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acgc2002
11-23-2004, 08:19 AM
do you believe in something or are you atheist?

Well... I have ups and downs...
I was raised under catholic religion, studied in a catholic school... but sometimes I donīt believe in God...
I have already tried to find myself by reading about other religions, but no one seems to fit...
So, at the moment I am atheist...

How about you?

Bazza
11-23-2004, 08:20 AM
definately atheist,

im studying science based subjects, so i know that it can't be reaL

lousyskater
11-23-2004, 08:20 AM
been an atheist since the age of 8.
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Evil babboon
11-23-2004, 08:24 AM
i am Agnostic

Lullaby
11-23-2004, 08:24 AM
agnostic...

acgc2002
11-23-2004, 08:29 AM
what means agnostic?

lousyskater
11-23-2004, 08:31 AM
what means agnostic?
One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

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Bazza
11-23-2004, 08:33 AM
i'm all for utilitarianism, but that's not religious, jus being nice

Eccentric Sara
11-23-2004, 08:52 AM
definately atheist,

im studying science based subjects, so i know that it can't be reaLYeah,same here! Well,I did Biology and Chemistry 'A' Levels and a science degree. I'm not studying science at present though.

Bazza
11-23-2004, 08:53 AM
gonna be doing a degree in chemistry, with forensic analysis.

when u do science subjects u realise bout evolution and other shit which disproves the 6day theory christians use

Eccentric Sara
11-23-2004, 09:18 AM
gonna be doing a degree in chemistry, with forensic analysis.

when u do science subjects u realise bout evolution and other shit which disproves the 6day theory christians useYeah,exactly.:) I think all religions are a load of crap,but have nothing against religious ppl particularly. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs or lack of them.
Chemistry?!!!! *shudders* :eek: Well,good luck with it!!! I hated 'A' Level Chemistry and found it very hard. I only got a D,but I was proud of it,seeing as I wasn't expecting to pass at all. It is a very useful subject if you succeed at it though.:)

wheelchairman
11-23-2004, 09:45 AM
I am an atheist.

original_prankster
11-23-2004, 10:33 AM
I am a christian.

wheelchairman
11-23-2004, 10:44 AM
Your signature is kind of ironic with regard to that post.

Vera
11-23-2004, 10:56 AM
I'm agnostic, I guess.

Inshane
11-23-2004, 11:20 AM
I don't believe in God, and I wouldn't know what happends after you die.
Im really interrested in this though.
I like to believe there is something, not heaven or hell, more of an energyfield maybe. I sometimes really feel that when people die, they can still keep 'contact' with people on earth. Not words,more feelings. This probably sounds stupid but I sometimes feel that somebody that passed away is around me. or near me. I couldn't really describe it. It feels kind of safe in a way.

the_GoDdEsS
11-23-2004, 01:41 PM
Tough one on me. Undecided. And I prefer not to analyze. I believe in some powers. But I don't know if it's God or something else. I believe in certain drives in people. Survival. No idea. I tried to be a Catholic for a few years. Now I just keep my distance to any organized religion. There are certain spiritual things I believe in but I'm sceptical and sometimes materialistic.

QUEEF
11-23-2004, 01:46 PM
I don't believe in God, and I wouldn't know what happends after you die.
Im really interrested in this though.
I like to believe there is something, not heaven or hell, more of an energyfield maybe. I sometimes really feel that when people die, they can still keep 'contact' with people on earth. Not words,more feelings. This probably sounds stupid but I sometimes feel that somebody that passed away is around me. or near me. I couldn't really describe it. It feels kind of safe in a way.
I feel as you do. Many times I have felt a spirit near me. I am atheist though. :D

QUEEF
11-23-2004, 01:48 PM
People who say they are atheist in this board, like me, do know that athiests are people who not only think there is no god, but also try to prove that there is no god. Whereas agnostic people just don't elieve god exists. THERE IS NO GOD< SORRY BELEIVERS!

Phate
11-23-2004, 01:58 PM
I'm a LaVey Satanist.
But since that is more a way of life, than a religion, I guess I'm an Atheist.

Unnatural Disaster
11-23-2004, 01:58 PM
Agnostic..........

wheelchairman
11-23-2004, 02:05 PM
Lavey cracks me the fuck up.

original_prankster
11-23-2004, 03:01 PM
I'm also wiccan, I might add.

shatskater
11-23-2004, 07:00 PM
athiest for sure, i studied and i know there is no god.

SicN Twisted
11-23-2004, 08:12 PM
I'm an agnostic, because I'm against all sorts of dogmatism, from Marxism to Christianity to nationalism to atheism.

Evil babboon
11-25-2004, 08:02 AM
wow agnostics are the new atheists,

i'm a scientist, but like all real scientists i believe that for something to exist there must be proof, for me there is not enough proof either way to swing any for of religious belief,

before you all start with darwinism (which i have studied extensivly for my field) yes darwinism disproves the "made in seven days" story, but
the bible is full of many stories that are exagurated to provide a moral, i belive its posible that the seven days was such an exaguration,

JoY
11-25-2004, 08:24 AM
definately atheist,

im studying science based subjects, so i know that it can't be reaL
you're talking out of your ass. I've seen many, MANY people, who do scientific research & doctors, who are religious. they don't need to combine their belief with the research they do & the science they study. to them God simply exists.

I study medicine (unrelated, but fuck it) & was an atheist for years.
I went to a Protestant school, when I was young, which I disliked to hell & back (not very stimulating to devellop any form of belief). then went to a specialised grammar school, where they don't give a shit about religion. I learned the world can be cruel & strongly believed in nothing, causing misery.

the fact that after everything I landed on both feet & simply the observation of things, that in no way can be rationally explained, made me wonder. I now do believe, there's someone up there. call it God, call it Cheese, I couldn't care less, really. it can't help that you make mistakes & what you yourself do wrong in life, but it's there to luminate your spirit in dark times, to whisper comforting words in your ear & show light on the most complicated cases.

believing is easy, I've discovered. I know I might be possibly fooling myself & realise my smile towards the sky probably stays unnoticed, but there's something out there to cause love & beauty. whatever it is.. it's wonderful. I've develloped a strong respect for the book with stories, that tricks people in doing extremely good things for the world. my ultimate example is my grandfather, who was a minister. I never plan to do so much good in life in that way. I'll just study to cure people.

I also believe my grandparents, who have passed away, are watching me from wherever. I believe it, because I like the idea of it & it's comforting. I might be goddam foolish, but at least I'm honest.

Inshane
11-25-2004, 08:49 AM
I wish I could believe in God. It probably can really help and give you strength (what people told me.) I just wish I had that.

But I can't stop thinking. Why the fuck would that bastard called God be as stupid as hell to let 15 year old people die? Whats the meaning of that?
and dont replay something like : because he needs angels. thats just bull.
I just cant believe.

*sorry for my words, i just get real angry when i think about this stuff.

lousyskater
11-25-2004, 08:57 AM
i've always figured that if a god wants us to worship him/her/whatever then why the hell doesn't the god just come down here and show it's self so that no one would deny it's existance in the first place? also, what was the motivation for creating the universe? another question: what religion is right?
i figure that there's way to many religions in the world for one to be right.
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Evil babboon
11-25-2004, 08:59 AM
most religion follow the same basic belief system, its like a huge game of chinese whispers, thats why the middleeast is the centre of most religions

Inshane
11-25-2004, 09:01 AM
I think everybody needs to find his own 'religion'.

For me, music is my 'religion' . And thats something were I can truelly depend on. Not just hope for. Its really there. And thats my comfort.

TheHulaChick
11-25-2004, 09:09 AM
I dunno what I believe at the moment. I was brought up as a christian and my step dad was a pastor but I always disliked church, church music, bible stories etc. I was always encouraged to pray for things but if I ever did then the worst possible outcome often followed which was quite off putting. And people (like my step dad) who only pray for stuff instead of actually doing stuff really annoy me. But I've heard interesting stories of scientists who set out to prove god didn't exist but found strong evidence that proved events in the bible actually happened and then they turned christian. So I'm totally confused and thinking about what happens after death makes me feel overwhelmed so I don't really think about religion too much. I believe that for some people it's important to believe in something so religion is good for that whether it's real or not. And I believe everything happens for a reason (hang on... is that from star wars? :D ) and I'll continue to keep an open mind on religion.

lousyskater
11-25-2004, 09:16 AM
i really don't care what happens to me when i die. i don't see what the big deal is.
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wheelchairman
11-25-2004, 09:32 AM
most religion follow the same basic belief system, its like a huge game of chinese whispers, thats why the middleeast is the centre of most religions
This is an example of a person who has absolutely no idea of what she/he is talking about. But believes they do based on the random evidence they may have heard from someone or a tv show, but certainly not any concrete research.

JoY
11-25-2004, 10:16 AM
I wish I could believe in God. It probably can really help and give you strength (what people told me.) I just wish I had that.

But I can't stop thinking. Why the fuck would that bastard called God be as stupid as hell to let 15 year old people die? Whats the meaning of that?
and dont replay something like : because he needs angels. thats just bull.
I just cant believe.

*sorry for my words, i just get real angry when i think about this stuff.
what's the point of people losing people, what's the use of people getting raped, what's the use of abuse, etc etc etc. what's the point of human suffering, when there's supposed to be a god to help all that? sure I've wondered a lot about such stuff too. but after having lost an eleven year old friend to suicide, having gone through all kinds of shit, I do believe, that honestly I haven't been taught a goddam thing. I haven't wisened up in any way by any of the nasty experiences I've had. they've hurt me, litterally scarred me, tore me apart, you name it. I do know, that I can deal with things a LOT better now, that I now know, that whatever happens, things can always get worse, that I've gained optimism & that I've became much better at facing the world. if I could go back in time & change anything about my past, I'd most likely wouldn't. some things will never stop hurting, but they keep you realistic & that kind of pain actually keeps my head above the water.

who came up with the excuse "people die, cuz God needs angels"??
man, that's fooking hilarious. XD

Evil babboon
11-25-2004, 10:50 AM
WCM,
i have reserched alot into it to be honest, i had to in first year uni, i suguest you get you facts straight before jumping to conclusions,

wheelchairman
11-25-2004, 10:55 AM
Oh so you've told me now that you've done your research. Well that sure as hell proves a lot to me. I must believe you know, because you're an edumacated person who always knows more than me.

You are wrong. There are clear differences between religions.

Christianity preaches turning the other cheek, while Islam preaches fighting back when you are wronged.

Fundaments of both religions, yet clearly opposites.

Maybe, it's you who should do your research Mr. Uni?

wliethof
11-25-2004, 11:04 AM
agnostic.

reading the da vinci code at the moment. quite interesting

Inshane
11-25-2004, 11:09 AM
to Joy : A lot of people told me that actually. 'She was an Angel.' or 'God needed her''. I hate it when people say that. Especially the ones who believe in God. They say things like that to make it right in a way. when it is far from right.Those people have NO idea what they are talking about, they just want so say something. And it was probably just because they wanted to be nice, well say something nice, not stupid and ignorant. But on the other hand, who am I to say they have a pathetic way of thinking.

Anya82
11-25-2004, 11:26 AM
I'm Catholic.

but i respect people's beliefs because they deserve my respect just because they're human beings.. so.. if you don't believe in what I do.. it's up to you...
I'm not that kind of person that wants to force everybody to think the same way I do... and I won't change my mind just because some others believe (or don't believe) in other things...

Respect.. as simple as that... respect.
don't ya think?

Evil babboon
11-25-2004, 11:27 AM
Actually christianity has conflicting veiw all thru the bible, for example the old testiment is very "an eye for an eye"
new testiment is "turn the other check"

Wanna argue more or are you done as well as dumb?

nitropenguin!
11-25-2004, 11:30 AM
I'm an Agnostic... and I will always be one until I get the real story. No one knows for sure of corse. What really is the Bible? Just stories or facts people saw with their own eyes? Truthfully, no matter what we believe, it won't change anything.

Vera
11-25-2004, 11:31 AM
No shit, Sherlock.

Haven't you heard about that shit that Jesus died for our sins so that ours could be forgiven and THAT'S WHY God of Old Testament is different from the God of New Testament.

Evil babboon
11-25-2004, 11:37 AM
Yea and like evolution, thats a fork in the evolution of religions where they branch, for example jews believe the same fundementals or christianity apart from they refuse to believe that jesus was the son of god,
the diffence between chatholosism and C of E is that C of E rejected the pope as the messenger of god......most religions started in the same area and moved apart with geographical seperation....

Vera
11-25-2004, 11:39 AM
I'd like to see you use proper punctuation before I reply to that.

Titus
11-25-2004, 11:41 AM
One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.

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Same here....

Evil babboon
11-25-2004, 11:41 AM
you just did,

if your waiting until i use it, so you can provide a on topic responce you will be waiting a long time,

shatskater
11-25-2004, 11:50 AM
alright here is the low down on me. i was brought up in a christian family. i went to church all my life, and in 5th to 7th grade, i really followed it and went along and studied that stuff, so i no what im talking about. and then in liek 8th grade i stopped and have been downing the church ever sense. but about a year ago i started to read the bible agian and found some amazing contradictions and lies. for example, eve was supposedly the first woman in the world, but it sez before that, "that on the sixth day god created man in his own image, he created man and women, he created them." but later eve was the first woman, see!! oh here is another. when adam and eve got kicked out of eden they had two sons cain and abel. and cain killed abel out of jealuosy, commiting the first murder, and god told him to wonder the world forever so he left, met a woman and had a son....how is that possible if the only woman in the world was eve? he was a sick prick screwing his mom. so see what i mean. now i think god is a childs story, like santa claus, it is said so some of us would be good. but we need to grow out of it, but some people have continued to be brainwashed by fundamentalistic church leaders who say ur donations will get u closer to god, but they want the money so they can buy a new toilet seat. bastards......so ya thats were i stand....thats why i am an atheist.

lousyskater
11-25-2004, 12:45 PM
i became an atheist at 8 years old. why so young you ask? well you see, i grew up in the worst part of town (pretty close to what compton is like) and saw a lot of poverty around me i wondered to myself "what kind of sick being would let it's own creations suffer like this? now, a lot of the people who lived in this area where very religious and they were born into the situation that they were in, so it didn't make any sense to me. i was in the same position myself, poor, on welfare, and only a few sets of clothes. on few occasions, i was actually homeless. i wondered why god would do such a thing to me. i hadn't done anything wrong, i was an innocent child. then, at some point my surroundings and, personal situation, and seeing other people suffering just made something click inside me. i had seen the world for what it really was and decided that there was no god. 4 years later, i was put into a group home because i had no where to live and i lived there from the age of 12 to 18. before i moved there, i really didn't have a full understanding of religion. but while living there, they tried to force christianity on me (the people who sponsored this group home was an organization called the Freemasons, probably one of the most religious groups in america) which completely turned me off to religion. the group home was located in a rich and very christian area too, so it was very hard to find anyone with similar beliefs to mine. luckily in high school, i made quite a few friends who where also atheists, so we decided to start our own atheist club. we figured there was no problem with having an atheist group because there wa a christian group on campus and even a muslim club. so we went around the school putting up flyers for our first meeting and later that day, we noticed that all of our flyres had vanished. so a couple days later, we put up new ones, but this time we saw where they were going. a bunch of kids were going around taking down our flyers. one of them had one of those "jesus is my homeboy" shirts on, so we figured out who they were immediatly. so we decided to do the same too them to see how they liked it. the next day we came to school and proceeded in taking down all of the christian club flyers we could find. almost immediatly the same group that tore down our flyers came up to us and started yelling at us. we told them we were simply doing the same to them that they did to us. and this is what one of them said: "you don't have the right to. you're atheists." you have no idea how much i was pissed and i almost punched the guy who said it, but one of my friends restrained me before i could do anything.

woah, i got a little carried away there, but oh well.
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wheelchairman
11-25-2004, 01:58 PM
Actually christianity has conflicting veiw all thru the bible, for example the old testiment is very "an eye for an eye"
new testiment is "turn the other check"

Wanna argue more or are you done as well as dumb?

The Book of Matthew

5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
And voi-fucking-la Jesus approves of the old Testament.

Religion is not about the holy book, religion is about the interpretation of the Hly Book. Perhaps this is why you are so confused.

wheelchairman
11-25-2004, 02:00 PM
Yea and like evolution, thats a fork in the evolution of religions where they branch, for example jews believe the same fundementals or christianity apart from they refuse to believe that jesus was the son of god,
the diffence between chatholosism and C of E is that C of E rejected the pope as the messenger of god......most religions started in the same area and moved apart with geographical seperation....
Incorrect, Islam started in Medina, in Saudi Arabia. At that time, the only Christians there would be ones who could not read the bible most likely, and probably practiced a vulgar form of Christianity.

shatskater
11-25-2004, 03:25 PM
down with facism......nazi punks f**k off...no more soviet union.....its all russia now......although i admit....Stalin was very interesting.......

lousyskater
11-25-2004, 03:34 PM
down with facism......nazi punks f**k off...no more soviet union.....its all russia now......although i admit....Stalin was very interesting.......
what the hell did that have to do with religion?
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shatskater
11-25-2004, 03:41 PM
nothing, i just felt like saying it.

4eh
11-25-2004, 03:48 PM
well, i don't know. May be its real, may be not, but as the 1st, so as the 2nd i don't worship to it.

Nicole
11-25-2004, 03:50 PM
I wouldn't call myself atheist but I'm not religious by any means. There's just some stuff out there that's unexplainable, there's some kind of force at work, but I'm not going to attribute it to some higher power.

latinospunkunidos
11-25-2004, 06:13 PM
im a wiccan... just got my iniciation or whatever that fuck is called.. 2 months ago. :D
i really dont believe in god as the person any religion portraits. i just believe that "god" is seen through the nature. my god is the sun my goddess is the moon, and yes i do have rituals...
usualyy wiccans are related with satanic stuff... WROOOOONG!
anyways, i totally have respect for other religions. although i think most of them are just a waste of time.

babycraze{Angie}
11-25-2004, 09:09 PM
well for starters, i was baptized in a Catholic church, raised on Catholicism, then about 10 years after my baptizism, i was baptized, yet again, in a Christian church without my permission, they neva even told me what in fuckin' hell was i doing, ever since then, my moms always wanted to go to church early as fuckin' hell in the morning every Sunday, so im like "maaannn fuck that shit" so im not Catholic nor Christian, nor any other religion, im Bad Religion, naaahhhhh just j/king but i could just say that becuz i belong to no religion, and im not an atheist either cuz i do believe God is real in sum way, and look or read really, don't be talking about "but i didn't deserve this" and "but i did that the right way" bullshit, whiney ass voice to me dammit! but newayz, there are good things and there are bad things in this world, and im saying that in general, but one thing is FOR SURE, that there is neva nething so good that can come without having sumthing seriously bad coming along with it, trust me, i would know, one week would be the best of my years, and then the next would be hell breaking loose on me worse than nebody. it's just a cycle, not a cycle of life bullshit, it's just the way it was made, ur brought here for one reason and one reason only, and that is NOT to support God, it is to find urself truly, and to do the best for urself, and others if u want to, that's all on u and u only. so in conclusion, im not labeled for shit. im just, Me. Me is my status. no need for more to be said.

SoCaL-oFfSpRiNg-cHiCk310
11-25-2004, 09:18 PM
i was born & raised a catholic but then i questioned my religion so now i dont believe in anything but my boyfriend wants me 2 go satanic cuz hes satanic but i dont wanna

shatskater
11-25-2004, 09:54 PM
i liek that otep song......WOMEN are the devil, GOD is a fraud.....very true....

Subsidal
11-26-2004, 05:22 AM
I believe in everything & nothing

babycraze{Angie}
11-26-2004, 11:51 AM
I believe in everything & nothing
niiiiiiiiiiiiiice, that's a good answer

Subsidal
11-26-2004, 11:55 AM
True answers are always nice ;)

QUEEF
12-01-2004, 01:01 PM
I wish I could believe in God. It probably can really help and give you strength (what people told me.) I just wish I had that.

But I can't stop thinking. Why the fuck would that bastard called God be as stupid as hell to let 15 year old people die? Whats the meaning of that?
and dont replay something like : because he needs angels. thats just bull.
I just cant believe.

*sorry for my words, i just get real angry when i think about this stuff.
yOU ARE SO RIGHT, I MEAN WHY WOULD "GOD" LET A 2 MONTH OLD BABY DIE, WHY WOULD HE LET AN OLDER MOTHER DIE WHEN ALL SHE HAD DONE WAS BE SO NICE AND HELPFUL TO PEOPLE ALL HER LIFE AND SHE BELIEVED IN HIM, WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE DO THAT, WAS HE THE ONE WHO MADE MISTAKES OR "SINS". HE IS AN ASS IF HE EXSITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

lousyskater
12-01-2004, 01:03 PM
god dammit (no pun intended) stop posting in all caps!

QUEEF
12-01-2004, 01:14 PM
to Joy : A lot of people told me that actually. 'She was an Angel.' or 'God needed her''. I hate it when people say that. Especially the ones who believe in God. They say things like that to make it right in a way. when it is far from right.Those people have NO idea what they are talking about, they just want so say something. And it was probably just because they wanted to be nice, well say something nice, not stupid and ignorant. But on the other hand, who am I to say they have a pathetic way of thinking.
I SO AGREE WITH YOU. I PROBABLY COULDNT SAY IT BETTER. WHEN I LOST MY MOM, SO MANY PEPLE TOLD ME GOD NEEDED HER AND ALL THAT SHIT, WELL FUCK WITH GOD MAN WHY DID HE NEED HER OF ALL PEOPLE. WHY WAS IT HER TIME TO DIE. AND FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT BY HURTING YOU A LITTLE GOD JUST MADE YOU STRONGER, WELL DID I REALLY FUCKING NEED TO BE RAPPED? DID A LITTLE BABY REALLY NEED TO BE MADE STRONGER BY BEING BEATEN? DOES SOMEBODY WHO HAS LITERALLY DONE NO WRONG (A NEWBORN BABY) WHO HASN'T BEEN BAD OR GOOD ENOUGH FOR GOD TO NEED HIM OR HER, A PERFECT BEING, REALLY NEED TO DIE OR BE NEEDED, HOW CAN THEY BE NEEDED. HOW CAN GOD SACRIFICE A CHILD AND HURT THE FAMILY OF THE CHILD SO BADLY JUST BECAUSE GOD NEEDS HIM OR HER, WELL MAYBE THE FAMILY NEEDS HIM OR HER. JUST MAYBE THE FAMILY WILL COMMIT SUICIDE (WHICH IS SUPPOSEDLY A SIN AND MAKES YOU GO TO HELL) ALL BECAUSE GOD WANTED THE CHILD. GOD SEEMS LIKE A REAL FUCK FACE AT THIS PIONT. THATS WHAT I THINK!!!

lousyskater
12-01-2004, 01:17 PM
stop posting in all caps! i know you probably feel strong about the subject, but jeeze, don't post in all caps.

saska de o...
12-01-2004, 01:20 PM
i believe in God

QUEEF
12-01-2004, 01:29 PM
stop posting in all caps! i know you probably feel strong about the subject, but jeeze, don't post in all caps.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL CAPS, IF I WERE TO PREACH (LIKE MY PREVIOUS POSTS HAVE BEEN) I WANT TO GRAB PEOPLES ATTENTION, ALL CAPS DOES THAT

lousyskater
12-01-2004, 01:42 PM
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL CAPS, IF I WERE TO PREACH (LIKE MY PREVIOUS POSTS HAVE BEEN) I WANT TO GRAB PEOPLES ATTENTION, ALL CAPS DOES THAT
no, it more or less makes people not want to read it. my eyes really fuck up when i see something in all caps. it also just annoys people too. i'm sure you want to grab people's attention, but with posting like that, all you're viable to get is the attention of idiots who won't even really think about the subject and just get pissed about your anti religion posts. with regular sized typing, you'll probably get more replies from more intelligent members on the board. i completely understand where you're coming from. i've lost many family members and have even witnessed my friend commit suicide, but that doesn't mean i should go around typing in all caps to get peoples attention to try to force my ideals on other people.

QUEEF
12-02-2004, 12:38 PM
no, it more or less makes people not want to read it. my eyes really fuck up when i see something in all caps. it also just annoys people too. i'm sure you want to grab people's attention, but with posting like that, all you're viable to get is the attention of idiots who won't even really think about the subject and just get pissed about your anti religion posts. with regular sized typing, you'll probably get more replies from more intelligent members on the board. i completely understand where you're coming from. i've lost many family members and have even witnessed my friend commit suicide, but that doesn't mean i should go around typing in all caps to get peoples attention to try to force my ideals on other people.
I would never want to force my ideas on people. All I was trying to do is let people have the opportunity to develop different ideas.I want people to understand different views so they can form one like mine if they think I am correct. Forcing my ideas on you would be saying, "DON'T BELEIVE IN GOD, BELEIVE IN WHAT I SAY AND THAT'S ALL!" which is clearly not what I said. Maybe you shouldn't speak unless you know what your talking about.

lousyskater
12-02-2004, 12:57 PM
I would never want to force my ideas on people.
posting in all caps makes it seem like you are.


I want people to understand different views so they can form one like mine if they think I am correct.

posting in all caps sure isn't gonna help with that. you need to be more calm about it. try to put yourself in the position of the average lost soul who doesn't know what to believe in. you happen to come across a post that is in all caps and is very blatantly disregarding the existance of a higher being. it immediatly catches your attention, but not only the way it is written makes you not want anything to do with it, but it gives off a bad vibe. now, if you were to compare that to the average "god loves you and doesn't wan't you to fail in life" line, what are you gonna pick? of course this post makes me sound like atheism is bad, but i myself am an atheist. but just going around and agressively denouncing the existance of god is not gonna get anyone to question their beliefs.


Maybe you shouldn't speak unless you know what your talking about.

i know exactly what i'm talking about.

QUEEF
12-02-2004, 01:06 PM
i know exactly what i'm talking about.[/QUOTE]
you may be saying what you think, but if you think your words are going to change the way I present my beliefs, your wrong. If the people (lost souls) are going to beleive me, then fine. Seeing as I like my own beliefs, I wouldn't give a shit if I changed someone to believe in what I beleive in. About the caps lock thing, if I were to see a post like that, it would be appealing to me, maybe not to you, but your not everyone.

lousyskater
12-02-2004, 01:10 PM
Seeing as I like my own beliefs, I wouldn't give a shit if I changed someone to believe in what I beleive in..


I want people to understand different views so they can form one like mine if they think I am correct.

i agree with a lot of the stuff you have said, but at least try not to contradict yourself.

saska de o...
12-02-2004, 01:12 PM
i believe in God

yummy yummy punkrockgirl
12-02-2004, 01:41 PM
i used to be an atheist

Trip Boy
12-02-2004, 01:44 PM
Even God makes mistakes. PunkRockGirl is one of them.

offsprung
12-02-2004, 02:04 PM
agnostic. but if there is a god I'm probably going to hell for saying that.

Trip Boy
12-02-2004, 02:06 PM
I doubt it. You'll be going to hell for raping that 12 year old Pedo.

DUKESTER76
12-02-2004, 03:24 PM
has anybody read the manual Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. dont read it, i hear it will make you go crazy. i was raised as a catholic but after some time and stuff i have gone thru i stopped really believing alot in my religion. and then with all these priest raping children, making church all about money, it just makes me think, these are God true followers and they are doing this?? well i believe in a god and devil and dont really follow either of them all the way. i just try not to think about religion much and go with my life as i see i need to.

lousyskater
12-02-2004, 03:31 PM
if there is a god and a heaven and hell, i was destined to go to hell before i was even born. i always found that funny though.

QUEEF
12-03-2004, 10:20 PM
[QUOTE=lousyskater]i agree with a lot of the stuff you have said, but at least try not to contradict yourself.[/QUOTE/]
What exactly is contradictory? I don't care if someone beleives in what I beleive in but I'm still not forcing my opinion on them. Again, I'm trying to show them my view.

shatskater
12-18-2004, 12:12 AM
question? if money is the root of all evil, why do churches beg for it?

slit_wrists
12-18-2004, 02:00 AM
well me and my brothers and sisters were all brought up as pagans but my sis decided to change to a christian so shes a bit of an outcast and my lil bro is now a jedi. so yeah im a pagan and proud!