it’s not feasible and it would never happen.

I'm so fucking glad that I wasn't at school today - I have this fucking muslim in my class and she's always going on about how great her religion is, seems to consider herself 'better' than the rest of us and is so goddamn arrogant. God, I wouldn't have been able to handle the inevitable remarks that she'd make because of this...

*cough*TORIES*cough*

notoriousdoc
07-07-2005, 11:31 AM
We shall revolt when the time is right, the royals have plagued this land long enough

TORY JENNY, AARRGGHH!!

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 11:33 AM
One of the main problems is that muslims blatantly refuse to 'integrate', they consider themselves better than other people

i know 6 muslims and they don't think that way. if muslims really tought that they r better than us they wuldn't come to our countries as inmigrants.

(i'm not racist, i don't think inmigrants sux. i admire them cause leaving their family, country, life, it's so brave)

Preecey
07-07-2005, 11:34 AM
*cough*TORIES*cough*

One of the main problems is that muslims blatantly refuse to 'integrate', they consider themselves better than other people (this is my opinion based on the fact that every muslim that I've ever met seems to do this, it may not be PC but if you don't agree that's your view) and seem to think they're right. Integration does have it’s problems too though. Personally, only one solution springs to my mind – it’s not PC, it’s not feasible and it would never happen.
That's where the Tories campaign appeals to me.
However, I've known a few ok asians, but in the main they don't integrate. they seem to gang together. I have someone knifed outside my house, something pretty unheard of here only a few years ago. My uncle had a brick chucked at him by a gang of 'em, and yesterday on the way home my mate had a lump of concrete lobbed at him from across the road.

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 11:36 AM
they don't adapt cause they haven't been teached like us. if u have to live there i'm sure you will think what they do is not right cause u've been teached to think other way

Preecey
07-07-2005, 11:41 AM
they don't adapt cause they haven't been teached like us. if u have to live there i'm sure you will think what they do is not right cause u've been teached to think other way
Yeah! Indoctrination!

RXP
07-07-2005, 12:10 PM
Immigration and terrorism are two different things, NiG. I implure you to get an education in politics.

Linda
07-07-2005, 12:12 PM
This is just sad.
I just don't understand why these people can't be found and stopped.
This senseless killing just has to stop.
I think the world needs to have an open season on terrorists.

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-07-2005, 12:17 PM
This is just sad.
I just don't understand why these people can't be found and stopped.
This senseless killing just has to stop.
I think the world needs to have an open season on terrorists.

Problem with that is, the fact that they're terrorists has to be proven beyond doubt. If we go throwing every suspected terrorist in jail, there'll be a big issue with human rights.

Vera
07-07-2005, 12:25 PM
Immigration and terrorism are two different things, NiG. I implure you to get an education in politics.
Fucking word.

And NiG, is your solution, what, turning down muslim immigrants simply because they're muslim? Maybe 1 muslim in a million muslims is an extremist and one in ten million is a terrorist.

Just because those few muslim immigrants around you are pricks does not give you the right to judge every muslim immigrant in Britain.

I think the immigration laws in Europe are already very, very tight. I have no opinion whether they should be more loose or not but it's not like any country is letting ANYONE to come to their country.

All Tories I've EVER encountered have been nothing but arrogant, racist bastards. Maybe Britain should ban those instead.

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-07-2005, 12:34 PM
All Tories I've EVER encountered have been nothing but arrogant, racist bastards. Maybe Britain should ban those instead.

*Claps furiously*

Lars
07-07-2005, 12:45 PM
Well this topic has gone onto different tangents.

So far the only person I know who was close to anything was someone who was 3 busses behind the one that exploded.

English people/UK shouldn't complain about immigration, Germany has far more immigrants than you do. There are already 2 million Turkish residents in Germany.

There's no problem with Muslims, I spent 3 and half years living in Saudi Arabia, they were all perfectly nice to me during my stay there, more so than people over here in England.

They royals are an annoyance, their Royal train made my already slightly late train into Windsor even later cause it took up one of the two platforms at Windsor/Eton Riverside station.

rise_against
07-07-2005, 01:00 PM
This is just sad.
I just don't understand why these people can't be found and stopped.


They could have been...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/7/15518/88466

clokey43
07-07-2005, 01:06 PM
Ok I am a royalist. I believe in tradition. The national anthem is one of the most patriotic songs I know closly followed by Rule Britania! Makes you just want to get up and sort stuff out!

darko
07-07-2005, 01:11 PM
deep down we all knew this was coming....come on first 9/11....you can say this isnt about that all you want, but one way or another....hasnt there been threats towards Britian as well as America? this has all ready been linked to al queada....i've heard atleast two referance to them on the news today

foxy
07-07-2005, 01:14 PM
i work for the police in the uk now
and i know alot but i cant tell you it sucks but i can tell you theres more dead then they will ever say on tv

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-07-2005, 01:14 PM
Al-Quaeda admitted responsibility almost straight after the bombs went off.

foxy
07-07-2005, 01:16 PM
its a small imitation thing call al quaida europe or something

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 01:17 PM
theres more dead then they will ever say on tv

u don't have to work for the police to know that

Tux_Rocks
07-07-2005, 01:19 PM
I heard about this on the Internet at first and I'm really angry. It could have been prevented. :mad: Fucking Rag Head terrorists! Now the death toll has gone up to 30 or something and that makes me really sad. I partly blame Tony Blair for being George Bushes poodle and going to war with Iraq although it's the terrorists who are really to blame.

foxy
07-07-2005, 01:21 PM
part of the problem was about 200-300 met police were in gleneagles so there was a big hole in the defence as it were

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 01:24 PM
part of the problem was about 200-300 met police were in gleneagles so there was a big hole in the defence as it were

they woudln't have stop the terrorists anyway cause no one expected this

foxy
07-07-2005, 01:25 PM
Quote from police man this morning

"...we had no knowledge of this attack happening TODAY..."

Anya82
07-07-2005, 01:28 PM
youre making yourself out to be an idiot. are you? this thread is about the situation in london, not politics. therefore, shut your hole.
I have to desagree with you. All this kind of events are product of politics.


Olympics? Give me a fucking break.

Iraq. If you're with the USA, the terrorists are not going to like you.

G8, ditto. Has a lot to do with economy, industries. Kind of like how they attacked WTC. Trade. Capitalism. Powerful countries.
I agree. Everything is just about gaining control, economy, power. And maybe I'm wrong, but i think many of these events are well known by the different countries' government, but they care more about power than the "casualities" they'll have to suffer in their way to accomplish their "great country's success".

St. Jimmy
07-07-2005, 01:29 PM
Why do threads like this, boring, always have billion of pages.

darko
07-07-2005, 01:30 PM
part of the problem was about 200-300 met police were in gleneagles so there was a big hole in the defence as it were

hence the reason why they chose now! I had a feeling summit would happen when the G8 was on....

Green_Day
07-07-2005, 01:31 PM
Why do threads like this, boring, always have billion of pages.

why do threads like this *interesting, *mature... always have a billion of pages

Preecey
07-07-2005, 01:32 PM
I don't think there was a hole in the defences as such, but the timing sounds right. I think there were plenty of policemen still in London to cope, though, and no doubt there is in Gleneagles.

Vera
07-07-2005, 01:39 PM
I found this online, thought it would be good to lighten up this topic with humor:



I live in the UK, I work for the railways, our office got evacuated and what were we doing? Laughing at the comment one of our co-workers had siad which was "I didn't think the French would get this pissed".

St. Jimmy
07-07-2005, 01:40 PM
I found this online, thought it would be good to lighten up this topic with humor:

Hahahah! That was so funny i- no wait...it wasnt funny.

darko
07-07-2005, 01:41 PM
hehehe and that worker is always going to remember that comment. this is going to be another day where you remember where you where, what you where doing and how you heard

Preecey
07-07-2005, 01:42 PM
I found this online, thought it would be good to lighten up this topic with humor:
That's what me and my friend said when we heard. But we weren't making fun, or anything. It's still a grave matter.

Vera
07-07-2005, 01:47 PM
That's just it. No one's laughing at the victims. It's not "Ha! You died in a terrorist bombing!". It's "Ha! We're still hosting Olympics 2012!".

Humour helps and British are FAMOUS for their comedy and sense of humor. :]

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-07-2005, 01:52 PM
Oh, to have an episode of Fawlty Towers about winning the 2012 Olympics. <3

Vera
07-07-2005, 02:10 PM
That's hot.

clokey43
07-07-2005, 02:12 PM
Ok the comment is pretty funny, I mean you must admit we have all thought that at least once today. Ha ha ha they seemed pretty pissed yeterday. However, it isnt funny because people have died. As for the person who posted that, they work for the railways, a collegue said it, them off all people you would expect not to laugh about that. :confused: Why?

Vera
07-08-2005, 02:29 AM
Because they're dealing with it, not flipping their shit and being shitscared like the terrorists want them to be.

RXP
07-08-2005, 02:37 AM
THe terrorists are retarded anyway. It's never about invoking fear into people. All it ever does is bring people together. It's just about killing.

Vera
07-08-2005, 02:47 AM
Well, the press release did say something about Brits "burning with fear" in all parts of the country.

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:01 AM
latest i've heard is 37 dead and over 700 injured. My personal opinion is that its fucking al quieda (or however its spelt) and that whoever won the olympics would have had this happen. thats only my opinion and hasn't been proven anywhere. im pretty scared cos Leicester and the midlands have been linked to the atttacks. apparently they have been planned from round here and leicester may be a target. without wanting to be racist, it wouldn't be a surprise because there are so many immigrants and asians and muslims round here. :(

meaning_of_life
07-08-2005, 03:07 AM
whoever won the olympics would have had this happen.
thats retarded. it has nothing to do with the olympics.

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:10 AM
I found this online, thought it would be good to lighten up this topic with humor:

I no that this thing isn't funny because for all i know this guy could have lost an eye. but my brother spotted this and a bit of irony was that the news (don't know which 1) was showing pictures of a man with a eye patch on with the caption "eye witness account" underneath.

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:14 AM
thats retarded. it has nothing to do with the olympics.
why is it? the way i see it is that why do terorists do this? to get maximum publicity and cause problems. The worlds eyes were on London and London got maximum publicity for winning the olympics. many of the worlds journalists were still in london when a terrorist attack happens. terrorists get what they want in the form of showing Londons transport isn't as good as they claimed in the olympic bid, puts a question mark on safety in London, and they can get their retarded message over to the worlds media.

Vera
07-08-2005, 03:20 AM
*cough* G8 *cough*

meaning_of_life
07-08-2005, 03:21 AM
it was announced that london would be hosting the olympics only 24 hours before the attack, it would have taken longer than that to co-ordinate the attack. its just unfortunate luck that london was attacked right after the olympics were announced.

meaning_of_life
07-08-2005, 03:22 AM
*cough* G8 *cough*
thats what i forgot to mention.

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:23 AM
it was announced that london would be hosting the olympics only 24 hours before the attack, it would have taken longer than that to co-ordinate the attack. its just unfortunate luck that london was attacked right after the olympics were announced.

you could be right but paris and london were both favourites. is it so hard to believe that an attack could have been planned for both cities well before and as soon as the announcement was made it was set into motion?

Vera
07-08-2005, 03:26 AM
It still makes no sense. Olympics is a worldwide thing. It's not a Western thing, people from all over the globe compete. Why would the terrorists oppose to it?

meaning_of_life
07-08-2005, 03:28 AM
you could be right but paris and london were both favourites. is it so hard to believe that an attack could have been planned for both cities well before and as soon as the announcement was made it was set into motion?
i think youre forgetting why the bombings happened in the first place. the bombings had everything to do with the situation in iraq and afghanistan, i think it was only a matter of time before the UK would be attacked, but it coincided with the G8 meeting. australia will probably be attacked next, would you blame it on the sydney 2000 olympics?

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:30 AM
It still makes no sense. Olympics is a worldwide thing. It's not a Western thing, people from all over the globe compete. Why would the terrorists oppose to it?

i dont think they are against the actual olympics more just the fact it is being held in a western country. also an olympic ideal is that every country competing is equal and it promotes peace etc and the extreme terrorists don't believe in any of that do they?

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:33 AM
to be honest it has been coming since september 11th/. i think we have done well to prevent anything happening until now but it has just been a matter of time. It may be a mixture of things from iraq/afghanistan to G8 and also the olympics but i would have thought if it was mostly to do with the g8 wouldn't an attack have been more effective nearer to the summit rather than at the other end of the country? :confused:

edit: the only point about the olympics is that it is big news and it is both current and future news. 2000 olympics is in the past and so wouldn't be in the news and wouldn't get any publicity as a new announcement about the olympics would. my point was it was more to do with the publicity surrounding the olympics than the games themselves

Piedude
07-08-2005, 03:39 AM
It still makes no sense. Olympics is a worldwide thing. It's not a Western thing, people from all over the globe compete. Why would the terrorists oppose to it?

Its the attention. Look at the Munich Massacre, the Palestinian terrorists killed a load of the Israeli Olympic team, and got their problem back in the attention of the world for a while.
But yes, the Olympics isnt a western thing, considering how far east the 2008 Olympics are...

Vera
07-08-2005, 03:39 AM
London is a big city, loads of people. If you blow up something in Scotland, you'll kill an area filled with grass and a few cows or something. Not much media attention from that.

And again, it still has fuck all to do with Olympics. I seriously doubt the terrorists want the Olympics to be held in Baghdad or something. Sports is not a field they play in

Vera
07-08-2005, 03:39 AM
I still think the Olympics thing is a coincidence and nothing else.

Tizzalicious
07-08-2005, 03:40 AM
I still think the Olympics thing is a coincidence and nothing else.

me too, they can't plan a thing like this in a few days.

Green_Day
07-08-2005, 03:42 AM
me too, they can't plan a thing like this in a few days.

yep, me too
and the letter sent by the terrorist says it was for iraq! open your eyes! ppl don't wanna understand! the iraq war was (well, is) the biggest error ever!

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:43 AM
yep, me too
and the letter sent by the terrorist says it was for iraq! open your eyes! ppl don't wanna understand! the iraq war was (well, is) the biggest error ever!

i havent seen that letter.

Not Ozymandias
07-08-2005, 03:45 AM
oh holy fuck..

this makes me scared. what if they attack my dear beloved Amsterdam? WITH ME FUCKING IN IT?! :(
You mean with you fucking in the city at the time of attack? That ain't half bad, what better way is there to die??

Green_Day
07-08-2005, 03:46 AM
i havent seen that letter.

somebody posted it in the topic. u should read it all. ppl didn't believe me when i said it was for iraq at first.

Green_Day
07-08-2005, 03:48 AM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11859&page=14&pp=10

there's the letter

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:48 AM
somebody posted it in the topic. u should read it all. ppl didn't believe me when i said it was for iraq at first.

yeah i should but after reading the first 6 or 7 pages then realising that there were 22 in total i just thought balls to that and just posted! sorry!

defyuk
07-08-2005, 03:49 AM
thanks :)

Noodles is gay
07-08-2005, 06:45 AM
lim pretty scared cos Leicester and the midlands have been linked to the atttacks. apparently they have been planned from round here and leicester may be a target. without wanting to be racist, it wouldn't be a surprise because there are so many immigrants and asians and muslims round here. :(


HAHAHAHA!!!

Leicester is probably about the safest place that you can be in England! Why the hell would they bomb there? It's practically Pakistan! ?Tis the only place in England with a 20% white population; they wouldn't bomb there.

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-08-2005, 06:46 AM
^ Beh? What the hell was the reasoning behind that? They won't bomb a place because it has a big ethnic minority?

Noodles is gay
07-08-2005, 06:49 AM
yeah, they're not trying to kill muslims are they? so why would they bomb the place that has the highest percentage of muslims in the UK? They wouldn't.

JoY
07-08-2005, 06:50 AM
no, but what if all the Muslims came into bombing-action?

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-08-2005, 06:55 AM
yeah, they're not trying to kill muslims are they? so why would they bomb the place that has the highest percentage of muslims in the UK? They wouldn't.

Their motives weren't about racial hate, they were about hate of the Western world. And you're right, they wouldn't bomb Leicester, but only because if news broke out that Leicester had been bombed, about 4/5ths of the world would look at each other and go "Leicester? Where's that?" Everyone knows London, that's why it was bombed.

JoY
07-08-2005, 07:01 AM
does that make the shock any less? I mean, if it'd be on the news that ikjhldnf had been bombed in England, I'd still be all "wtf", "omg" & "oh noez".

I say Leicester has a pretty good chance of being bombed. be aware.

Green_Day
07-08-2005, 07:02 AM
no, but what if all the Muslims came into bombing-action?

shut up, that's stupid

edited: and racist

JoY
07-08-2005, 07:03 AM
shut up, you're stupid.

TheUnholyNightbringer
07-08-2005, 07:03 AM
does that make the shock any less? I mean, if it'd be on the news that ikjhldnf had been bombed in England, I'd still be all "wtf", "omg" & "oh noez".

I suppose the fact that a country had been bombed wouldn't be any less shocking, but London's so much more of a symbol of England than Leicester. You know, if the terrorists had bombed, say, New Hampshire in America, instead of New York - yes, it would have been shocking and terrible, but the fact that it's New York, the heart of the East Coast, makes it so more prominent.

Vera
07-08-2005, 07:04 AM
Their motives weren't about racial hate, they were about hate of the Western world. And you're right, they wouldn't bomb Leicester, but only because if news broke out that Leicester had been bombed, about 4/5ths of the world would look at each other and go "Leicester? Where's that?" Everyone knows London, that's why it was bombed.
WORD.

Thank you.

RXP
07-08-2005, 07:04 AM
Post by post NiG looks dumber and dumber. Absolutely amazing.