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endlesst0m
01-05-2006, 12:59 PM
I REALLY want free music. But I REALLY DON'T want viruses,which destroyed the last computer I got,and started to appear right after I got Limewire.

Now I have a new computer,and a program I bought called "Norton Anti-Virus". I want to download stuff from Limewire, but I want to know how to avoid viruses, so if you know any tips,please share!!!

Tizzalicious
01-05-2006, 01:01 PM
Don't use programs, I think those have most virusses.

Sunny
01-05-2006, 01:02 PM
yes.

get a mac.

the_GoDdEsS
01-05-2006, 01:08 PM
Nobody tell me it can virus me up as long as I don't download .exe files. PLEASE? I don't want my computer to get fucked up the arse with spyware and Troyans again.

T-6005
01-05-2006, 01:10 PM
I've never gotten a virus from an .mp3 file.

the_GoDdEsS
01-05-2006, 01:11 PM
I never downloaded .exe files on BearShare and it still happened. I'm not touching that thing again.

XYlophonetreeZ
01-05-2006, 01:13 PM
Definitely don't share your files. And if possible, resist downloading porn. That oughta help. I have Limewire, I use Adaware, and I haven't gotten viruses in months.

Endymion
01-05-2006, 01:22 PM
lol, just viewing a jpg on windows will allow someone to take full control of your computer RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. the exploit's been known a while and MS has yet to put out a patch. they say maybe it'll be ready next tuesday. in the mean time don't look at jpgs.

use a mac.

not getting viruses over p2p is as simple as not being retarded. be careful of what you download, be sure that it's not named something like "music.mp3 (lots of spaces) .exe" etc.

and for music, soulseek is the best choice.

the_GoDdEsS
01-05-2006, 01:24 PM
lol, just viewing a jpg on windows will allow someone to take full control of your computer RIGHT THIS VERY MINUTE. the exploit's been known a while and MS has yet to put out a patch. they say maybe it'll be ready next tuesday. in the mean time don't look at jpgs.


That's so not funny.

Endymion
01-05-2006, 01:28 PM
That's so not funny.
and yet it's so true.

endlesst0m
01-05-2006, 01:31 PM
not getting viruses over p2p is as simple as not being retarded. be careful of what you download, be sure that it's not named something like "music.mp3 (lots of spaces) .exe" etc.


To be honest, I have no idea what to look for to tell if something "looks like a virus" or not. What other things should I look for that usually indicate a virus?

endlesst0m
01-05-2006, 01:32 PM
use a mac, use a mac... easier said than done alot of things ain't compatible with it.

What's so great about using a mac? How is it better for avoiding viruses?

endlesst0m
01-05-2006, 01:34 PM
viruses are designed for microsoft systems.

Whats so special about Mac's, why can't somebody design a virus for a Mac?

Sunny
01-05-2006, 01:38 PM
use a mac, use a mac... easier said than done alot of things ain't compatible with it.

like what exactly?

Endymion
01-05-2006, 01:38 PM
rule number one when downloading things is NEVER DOWNLOAD SOMETHING EXECUTABLE. unfortunately, this is difficult to do sometimes with windows because it uses mimetypes AND extensions to understand file types, plus non-executable data is treated as executable sometimes (mp3 tags, other metadata usually). if you just want to download music, i'd use soulseek. it's basically old-school napster with lots of extras.

why are macs more secure than windows? i'd say the number one reason is that one is NEVER running as an administrator-level account. that means that code running on your computer can not do things harmful to the system, just your user account. this, on top of that most of the system is built on a freebsd userspace on a mach-style kernel results is a very secure system. all the low-level stuff has been proven secure over the past ten years. freebsd is probably the most secure general use OS around (i don't consider openbsd 'general use').

Endymion
01-05-2006, 01:40 PM
too few ppl use macs, it's not profitable to hit macs.
myth. apache on freebsd is the most popular webserver setup and yet, excluding php script exploits, iis on windows is the most hacked system.

Sunny
01-05-2006, 01:45 PM
ek. i meant.. software-wise.

sKratch
01-05-2006, 01:52 PM
Yeah the golden rule is don't download stupid shit. Make sure you have file extensions turned on, because then song.mp3.exe won't show up as song.mp3.

Endymion
01-05-2006, 03:37 PM
it's the shit. My economy teacher last year was using a mac & I dunno how he set about the task but he didn't even get to convert the files he sent us.

& you've got more functional software on a pc, I'm sorry but the principal asset of the mac is its beautifully silky design; & of course, the fact that the prob you'll be hacked is marginal.
i have no idea what you're talking about. what functionality are you missing on a mac that you do have on a windows pc?

Chimera512
01-05-2006, 05:24 PM
not getting viruses over p2p is as simple as not being retarded. yeah, too bad most people using computers don't know anything about what they're doing...


you've got more functional software on a pc, I'm sorry but the principal asset of the mac is its beautifully silky design; & of course, the fact that the prob you'll be hacked is marginal.

i also have no idea what you're talking about.
"more functional software?" you mean that pc software runs better all the time?

things that make sense from that comment: i think maybe what you're trying to say is that macs are purchased for their design and better overal security? and the probablity that you'll be "hacked" is pretty low as long as you're not an idiot and you run virus protection, a firewall, and some spyware detection/removal programs (that term is very often misused when it's only applied to doing malicious things to your computer, "taking advnatage of an exploit" would be a more appropriate term)

Chimera512
01-05-2006, 05:56 PM
as far as downloading things, i would suggest using bittorrent in general, it can be very fast and i've been able to find alot of stuff i'm looking for on there.

Endymion
01-05-2006, 06:04 PM
you're all in luck! apparently microsoft changed their mind and released a patch for the WMF exploit earlier today, rather than waiting until their normal once-a-month patch day.

sorry i was rushed before, i was late for a lunch date. to be more clear on why macs tend to me more secure than windows: the design of users and groups was there from the beginning. only those who should have access to a resource have access to said resource. this means that a normal user can not write to any area of the file system, only their home directory. a normal user can not use all the hardware available to the system, only what is deemed safe for them to have access to. this means you generally do not have control of all network ports, only those above 1023. you can not mount any filesystems. etc etc. to do tasks that require those resources, you must do them from the root account (or other account that has been set up to have those privileges). this requires the root password. all the daemons and programs you run are run under your account, and so only have the access to resources that you do. this means that if YOU get a virus, it can not attack areas of the system that you do not have access to normally. if you get hacked, the attacker only has access to areas of the system that you normally have access to. the kernel is responsible for making sure that processes only have access to areas that they're suppose to. the kernel on OSX is open source and has been audited numerous times for security errors. in addition to the kernel is the userland tools. these are taken from freebsd and have also been audited for security.

basically what it boils down to is that software can not be installed on a mac without YOU entering a password. almost every area of the filesystem is inaccessable unless YOU enter a password. viruses can not infect system files unless YOU let them, software can't magically install just be visiting a webpage unless YOU type in a password. getting around the password requirement would take finding a very obscure bug in something, as the freebsd and darwin code has been audited many, many times and the freebsd stuff (which darwin also borrows from) has been thuroughly tested in the field, seeing as it's by and large the most popular webserver on the net.

sKratch
01-05-2006, 11:24 PM
I don't think "thorough" quite describes Endy.

Endymion
01-05-2006, 11:36 PM
*shrug* all the games are still written for windows, so it's not going anywhere.

Lars
01-06-2006, 02:06 AM
Intel Mac, maybe? Curious how games will develop then. Will this result in mac game prices dropping after a year and not still residing at the same price?


If you're really that paranoid about downloading. Scan each single file (or the directories that you download into before using them. I still have a habit of scanning executables I download on the net when using windows.

endlesst0m
01-06-2006, 10:56 AM
how do you scan them? do you just right click on them or something?

notoriousdoc
01-06-2006, 11:41 AM
Use Ares, it kicks ass

ruroken
01-06-2006, 12:22 PM
rule number one when downloading things is NEVER DOWNLOAD SOMETHING EXECUTABLE. unfortunately, this is difficult to do sometimes with windows because it uses mimetypes AND extensions to understand file types, plus non-executable data is treated as executable sometimes (mp3 tags, other metadata usually). if you just want to download music, i'd use soulseek. it's basically old-school napster with lots of extras.

NERD
*headache*

Megs
01-06-2006, 12:42 PM
I REALLY want free music. But I REALLY DON'T want viruses,which destroyed the last computer I got,and started to appear right after I got Limewire.

Now I have a new computer,and a program I bought called "Norton Anti-Virus". I want to download stuff from Limewire, but I want to know how to avoid viruses, so if you know any tips,please share!!!
i have norton anti virus , and no problems with the free limewire whatsoever.....*shrug* might be just my computer

Lars
01-06-2006, 01:37 PM
how do you scan them? do you just right click on them or something?
you could do that, or tell the antivirus which directory/files to scan.

Idiot
01-06-2006, 01:47 PM
Use SoulSeek

Or learn to identify whats a virus and what isn't. Sure, you can never know for sure, but I just check a few things such as filename, file extension, and file size and I haven't had a virus from Limewire in months.