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ShitMaster
02-15-2006, 06:07 PM
I was always wondering why they don't put songs from The Offspring and Ignition on they compilations or something similar?I personally think that songs from those two albums are the best in their discography!
And that compilation I think it was against Bush or something, they put Beheaded, instead of the perfect match for that opportunity - Kill The President.
I would perhaps make a scandal, but isn't that what punk is!!!!!!
Let's make them the best fuckin band in the world!!!!

alistair13
02-15-2006, 06:11 PM
alright... we're all with you on this?

Lupin
02-15-2006, 06:19 PM
Wasn't it Baghdad...a version of terhan, not beheaded on the Rock Against Bush cd.....im not pickin' i just think it is
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Drummerguy123
02-15-2006, 06:25 PM
Baghdad was on the Rock Out Against Bush album.

Lupin
02-15-2006, 06:28 PM
Isn't that what the threds about.......
Quote ..............And that compilation I think it was against Bush or something.............
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DeAtHsTaR
02-15-2006, 06:33 PM
I was always wondering why they don't put songs from The Offspring and Ignition on they compilations or something similar?I personally think that songs from those two albums are the best in their discography!
And that compilation I think it was against Bush or something, they put Beheaded, instead of the perfect match for that opportunity - Kill The President.
I would perhaps make a scandal, but isn't that what punk is!!!!!!
Let's make them the best fuckin band in the world!!!!
On Rock Against Bush, they put Baghdad on.

Lupin
02-15-2006, 06:40 PM
Yahaaa
Cheers obidobanoobi


anyone seen Thumb Wars...great star wars parody by the man who made ACEVENTURA.
p.s. they're thinking of making bill&ted3.......hmmm??
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Venom Symbiote
02-15-2006, 09:18 PM
C-O-L-U-M-B-I-A.

;)

The record label change is why they barely play anything pre-Ixnay aside from the Smash singles. That changed with the Warped Tour '05 for a brief period, but I'm not sure what the legal details are with that.

But yeah, in general Columbia doesn't want them playing stuff that was released on Epitaph. They probably can't STOP them from doing it (I'm sure the guys would own at least a creative control stake in the first three album's material), but it's frowned upon.

Llamas
02-15-2006, 11:35 PM
1) it was baghdad and not beheaded
2) baghdad was a better choice than kill the president, because as dexter has said many times, kill the president has nothing to do with the president. baghdad was an anti-war song
3) baghdad IS an old song
4) if they were doing newer songs, it would make sense anyway because they want to promote their new music instead of living in the past.

Venom Symbiote
02-16-2006, 05:22 AM
QUOTE:
"because as dexter has said many times, kill the president has nothing to do with the president."


Linkage? It'd be appreciated. ;) I seriously doubt he's ever said that, at least that bluntly. How could it *not* be about the president? Or at least referring to him?

It's not a 100% serious literal song, sure, but it's not THAT vague or abstract. It's still referring to El Presidente'.

Llamas
02-16-2006, 05:42 AM
wow I seriously can't remember where I heard/read that... but I know I heard/read it from Dexter atleast twice. He stated that the song "isn't about kill the president. it's about taking your life into your own hands". I really wish I could remember where that was from, either time.. I'll try to search it...

Venom Symbiote
02-16-2006, 06:05 AM
He would have said that to be left alone by "Family First" parental right-wing groups and the like.

Obviously.

Llamas
02-16-2006, 06:06 AM
I think he said it long before the controversy, though. and it sounded powerful, not like a cop out.

bd007h
02-16-2006, 11:34 PM
wow I seriously can't remember where I heard/read that... but I know I heard/read it from Dexter atleast twice. He stated that the song "isn't about kill the president. it's about taking your life into your own hands". I really wish I could remember where that was from, either time.. I'll try to search it...


It's from a live mp3 of the song.

Llamas
02-17-2006, 12:28 AM
yeah, I think you're right... but I also heard it somewhere else. I think I read it somewhere in an interview.

jrk247
02-17-2006, 02:21 AM
I was always wondering why they don't put songs from The Offspring and Ignition on they compilations or something similar?I personally think that songs from those two albums are the best in their discography!
And that compilation I think it was against Bush or something, they put Beheaded, instead of the perfect match for that opportunity - Kill The President.
I would perhaps make a scandal, but isn't that what punk is!!!!!!
Let's make them the best fuckin band in the world!!!!
Um actually, Baghdad (which is a remake of Tehran) was on Rock against Bush vol.1. And Beheaded was on the Warped tour Compilation. Oh and Mission from God was on Punk-o-rama 10 (MFG was a song taken off of IGNITION). So I don't know what you're talking about when you say no songs from s/t or Ignition are on any compilations.

-=xanathos=-
02-17-2006, 03:44 AM
Still the songs from ignition and s/t arent too common. They should be proud of the albums right, so they can use the songs more, and not just hide 'em away as if they were never written. Baghdad was only used cause of the theme of the song, mission from god was a choise of epitaph and not entirely theirs, and beheaded was probably a choise of the makers of the WT organisers to put it on the compilation...

Llamas
02-17-2006, 03:47 AM
well if other people are choosing those, they probably are making the other decisions, too. What compilations are new songs on? I don't really know any... You're losing this, buddy ;) The Offspring doesn't hide away their old songs, and they don't put their new songs on compilations...

-=xanathos=-
02-17-2006, 04:12 AM
Still, they do have a greatest hits album without the older songs on it. I guess they took greatest "hits" seriously... ;)

Llamas
02-17-2006, 04:50 AM
right... none of their songs from before smash were hits. that's not ignorant. the point of a greatest hits is for the casual listener who only knows the singles to get a collection of their most popular songs without buying all the albums. There are a lot of artists that I've done this with (reo speedwagon, styx, ramones, cranberries, etc, etc). If they put a bunch of pre-smash songs on there that the casual listener didn't know, chances are they'd need to remove some hits and the casual listener wouldn't buy it. The greatest hits isn't made for the hardcore fan.

jrk247
02-17-2006, 12:00 PM
The greatest hits isn't made for the hardcore fan.
I totally agree with you. If you are a hardcore fan then most likely you would own all the albums and wouln't need the GH. The only reason I bought GH was for Cant Repeat, police cover, and the dual disk content.

BTW, people wondering why there aren't S/t or Ignition songs on GH, it is because they weren't released as singles, they weren't hits, and they were released by different record labels.

Tapnshred
02-17-2006, 12:22 PM
it is a shame really, I'd like to see them play more of the classics (Ignition, S/T era) live in the next tour

jrk247
02-17-2006, 12:32 PM
it is a shame really, I'd like to see them play more of the classics (Ignition, S/T era) live in the next tour
The reason they didn't play many of the old ones was because Atom didn't know the drumming. But They did play Session and I think Beheaded.

Llamas
02-17-2006, 03:15 PM
IMO, I don't think bands should live in the past. I know fans like to hear old stuff because they think it's better. But I went to see Collective Soul a couple years ago- it was on the tour for their Blender album. They played ONE SONG off of blender, and more than half the songs they played were off the first two albums. These guys had 5 albums out at that point. Very very disappointing! It's bad for a band to live in the past, and good for them to be happy about playing the new stuff they're doing! Imagine if you were in a famous band. Would you want to play the songs from your first two albums at all your shows for 19 years? Or would you want to be playing the stuff you just did, your latest work of art, and be proud of it? I think that'd be way more fun, personally.

ShitMaster
02-17-2006, 05:40 PM
No, man , noone said that they need to dedicate their live performance to their old songs, but they need to offer as much as they can, at least one or two songs from s/t and Ignition.And I also think that, if Ignition is published nowadays, it would be a BOOOOOM!Just my opinion! :D . And also, the quality of the songs is better on their first 2 albums (not in production way), and it sometimes seems that they are far more mature on those albums than on last two.
GH is only for money without a lot of effort, but who can blame them, we all gotta live. :)
Regarding Beheaded (I mean Baghdad), sorry, I didn't have time to check which song is on the compilation, so forgive me, but I knew that Kill the president is not the one.
Kill the president is better choice (My oppinon, they should put both songs, if it is possible), and isn't it obvious that that song is against the president: "Kill the president... ",and so on.I mean, read the lyrics.Dexter can say that that song is about life or whatever but the fact is that it's not.Lyrics are clear. If we're talking about for example "no brakes" then I would say:"Ok, song about life, or living fast, or whatever it is", but there is no abstraction.Kill the president is about life (hehehe) without idiotic leaders.End :D

offspring_freak_3
02-17-2006, 07:21 PM
I was always wondering why they don't put songs from The Offspring and Ignition on they compilations or something similar?I personally think that songs from those two albums are the best in their discography!
i'll just copy and paste what i have in my computer.

Title: Bored Generation
Label: Epitaph Records
Release Date: 08/07/1996
Tracklist:
1. MEDLEY: Don't Care/Live Fast, Die Young - Pennywise
2. Bad Habit - The Offspring
3. Hate You - Daredevils
4. That's When Ya Lost - Souls Of Mischief
5. Blast 'Em - Rancid
6. Wilma's Rainbow - Helmet
7. Nervous Assistant - Beastie Boys
8. Drugs Are Good - NoFx
9. That's How It Is, Part 2 - Casual
10. Hellbound 17 1/2 - PrimusSerletic

Title: Contains No Caffeine
Release Date: 1991
Tracklist:
52 Girls - The Offspring

Title: Deep Thoughts
Label: Nitro Records
Release Date: 07/28/1998
Tracklist:
1. Cafe 405 - The Vandals
2. A Single Second - AFI
3. 1,2,3...Slam - Guttermouth
4. Superficial Love - T.S.O.L.
5. Victims & Volunteers - Jughead's Revenge
6. Floorlord - One Hit Wonder
7. The Thing From Uranus - Sloppy Seconds
8. D.U.I - The Offspring
9. Self Pity - AFI
10. Chicken Box - Guttermouth (live)
11. And Now We Dance - The Vandals
12. Powertrip - One Hit Wonder
13. Pain - Jughead's Revenge
14. New Song - Guttermouth
15. If The Gov't Could Read My Mind - The Vandals
16. Kill The Trendy - Sloppy Seconds
17. You Don't Have To Die - T.S.O.L.
18. Love Is A Many Splendored Thing - AFI
19. Lipstick - Guttermouth
20. Tehran - The Offspring
21. But Then She Spoke - The Vandals
22. Perfect Fit - AFI

Title: Go Ahead Punk...Make My Day
Label: Nitro Records
Release Date: 09/24/1996
Tracklist:
1. God's Kingdom - Guttermouth
2. Marry Me - The Vandals
3. He Who Laughs Last - AFI
4. Tearing Down The World - Jughead's Revenge
5. Hey Joe - The Offspring
6. Let The Bad Times Roll - The Vandals
7. People's Pal - Jughead's Revenge
8. Derek - Guttermouth
9. Wake up Call - AFI
10. Beheaded - The Offspring

Title: SRH Presents: Lose Your Illusions 1
Label: Interscope Records
Release Date: 10/06/1998
Tracklist:
1. Coffin Text - Unwritten Law
2. Roll It Up - Kottonmouth Kings
3. Priscilla - Sprung Monkey
4. Shapely - Lucy's Fur Coat
5. Elders - The Offspring
6. Break It Up - Rocket From The Crypt
7. Fight Till You Die - Pennywise
8. Shut Up - The Upbeat
9. Sucka Mc
10. Poor Me Sob Story - Furious IV
11. Bakers Dozen - Guttermouth
12. Spies for Life - Youth Brigade
13. Sour - Limp Bizkit
14. Forget the World
15. Secret - Hepcat
16. B.M.T.P - Slightly Stoopid
17. Split - Buck-O-Nine
18. White Lightening - Wank

Title: Make The Collector Nerd Sweat
Label: Very Small Records
Release Date: 1990 (LP) / 1995 (CD)
Tracklist:
1. Psycho Girl - Mr. T Experience
2. Free Will - Crimpshrine
3. Dreams of Her - Crummy Musicians
4. Big Green Monsters - Lookouts
5. Optimator - Coffee & Donuts
6. Inspiration - The Wrong
7. Speed - Samiam
8. Gutless - Jawbreaker
9. Tehran - The Offspring
10. Freebird - Plaid Retina

Title: Music For Our Mother Ocean
Label: Interscope
Release Date: 08/26/1997
Tracklist:
1. Intro
2. Miserlou '97 - Dick Dale/Gary Hoey
3. I Get Around - Pennywise
4. Atta Girl - Sprung Monkey
5. V-12 Cadillac - Jewel
6. Ocean - The Mighty Mighty Bosstones/The Pietasters
7. Fly Juice - Brian Setzer Orchestra
8. Tonight - Porno For Pyros
9. Hydroponic - 311
10. Barflies At The Beach - Royal Crown Revue
11. Paddle Out - Sublime
12. The Other Side Of The World - Dishwalla
13. Acid - Toad The Wet Sprocket (previously unreleased)
14. Dirty Magic - The Offspring
15. Excuse Me Mr. People Lead - Ben Harper
16. Angels Of The Silences - Counting Crows
17. Trouble On The Horizon - Jimmy Buffett
18. Summer In Paradise - The Beach Boys (live, Wembley Arena)
19. The Blue Light Of The Underwater Sun - Moby
20. Ocean Warriors - Pato Banton
21. Giver Man - Donavon Frankenreiter/Sunchild
22. Closing

Title: PunkĎO Rama
Label: Epitaph Records
Release Date: 12/02/1994
Tracklist:
1. Do What You Want - Bad Religion
2. Don't Call Me White - NOFX
3. Hyena - Rancid
4. Session - The Offspring
5. Dying to Know - Pennywise
6. I Wanna Riot - Rancid
7. Riot City - Total Chaos
8. Crooked Bird - Gas Huffer
9. We're Back We're Pissed - RKL
10. Jennifer Lost The War - The Offspring
11. Bright Green Globe - Down by Law
12. Open Door - Pennywise
13. Crack In The Universe - Wayne Kramer
14. Liza & Louise - NOFX
15. My Wall - Ten Foot Pole
16. Reality Is A Ride On The Bus - SNFU


Title: Punkzilla
Label: Nitro Records
Release Date: 10/16/2001
Tracklist:
1. Dream Of Waking - AFI
2. Democracy? - The Damned
3. Not The Same - Bodyjar
4. Behind The Music - The Vandals
5. Still - Rufio
6. Jennifer Lost The War - The Offspring
7. Wasted - T.S.O.L.
8. You Know How It Is - Stavesacre
9. Black Clouds Vs. Silver Linings - Ensign
10. Hit Machine - Guttermouth
11. Wester - AFI
12. Misunderstanding Maybe - Divit
13. A Thousand Days - The Offspring
14. Why Are You Alive? - The Vandals
15. Lookin For Action - The Damned
16. Sold - T.S.O.L.
17. Birds And Bees - Original Sinners
18. Michael - Son Of Sam
19. Hypnotized - The Turbo AC's
20. The Days Of The Phoenix - AFI

Title: Rock Against Bush Vol. 1
Label: Fat Wreck Chords
Release Date: 4/20/2004
Tracklist:
01. Nothing To Do When Youíre Locked In A Vacancy - None More Black
02. Moron - Sum 41
03. Warbrain - Alkaline Trio
04. Need More Time - Epoxies
05. Rights Back" - Anti-Flag
06. Sink, Florida, Sink - Against Me!
07. Baghdad - The Offspring
08. Lion And The Lamb - The Get Up Kids
09. Give It All - Rise Against
10. No-W - Ministry
11. Sad State Of Affairs - Descendents
12. Revolution - Authority Zero
13. Paranoia Cha-Cha-Cha - The Soviettes
14. Thatís Progress - llo Biafra & D.O.A.
15. Overcome (The Recapitulation)RX Bandits
16. No Voice Of Mine -Strung Out
17. To The World - Strike Anywhere
18. Heaven Is Falling - The Ataris
19. God Save The USA - Pennywise
20. Normal Days - Denali
21. The Expatriate Act - World/Inferno Friendship Society
22. No News Is Good News - New Found Glory
23. Basket Of Snakes - The Frisk
24. Jaw, Knee, Music - NOFX
25. Itís The Law - Social Distortion
26. The Brightest Bulb Has Burned Out - Less Than Jake featuring Billy Bragg

Title: Short Music For Short People
Label: Fat Wreck Chords
Release Date: 10/01/1999
45. Hand Grenades - The Offspring

Title: The Big One
Release Date: 1991
Label: Flipside
Tracklist:
1. A Take Away - Big Drill Car
2. Bob Says No - Popdefect
3. Vision - Down By Law
4. Hey Old Lady and Bert's Song - Clawhammer
5. Take It Like A Man - The Offspring
6. Guilt - Hunger Farm
7. Jahr Null - Distorted Pony
8. I Need You - Blackbird
8. Hardball - Steel Pole Melvins Task Force
9. Mr. Fernando - Sharkbait
10. Hard - Helios Creed
11. Sinatra Mantra - Victim's Family
12. Despair Ends - Cringer
13. Wither - Monsula
14. Fill In The Blank - Mr. T Experience
15. I Want To Be Alone - Green Day

Title: The Thought Remains The Same
Label: Nitro Records
Release Date: 07/28/1998
Tracklist:
1. Cafe 405 - The Vandals
2. A Single Second - AFI
3. 1,2,3...Slam - Guttermouth
4. Superficial Love - T.S.O.L.
5. Victims & Volunteers - Jughead's Revenge
6. Floorlord - One Hit Wonders
7. The Thing From Uranus - Sloppy Seconds
8. D.U.I - The Offspring
9. Self Pity - AFI
10. Chicken Box - Guttermouth (live)
11. And Now We Dance - The Vandals
12. Powertrip - One Hit Wonder
13. Pain - Jughead's Revenge
14. This Won't Hurt A Bit - Guttermouth
15. If The Gov't Could Read My Mind - Cafe 405
16. Let's Kill The Trendy - Sloppy Seconds
17. You Don't Have To Die - T.S.O.L.
18. Love Is A Many Splendored Thing - AFI
19. Lipstick - Guttermouth
20. Tehran - The Offspring
21.But Then She Spoke - The Vandals
22. Perfect Fit

Title: We Got Power: Party Or Go Home
Label: Mystic Records
Release Date: 1984
Tracklist:
01. Ill Repute - Party Animal
02. Don't No - Time
03. Stukas Over Bedrock - Car God
04. Incest Cattle - Lung Cheese
05. Scared Straight - School
06. Hated Principles - Cops From Hell
07. Juvenile Behavior - Your Toy
08. Mox Nix - No Lies
09. Manic Subsidal - Hopeless
10. Sado-Nation - Front Row Chaos
11. VOA - Popularity
12. 2nd Thoughts - Skate For Fun
13. AFU - My Scene
14.Habeas Corpus - Last Dream
15. NOS - Without You
16. Critical Attitude - Ventalation
17. Crankshaft - Crankrock
18. No Fix - Ant Attack
19. Penis Brigade - Penis Youth
20. New Regime - Be A Man, Go To War
21. Fatal Error - No Clone
22. America's Hardcore - A.H.C.
23. Justice League - Attitude
24. Sacred Cows - Wasteland
25. The O.D.'s - Feel The Power
26. The Micronotz - Born To Kick Ass
27. The Shemps - Achtung Hoosier
28. Sluggo - What Happens Next
29. No Control - How Do You Want To Die
30. The Holly - Planet Hell
31. ASH - We Got Power
32. White Wreckage - Beaten To The Ground
33. Serure - Jackie
34. Subterfuge - Mercury
35. Half Life - Yeah I Hate
36. ONS - Girls, Girls, Girls
37. Cancerous Growth - Corporation Vegetable
38. Seismic Waves - Irs
39. Caustic Cause - Our Back Yard
40. The GRIM - Suicide
41. Swa - 100 Bottles Of Beer

offspring_freak_3
02-17-2006, 07:21 PM
Title: A Tribute To Ramones: We're A Happy Family
Label: Columbia Records
Release Date: 02/11/2003
Tracklist:
1. Havana Affair - Red Hot Chili Peppers
2. Blitzkrieg Bop - Rob Zombie
3. I Believe In Miracles - Eddie Vedder with Zeke
4. 53rd & 3rd - Metallica
5. Beat On The Brat - U2
6. Do You Remember Rock 'N' Roll Radio - Kiss
7. The KKK Took My Baby Away - Marilyn Manson
8. I Just Wanna Have Something To Do
9. Outsider - Green Day
10. Something To Believe In - The Pretenders
11. Sheena Is A Punk Rocker - Rancid
12. I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend - Pete Yorn
13. I Wanna Be Sedated - The Offspring
14. Here Today, Gone Tomorrow - Rooney
15. Return of Jackie & Judy - Tom Waits
16. Daytime Dilemma (Dangers Of Love) - Eddie Vedder with Zeke
17. Today Your Love, Tomorrow The World - John Frusciante


Title: Woodstock 1999
Label: Sony
Release Date: 10/19/1999
Tracklist:
DISC 1: RED ALBUM:
1. Blind - Korn
2. Kids Aren't Alright - The Offspring
3. Four - Lit
4. Lit Up - Buckcherry
5. Bawitdaba - Kid Rock
6. Show Me What You Got - Limp Bizkit
7. Bulls On Parade - Rage Against The Machine
8. Creeping Death - Metallica
9. Roadhouse Blues - Creed
10. Bitch - Sevendust
11. Stop Being Greedy - DMX
12. Keep Away - Godsmack
13. A Secret Place - Megadeth
14. Everything Zen - Bush
15. I Alone - Live
16. Interlude
17. Fire - Red Hot Chili Peppers

Title: Punk-O-Rama 10
Label: Epitaph
Release Date:00/00/2005
Tracklist:
Disc 1 - CD

1.When "You're" Around - Motion City Soundtrack
2.Lovers & Liars - Matchbook Romance
3.Shoot Me in the Smile -Matches
4.Failure By Designer Jeans - From First To Last
5.Sun vs. Moon - Francis, Sage
6.News from the Front - Bad Religion
7.Mixin' Up Adjectives - This Is Me Smiling
8.Shadowland - Youth Group
9.From the Tops of Trees - Scatter The Ashes
10.I Need Drugs - Some Girls
11.Mince Meat - Dangerdoom
12.Mission from God - The Offspring
13.Black Cloud - Converge
14.Last Goodbyes - Hot Water Music
15.Anchors Aweigh [Live] - Bouncing Souls
16.Farewell My Hell - Millencolin
17.The Warrior's Code - Dropkick Murphys
18.Dead Weight Falls - Unseen
19.White Knuckle Ride - Rancid
20.Falling Down - Pennywise
21.No Fun in Fundamentalism - Nofx
22.Bloodstain - Pulley
23.Not the Way - Special Goodness
24.Ghostfire - Tiger Army
25.Riot, Riot, Riot - Miret, Roger / Miret, Roger
26.Laugh/Love/F*** - Coup

thats all

That_Guy91
02-17-2006, 07:40 PM
Um actually, Baghdad (which is a remake of Tehran) was on Rock against Bush vol.1. And Beheaded was on the Warped tour Compilation. Oh and Mission from God was on Punk-o-rama 10 (MFG was a song taken off of IGNITION). So I don't know what you're talking about when you say no songs from s/t or Ignition are on any compilations.
Just want to mention that Baghdad isn't a remake, it was before Tehran. And using Mission Form God was Epitaph's choice, since they own the rights to Ignition.

Venom Symbiote
02-17-2006, 10:53 PM
I already explained this on the first page, people. They don't "ignore" their old songs - Columbia doesn't want them to play them live. I doubt they can be legally stopped from playing them, but if they did it would seriously damage their relationship with the record label.

No biggie.

And I thought "Tehran" was the original song, That Guy. Seeing as the Tehran military involvement happened before the Gulf War, in the late '80s. Wasn't it originally written as "Tehran", then when the U.S. went into Iraq in '90/'91 they re-released it as a single with the name "Baghdad?"


QUOTE:
"The reason they didn't play many of the old ones was because Atom didn't know the drumming. But They did play Session and I think Beheaded."

:rolleyes: Before Atom even joined the band, they still didn't play Self-Titled of Ignition material after they left Epitah. I'm sure they did on a few select occasions, rare occasions at that, but in general they didn't include them on the setlist even WHEN RON WAS THERE.


QUOTE:
"I think he said it long before the controversy, though. and it sounded powerful, not like a cop out."

What "controversy"? What are you referring to?

neocon58
02-17-2006, 11:05 PM
The reason they didn't play many of the old ones was because Atom didn't know the drumming. But They did play Session and I think Beheaded.

That's a load of crap. Your saying Atom knew all the songs they played on the Splinter tour but not the first two albums? They do this thing called rehearsal, you see. It's not a case of Atom didn't know the songs, it's a case of The Offspring as a band didn't want to play the songs that much, because not all the crowd know them, label situation etc, as Venom whatsisname said.

and off the top of my head, Atom has played Session, Elders and several others.

jrk247
02-17-2006, 11:42 PM
That's a load of crap. Your saying Atom knew all the songs they played on the Splinter tour but not the first two albums? They do this thing called rehearsal, you see. It's not a case of Atom didn't know the songs, it's a case of The Offspring as a band didn't want to play the songs that much, because not all the crowd know them, label situation etc, as Venom whatsisname said.

and off the top of my head, Atom has played Session, Elders and several others.
I know he's played some old ones I know of Session for sure because I've seen the video from Warped tour. But I think it was Dexter or some one else from the band that said they don't play too many old songs because Atom hasn't played them on the drums (maybe because he hasn't had spare time to, because he is working on other band projects and has a personal life, so know your facts before you claim you know what you're talking about). You realize Atom hasn't been with the band that long. And they mostly play new songs on their tours. BTW, people that go to their tours either know them as a band or they don't, so I would think they know the old songs and if they don't even know the band what does it matter.

jrk247
02-17-2006, 11:50 PM
Why they never mention songs from first 2 albums/put them on their compilations?

^main point to thread.

They do mention songs from first 2 albums (they don't as much because they might not have been the greatest back then, some bands like to move on and improve their music). And there are more old songs on compilations then new (mainly because the Compilations are either produced by Epitaph or Fat Wreck Chords and mainly punk compilations and the old offspring sounds more punk then the new).

noodle654
02-18-2006, 12:09 PM
personaly I think that they should leave Columbia, and go onto their own label, Nitro. Or something else cause all this legal bs is pissing me off

killer_queen
02-18-2006, 12:28 PM
personaly I think that they should leave Columbia, and go onto their own label, Nitro. Or something else cause all this legal bs is pissing me off
Ah, you're so punx & you make me wet.

noodle654
02-18-2006, 01:08 PM
im not kidding, if they were on their own label, that would kick major ass. And are you being sarcastic?

jacknife737
02-18-2006, 01:24 PM
Session can be found on a PUNKORAMA disk, and i think Beheaded was on the latest Warped Tour Comp.

noodle654
02-18-2006, 01:27 PM
hahaha 69 posts!! congrats ^^

ShitMaster
02-19-2006, 04:26 PM
Regarding Columbia, I think that they have a contract for six albums, and after that... Maybe "Best of" was another step to a way out.One more to go.
If I'm not mistaken. :)

noodle654
02-19-2006, 08:31 PM
Regarding Columbia, I think that they have a contract for six albums, and after that... Maybe "Best of" was another step to a way out.One more to go.
If I'm not mistaken. :)

can anybody confirm the 6 albums?

Llamas
02-19-2006, 10:21 PM
well, most major label contracts are for 3, 4, or 6. 6 is usually what is used when a band make a HUGE breakthrough on an underground label- the big label sees that band as gonna do really damn well, so they say 6 albums to milk their success. 3 is usually used with a band that is giving it's first release altogether... and i've never heard of a contract that was more than 6.

ShitMaster
02-20-2006, 07:42 PM
I think I've read in one of the interviews, I think that is called "why did they left epitaph" if I remember correctly.In any case, I know that number is 6!