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TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 04:45 PM
There you go Ash, I'm no longer spamming.

Paint_It_Black
02-26-2006, 04:46 PM
I agree .

Rag Doll
02-26-2006, 04:47 PM
I agree as well.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:47 PM
Very well done.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:47 PM
I agree as well.
Lose the Glasses and a few pounds.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 04:47 PM
See Ash, not just my opinion.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 04:47 PM
Lose the Glasses and a few pounds.

Lose the ugly chick.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:48 PM
See Ash, not just my opinion.
I really do not care about other peoples opinions, my opinion is the only one I care about.

Paint_It_Black
02-26-2006, 04:49 PM
Then why did you post the pic of the fugly chick? If only your opinion counts, why show us?

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:50 PM
Lose the ugly chick.
You seriously shouldn't be calling other people ugly, go get some clerasil and a haircut.

Not Ozymandias
02-26-2006, 04:50 PM
Your old bitch was better looking. You traded down.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:51 PM
Then why did you post the pic of the fugly chick? If only your opinion counts, why show us?
I posted a photo of her and myself seeing as I havn't posted a photo in ages.

Paint_It_Black
02-26-2006, 04:51 PM
You seriously shouldn't be calling other people ugly, go get some clerical and a haircut.

How the fuck can he get some "clerical"?

I love it when retards accidentally make real words.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 04:51 PM
You seriously shouldn't be calling other people ugly, go get some clerical and a haircut.

Your girlfriend's fugly.

Paint_It_Black
02-26-2006, 04:52 PM
I posted a photo of her and myself seeing as I havn't posted a photo in ages.

That doesn't answer the question. If our opinions don't count, why show us. In fact, why post?

Andy
02-26-2006, 04:53 PM
Kids, play nice. This isn't very neighbourly.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:53 PM
Kids, play nice. This isn't very neighbourly.
you coming on MSN?

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 04:54 PM
you coming on MSN?

Nice dodge.

By the way, would you still say "your opinion and I don't care" if I said your girlfriend was hot?

Paint_It_Black
02-26-2006, 04:54 PM
Kids, play nice. This isn't very neighbourly.

He started on rag doll for no reason. I consider it open season now.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:55 PM
How the fuck can he get some "clerical"?

I love it when retards accidentally make real words.
I meant to say "Clearasil", but I don't need it so I'm hardly going to know the spelling for it.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:56 PM
Nice dodge.

By the way, would you still say "your opinion and I don't care" if I said your girlfriend was hot?
Yep


(10)

Iddy
02-26-2006, 04:56 PM
He started on rag doll for no reason. I consider it open season now.

That was un-called for


but i don't think his girl's ugly....

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 04:57 PM
I meant to say "Clearasil", but I don't need it so I'm hardly going to know the spelling for it.

What you need is a new girlfriend.


Yep


(10)

Buuuuullshit.

Paint_It_Black
02-26-2006, 04:57 PM
I meant to say "Clearasil", but I don't need it so I'm hardly going to know the spelling for it.

You only know how to spell things that you need?

Not Ozymandias
02-26-2006, 04:58 PM
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/527/hattieash7sy.jpg

It looks like you were both beaten with an ugly stick. Especially her.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 04:58 PM
What you need is a new girlfriend.



Buuuuullshit.
As I said, you are not one to call others ugly, and no it's not bullshit. I don't have time for idiots like you anymore.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 04:58 PM
Ash, why do you think making fun of my acne will hurt me in any way? I know I have it. If I really cared about it, would I post pictures of myself on here or anywhere else, without even Photoshopping them?

Nein, I would not.

And as for making fun of long hair.. jees man, I grew the damn thing.

You're an idiot.

Andy
02-26-2006, 05:00 PM
you coming on MSN?
Nah I can't mate, it's currently on it's period and not working.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 05:01 PM
Nah I can't mate, it's currently on it's period and not working.
I hate periods ;)

EDIT: Quizmania was weird lastnight

Not Ozymandias
02-26-2006, 05:01 PM
Nah I can't mate, it's currently on it's period and not working.
He's lying, he just doesn't want to talk to someone who's into ugly chicks. It's understandable, really.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-26-2006, 05:02 PM
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/527/hattieash7sy.jpg

It looks like you were both beaten with an ugly stick. Especially her.
Post up a photo why don't you?

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 05:03 PM
Thought you didn't care what people thought? Surely a comparison is caring too much.

And what happened to not having time for idiots like us? Shouldn't you be out doing something far more productive?

Go on, log out, and never post in this thread again. I dare you.

Not Ozymandias
02-26-2006, 05:03 PM
No thanks, I'd rather mock your girlfriend's ugly face. I'm funny like that.

H1T_That
02-26-2006, 05:03 PM
Post up a photo why don't you?

rather unrelated, but why have you changed the name in your sig to vin diesel from chuck norris?

Andy
02-26-2006, 05:04 PM
EDIT: Quizmania was weird lastnight
Yeah, it was a Wedding special. I think Debbie is getting worse the hotter she gets.

arak0r
02-26-2006, 07:03 PM
downgrade


(need a thumbs down emoticon gdi)

That_Guy91
02-26-2006, 07:11 PM
*Skips entire thread*


You seriously shouldn't be calling other people ugly, go get some clerasil and a haircut.
Oh, come on! Even i'd do him!

All About Eve
02-26-2006, 07:13 PM
How much did she pay you, Ash?

Sunny
02-26-2006, 07:54 PM
dave speaks the truth.

Paint_It_Black
02-26-2006, 07:58 PM
Anyone think that_guy looks a bit like Jesse?

All About Eve
02-26-2006, 07:59 PM
Not really, Jesse has that minifro happening.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 08:04 PM
I dunno, haven't seen a pic.

That_Guy91
02-26-2006, 08:09 PM
You all finally made the connection. He's my brother.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 08:10 PM
Haha, that'd be so cool.

That_Guy91
02-26-2006, 08:11 PM
Haha, that'd be so cool.
What? It's true, you want a pic with both of us to prove it?

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-26-2006, 08:12 PM
Yeah, go on then.

All About Eve
02-26-2006, 08:12 PM
Are you for srs?

That_Guy91
02-26-2006, 08:20 PM
Proof @ photo album. He'll also be online later to confirm.

T-6005
02-26-2006, 08:23 PM
I like when threads do this.

the_GoDdEsS
02-26-2006, 09:31 PM
I approve of this.

Tizzalicious
02-26-2006, 10:44 PM
If she was a member here who everyone liked everyone would say she was cute. I think Kim is prettier too, but the new one isn't UGLY.

Nina
02-27-2006, 12:13 AM
I agree. I mean, wtf this girl isnt ugly. Just not the most beautiful person to face this planet. This whole BBS finds uglier people pretty, and I dont really get THAT.
But yeah, the mocking makes sense nontheless, cause he's the biggest idiot on this board.

Paint_It_Black
02-27-2006, 01:04 AM
But yeah, the mocking makes sense nontheless, cause he's the biggest idiot on this board.

And that, my dear, is what it was all about.

Nina
02-27-2006, 04:09 AM
No, I mean: Mocking him in general I have nothing against, but picking on a poor girl who isnt even on the board, who probably doesnt even know that her picture has been posted on the net is just kinda low.
However, if you ask me you can all make fun of his fugly mug, because 1) it IS fugly and 2) he calls everyone else ugly too and 3) HE DOESNT CARE BECAUSE HE'S HARDCORE TO THE MAXXX.

Paint_It_Black
02-27-2006, 04:14 AM
Yeah, but chances are she'll never see this anyway. Besides, I really do think she's ugly.

the_GoDdEsS
02-27-2006, 04:16 AM
Besides, I really do think she's ugly.

Me too, absolutely honestly. Totally unpleasant to look at.

Nina
02-27-2006, 04:16 AM
You're all pretty mean :(

the_GoDdEsS
02-27-2006, 04:17 AM
That was just honest.

Paint_It_Black
02-27-2006, 04:19 AM
You're all pretty

Thank you.

Nina
02-27-2006, 04:19 AM
No, it is quite low.
Nobody asked for your opinions. It's not like this girl is arrogant and thinks she's super hot. She just happens to be on the pic. She didnt do any harm to anyone, unlike TOM who kills braincells everytime someone reads his posts.
There's a HUGE difference between honesty and being plain rude and mean.

Paint_It_Black
02-27-2006, 04:20 AM
Posting a pic on a public forum IS asking for opinions.

Nina
02-27-2006, 04:21 AM
As far as I know, SHE didnt post it.

the_GoDdEsS
02-27-2006, 04:23 AM
So I can only call those people ugly who did something bad to me? Like Linda calls me ugly because I am mean to her?

This does not make sense.

Paint_It_Black
02-27-2006, 04:24 AM
As far as I know, SHE didnt post it.

True, but it's his responsibility to gain consent. Not ours.

Sin Studly
02-27-2006, 05:05 AM
Holy fuck, now I've seen it. Yes, TOM downgraded.

And Nina, quit being retarded. Ugly is ugly, personality is a whole other thing and has nothing do with anything. Calling people ugly because you don't like them, regardless of their looks, is a Lindaism. And that dog on TOM's arm looks like she's been chasing parked cars.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 11:30 AM
We're not talking about Megs. We're talking about Kim. But he traded down either way.

Sin Studly
02-27-2006, 11:39 AM
Seriously, that bitch looks like a steamroller done ran over her face.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 11:42 AM
stfu. you'd have said it even if Ash's new gf was marilyn monroe. you have no notion of where to draw the line as far as horsehit on a platter is concerned.

ash's gf is more than okay, surely you're no model yourself & kim is downright... puke-inducive.

Not true, the pictures Kim's posted since Ash dumped her have been very good.

And she can look hot without taking her clothes off! Shocking, no?

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 11:44 AM
was that dig directed at me?

No, of course not.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 11:46 AM
Way to put words in my mouth.

Sin Studly
02-27-2006, 11:48 AM
stfu. you'd have said it even if Ash's new gf was marilyn monroe.

I've been known to admit people I dislike are hot. I haven't done this in your case because you're ugly, Maria. You're just ugly.


you have no notion of where to draw the line as far as horsehit on a platter is concerned.

You're ugly, Maria.


ash's gf is more than okay

She's ugly, Maria.


surely you're no model yourself

I'm obviosly not the model type, but I'm still gorgeous, Maria. And oozing with raw sex appeal.


& kim is downright... puke-inducive.

Yes, she's ugly. But she's a lot better looking than his new cunt, and a lot better looking than you. You're ugly, Maria. You're just ugly.

Lithuanian Offspring
02-27-2006, 11:52 AM
I've been known to admit people I dislike are hot. I haven't done this in your case because you're ugly, Maria. You're just ugly.



You're ugly, Maria.



She's ugly, Maria.



I'm obviosly not the model type, but I'm still gorgeous, Maria. And oozing with raw sex appeal.



Yes, she's ugly. But she's a lot better looking than his new cunt, and a lot better looking than you. You're ugly, Maria. You're just ugly.
Have you ever listened to the Misfits' "Speak of the Devil". I think that song is about you.
Honestly, although I completely disagree with you, I thought that post was one of the more amusing things I've read.

Lithuanian Offspring
02-27-2006, 11:57 AM
I know Sin is sexy. I have this rather old picture of him. I know it's not nearly as good as you look now but it's good, Sin:
Sin Studly (http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/images/arnold_schwarzenegger_naked.jpg)

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 12:01 PM
kim looks overdone. first glance at her labels her as a "try mighty hard & still you'll be a loser" girl.

she has ugly features, an ugly shape of just about everything, a proeminent belly that sags on her baggies...

the list goes on.

I'm so ugly:

- a pianist is doing a concert just for me

- I received a bouquet before my door this morning

- I did modelling as side-line when I had the time

apart from these social-recognition things, I'm beautiful because I was born that way.

you're labelled as "cut his teeth trying to spite Maria"

don't even talk to me you meek idiot.

Trying too hard much? Those content in their looks are just content. They don't need to PROVE it.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 12:03 PM
Every photo you posted. Every dozens and dozens of photos you posted.

Trying too haard.

Little_Miss_1565
02-27-2006, 12:27 PM
kim looks overdone. first glance at her labels her as a "try mighty hard & still you'll be a loser" girl.

she has ugly features, an ugly shape of just about everything, a proeminent belly that sags on her baggies...

Stop pretending to be Maria, TOM.

Sin Studly
02-27-2006, 12:48 PM
Whether it's TOM or Maria, we can agree that the poster is ugly. Just fucking ugly.

the_offsprings_monkey
02-27-2006, 12:55 PM
Stop pretending to be Maria, TOM.
Actually, I'm not, you may ask her yourself if you must.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 12:57 PM
How strange that she goes offline and TOM suddenly comes on.

Nina
02-27-2006, 01:54 PM
God, not THIS stupid fucking discussion again. Maria, fucking DROP it. Your opinions about people who are/arent attractive is meaningless. It's not like I dont partly agree with what you say, but who gives a fuck, all you say is simply bullshit.

And the_goddess, calling someone ugly just -because-, without anyone asking for it, without helping anyone with it, *is* quite low. My opinion stands, so whatev.

Sin Studly
02-27-2006, 02:03 PM
Your opinion might stand, but that doesn't neccessarily mean its not stupid and wrong.

PS ; It's stupid and wrong.

Nina
02-27-2006, 02:13 PM
Nah. wrong by no means, and stupid is relative.

the_GoDdEsS
02-27-2006, 02:15 PM
You're relating it to personality too much.

Sin Studly
02-27-2006, 02:15 PM
It's wrong, it's stupid. End of story.

If you don't approve of the thread, you have every right to stay out of it.

Nina
02-27-2006, 02:18 PM
Uh, who said any of this bothers me? I dont mind talking about it, therefore I dont need to "stay out of" the thread, either.
And I am not talking about personality at all. If I did I'd say "omg she's SUCH a great person, stfu!". But just randomly calling every third person ugly is kinda, well, unnecessary and dumb. And that's exactly what you two do. To be honest, if you said it less often one could actually believe you. Arent you blaming me for the same thing, just about the opposite case (complimenting people all the time)? So, how come you dont at least behave better than me (and dont ever believe that I agree with you, FOOH).

neocon58
02-27-2006, 02:23 PM
picking on a poor girl who isnt even on the board, who probably doesnt even know that her picture has been posted on the net is just kinda low.

.....


I'm over it.

What a horse.

Nina
02-27-2006, 02:28 PM
HAHAHAHA. Stop making me laugh when I want to be serious.
I still dont see why she looks so bad/like a horse/similar.

All About Eve
02-27-2006, 02:28 PM
Uh, who said any of this bothers me? I dont mind talking about it, therefore I dont need to "stay out of" the thread, either.
And I am not talking about personality at all. If I did I'd say "omg she's SUCH a great person, stfu!". But just randomly calling every third person ugly is kinda, well, unnecessary and dumb. And that's exactly what you two do. To be honest, if you said it less often one could actually believe you. Arent you blaming me for the same thing, just about the opposite case (complimenting people all the time)? So, how come you dont at least behave better than me (and dont ever believe that I agree with you, FOOH).

I agree with what you're saying, I just think you may reading this a bit wrong. All that happened was that a few people pointed out that they thought Kim was more attractive and that the new girl was ugly and that he 'traded down.' TOM first argued back, then got onto Dave about spamming or something in the photoalbum for arguing, which spawned the thread. It really isn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be. Atleast it wasn't.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 02:30 PM
The fact that she's not good looking isn't the issue. For me what the issue is, is that Ash dumped Kym for this apparent Wonderwoman, and it turns out to be her.

It's uncalled for for Ash to constantly go on about Kym, but he does it. So he deserves everything he gets.

All About Eve
02-27-2006, 02:32 PM
I agree as well.
Lose the Glasses and a few pounds.

*points finger* He started it.

Nirushika6789
02-27-2006, 02:32 PM
I don't think TOM's new girlfriend is 'hideously ugly'...she isn't cute etc but she isn't as ugly as some people are saying...

Kim was ok too...she wasn't beautiful either...but she was a bit nicer than his new gf

so yes, he traded down to a certain extent.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 03:32 PM
This is the TOM that doesn't care about people's opinions:


Hey, I'm up in B'ham soon, why not fight me? Seeing as you can give it alll that over the internet.

neocon58
02-27-2006, 03:36 PM
This is the TOM that doesn't care about people's opinions:

It certainly looks like he dosen't care, wanting to fight you and all.

Whatta homos.

Paint_It_Black
02-27-2006, 03:59 PM
Oh this is priceless. He challenged you to a duel Dave! What are you gonna do? The gauntlets are off!

0r4ng3
02-27-2006, 04:45 PM
I had to read that a couple of times, but I came to a simple conclusion:

What the fuck?

In all seriousness, who are you reffering to when you say "puny puling chicken"?

nieh
02-27-2006, 04:51 PM
Oh this is priceless. He challenged you to a duel Dave! What are you gonna do? The gauntlets are off!

I wish I lived in England. The closest things we get to duels around here are when someone tries returning fire during a drive-by. *ghetto*

platinumpt
02-27-2006, 06:17 PM
(...) What a horse.
If I were a horse, I'd feel offended by that post.

TheUnholyNightbringer
02-27-2006, 06:31 PM
Puny puling chicken says no to a duel. Puny puling chicken wouldn't like to sport a black eye, for the ladies, you know. Puny puling chicken prefers posing with enamel & a piercing & an affected dreamy-lost look rather than be a man who stands true to what he says & is ready to defend himself. Puny puling chicken is a moaning puss, indeed.

Aw, did Ash request his cheerleader?

Paint_It_Black
02-27-2006, 08:41 PM
I wish I lived in England. The closest things we get to duels around here are when someone tries returning fire during a drive-by. *ghetto*

I didn't know you lived in Paptown.

nieh
02-27-2006, 08:44 PM
I heard a gunshot once! It might have been a car backfiring though.

Just a Girl
02-28-2006, 04:18 PM
looks wise, i agree he traded down.

ruroken
02-28-2006, 09:38 PM
I heard a gunshot once! It might have been a car backfiring though.
DUDE I saw this guy get shot once!!




...on TV...

Fight him, DAVE!! KILL HIMM!!! GO TETSUO SHIMA ON HIS ASS!!! Wait...you have those powers, right?

T-6005
02-28-2006, 09:40 PM
Fight him, DAVE!! KILL HIMM!!! GO TETSUO SHIMA ON HIS ASS!!! Wait...you have those powers, right?
Well... I think I saw Dave dress up as a ninja once. Does that count?

ruroken
02-28-2006, 09:42 PM
Nah. He has to wrap that Commie flag around his neck and wear it as a cape. THEN he's Tetsuo Shima :cool:

PS @ Dave; Would you please do that? I'd love to see that. That'd be awesome.

JoY
03-01-2006, 06:52 AM
Kim was too pretty for you, anyway.

*Edit; wiped away something seriously gross.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-01-2006, 08:10 AM
PS @ Dave; Would you please do that? I'd love to see that. That'd be awesome.

Heh, I might later today.

ruroken
03-01-2006, 08:40 AM
I <3 Dave

JohnnyNemesis
03-02-2006, 07:27 PM
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/527/hattieash7sy.jpg


Oh holy god, what the fuck is that thing next to Ash? Put it away!

It looks like someone thought they could make a human by hitting a cow with the ugly stick a few more times. Goddamn.

Okay, now I go back to not posting.

JohnnyNemesis
03-02-2006, 07:33 PM
If she was a member here who everyone liked everyone would say she was cute.

Nope. I VEHEMENTLY disagree.

What would happen in that case is that people would IGNORE her pics. It's what most people did with my pics for awhile (though not anymore) when they knew that they liked me and didn't want to hurt my feelings. It's what always happens with various people, and what most of the time still does happen with lotsa folks.

Well, a sculpture of feces could post a few pics and Nirushika would still say "Nice pics!", but that's a different story.

All About Eve
03-02-2006, 07:37 PM
...Everyone ignores mine. Not a good sign, I'm guessing?

Paint_It_Black
03-02-2006, 07:39 PM
Okay, now I go back to not posting.

Except for that other post. You know, the one directly after it.

Why aren't you posting much anymore? You're a fixture of this place, you're not allowed to have a life.

Oh, and I kinda agree with Tizz.

Andy
03-02-2006, 07:42 PM
...Everyone ignores mine. Not a good sign, I'm guessing?
Nah, they ignore me as well. Oh hang on. Oh.

Oh.


Oh, and I kinda agree with Tizz.
Sadly, I agree as well.

JohnnyNemesis
03-02-2006, 07:43 PM
Except for that other post. You know, the one directly after it.

Why aren't you posting much anymore? You're a fixture of this place, you're not allowed to have a life.

Oh, and I kinda agree with Tizz.

The problem with what Tizz and Nina's comments are that they're treating looks/beauty like some sort of objective fact (notice, ladies, that I didn't say that you THINK that it's an objective fact, just that you're treating it as one in this case; big difference).

They say that some people are calling ugly people hot, but I've just seen too much evidence to the contrary. PLENTY of people are called ugly in the Photo Album thread, and plenty of less attractive people have their pics ignored (I again use myself as an example). The whole thing makes it seem like if THEY think that someone is just calling someone hot for the hell of it, then it's automatically true, which is obviously problematic.

And yeah, I noticed I posted right after, and might post a few other places as well. I'll probably post regularly soon enough, but I dunno when. I've just hit a particular busy stretch of life: lotsa fancy schmancy conferences, two new jobs (I have three part time jobs now), full time university work, etc.

Paint_It_Black
03-02-2006, 07:51 PM
lotsa fancy schmancy conferences, two new jobs (I have three part time jobs now), full time university work, etc.

Good luck with all that. Just stop in from time to time, it's all we ask.

I see at least some people I consider to be very unattractive get showered with praise regularly. But I don't spend much time browsing the photo album, so I can't state anything as a fact.

I'm not sure why you are using yourself as an example. I thought you get a shitload of positive comments when you post pics.

JohnnyNemesis
03-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Good luck with all that. Just stop in from time to time, it's all we ask.

I see at least some people I consider to be very unattractive get showered with praise regularly. But I don't spend much time browsing the photo album, so I can't state anything as a fact.

I'm not sure why you are using yourself as an example. I thought you get a shitload of positive comments when you post pics.

Thanks for the well-wishing; I really appeciate it!

I'm using myself as an example cause that's how it USED to be for me. Not so much anymore in my case, though....so I guess I've seen both sides of the issue or something.

Paint_It_Black
03-02-2006, 07:58 PM
Maybe with you people used to ignore your pics because they weren't sure who you were yet? I ignore pictures of members I don't notice, even if they are incredibly hot or incredibly not. If their personality doesn't interest me then their looks don't either.

JohnnyNemesis
03-02-2006, 08:12 PM
Nah, I was already established by then.

Betty
03-02-2006, 09:56 PM
The point is: People are assholes.

Guaranteed I could post numerous pictures of me that look much uglier than that.

Tizzalicious
03-02-2006, 11:44 PM
The problem with what Tizz and Nina's comments are that they're treating looks/beauty like some sort of objective fact (notice, ladies, that I didn't say that you THINK that it's an objective fact, just that you're treating it as one in this case; big difference).

They say that some people are calling ugly people hot, but I've just seen too much evidence to the contrary. PLENTY of people are called ugly in the Photo Album thread, and plenty of less attractive people have their pics ignored (I again use myself as an example). The whole thing makes it seem like if THEY think that someone is just calling someone hot for the hell of it, then it's automatically true, which is obviously problematic.



I don't know exactly what you mean.

I just think this girl wasn't all that ugly, but just a not very flattering picture, and also that if someone else looked like that, a lot of people wouldn't be complaining, and do now because she is Ash's girlfriend. I know it's not an objective fact, and that people have different tastes and all, I just think that in this case a lot of people call her ugly just to piss Ash off.

Nina
03-03-2006, 12:27 AM
Rick, you are completely right about ME, though. I treat beauty as something objective. I have strong beliefs when it comes to this and I dont want to annoy anyone with it so I wont get into that now, but yeah, just wanting to say that at least with me you are right.

reader
03-03-2006, 01:37 AM
Beauty has an inter-subjective definition.

JoY
03-04-2006, 07:32 AM
The problem with what Tizz and Nina's comments are that they're treating looks/beauty like some sort of objective fact (notice, ladies, that I didn't say that you THINK that it's an objective fact, just that you're treating it as one in this case; big difference).

They say that some people are calling ugly people hot, but I've just seen too much evidence to the contrary. PLENTY of people are called ugly in the Photo Album thread, and plenty of less attractive people have their pics ignored (I again use myself as an example). The whole thing makes it seem like if THEY think that someone is just calling someone hot for the hell of it, then it's automatically true, which is obviously problematic.

yupyupyupyupyup.

I don't particularly browse the board to agree with Rick & kiss his butt, but it's the satisfaction of agreeing with him, when I actually do, that makes me do it.

so yeah, I agree with Rick.
honestly, when I see someone I find ugly, it depends on their attitude & how much I like them, how I will react. if I find someone I appreciate ugly, he/she WILL be ignored when it comes to looks. or one can always comment on the fabulous socks they've digged up at the H&M. if I find someone not only ugly, but about as annoying as Anton, then he/she WILL know it. this also goes in real life.

as an example; Anton isn't exactly uberhandsome, but he's alright looking. except for his hairdo, which I just CAN'T fucking tolerate. when he asked me what I thought about his hair, I just said it. "I. Fucking. Hate. It." it's really not that difficult. in fact, telling the truth often makes things easier.

Anton has now improved his hairdo. not entirely to my satisfaction, but yeah.

another example, now I'm at it; Ronin kind of annoys me for several reasons I won't go into. still, if I'm honest, I say she's a fuckingly hot piece of ass. I mean, not as flamingly hot as Iz or Mags, who also have a personality attached to all that hotness, but yeah, subjectively seeing from my angle she's hot. I can say this in the very same sentence as I say I find her annoying.

people are assholes, but you might want to wonder whether they are, because they're honest, or because they're dishonest. I think it depends on the person you're talking about.

there's one major "but". when I genuinely appreciate someone, which can be for many many fantastic reasons, I automatically see some form of beauty in them. to me some people just.. glow, no matter what they look like. it's the subjectivity that consumes my judgement. but if I hadn't been subjective for that reason, I'd been for a million others.

Betty
03-04-2006, 07:59 PM
people are assholes, but you might want to wonder whether they are, because they're honest, or because they're dishonest. I think it depends on the person you're talking about.


Okay, if somebody ASKS you what you think of their looks and you tell them they're hideous, then you're being honest.

If you see some random ugly person and say "hey, you're totally hideous", then you're being an ass. I'm sure they know they're ugly and I'm sure they especially love it when people take the time to remind them. How sweet!

This thread pisses me off. Sure, some people might be trying to be mean to Ash as he "had it coming" or whatever, but what about the girl? This girl, who's totally innocent, had her photo posted on a random website, and here are a bunch of people she doesn't know pointing out how ugly they think she is. That is SUCH an asshole thing to do. Poor girl. And it's funny, cause even the "nice" people are getting in on it. I don't even consider myself particularly nice; I can be pretty blunt, and I'm not particularly nice to people I don't really like, but many of these comments are just downright unecessary and mean.

Come to think of it, I think it's always unecessary to bring somebody's looks into the picture, unless they specifically ask about the. Even if somebody is a total asshole, or you are having an argument, it's just petty. People can control what they say, how they act, they can control what they wear and if they take care of their body (feel free to call people fat), but if they have an ugly face, they can't do a damn thing about it short of plastic surgery.

All About Eve
03-04-2006, 08:12 PM
I can't speak for everyone, but I was merely expressing my opinion, attempting to in such as way as to annoy TOM just a little bit extra. Perhaps it was a bit bastardish to the girl, but then again she doesn't post here as far as I know, had she been a member I wouldn't have said it in that way, if at all. And not all of us are attacking either one, simply agreeing as it's fun to get on someone's nerves once in a while. I'll admit that I did it to tick him off on purpose, mainly for his attack at Sammie. My point is, I wasn't attacking her as much as I was him.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-04-2006, 08:21 PM
Personally I don't care two ticks what she looks like. My point is Ash has been hammering on at Kym for god knows how long, and he's attacked Sam once or twice for no good reason. That's the reason for this.

Betty
03-04-2006, 08:28 PM
Like I said, I still think attacking people's looks, or their girlfriend's, or their mom's, even if they deserve it, is petty. Even if they attacked YOUR looks, it's totally one of those "do you really want to stoop to that level?" moments.

Haha Dave... go use clarasul!!!

That shit just annoys me and so I went on a rant.

All About Eve
03-04-2006, 08:30 PM
No offense, but did you not read what we said? We're not attacking their looks, just using them as a way to attack Ash.

0r4ng3
03-04-2006, 08:32 PM
So, attacking their looks has nothing to do with attacking their looks at all.

I've learned so much today.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-04-2006, 08:48 PM
It's not a question of attacking Ash. It's a question of an eye for an eye.

0r4ng3
03-04-2006, 08:55 PM
Yeah, that's what I figured it was.

JohnnyNemesis
03-04-2006, 09:14 PM
I'm thoroughly disappointed over how a few of you went soft just because Betty doesn't like what you did.

Stop backtracking. What Betty said we did is EXACTLY what we did, and she's totally right. But just because it pisses her off doesn't mean that it's wrong or that anyone should be sorry (unless you truly regret it on your own), so don't try to vary the story or the actions now.

She has her view, others have theirs, and I doubt anyone's gonna hold anything against anyone over it.

In other words, I remain unapologetic. In my view, I had enough reason to be a complete asshole to a stranger who I'm confident doesn't care about me and shouldn't. I'm not saying that it was okay, or that it's justified; just that I don't regret it.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-04-2006, 09:15 PM
I'm not backtracking at all. Those have always been my reasons. I'm simply explaining them.

All About Eve
03-04-2006, 09:16 PM
Pft, if I had meant it like that I wouldn't have backed down. I just wanted my message clear.

Betty
03-04-2006, 09:34 PM
I appreciate your answer Rick.

I obviously KNOW that this whole thread was intended as a way to piss off Ash, blah, blah, blah, nobody had to re-explain or try and rationalize their words.

I just felt like ranting.

And if people have no qualms with saying what they said, then fine. The best kind of asshole is the self-proclaimed kind.

But then maybe some people will take a second look at the situation and realize "hey, yeah, it IS kinda immature and petty" and think twice in the future... who knows?

Tizzalicious
03-05-2006, 12:28 AM
Betty is teh smartz.

Nina
03-05-2006, 12:38 AM
Yeah, and when I say the exact same thing, everyone's like "shut up". :/

Tizzalicious
03-05-2006, 12:43 AM
Yeah, and when I say the exact same thing, everyone's like "shut up". :/

Same here. I've said it a million times, but people don't really care then.

Suckups.

Nina
03-05-2006, 12:45 AM
We just arent as smart :P

BUT WE STICK TOGETHA SISTA.

..haha lame.

Tizzalicious
03-05-2006, 12:46 AM
Haha, we have common sense too though. Grrr.

JohnnyNemesis
03-05-2006, 02:41 AM
But then maybe some people will take a second look at the situation and realize "hey, yeah, it IS kinda immature and petty" and think twice in the future... who knows?

First off, a disclaimer: I'm fucked up (drunk) and trying my damndest not to make any spelling or grammatical errors.

I appreciate your response too, and as far as what I quoted goes, I agree 100%, and think it's totally reasonable.

arak0r
03-05-2006, 02:54 AM
im just gonna slowly reach back up into this thread and say, i slightly agree that if it was a person everyone liked, there would be a few positive comments no matter how hideous a person is. if someone is good looking, but a complete cunt, theyll either get ignored, or trash talked.

im not saying if someones ugly, give them shit or anything, rather, just don't say anything. kind of like how if you say something quite often, it loses its meaning, whereas if you say it very rarely, it actually does seem more meaningful. just my two cents though.

JoY
03-05-2006, 05:14 AM
I do agree with Michelle. fully. if I was speaking to the girl, I'd maybe apologise & probably explain my arsy-ness in a clumsy way, trying to make it right. still I don't feel any urge to apologise to anyone in this thread, let alone to Ash. like Dave said, the way he treated Kim, his own girlfriend.. gah. that just made me vomit. even in this very same thread (I think) he called her a fat cutter.

if you know how a boyfriend & girlfriend can influence one another (which most of you do) & if you know how powerful crushes, love & also young love can be, then he treated her worse than I'd treat my garbage bag. & saying it was just over the internet isn't valid at all, because after all this *is* a (disforming) mirror of reality. I realised with my first reply that the concept of picking on someone's looks is low. I changed it to being less low, but still, yeah, low. maybe we just used her to get to him, which is nothing to be proud of.

Michelle, you can say she didn't ask for anyone's opinion on her looks. but Ash posted her picture in the PhotoAlbum & generally people post up pictures for reactions. he could've had a few reasons for posting himself with his new girlfriend; to say "look, I've ditched Kim & am already shagging the next one, ladykiller me", to say "Kim, you've officially been traded in", or just simply to show us a picture of his latest girlfriend, in which case he still asks for reactions. & he could expect them to be hostile, as he's misbehaved so many times here.

MindlessSelfIndulgent
03-05-2006, 11:31 AM
I do not think she's ugly. And being mean to her is really lame, none of you know her. Retards.

Linda
03-05-2006, 11:55 AM
^I totally agree^

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 11:57 AM
I do not think she's ugly. And being mean to her is really lame, none of you know her. Retards.

It's not mean to her. As we've explaned a thousand times, this is about Ash, not her.

And do you think it's better that Ash constantly made fun of and degraded both his girlfriend, and random strangers (Rag Doll)? He didn't know Rag Doll. Why have you not called him up on that too?

Nina
03-05-2006, 11:58 AM
I did :/

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TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 12:00 PM
I know you did. That didn't apply to you.

Nina
03-05-2006, 12:00 PM
But just because she did not comment on that issue, maybe because she didnt read it, doesnt mean she cant have the same opinion on this?

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 12:01 PM
I'm not saying she can't have that opinion. But to call us up on that and not call up TOM for doing the same thing is hypocrisy.

Paint_It_Black
03-05-2006, 12:01 PM
I can't believe this thread is still going.

Nina
03-05-2006, 12:02 PM
I'm not saying she can't have that opinion. But to call us up on that and not call up TOM for doing the same thing is hypocrisy.

UNLESS she didnt read it! And I could imagine that she didnt.

But yeah, calling you retarded for that...uumm. :P

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 12:03 PM
You know you totally wanna be on my side. My nose commands you.

Nina
03-05-2006, 12:04 PM
haha AW.
That's kinda cute. Now I'll always think of your nose when I read a post of yours. As if your nose is actually speaking, not you :P

Sin Studly
03-05-2006, 12:05 PM
if someone is good looking, but a complete cunt, theyll either get ignored, or trash talked.

Hello? Did you forget what happened when I posted my pictures?

JohnnyNemesis
03-05-2006, 12:10 PM
Hello? Did you forget what happened when I posted my pictures?

Exactly. For fuck's sake, people Justin TORMENTED, including NiG and Duskygrin admit he was hot, and when I called them on it they said they thought he was joking all along.

And being mean to her is really lame, none of you know her.

And, as a result, we don't care about her. I don't see what's so surprising about that.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 12:17 PM
haha AW.
That's kinda cute. Now I'll always think of your nose when I read a post of yours. As if your nose is actually speaking, not you :P

Oh, thanks. =P

nieh
03-05-2006, 12:19 PM
haha AW.
That's kinda cute. Now I'll always think of your nose when I read a post of yours. As if your nose is actually speaking, not you :P

You know, now that I read that, I'm going to think the same thing.

MindlessSelfIndulgent
03-05-2006, 12:22 PM
Why have you not called him up on that too?

I think you've all covered that.


And, as a result, we don't care about her. I don't see what's so surprising about that.

Still there's no reason to call her ugly. I'd have a few thousand more posts in the photo album if that was the case.

Betty
03-05-2006, 12:27 PM
I'm not saying she can't have that opinion. But to call us up on that and not call up TOM for doing the same thing is hypocrisy.

Okay, TOM is a complete retard and ass I'm sure, I don't really pay too much attention to everything he does to be honest, because quite frankly I'm not that interested.

I don't even think this fact needs to be acknowledged. What he said to Sam was absolutely uncalled for. How he treated Kim was pretty bad too, I don't doubt (but that whole relationship was retarded...).

The point is, just because Ash is being a pathetic loser asshole, does that mean others should do the same thing to get back at him? I hold most of the others in this thread in much higher esteem and so would expect more from them. Use your intelligence and biting wit to come up with a much more appropriate insult for Ash. I don't give a fuck what Ash says, he's been written off for ages, and would have been on ignore if I wasn't a mod.

Anyway, I don't wanna come off as a total bitch in this thread, although it's kinda fun to be bitchy for a change. I'm not looking down at everybody thinking "Ooooohhhh... such terrible people". I know Ash had it coming, and it's "just the Internet", etc. And I've certainly done my share of asshole-ish things without really thinking twice about it. But I still think it's sad that (most) people act the way they do sometimes. I'm not in grade 5 anymore, and it's annoying when adults still kinda act that way.

And... umm... cheers to Tizz and Nina? I know you were trying to say it all along...

Edit: Oh, and Rick, I thought you didn't drink?

Sin Studly
03-05-2006, 12:27 PM
Still there's no reason to call her ugly.

I can think of a reason ; she's ugly.

Linda
03-05-2006, 12:38 PM
The UnholyNightbringer: Lose the ugly chick.

MindlessSelfIndulgent: I do not think she's ugly. And being mean to her is really lame, none of you know her. Retards.

TheUnholyNightbringer: And do you think it's better that Ash constantly made fun of and degraded both his girlfriend, and random strangers (Rag Doll)? He didn't know Rag Doll.

You did the same thing TOM did. His girlfriend is a random stranger to you. Guess that would make you no better than he is.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 12:40 PM
I said that after months of TOM doing the same thing. He's been doing it to plenty of people and I'm sick of it.

MindlessSelfIndulgent
03-05-2006, 12:42 PM
Get over it. She has nothing to do with him being an idiot.

Linda
03-05-2006, 12:42 PM
I said that after months of TOM doing the same thing. He's been doing it to plenty of people and I'm sick of it.

But did you really need to stoop to his level? That girl did absolutely nothing to you. Why take it out on her? Or why use HER (random stranger) to take it out on him?

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 12:44 PM
Get over it. She has nothing to do with him being an idiot.

Nor did Sam have anything to do with this situation. I don't care about stooping to his level or whatever, he needs to see how it feels.

Linda
03-05-2006, 12:45 PM
he needs to see how it feels.

I doubt you made him feel anything.

MindlessSelfIndulgent
03-05-2006, 12:46 PM
Nor did Sam have anything to do with this situation. I don't care about stooping to his level or whatever, he needs to see how it feels.

I really don't think he cares. But if I were his girlfriend, I would.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-05-2006, 12:47 PM
I doubt you made him feel anything.

He said he didn't care. And then challenged me to fight him. Doesn't look like it washed over him to me.

Paint_It_Black
03-05-2006, 12:58 PM
This thread needs to die now. Everyone has made their point. There's nothing left to say.

JohnnyNemesis
03-05-2006, 01:08 PM
Nah, it continues.


Still there's no reason to call her ugly.

Nope. There IS reason to call her ugly, and we all explained that reason a bunch of times. What you mean is that you and a few others don't like our reason, and don't approve of it, but that's a whole lot different from us not having one.


Edit: Oh, and Rick, I thought you didn't drink?


Yeah, I thought so too. Then things happened last night. Yergh.

Everyone keeps referring to this girl as a "random stranger", as if that's supposed to make it all worse. Pfft. It's just a reminder me that her feelings probably aren't hurt because we're insignificant to her. She doesn't give a fuck about us one bit.

All About Eve
03-05-2006, 01:11 PM
The fact that she's a stranger makes me feel better about it.

arak0r
03-05-2006, 01:14 PM
It's not a question of attacking Ash. It's a question of an eye for an eye.

just seein this now, but isnt there an old clever quote,

an eye for an eye and soon the whole world is blind.

thank you gandhi

killer_queen
03-05-2006, 01:17 PM
This thread needs to die now. Everyone has made their point. There's nothing left to say.

I haven't.

I think there's nothing wrong with calling someone ugly. Idiocy and ugliness are like the same things. They both annoy people, they both can't be changed. Maybe someone can look prettier with a little makeup or sound smarter with the reading books. But nobody can't change their looks and brain completely.

So, nobody hesitated about calling TOM idiot in this thread. If we knew his new girlfriend's personality we would say the same thing for her. It wouldn't be mean because calling an idiot idiot is not mean. But calling someone ugly ugly is mean.

I just can't understand the difference. Calling someone ugly is not an insult. (I mean not always an insult) It's just stating an opinion. Girl's feelings? If she is qualified enough (I mean if she's nice, sweet, smart, etc) she wouldn't mind when she reads this. But still she is TOM's girlfriend. She picked him. She wanted him to be her girlfriend. So there's nothing wrong with insulting her, I think. I'm sure she wouldn't even understand when she reads this thread.

Tizzalicious
03-05-2006, 11:39 PM
That makes no sense whatsoever.

Someone who is nice//sweet//smart can still be hurt when someone calls them ugly.

And idiocy is a lot easier to change than ugliness.

Sin Studly
03-06-2006, 01:24 AM
thank you gandhi

You do realise that ghandi never won ; people's club-arms just got tired.