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NOAMR
09-10-2005, 04:56 AM
I'm not accord with the way threads are closed in the politics forum by The Godess( I usually only come there, so I don't know how it is going on in the other parts). It started with the Anarchy sticky, where she showed clearly how she disliked Anarchy and so here true earth of on-objectivity was showen. Then she closed a couple of new Anarchy threads, which there were allready a lot so that was okay. But then she closed 'Would you like to live in an Anarchistic World?', which allready lived for a while and where there was a discussion going on at the moment. So someone else started a thread about the misusing of the mod functions, but 'cuz it wasn't politics'(while mods are kinda the leaders/policemen off the forum, and so exally it is), the thread was also closed. And then(or maybe before it) I pm'ed The Godess for it, but she never replied and allready sayed something like 'I don't give a shit what a member with less then 20 post pm me', even tho there will be a serious reason if he does.

It is true there is seldom a good discussion going on, but that is for al threads, not only the Anarchy ones. But extreme racist threads or offensive osts or tolerated, while I think hurt a lot off persons. I've the feeling the mods just protect the popular, a-lot-posting members.

wheelchairman
09-10-2005, 05:02 AM
The mod will never understand this.

DexterWannabe
09-10-2005, 06:00 AM
way to long to read

Fat Boy Samsam
09-10-2005, 08:54 AM
Be careful NOAMR.

The Goddess has the power now. If she disagrees with your political beliefs, she will silence you.

Dictatorship rules!!

0r4ng3
09-10-2005, 08:59 AM
The mod will never understand this.
Shit, I don't understand this, and retard is my 3rd language.

the_GoDdEsS
09-10-2005, 09:06 AM
allready sayed something like 'I don't give a shit what a member with less then 20 post pm me', even tho there will be a serious reason if he does.


I did read your PM and am aware of the feedback. Also, disagreed with quoted statement because I don't remember saying that, ever. Serious reasons are always accepted. If you still insist on me saying that, please link me to the respectable post I apparently made.

The Anarchy sticky is temporary because of the recent flood of anarchy threads and we really don't need more than one or two. True, I personally don't agree with anarchy and I have a right to voice my opinion too. However the sticky is not about me disagreeing with anarchy. The sticky was about the pointlessness of some threads that were started which basically have nothing to say.

I prefered to close the 'Would you like to live in an Anarchistic World?' topic (being aware of the discussion evolving at the end) because the first few pages of that thread were just horrible nonsense and no discussion at all. I can't imagine how anyone new reading that would wade through so much nonsense and actually find a discussion at the end. Also there already was another thread where you could continue the discussion. Or maybe I should have merged the threads which seems like an option.

And maybe I'm the only one then who seems to see and recognise the joke in the apparently 'offensive' posts. I don't tolerate spam, pornographic content or extreme offensiveness. But I fully support controversy and humour.

Sin Studly
09-10-2005, 09:15 AM
I'm not accord with the way threads are closed in the politics forum by The Godess( I usually only come there, so I don't know how it is going on in the other parts). It started with the Anarchy sticky, where she showed clearly how she disliked Anarchy and so here true earth of on-objectivity was showen. Then she closed a couple of new Anarchy threads, which there were allready a lot so that was okay. But then she closed 'Would you like to live in an Anarchistic World?', which allready lived for a while and where there was a discussion going on at the moment. So someone else started a thread about the misusing of the mod functions, but 'cuz it wasn't politics'(while mods are kinda the leaders/policemen off the forum, and so exally it is), the thread was also closed. And then(or maybe before it) I pm'ed The Godess for it, but she never replied and allready sayed something like 'I don't give a shit what a member with less then 20 post pm me', even tho there will be a serious reason if he does.

It is true there is seldom a good discussion going on, but that is for al threads, not only the Anarchy ones. But extreme racist threads or offensive osts or tolerated, while I think hurt a lot off persons. I've the feeling the mods just protect the popular, a-lot-posting members.

* in accord, Goddess, go, her, no idea, non, shown, already, lot of, already, time, misuse, 'cause, actually, Goddess, already, said, PMs, though, all, extremely, posts, are, which, of, people, frequently

Keep crying, you wet vagina. But at least learn the fundamentals of English grammar first.

Endymion
09-10-2005, 09:26 AM
i don't see where people get off using "but other people post racist stuff!" as a defense of their posting pure spam.

Mota Boy
09-10-2005, 09:28 AM
Personally, I love the argument that Sim is simultaneously closing too many threads and not closing enough of them.

Sin Studly
09-10-2005, 09:35 AM
Don't expect him to make any intelligent points, he's a fuckin anarchist for Christs sake. Anarchists aren't even human.

JohnnyNemesis
09-10-2005, 10:01 AM
i do see where people get off using "but other people post racist stuff!" as a defense of their posting pure spam.

It's annoying. Spam is just pointless, while racism, as infuriating as it is, at least leads to actual discussion.

the_GoDdEsS
09-10-2005, 10:13 AM
That's it. Controversy is thought-provoking. And when you actually manage to incite people, harsh discussions can be pretty interesting.

HeadAroundU
09-10-2005, 10:25 AM
I agree with The goddess on 50% and with NOAMR on 50% too.
Thats not too much :)

Sin Studly
09-10-2005, 12:25 PM
I agree with The goddess on 50% and with NOAMR on 50% too.
Thats not too much :)

Shut up, mutant-face.

Not Ozymandias
09-10-2005, 01:00 PM
Delete this thread to show this 'tard who's boss.

NOAMR
09-11-2005, 03:27 AM
Not cuz I was warned, that it is justified. And I can still understand the closing of the Anarchist World thread(the discussion wasn't that good), but the closing of 'Funny'(the thread who discussed the decision) was simply mod-misuge.

And I don't get what is funny about always calling someone 'stupid', 'retard'..., what happens a lot here. Okay, I don't think you schould close the racist threads, there is a freedom of speech, even tho I don't disagree with them. But it's more fair you close them then the one who discuss you're function. Most off the time, when you register on a forum, you also have to agree with that you won't use racist, offensive...language(dunno if that was here also).

NOAMR
09-11-2005, 03:35 AM
Ow, and I've searchedfor the <20 post, sry Godess, it was sayed, but by Hornypope:

What else is there? Who's gonna draw the line between acceptable posting and non-acceptable but myself and Sim? I have cretins with under 20 posts and registering date of a week old messaging me and complaining about posts of offensive nature. Should I trust their "subjectivity"? No thanks, I think I know what's fine for this board.

the_GoDdEsS
09-11-2005, 03:39 AM
Not cuz I was warned, that it is justified. And I can still understand the closing of the Anarchist World thread(the discussion wasn't that good), but the closing of 'Funny'(the thread who discussed the decision) was simply mod-misuge.


It was whining and not really discussing the decision. I closed it because it was off topic and all other mods even suggested it gets closed.

the_GoDdEsS
09-11-2005, 03:45 AM
Ow, and I've searchedfor the <20 post, sry Godess, it was sayed, but by Hornypope:

What else is there? Who's gonna draw the line between acceptable posting and non-acceptable but myself and Sim? I have cretins with under 20 posts and registering date of a week old messaging me and complaining about posts of offensive nature. Should I trust their "subjectivity"? No thanks, I think I know what's fine for this board.

I think there's a slight misunderstanding going on here. No one here looks down on people with less than 20 posts. You just assume that they don't know this board though. Because face it or not, this board does have a certain mentality and it's completely different than any other. And you have to understand the mentality and still try to stay objective about it. I'm fairly certain HornyPope only made that generalisation because he's an experienced poster and because some members with a few posts are imposters or flooders.

You know, the problem is that anything us mods do and it is for the board's good there will always be at least a few people who will not be happy with our decisions and they'll always try to twist things against us. You simply cannot please everybody.

HornyPope
09-11-2005, 05:53 AM
I'm not gonna bother addressing the complaints, but i'll just quote the conversation from the "funny" thread whence you drew my quotation to make sure the context is respected.


HP : For the record, I don't close threads. I'm fine with whatever discussions the kids have to the point of it carrying onto being spam--which it hasn't yet; and when it does, ill decide where to draw the line. Ditto for "offensive" material.

T-6005: Subjectivity is always the problem with the elected, innit?

HP: What else is there? Who's gonna draw the line between acceptable posting and non-acceptable but myself and Sim? I have cretins with under 20 posts and registering date of a week old messaging me and complaining about posts of offensive nature. Should I trust their "subjectivity"? No thanks, I think I know what's fine for this board.

NOAMR
09-11-2005, 10:49 AM
It was whining and not really discussing the decision. I closed it because it was off topic and all other mods even suggested it gets closed.

It was one of the better discussions on the forum. Only the last posts(the one of Sin Studly and perhaps the one before) didn't have so much value. I don't see how it was off-topic. And bring the other mods into it is just trying to decrease your part off it. Try to think for yourself and be responsible for your actions. The closing of that thread was just showing you don't like critism.

the_GoDdEsS
09-11-2005, 10:57 AM
It was one of the better discussions on the forum. Only the last posts(the one of Sin Studly and perhaps the one before) didn't have so much value. I don't see how it was off-topic. And bring the other mods into it is just trying to decrease your part off it. Try to think for yourself and be responsible for your actions. The closing of that thread was just showing you don't like critism.

Christ, I would have closed it anyway or sent it over here. It was not about Politics. If people wanna discuss mods, discuss it here like you just did. And I was only glad other mods agreed on closing it as well so it wasn't subjective.

HeadAroundU
09-11-2005, 03:26 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/HeadAroundU/threadclosed.gif

Sin Studly
09-12-2005, 02:43 AM
Shut up, mutant-face.

JoY
09-12-2005, 05:10 AM
yay for tha GODDESSSSSSSS!

<3

(no matter what you say, she'll always be right. just because. just because she's a whole lot smarter than you)

NOAMR
09-14-2005, 05:30 AM
Christ, I would have closed it anyway or sent it over here. It was not about Politics. If people wanna discuss mods, discuss it here like you just did. And I was only glad other mods agreed on closing it as well so it wasn't subjective.

Well, you had better send it to here. It's logical someone post it on the politics forum, just cuz it happened there and that is the place for discussions. If you don't know this forum so much(this part isn't used so much I think), you wouldn't have thinked to post it here.
Mods protect each other, it was a general protest about the mods behaviour on politics, so probably they also feeled it as an offence. I don't think these people are the best for an objective view.

Sin Studly
09-14-2005, 07:14 AM
They're not "protecting each other", they just all think you're fucking spurious, like everybody else on the forum except your stupid anarchist fuckbuddies. You wanna talk about biased little cliques, you can start with you and your retard anarchist friends.

JoY
09-14-2005, 08:00 AM
I agree with Justin. & lookie, he isn't even a moderator. :o

we support each other's acts, because we would've done the same if we would've moderated the same forum & are on the same level & have the same intentions with this board; keeping it civilised.

Sin Studly
09-15-2005, 05:45 PM
^ She only agrees with me cause I'm a total hottie and she's all wet for me. Don't listen to her lies.

ruroken
09-16-2005, 04:41 PM
It's annoying. Spam is just pointless, while racism, as infuriating as it is, at least leads to actual discussion.
Yeah, and funny stuff.

NOAMR
09-17-2005, 05:13 AM
Sin Studly: there isn't really an anarchist 'clique' and my 'anarchist friends' on this forum, I barely know who exactly are anarchists upon here and I don't really know them, I don't pm them or have them on msn or something. I think the mods do(and they can off course). I just like to discuss thinks, and if that discussion is about anarchism, it's normal I disagree less often with the anarchists.


I agree with Justin. & lookie, he isn't even a moderator. :o

we support each other's acts, because we would've done the same if we would've moderated the same forum & are on the same level & have the same intentions with this board; keeping it civilised.

So what do you mean with 'keeping it civilised'. I don't like the term really, cuz it's like the civilised is 'better' then 'the wild one'. You define off course civilised on your own way, which make you think you are better then people who act other than you. If I hear the term, I think about hypocrisie,a colonist who caused a lot off black deads saying hautain how he thinks the lower classes are uncivilised and steal etc(cuz they don't have food^).
You prolly didnt saw it that way, but you mods doesn't do anything about all the 'retard idiot' calls, but the posts you dislike, you close( and thaty isn't even about whether it was just to do so, if you look it alone, maybe it was, but if you compare it to all the other posts, it wasn't).

the_GoDdEsS
09-17-2005, 05:27 AM
You prolly didnt saw it that way, but you mods doesn't do anything about all the 'retard idiot' calls, but the posts you dislike, you close

Wrong. If we closed all posts we dislike, we'd close many many more. But everyone's trying to remain as objective as possible and judging the threads according to if they already exist, if they're spam, if they're flooding, if they're pointless nonsense or if they're pornographic. I've already told you we can't make everyone happy. That's impossible. We're just doing what we think is right and for the good of the board.

NOAMR
09-17-2005, 05:47 AM
Wrong. If we closed all posts we dislike, we'd close many many more. But everyone's trying to remain as objective as possible and judging the threads according to if they already exist, if they're spam, if they're flooding, if they're pointless nonsense or if they're pornographic. I've already told you we can't make everyone happy. That's impossible. We're just doing what we think is right and for the good of the board.

I didn't say 'you close all the posts you dislike', but off all the pointless/spam posts upon here, you only close the ones you dislike(or well, not the ones from people you like). Imagine: they are 2 posts:
a) Anarky 4 life!!!!!! Gov sucks!!!!!
b)Muslims r all criminals, kill the retard mothefuckies!!!!!

There is much chance you only close the first one, while it is all spam, with not really a toughteble opinion, and with the second, people could get offended. Or well, which would you close(and none, one or all)?

Sin Studly
09-17-2005, 06:17 AM
You're a retard, NOAMR, stop posting. Or learn English. Or both.

the_GoDdEsS
09-17-2005, 07:02 AM
I didn't say 'you close all the posts you dislike', but off all the pointless/spam posts upon here, you only close the ones you dislike(or well, not the ones from people you like). Imagine: they are 2 posts:
a) Anarky 4 life!!!!!! Gov sucks!!!!!
b)Muslims r all criminals, kill the retard mothefuckies!!!!!

There is much chance you only close the first one, while it is all spam, with not really a toughteble opinion, and with the second, people could get offended. Or well, which would you close(and none, one or all)?

If they're thread titles, it depends on the content. If they're the content of a thread, I'd close both if neither of them made a point or was a forum joke.

NOAMR
09-19-2005, 08:57 AM
NOAMR, this paragraph makes perfect sense to me. She explained herself nicely, and even patiently. Yet you find something to disagree with in every post. You continue to argue with people over nothing, untill any remains of a point or a reason to be arguing turns to repetative squwabble. Have you ever let something go, or god forbid even admitted that you were wrong? Hell, even if the bbs moderators re-opened every anarchy related 'discussion' in politics, you'd still find something to bitch about. You're no better than any other idiot on this board. The only difference is that whenever any thoughts pop into your head, you have endless patience to type about them.

Try an anarchy message board, you'll be much more popular.

Well, she just understood my message wrong, so it's kinda normal I explained what I meant. I still think she isn't really objective, not cuz off the closing off threads, but because she let worse threads open. Well, I'm against closing threads(if it isn't interesting, just don't watch), so well, it isn't a big deal.

And don't worry, I'm allready on an anarchy board, and well, it's true they don't judge or always call names etc like here.

JoY
09-19-2005, 09:37 AM
So what do you mean with 'keeping it civilised'. I don't like the term really, cuz it's like the civilised is 'better' then 'the wild one'. You define off course civilised on your own way, which make you think you are better then people who act other than you. If I hear the term, I think about hypocrisie,a colonist who caused a lot off black deads saying hautain how he thinks the lower classes are uncivilised and steal etc(cuz they don't have food^).
You prolly didnt saw it that way, but you mods doesn't do anything about all the 'retard idiot' calls, but the posts you dislike, you close( and thaty isn't even about whether it was just to do so, if you look it alone, maybe it was, but if you compare it to all the other posts, it wasn't).
dude, I'm a Jewish black woman from the street.

don't start your anarchist shit to me, I've only closed one topic & that's the only thing I've ever done as a moderator. because yeah, the forum 'Your Band' is quite peaceful.

you know what 'being civil to each other' is. it's real goddam simple. you reading between every line a moderator posts scares no one. I'm not a hypocrite for wanting people to act civilised to each other on this board. jaysus.

the reason we let some 'rude' posts be, is because they're hardly offensive, shouldn't be taken seriously, or make total sense. we never delete "retard idiot"-shit, because it's just dumb name-calling, that shouldn't offend anyone. & if it does manage to offend anyone, it was said with reason.

JoY
09-19-2005, 09:38 AM
Wrong. If we closed all posts we dislike, we'd close many many more. But everyone's trying to remain as objective as possible and judging the threads according to if they already exist, if they're spam, if they're flooding, if they're pointless nonsense or if they're pornographic. I've already told you we can't make everyone happy. That's impossible. We're just doing what we think is right and for the good of the board.
correct. & I think I can speak for all modz here.

JoY
09-19-2005, 09:40 AM
I didn't say 'you close all the posts you dislike', but off all the pointless/spam posts upon here, you only close the ones you dislike(or well, not the ones from people you like). Imagine: they are 2 posts:
a) Anarky 4 life!!!!!! Gov sucks!!!!!
b)Muslims r all criminals, kill the retard mothefuckies!!!!!

There is much chance you only close the first one, while it is all spam, with not really a toughteble opinion, and with the second, people could get offended. Or well, which would you close(and none, one or all)?
personally.. I'd close both. both are based on idiocy.

Edit; I agree with Sim aka Goddess.

the_GoDdEsS
09-19-2005, 09:42 AM
Well, she just understood my message wrong, so it's kinda normal I explained what I meant. I still think she isn't really objective, not cuz off the closing off threads, but because she let worse threads open. Well, I'm against closing threads(if it isn't interesting, just don't watch), so well, it isn't a big deal.


It was the other way round. Will you ever, seriously EVER stop? I think I've said enough and made enough fair points. Stop playing the crying victim of an internet society with rules here.

JoY
09-19-2005, 09:44 AM
Well, she just understood my message wrong, so it's kinda normal I explained what I meant. I still think she isn't really objective, not cuz off the closing off threads, but because she let worse threads open. Well, I'm against closing threads(if it isn't interesting, just don't watch), so well, it isn't a big deal.

And don't worry, I'm allready on an anarchy board, and well, it's true they don't judge or always call names etc like here.
she understood wrong that you think she isn't being objective?? now WHO isn't being objective? let me tell you she understood you perfectly well, but not only YOU have the right to make your point & vent your opinion, so does she. & while making her point, she proved your opinion to be based on nothing. stop getting so pissy over it.

Sin Studly
09-20-2005, 12:32 AM
Anarchist ; Liek, stop making laws and shit and let people do wat they want.
Fascist ; No.
Anarchist ; That's meeean! UR A NAZI
Fascist; *arrests/censors/maims/hangs anarchist*

^ This is why anarchy will never work. Viva Fascism!

JohnnyNemesis
09-20-2005, 08:29 AM
Some ppl here seem to have a truly mighty high opinion of themselves

...and you don't?

0r4ng3
09-20-2005, 01:22 PM
...says the subhuman who lives in a shithole! ^^^
...says the subhuman who lives in a library.

EROS
09-20-2005, 01:51 PM
...says the subhuman who lives in a library.
i didn't know that a person could live in a library, i tho libraries where for people who wanted to find book, but maybe in some pathetic countries they call the hosteles libraries and the libraries restrooms. yeah!?

'that' can explain why orange thinks shitholes are better than libraries! ? :rolleyes:

0r4ng3
09-20-2005, 02:01 PM
i didn't know that a person could live in a library, i tho libraries where for people who wanted to find book, but maybe in some pathetic countries they call the hosteles libraries and the libraries restrooms. yeah!?They obviously have computers at libraries, from what I've heard.

'that' can explain why orange thinks shitholes are better than libraries! ? :rolleyes:I never said that.

BTW, my head hurts from deciphering your post. Make some damn sense!

NOAMR
09-21-2005, 07:03 AM
she understood wrong that you think she isn't being objective?? now WHO isn't being objective? let me tell you she understood you perfectly well, but not only YOU have the right to make your point & vent your opinion, so does she. & while making her point, she proved your opinion to be based on nothing. stop getting so pissy over it.

No, she tought(or interpretended it that way, I wasn't being clear), I meant she close ALL posts she dislike, while I meant she ONLY close the posts she dislike. She's unobjective in both cases, so that isn't the point. It seems to me it's a clear example of a misunderstadion. But well, their hasn't been unjust closings for a while, and we've allready discussed the others(not that we agree, but I think we both understand each other points), so guess this discussion is over until something new happen(which doesn't mean you schould close this topic!When this situation happens again, we don't have to open another topic if this stays open).

Sin Studly
09-21-2005, 07:32 AM
Stop having opinions, idiot, you don't deserve them.

JohnnyNemesis
09-21-2005, 11:04 AM
Maria whining about favoritism is one of the most hypocritical things I've read here in ages. Seriously.

JohnnyNemesis
09-21-2005, 11:11 AM
That's where you're being a hypocrite. Indulge me; what reason would I ever have to be biased against you? You've never done anything wrong to me, so why would I have any ill will here? I suppose anyone who disagrees with you is "biased", right?

Truth is, notdoc could shit on his screen and you'll call it the best post of the century. Yet you whine about favoritism. It's just ridiculous.

JohnnyNemesis
09-21-2005, 11:19 AM
but when sin or others spam horrible gruesome SPEECH & PICS nobody lambasts THEM.

That's just not true. Have you ever noticed that Sin Studly is THE MOST HATED MEMBER OF THESE FORUMS? Every time he does any of that, tons of people bitch and moan about it, and go off on him. Heck, Endymion and TheUnholyNightbringer often delete or alter his posts when he steps out of line.


It is clear that YOU are the one that is biased against him, and making it seem as if it's the other way around just because few people like you.

Sin Studly
09-21-2005, 10:38 PM
Wha? I thought everybody liked me???

*starts crying*

T-6005
09-21-2005, 10:42 PM
Wha? I thought everybody liked me???

*starts crying*

Deal with it, asswipe.

Sin Studly
09-22-2005, 09:29 PM
Because notdoc and Jenny are shining paragons of intellect.

T-6005
09-23-2005, 01:06 AM
Paragons in the way that a mound of shit is like a paragon.

JoY
09-23-2005, 05:04 AM
Maria is okay. overal she has good intentions, which I always appreciate. they sometimes come out bad, though.

& NO ONE is objective. not the moderators, OR any of the members on this board. that's the whole challenge; to be as objective as possible. the examples given about moderators on here being overly subjective, biased, or judgemental are invalid, though.

Sin Studly
09-23-2005, 06:45 AM
I'm the epitome of objectivity. That's why I hate so many fucking people. Because 95%+ of people here are factually useless.