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Panzerfaust92
12-06-2004, 07:24 AM
Is America safer because of what's been done in the last 20 months?

I'll get back to you later with my opinions.

wheelchairman
12-06-2004, 07:37 AM
You suck at starting debates.

No it is not. But then again, it wasn't really in any danger. Terrorism has been exploited to make people afraid.

Panzerfaust92
12-06-2004, 07:55 AM
Well weelchairman, I appreciate the honesty. I could feel your vitriolic tone from here and I'm like 3500 kilometers from Denmark. I'm a new guy here.

Anyway, I happen to agree with you that America is not safer, and I would like to elaborate. First they said they had actual proof that he had these weapons, and after they didn't find any, they said that Saddam had the intent of building these weapons, or that he had weapons of mass destruction related activities, or something like that. There are almost 50 million people in Iraq. I don't think Saddam was the only one with the intent of producing these weapons.
Also, I don't think the overall opinion of Iraqis toward America has improved either. Many of those who hated us before were kind of just going with the flow. For example, many children hated America because their fathers did and they just took after them because they didn't know any better, but because of our actions there, many children and teenagers hate America more directly because their fathers or brothers or cousins were killed by Americans, and hate is the root of rash actions.

Vera
12-06-2004, 08:02 AM
There are almost 50 million people in Iraq. I don't think Saddam was the only one with the intent of producing these weapons.
Are you saying all Iraqis are suspects for creating weapons of mass destruction?

lousyskater
12-06-2004, 08:26 AM
america definately isn't any safer than before. the whole terror alert scale thing is just a load of shit. a terrorist could easily attack when the terror alert is lower, so that they catch people off guard. it is useless, if not putting america at even more of a risk. and especially with a direct threat from Bin Laden himself saying that if we don't stop interfering with things in the middle east, he will organize another attack on the US, and Bush isn't gonna pull out any time soon. and if there is another attack, chances are it will either be in New York again, D.C. again, or LA. if there is an attack in LA i will be directly effected by it because i live in the LA area. i found it kind of funny that the places most likely to get attacked in the next terror attack all voted against bush.

Panzerfaust92
12-06-2004, 08:36 AM
All I'm saying is that the intent to create these weapons can be anywhere. It doesn't help to worry about it, but the risk is there. If there are Iraqis with the intent of building weapons, it is a small percentage, but I don't think taking out the main man solved the problem.

lousyskater
12-06-2004, 08:45 AM
All I'm saying is that the intent to create these weapons can be anywhere. It doesn't help to worry about it, but the risk is there. If there are Iraqis with the intent of building weapons, it is a small percentage, but I don't think taking out the main man solved the problem.
either do i, but finding every single terrorist in Iraq is like trying to find very small needles in a very large haystack.

Vera
12-06-2004, 08:51 AM
As far as I know, you can't build a weapon of mass destruction just like that. It takes a lot of resources, resources that I doubt anyone in Iraq would possess right now.

Panzerfaust92
12-06-2004, 09:36 AM
Yes, but that leads me to ask the question, If they don't have the resources now, how could they have had them 2 years ago?

wheelchairman
12-06-2004, 09:53 AM
They believed it based on the incorrect judgement of what a few cylinders could do.

lousyskater
12-06-2004, 09:53 AM
Yes, but that leads me to ask the question, If they don't have the resources now, how could they have had them 2 years ago?
exactly. but we all know that the whole WMD's reasoning for the war has been thrown out the window.

jimmyjimjimz
12-06-2004, 01:29 PM
Honestly, no, I don't think America is safer. Maybe certian parts are safer, like NYC, but as a whole country, we're not safer. Bush is turning allies into enemies. Like France. They used to be our friends, now all because of Bush, theyre our enemies. With all these enimies, how will we not get attacked? And, someone said that the terror alert scale thing is bullshit. I agree. Because, you're right. There can still be a terrorist attack when it's at low or whatever. They just made that up to scare everyone. That's republicians for you.

Vera
12-06-2004, 01:41 PM
I doubt any of the European countries who're not digging Bush's actions will launch an attack on the United States. We're not fucking stupid. WW2 feels like yesterday. Nobody in Europe wants the US to bomb our asses up.

Vera
12-06-2004, 01:42 PM
Yes, but that leads me to ask the question, If they don't have the resources now, how could they have had them 2 years ago?
Because Saddam was a pimp.

In other words, I don't fucking know and I won't pretend I do.

number70
12-12-2004, 04:15 AM
this has got to be the crappest thread i've ever seen. tsh...

number70
12-12-2004, 04:16 AM
tsh, pathetic...

Panzerfaust92
12-12-2004, 03:13 PM
You know what i'm gonna do, number 70? I'm gonna go to the threads you started and insult them. Not really, but I'm crying so much right now, that I can hardly type this.