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Kerr
01-25-2006, 12:29 PM
Can anyone recommend me some songs by Acid Jazz bands, and then recommend an album from that band (preferably with the songs you recommended by that band)?

And alongside that, a bit of Rock 'n' Roll too? I prefer older rock 'n' roll - not quite 50's though please (unless the best, pure rock 'n' roll is exclusively from that period).

killer_queen
01-25-2006, 12:36 PM
When anyone says rock n roll Jerry Lee Lewis comes to my mind. I've always loved his style on piano and playing his songs is one of the most enjoyable things. And you know, Johnny Be Good is a classic. Blue Suede Shoes is one of my favourites too. I'll post all of my favourites list when I find it.

About Acid Jazz, I really don't like it. I prefer Manhattan Transfer kind of jazz, I don't know what do you call it. Just jazz?

Kerr
01-26-2006, 12:24 PM
Thanks Gulsa.

And no, I am not an expert on Jazz so I wouldn't know. Do you know any Jazz Rock or Jazz Metal bands?

coke_a_holic
01-26-2006, 01:06 PM
Mr. Bungle's got some Jazz/Metal songs, Les Claypool's Frog Brigade has a saxophone that occasionally creates a jazzier sound, and there are some others. Ask Jebus, he knows all.

Kerr
01-26-2006, 01:27 PM
Cheers Mike - and I am actually getting into Mr. Bungle. I can't get enough of Carry Stress in the Jaw, and I might go buy Disco Volante. I am going to PM Jebus anyhow.

coke_a_holic
01-26-2006, 01:30 PM
You should definitely get Disco Volante, I am currently in love with it.

igniton/pyro
01-26-2006, 01:45 PM
elvis.....

Kerr
01-26-2006, 01:50 PM
You should definitely get Disco Volante, I am currently in love with it.
Ah yes, and Search for Techno Allah (or something like that) is also very good. The songs are major growers though.

I/P - cheers for the suggestion, but I actually loathe Elvis.

Endymion
01-26-2006, 01:56 PM
nieh is pwning everyone.

for rock and/or roll check out Three Bad Jacks. their new album (crazy in the head) is hella good.

nieh
01-26-2006, 02:23 PM
If I'm not mistaken, acid jazz is more jazz mixed with dance rock. I unfortunately don't know anything like that. Some bands with jazz influence:

Mr. Bungle (and their related bands Fantomas and Secret Chiefs 3, but mostly just Mr. Bungle). Yes, get Disco Volante. It's teh awesome. California's good too but much less crazy.

John Zorn and/or Naked City. Zorn does a lot of solo stuff and has had a lot of other bands. He was a big influence over bands like Mr. Bungle and Fantomas what with the whole genre hopping thing. I'm really getting into Naked City. I'm on the 4th disc out of 5 of their box set. So far, disc 2 and 4 are looking to be my favorites. 4 isn't as fast as their earlier stuff and they almost completely got rid of the noise and grindcore influence which makes it much friendlier than the first two discs were. They also make much smoother transitions between the genres than they did on the first album making it sound less like they just wrote a bunch of pieces of songs and cut and pasted them together at random, so that makes it more pleasing to me cause that was one of my main problems with it. Anyway, he's worth checking out.

Liquid Tension Experiment. Regarding their line-up, they're essentially Dream Theater without the singer . They sound like Dream Theater with a bit of jazz thrown in. I personally don't really like these guys, but I don't really like Dream Theater either.

Soul Coughing. They're kind of a mish-mash of hip-hop, jazz, drum & bass and pop. Their first album had the most jazz influence, so if that's what you're looking for check out Sugar Free Jazz, Is Chicago, Is Not Chicago and Screenwriter's blues. I like these guys a bunch but hardly ever listen to them. Actually, now that I think about it, these guys could probably pass for acid jazz at times with the whole mish-mash of drum and bass and jazz.

The Cardigans. They play fluffy, jazzy, cute pop. Their the ones that did that Lovefool song but they don't really normally sound like that song. Their early stuff was bright and sunny and fluffy and happy and makes everyone drool stupidly by the time they get to the third track. Their later stuff was slow, boring, semi-countryish atmospheric stuff that they weren't really any good at. Get their album "Life". It's great from beginning to end and they even have a cute cover of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath on it.

Endymion
01-26-2006, 02:26 PM
the plot to blow up the eiffel tower
last exit

others that don't come to mind this instant

Endymion
01-26-2006, 02:28 PM
from what i understand, acid jazz is kinda like jazz with some punk-esque guitar. not very good, in my opinion. jazzcore is more what i prefer, which is more like what the harder/noisier naked city is. but naked city's got a lot lot lot of good stuff that's all over the place musically.

Endymion
01-26-2006, 02:33 PM
eh, wikipedia says i'm wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_jazz

nieh
01-26-2006, 02:34 PM
Wikipedia says it's soul, funk and disco mixed with jazz. It SOUNDS like it should be punkish, noisy jazz, but wikipedia doesn't lie, man.

Kerr
01-26-2006, 02:43 PM
Thanks to you all for all this. I will download now/sometime soon.

Endymion
01-26-2006, 03:29 PM
Wikipedia says it's soul, funk and disco mixed with jazz. It SOUNDS like it should be punkish, noisy jazz, but wikipedia doesn't lie, man.

wikipedia makes it sound like q and not u is almost acid jazz. you know, if they had a bit of sax in there or something.

nieh
01-26-2006, 03:41 PM
I could kinda see that. With some sax and a bit of improv, they could pass for that pretty well. Kerr, you'd probably like Q and Not U if you don't already know them. They sound kinda like Fugazi with a dance beat.

Endymion
01-26-2006, 04:59 PM
if you like q and not u you'll probably like moving unit and the chinese stars too.

Jebus
01-26-2006, 07:34 PM
The following bands are all crazy instrumental fusion bands(except the victor stuff) so just a warning if you don't like that type of stuff. I don't really feel like describing them so I'll just post a couple songs for each band. Btw, rock/jazz is usually refered as fusion

I also recall you refering Primus as acid jazz. I haven't really heard that before.

Planet X - Moonbabies ( http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2L13S8DLFE79X1DM9VYCQDT5P5)
Planet X - Noble Savage (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=36N1OYIZC8LNN12F9UP5HZGNM5)
LTE - Acid Rain ( http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1OFMSOHVXLQ4A0XV6DVO5VAV5S)
LTE - Biaxident ( http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IKWPY7XWG6GP2L784SWV3FSW)
Ozric Tentacles - coily (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HRTMQ2A157L30TNAFHBFJX76C)
Ozric Tentacles - Zingu (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34Q6D2QDGUAT62PR63AC22Y5TC)
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds of Fire (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3QQ660XUR7JG62LUIGE0XDA84A)
Mahavishnu Orchestra - Miles Beyond (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3AJIVUF8YS03J351Y0S7YKW0QX)
Derek Sherinian - Day of the Dead (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3T8NGEZDLJTY71RD1HF7RA18IO)
Derek Sherinian - Trojan Horse (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A646JMG2W77G2G6NY3W7DVWCL)
Stu Hamm - Counter Zero (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2GO4LCZMALJGE3LN7FH7MLEZ94)
Stu Hamm - Black Ice (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3JGDR211T25CI3MLYR49CSYT6T)
Victor Wooten - Me and my bass guitar (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IPQN5GVG3JWP2F704U06WJJS3)
Victor Wooten - Victa (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3Q3EC0KOL84I20FJCYC3HX1RXV)

EDIT: just incase you didn't make the connection, LTE = Liquid Tension Experiment

coke_a_holic
01-26-2006, 08:10 PM
Primus definitely have some jazz influence (not much, but I can see it clearly in a few songs), but it's not their main genre of music.

nieh
01-27-2006, 02:34 PM
There's also Dillinger Escape Plan. I'm surprised I forgot about them. They mix extreme metal, hardcore and jazz and have time changes pretty much every few seconds. VERY difficult to get into though. It took me a long time to get to the point where I don't hate them and even now I almost never listen to them. Calculating Infinity is the album you want to look for. Their second album's supposed to be more accessible, but also not as good and interesting. Supposedly there's one song on it that could pass for Linkin Park, but I haven't heard it so I can't say for sure.

Also, I'd say Presidents qualify as Rock and Roll, but they're more recent. Their third album, "Freaked out and Small" was lots of fun. Their other stuff is alright too, but not nearly as good (unless you ask Paint it Black, but he's wrong). Check out Tiny Explosions and Jupiter to get a feel for the album.

Kerr
01-28-2006, 05:36 AM
There's also Dillinger Escape Plan. I'm surprised I forgot about them. They mix extreme metal, hardcore and jazz and have time changes pretty much every few seconds. VERY difficult to get into though. It took me a long time to get to the point where I don't hate them and even now I almost never listen to them. Calculating Infinity is the album you want to look for. Their second album's supposed to be more accessible, but also not as good and interesting. Supposedly there's one song on it that could pass for Linkin Park, but I haven't heard it so I can't say for sure.

Also, I'd say Presidents qualify as Rock and Roll, but they're more recent. Their third album, "Freaked out and Small" was lots of fun. Their other stuff is alright too, but not nearly as good (unless you ask Paint it Black, but he's wrong). Check out Tiny Explosions and Jupiter to get a feel for the album.
Presidents as in The Presidents of the United States of America?

if so, I downloaded Pure Frosting, but haven't listened to it yet...

Kerr
01-28-2006, 05:40 AM
Primus definitely have some jazz influence (not much, but I can see it clearly in a few songs), but it's not their main genre of music.
Funk Rock with Metal Influence?

nieh
01-28-2006, 10:37 AM
Presidents as in The Presidents of the United States of America?

if so, I downloaded Pure Frosting, but haven't listened to it yet...

Yeah, that's them. Freaked Out and Small was the only album of theirs where they actually used regular guitar and bass as opposed to 2 and 3 string "guitbass" and "bassitar" (not my names for them). Their songwriting obviously changed a bit for that album and sounded less novelty-ish to me. I still like their other albums myself, but they're not the kind of thing I typically recommend to people.

Also, check out Stereolab for some jazzy stuff. They make very pretty music which ranges from oddball jazz to heavily orchestrated pop. Even their poppy stuff tends to have a lot of jazz in the mix. I'm not a fan of their earlier stuff (too simplistic and repetitive, but I know other people like Break prefer it over their later stuff so check it out too if you want). I'd recommend you check out Fuses; Blips, Drips and Strips; Metronomic Underground (try to get the ABC Music version of this if you can find it, but settle with the regular album version if you can't. The ABC music one has nicer sounding keyboards); Cybele's Reverie; Space Moth.

You might want to check out Can as well. They were a 60s/70s jazzy German band that were really influential over bands like Pavement, Stereolab, Radiohead, etc. Check out One More Night and Vitamin C. They have better songs, but I can't for the life of me remember their titles. Sing Swan Sing is actually one of my favorites by them, but it's not the jazziest song they've done.

coke_a_holic
01-28-2006, 11:07 AM
Funk Rock with Metal Influence?
There's also some Blues and Jazz influence in a few songs, you just have to listen for it. Les definitely takes some influence from Jaco Pastorius, an amazing jazz bassist.

Presidents of the USA = <3 Millions of peaches... Peaches for me.

Kerr
01-28-2006, 03:39 PM
I hadn't a clue that the Presidents of the USA were so popular - their cover of Video Killed the Radio Star is MUCH MUCH better than the original.

nieh, once again, thanks - I am downloading these songs as of now. And thanks for the links Jebus. Thanks to all. I will try to find time to listen to them, and listen to some tonight as well.