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Duracell
11-09-2005, 03:04 PM
ok, I'd like to know from those of you who are religious, whats your thoughts/ views on the 9th comandment (shall not covet your neighbors wife) and Lust (one of the 7 deadly sins). And do you consider masturbating to be a sin. (Catholics do, I'm not sure about other religions though).

My random thoughts on these topics:

- Would I be breaking the 9th comandment if I'm watching porn, and the porn star involved is married?

-Would I be breaking the 9th comandment if I'm watching porn, and the porn star involved isn't married while the porno is filmed, but is currently married at the time I watch it?

-If I have a wet dream, does that still count as lust, even though its uncontrolled?

-Where exactly in biblical text does it say masturbating is a sin?

-Lust = sexual desire.

-My lust is uncontrollable how can I be held accontable, for dirty thoughts that just pop into my mind, after seeing a sexy female.


Please share your thoughts on this.

killer_queen
11-09-2005, 03:08 PM
I'm a muslim and I think none of those things you mentioned are sins. They're just silly.

bd007h
11-09-2005, 03:11 PM
Did Adam and Eve's children commit Incest?

the_offsprings_monkey
11-09-2005, 03:11 PM
Does beating someone close to death count as a sin??

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:11 PM
- You're doing a sin while watching porn even if the woman isn't married.

- Yes, you will.

- Those are thoughts from the demon, and although it is uncontrable, it's still a sin.

- It doesn't. But why are you masturbating? Because of the naughty thoughts or of porn, etc, which is a sin.

- Yes, it does.

- It's uncontrable, but if you're a christian, or such, you can repent your sins and wrong-doing by heart, and that sin would "dissapear", but it's still a sin.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:12 PM
Did Adam and Eve's children commit Incest?

No, they didn't. God created more humans as time processed.

T.O.M: Yes, because it's a bad intension.

the_offsprings_monkey
11-09-2005, 03:13 PM
What if that person committed one of the worse sins?

Amanda
11-09-2005, 03:15 PM
Yeah my family's beliefs are pretty much everything nimrod just said. I say fuck it. You only have one life to live.

The Talking Pie
11-09-2005, 03:15 PM
They're just there to help stop infidelity. If you feel like you've committed a sin by lusting over someone, then you wouldn't dream of acting on that lust. This all from an atheistic viewpoint, of course.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:16 PM
What if that person committed one of the worse sins?

It's a sin. But all sins are equal. A guy killing and rapping a woman is just as bad as a guy stealing a person. If you don't repent, you're going to hell.

the_offsprings_monkey
11-09-2005, 03:17 PM
Nimrod In Town']It's a sin. But all sins are equal. A guy killing and rapping a woman is just as bad as a guy stealing a person. If you don't repent, you're going to hell.
Fine I'm off to hell then.

Amanda
11-09-2005, 03:17 PM
What if that person committed one of the worse sins?
From what i know of christian beliefs, the only unforgiveable sins are the ones commited against the holy ghost. Stuff like talking agaisnt him, etc. I dunno for sure, go read a bible lol.

barangatang
11-09-2005, 03:19 PM
Tch The Bible. So many motherfucking rules. WE only got 10 rules to deal with.

the_offsprings_monkey
11-09-2005, 03:19 PM
From what i know of christian beliefs, the only unforgiveable sins are the ones commited against the holy ghost. Stuff like talking agaisnt him, etc. I dunno for sure, go read a bible lol.
Bible... Me... ummm I thought you knew me better then this.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:21 PM
From what i know of christian beliefs, the only unforgiveable sins are the ones commited against the holy ghost. Stuff like talking agaisnt him, etc. I dunno for sure, go read a bible lol.

Holy Spirit*

And no, it's not unforgiveable. You did it, it's bad, but, you can repent any sin by heart and its forgived.

The Talking Pie
11-09-2005, 03:26 PM
Holy Ghost*

It was only changed because of what Hallowe'en and Hollywood done to the term 'ghost'. And let's not get started about changing parts of religion...

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:31 PM
Holy Spirit*

SHUN! You atheist freak. It says spirit on the bible.

Duracell
11-09-2005, 03:35 PM
I don't really have a religion, but Chirsianity would be my religion of choice. I'm going to burn in hell for sure. Nimrod, where exactly does it say in the bible that porn is a sin? I sure as hell don't see it in the 10 comandments. But I guess if you watch porn you'll automatically be lusting. Why isn't lust in the 10 comandments, or is it?

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:37 PM
You commit adultery. No, adultery is not only having sex with a married woman, or such. It's also thinking "demonic" thoughts which is a sin. Adultery is lust in a way.

Duracell
11-09-2005, 03:42 PM
Nimrod In Town']You commit adultery. No, adultery is not only having sex with a married woman, or such. It's also thinking "demonic" thoughts which is a sin. Adultery is lust in a way.

No dude, thats wrong. Adultery, the 5th or 6th, is when you actuall have sex and you or her are married to someone else. thinking about having sex with a married women would be breaking the 9th comandment.

your reply still doesn't prove that it says in biblical text that porn is wrong. if she's not married then you wouldn't be breaking the 9th comandment, and definetly not adultery.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:49 PM
No dude, thats wrong. Adultery, the 5th or 6th, is when you actuall have sex and you or her are married to someone else. thinking about having sex with a married women would be breaking the 9th comandment.

your reply still doesn't prove that it says in biblical text that porn is wrong. if she's not married then you wouldn't be breaking the 9th comandment, and definetly not adultery.

You'll commit lust, which is a sin. 'Tard.

Amanda
11-09-2005, 03:50 PM
Nimrod In Town']Holy Spirit*

And no, it's not unforgiveable. You did it, it's bad, but, you can repent any sin by heart and its forgived.
what do you make of this: Mathew 12;32 "And whosoever speaketh a word against the son of men, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."? Or something like that lol. I'm not sure, i looked it up in the internet, but i think its correct.

Duracell
11-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Nimrod In Town']You'll commit lust, which is a sin. 'Tard.

yeah, I know that, fool. I've already said that. But why isn't lust in the 10 comandments. The 10 comandments are suppose to be the only rules we need to follow. Or is lust in the 10 comandments, idk?

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 03:59 PM
Well, yes, those are the rules you need to follow. It says don't commit sins; lust; porn.

Amanda: Yes, but , people do it all the time. You're not forgiven, but ifyou accept Jesus, God would ignore, you might say, that.

Duracell
11-09-2005, 04:08 PM
Nimrod In Town']Well, yes, those are the rules you need to follow. It says don't commit sins; lust; porn.

Amanda: Yes, but , people do it all the time. You're not forgiven, but ifyou accept Jesus, God would ignore, you might say, that.

Don't commit sins is a commandment, and what number does that happen to be?

Amanda
11-09-2005, 04:20 PM
Just to help clear things up:
- I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
-Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
-Remember thou keep holy the sabbath day.
-Honor thy father and thy mother.
-Thou shalt not kill.
-Thou shalt not commit adultery.
-Thou shalt not steal.
-Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neightbour.
-Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife.
-Thou shall not covet thy neighbour's goods.

NDM1
11-09-2005, 04:23 PM
Just a question for Duracell and Warning Nimrod in town? Are you guys both Christians? I am.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 04:25 PM
I am .

That's great, Amanda.

Duracell
11-09-2005, 04:36 PM
Just to help clear things up:
- I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
-Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
-Remember thou keep holy the sabbath day.
-Honor thy father and thy mother.
-Thou shalt not kill.
-Thou shalt not commit adultery.
-Thou shalt not steal.
-Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neightbour.
-Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife.
-Thou shall not covet thy neighbour's goods.

Thank you! I don't see anything about lust in there. Or anything else that would lead me to believe porn is wrong, unless the porn star is married.

Amanda
11-09-2005, 04:40 PM
But u also have to consider, that this was before jesus came. Of course following the commandments is still necessary, but jesus left us some other teachings and rules to guide our lives. It is in the bible actually, but i dont recall where exactly. Lol i suck at this religious stuff.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-09-2005, 04:43 PM
But it's a damn sin, retard. You can't do it. Get over it. Those are the rules. You can't sin. Watching porn is sining, retard.

Duracell
11-09-2005, 04:50 PM
It's not in the ten commandments, you fugly mutha fucka'.

Well I guess I'll be burning in hell for all of eternity.

the_offsprings_monkey
11-09-2005, 04:51 PM
I have my hand inside my boxers right now... is this a sin?

EDIT: I'm not doing a wishomie lolz

Amanda
11-09-2005, 04:53 PM
It's not in the ten commandments, you fugly mutha fucka'.

Well I guess I'll be burning in hell for all of eternity.
Lmao awww cmon, you can still recognize the errors of your ways. 50 years from now...

Duracell
11-09-2005, 05:03 PM
Lmao awww cmon, you can still recognize the errors of your ways. 50 years from now...

If I don't kill myself before then.

the_offsprings_monkey
11-09-2005, 05:04 PM
If I don't kill myself before then.
EMO SLAG!!!

Amanda
11-09-2005, 05:05 PM
If I don't kill myself before then.
In that case ur screwed. I don't think u can repent suicide, i mean, ur already dead anyways lol.

Duracell
11-09-2005, 05:15 PM
In that case ur screwed. I don't think u can repent suicide, i mean, ur already dead anyways lol.

yea, if you kill yourself, you go to hell for sure.

Officer Counterfit
11-09-2005, 05:17 PM
and if you survive suicide you go to jail

Amanda
11-09-2005, 05:17 PM
and if you survive suicide you go to jail
Wich is completely ridiculous.

Sin Studly
11-09-2005, 05:18 PM
I'm a muslim and I think none of those things you mentioned are sins. They're just silly.

Bahahahahahhahahahaa, Islam is less fanatical than Christianity, you stupid Jesusmongerers. *loves gulsah*

Amanda
11-09-2005, 05:21 PM
You know that's all bullshit. Muslims don't think pornography, masturbation, etc are sins? Yeah fucking right...

Duracell
11-10-2005, 06:21 AM
I sin'd this morning around 1:30 am, I lusted while I watched porn.

the_offsprings_monkey
11-10-2005, 06:28 AM
I sinned today by punching my mate, and threatening them people who walk round town shouting stuff about god.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 09:57 AM
Duracell, the 10 commandments are rules to living. Sinning is a bad thing, right? It says 'do not sin' (in those lines) in the 10 commandments, so, shut the fuck up. Because lust is a sin. You idiotic retard.

Duracell
11-10-2005, 10:00 AM
Well wouldn't breaking a ten comandment be sinning? I think so. So, why not just have one comandment. #1 Do not sin. That should clear everything up and leave no grey areas at all.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 10:02 AM
Yeah, go tell that to Moses, and God. They wrote it.

Just a Girl
11-10-2005, 10:29 AM
I sinned today by punching my mate, and threatening them people who walk round town shouting stuff about god.

did you know that you're a cunt and no-one thinks you're big, clever, or hard?

just thought you needed telling/reminding.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 10:31 AM
He's trying to act tough. Ignore him.

bd007h
11-10-2005, 10:32 AM
I'm catholic but I really could care less about religion

Irish_rebel
11-10-2005, 10:52 AM
First off I'm an agnostic whose wasted a good 2 years of his life arguiung something as stupid and frivolous ar religion. Now that that is established I'd like to end this abscess of stupidity.

The ten commandments are in the old testament which the Chirstian faith does NOT follow. They follow the new testament the teachings of Jesus Christ not of Moses. Though the ten commandments were given to Moses by God they were to be given to the Hebrews not the rest of the world. then Jesus came along and opened the "door to salvation" to the rest of the world and changed the rules a bit. most notable is "eye for an eye" being replaced with "turn the other cheek". So don't worry about the 10 commandments too much unless you're a jew.

Further more I believe the Bible is 80% crap. No offense is intended its just that it cntradicts itself so much. Even though I may not believe it word for word there are still some pretty good rules in it.

As for having the thoughts as a teenage male thats nearly impossible to control acting on them however is another thing entirely. I may not be a christian but i am against premarital sex and pornography. Heh heh "everybody's getting with I say, Consequences are a lot but hey, thats the way things go" .

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 10:54 AM
Exactly. Im agaisnt porn too. Im pentecostale christian, though.

the_GoDdEsS
11-10-2005, 11:53 AM
The rulers of hell would want to fuck me and put me next to them on the throne if they knew my sick mind. I play innocent. I used to be a Christian too and Jesus, do they still make you confess masturbation to the priest? Ugh.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 11:59 AM
Only Catholics do. Im a christian, and i repent my sins to Jesus, no-one else.

Vera
11-10-2005, 12:23 PM
Sometimes I'm not surprised some people think Christianity is a whole load of bollocks.

I mean, "sinning" for example. It says very clearly in the Bible that every child ever born is a sinner. Only accepting Jesus as your saviour will make your sins forgiven.

That goes against so many things I believe in. A baby is a sinner? Fuck you, the child has done nothing but kicked around his tiny apartment a couple of times during pregnancy.

Also, the whole idea that you can sin and sin and sin -- and then be forgiven! And then you can sin again ...and be forgiven! Endless cycle. What a load of crap. Jesus even gives you back your virginity I mean what the HELL.

This is nothing against someone's faith, just some reasons why I doubt Christianity will ever be the religion of my choice.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 12:28 PM
Well, you can only be forgiven if you repent of your sins by heart and accept Jesus. And people who truly accept Jesus won't sin again...all the time.

And when a baby is born and they die, they go to heaven. As they grow older, they know bad from wrong, and sin.

Vera
11-10-2005, 12:33 PM
Even babies of Hindu parents? Muslim parents? Buddhist parents?

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 12:40 PM
Yep. Any infant is "sin-less".

Vera
11-10-2005, 12:41 PM
That's not what the Bible says.

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 12:45 PM
Well, on the Bible it says if you die an infant you go to heaven. Because you have not commited anything wrong.

Vera
11-10-2005, 12:59 PM
Hmm, well, there's a bit of a contradiction there, is there not?

notoriousdoc
11-10-2005, 01:04 PM
Get over it, it's not like god exists or anything

[Warning] Nimrod In Town
11-10-2005, 01:09 PM
Hmm, well, there's a bit of a contradiction there, is there not?

It says it as an expression. 'Cause everyone sins. EVERYONE.

NotDoc: Screw you.

the_GoDdEsS
11-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Get over it, it's not like god exists or anything

Go out and run. You'll do better.