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pretty fly 88
03-04-2006, 05:31 PM
100 Quiet Riot
99 Bad Brains
98 Mountain
97 Primus
96 Meat Loaf
95 Fugazi
94 Yes
93 Lenny Kravitz
92 The Black Crowes
91 The Misfits
90 Rainbow
89 Lita Ford
88 Tool
87 King Crimson
86 Foreigner
85 Whitesnake
84 UFO
83 King's X
82 Queensryche
81 The Pixies
80 Green Day
79 Ratt
78 Marilyn Manson
77 Hole
76 Bon Jovi
75 Spinal Tap
74 Pat Benatar
73 Twisted Sister
72 Foo Fighters
71 Lynyrd Skynyrd
70 Living Colour
69 Megadeth
68 Hüsker Dü
67 The Rolling Stones
66 Joan Jett
65 The Cult
64 Steppenwolf
63 Boston
62 Ministry
61 Jethro Tull
60 The New York Dolls
59 Bad Company
58 Anthrax
57 Heart
56 White Zombie
55 Blue ýyster Cult
54 Sonic Youth
53 Korn
52 Faith No More
51 Thin Lizzy
50 Slayer
49 The Smashing Pumpkins
48 Janis Joplin
47 Rollins Band
46 Scorpions
45 Pantera
44 ZZ Top
43 Nine Inch Nails
42 The Kinks
41 Ted Nugent
40 Stone Temple Pilots
39 Crazy Horse
38 MC5
37 The Yardbirds
36 Frank Zappa
35 Jane's Addiction
34 Alice in Chains
33 Rage Against the Machine
32 The Doors
31 Def Leppard
30 The Red Hot Chili Peppers
29 Mötley Crüe
28 Rush
27 Iggy Pop
26 Motörhead
25 Cheap Trick
24 Iron Maiden
23 Judas Priest
22 Deep Purple
21 Pearl Jam
20 Alice Cooper
19 The Clash
18 Ozzy Osbourne
17 The Ramones
16 Cream
15 Pink Floyd
14 Soundgarden
13 Queen
12 The Sex Pistols
11 Aerosmith
10 Kiss
9 Guns N' Roses
8 The Who
7 Van Halen
6 Nirvana
5 Metallica
4 AC/DC
3 Jimi Hendrix
2 Black Sabbath
1 Led Zeppelin

What are your thoughts?
If you ask me, it's a pretty messed up list, the most messed up thing being the Rolling Stones all the way down there at #67( :eek: :eek: :eek: ) They should be in the top 10, or at least in the top 20.

Jakebert
03-04-2006, 05:37 PM
Some of that list sucked, some of it was really great. The inclusion of Fugazi, Velvet Underground, Pixies, Sonic Youth, the Misfits, Husker Du, New York Dolls, and the MC5 is suprisingly great for a VH1 show, which usually ignores great bands like these that deserve a lot more credit than they get.

But then there's crap like Korn, Boston, Ratt, Marilyn Manson, and crap like that which really makes me wonder.

Revolver-2005?
03-04-2006, 05:39 PM
Um Greenday was on there and that confuses me, it doesn't confuse me because they suck ( which they do) but they aren't a hard rock band,

Not a bad list with a few exceptions.

pretty fly 88
03-04-2006, 05:42 PM
Um Greenday was on there and that confuses me, it doesn't confuse me because they suck ( which they do) but they aren't a hard rock band,

Not a bad list with a few exceptions.
I'm pretty sure a lot of the bands on that list aren't hard rock. Pink Floyd is even less hard rock than Green Day. Maybe they just meant rock.

Drummerguy123
03-04-2006, 06:04 PM
What the hell is Queen doing ahead of Pink Floyd?

DeAtHsTaR
03-04-2006, 06:05 PM
That show aired 6 years ago.

offspring fan
03-04-2006, 06:15 PM
ehhh.... green day, marilyn manson and korn :confused:
that list sucked.

Jakebert
03-04-2006, 06:16 PM
What the hell is Queen doing ahead of Pink Floyd?

They're only ahead of them by 2. Most of the lists order outside of the top 10 seems fairly random.

The thing that gets me is how many bands the Sex Pistols are ahead of, or that they're on the list at all.

offspring fan
03-04-2006, 06:21 PM
100 Quiet Riot

98 Mountain
97 Primus
96 Meat Loaf
95 Fugazi

92 The Black Crowes

90 Rainbow
89 Lita Ford

87 King Crimson
86 Foreigner

84 UFO
83 King's X
82 Queensryche

79 Ratt

74 Pat Benatar

71 Lynyrd Skynyrd
70 Living Colour

68 Hüsker Dü

66 Joan Jett

64 Steppenwolf
63 Boston
62 Ministry
61 Jethro Tull

58 Anthrax
57 Heart



40 Stone Temple Pilots
39 Crazy Horse
38 MC5
37 The Yardbirds

35 Jane's Addiction
28 Rush

25 Cheap Trick

16 Cream
.
i dont think i have ever heard about those bands

DeAtHsTaR
03-04-2006, 06:36 PM
i dont think i have ever heard about those bands
Are you serious? Some of those are some of the biggest bands of all time.

offspring fan
03-04-2006, 06:39 PM
Are you serious? Some of those are some of the biggest bands of all time.
well.... mabye i have..... but i cant remember it.

Drummerguy123
03-04-2006, 08:50 PM
i dont think i have ever heard about those bands

Holy shit! Are you kidding!?

pretty fly 88
03-04-2006, 09:05 PM
i dont think i have ever heard about those bands
You've never heard of the Stone Temple Pilots? They get tons of airplay where I live.

Drummerguy123
03-04-2006, 09:09 PM
Or Primus, or Fugazi, or UFO, or Queensryche, or Ratt, or Lynyrd Skynyrd, or Boston, or........well.........you get the idea.

pretty_fly_white_guy858
03-04-2006, 09:22 PM
i dont think i have ever heard about those bands
WHAT!!! PRIMUS? JANES ADDICTION? God. You dont listen to older music that much do you.

offspring fan
03-05-2006, 07:06 AM
well..... i gess those bands arent that famus in norway...

offspring kid
03-05-2006, 08:29 AM
^He's right none of those bands are popular in Norway,but i have heared a song by lynyrd skynyrd,i think it was Free Bird and i know about janes addiction cause Carmen electra is married to one of the members in that band ! :)

Jakebert
03-05-2006, 08:30 AM
Well, I guess I could see not hearing of Fugazi since they were never that big, but still, some of those others.

PS.- Check out Fugazi because they're probably better than most of what you listen to.

Endymion
03-05-2006, 09:44 AM
i think seven bands on that list would be considered hard rock.

Rocky-girl
03-05-2006, 10:22 AM
I think that Korn must be in top 20!

Jakebert
03-05-2006, 11:39 AM
I think that Korn must be in top 20!

If you're not joking, you make me very, very sad.

Drummerguy123
03-05-2006, 12:03 PM
I think that Korn must be in top 20!

Wow. I must agree with Jakebert on this one. Seriously, WTF?

punker
03-05-2006, 02:55 PM
in what were they based to make that list, popularity or good music, because some things there dont fit in either way

Drummerguy123
03-05-2006, 02:56 PM
Really the only things I agree with are Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath being at the top of the list, although I think Pink Floyd should be 2 and Black Sabbath should be 3.

Nineteen Seventy Nine
03-05-2006, 03:12 PM
It is from 2000. So it would change dramtically.

Edit: Green Day would go way higher along with Foo Fighters. The Offspring might show up and so might Avenged Sevenfold or Velvet Revolver.

Jakebert
03-05-2006, 03:43 PM
Avenged Sevenfold will never be on a list like that unless humanity officially goes down the shitter.

That list does have a lot of low points, but the high points of it are really surprising. I would have never expected bands like Fugazi, Bad Brain, Sonic Youth, Husker Du, and the Velvet Underground to actually get recognized on a list like that, especially since it's VH1, who usually creams itself over crap like Kid Rock.

The only thing that bothers me is that bands like the Doors and the Rolling Stones were so low on the list.

What I'd kind of like to see is a list of what VH1 thinks the most important alternative rock bands of all time is, but they'd probably just load it with Limp Bizkit and Thirdy Eye Blind or something.

Drummerguy123
03-05-2006, 03:46 PM
Avenged Sevenfold will never be on a list like that unless humanity officially goes down the shitter.

That list does have a lot of low points, but the high points of it are really surprising. I would have never expected bands like Fugazi, Bad Brain, Sonic Youth, Husker Du, and the Velvet Underground to actually get recognized on a list like that, especially since it's VH1, who usually creams itself over crap like Kid Rock.

The only thing that bothers me is that bands like the Doors and the Rolling Stones were so low on the list.

What I'd kind of like to see is a list of what VH1 thinks the most important alternative rock bands of all time is, but they'd probably just load it with Limp Bizkit and Thirdy Eye Blind or something.


Wow. Another post where I agree with you 100%. keep it up.

pretty fly 88
03-05-2006, 06:44 PM
I think that Korn must be in top 20!
I like Korn, but even I don't think they should be in the top 20, and just the thought of them being ranked ahead of the Rolling Stones still bugs the hell out of me.

Endymion
03-05-2006, 06:47 PM
how many of you would really call the rolling stones a hard rock band?

Nineteen Seventy Nine
03-05-2006, 06:48 PM
how many of you would really call the rolling stones a hard rock band?

I wouldn't but I think they were just trying to get away from bands that sound like Franz Ferdinand or All-American Rejects.

Edit:

I know, and that makes me wonder how U2, the Cure, and the Beatles didn't make it to the list. They're not hard rock, but...

Yet that still screws up my theory. When I watching it and approaching the top 3 I was like how could Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, U2, and The Beatles not all be on the list?

pretty fly 88
03-05-2006, 06:48 PM
i think seven bands on that list would be considered hard rock.
I know, and that makes me wonder how U2, the Cure, and the Beatles didn't make it to the list. They're not hard rock, but...

pretty fly 88
03-05-2006, 06:50 PM
how many of you would really call the rolling stones a hard rock band?
I wouldn't, but if VH1 considers them hard rock, I'm still confused as to why they aren't higher.

Jakebert
03-05-2006, 07:08 PM
The Rolling Stones played rock 'n roll, and at the time they first came out, were one of the dirtiest, "heavy" bands around.

The Beatles were essentially a pop band, even in their later years. And U2 is without any doubt a pop band, and have never really been a rock band. Both of those bands are very talented, but very pop.

barangatang
03-05-2006, 08:37 PM
i dont think i have ever heard about those bands

have you heard of eric clapton? he's lead singer of cream (and guitarist, of course)

offspring fan
03-06-2006, 09:29 AM
have you heard of eric clapton? he's lead singer of cream (and guitarist, of course)
yes i heard about him..... my dad is a big fan of him :p

pretty fly 88
03-07-2006, 06:45 PM
have you heard of eric clapton? he's lead singer of cream (and guitarist, of course)
Didn't Eric Clapton have a solo career? My dad has an Eric Clapton greatest hits CD, and I don't know if there are any Cream songs on there.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-07-2006, 09:52 PM
Pahaha, Spinal Tap?!

I'm so happy Queensryche were there.

yay
03-07-2006, 09:59 PM
As much as I love Green Day and they are my favourite band, I cant understand how they are considered "Hard Rock". If it was an alternative list or just a "Best Rock Bands" list I could understand. But they aren't that heavy.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-07-2006, 10:06 PM
Lenny Kravitz and Foreigner were on there. I think Green Day pass.

Jakebert
03-08-2006, 11:56 AM
As much as I love Green Day and they are my favourite band, I cant understand how they are considered "Hard Rock". If it was an alternative list or just a "Best Rock Bands" list I could understand. But they aren't that heavy.

I think that it was basically a "best rock bands" thing, but either way, Green Day do fall into the pop-punk category, which they said on the show was included in the selection.

Offspring-Fanatic
03-09-2006, 03:21 PM
uh, this is a bit off but The Offspring aren't on there (or NOFX)

and Lenny Kravitz is...

anyone else find something wrong with this??

bd007h
03-09-2006, 03:23 PM
not really

pretty fly 88
03-09-2006, 06:03 PM
uh, this is a bit off but The Offspring aren't on there (or NOFX)

and Lenny Kravitz is...

anyone else find something wrong with this??
Lenny Kravitz is more popular among adults than Offspring or NOFX, so no I don't have a huge problem with it.

DeAtHsTaR
03-09-2006, 06:11 PM
Lenny Kravitz is more popular among adults than Offspring or NOFX, so no I don't have a huge problem with it.
But Green Day was on it, and this list was made in 2000 or 2001.

Nineteen Seventy Nine
03-09-2006, 06:12 PM
But Green Day was on it, and this list was made in 2000 or 2001.

My dad loved the album Dookie.

pretty fly 88
03-09-2006, 06:15 PM
But Green Day was on it, and this list was made in 2000 or 2001.
Even then, they still had more hits than the Offspring. My mom has a friend that loves the song Good Riddance(Time Of Your Life).

Jakebert
03-10-2006, 12:02 PM
Lenny Kravitz is more popular among adults than Offspring or NOFX, so no I don't have a huge problem with it.


Why the fuck would NOFX be on a list like that?

Come out and smash'em up!
03-10-2006, 01:41 PM
What i think if the list would have done by cliches and by my opinion it would had all rock alternative bands it would go like this

1.The Beatles
2.Black Sabbath
3.Queen
4.Metallica
5.Rolling stones
6.Jimi Hendrix
7.AC/DC
8.Iron Maiden
9.Nirvana
10.u 2
11.Led Zeppelin (they were one only becouse of fucking stairway to heaven)
12.Gun's and roses
13.The ramones
14.Pink floyd
15.Deep purple
16.Ozzy Osbourne
17.The who
18.Bon jovi
19.Red hot chili peppers
20.The doors
21.Judas Priest
22.Slayer
23.Sex pistols
24.The Clash
25.Korn
26.Mötörhead
27.Venom
28.Kiss
29.Aerosmith
30.Van halen
31.Hanoi Rocks
32.Billy idol
33.Pantera
34.Scorpions
35.Faith no more
34.Joan Jett
35.The Offspring
36.Megadeath
37.Lynyrd Skynyrd
38.Green day
39.Marilyn Manson
40.Lenny Kravitz

I can see that the VH list was American couse there were so many bands that aren't in europe very famous, and there were many one hit wonders like steppenwolf and twisted sisters

Jakebert
03-10-2006, 04:59 PM
What i think if the list would have done by cliches and by my opinion it would had all rock alternative bands it would go like this

I keep trying to read that, but it honestly makes my head hurt.

pretty fly 88
03-10-2006, 05:32 PM
Why the fuck would NOFX be on a list like that?
I don't know. I don't even know who they are, I'm not the one that said they should be on the list.

bouncingcoles
03-12-2006, 07:49 AM
if that list was updated greenday would be much higher on the list. unfortunatly

Jakebert
03-12-2006, 08:30 AM
I've never seen a solid, good list of anything to do with music in any magazine or on any TV show. I don't think it's possible to make a good list like that though, because they try to make everyone happy, which is impossible.

killer_queen
03-12-2006, 09:34 AM
I'm glad that U2 is not on the list.

That_Guy91
03-12-2006, 12:10 PM
What i think if the list would have done by cliches and by my opinion it would had all rock alternative bands it would go like this

1.The Beatles
2.Black Sabbath
3.Queen
4.Metallica
5.Rolling stones
6.Jimi Hendrix
7.AC/DC
8.Iron Maiden
9.Nirvana
10.u 2
11.Led Zeppelin (they were one only becouse of fucking stairway to heaven)
12.Gun's and roses
13.The ramones
14.Pink floyd
15.Deep purple
16.Ozzy Osbourne
17.The who
18.Bon jovi
19.Red hot chili peppers
20.The doors
21.Judas Priest
22.Slayer
23.Sex pistols
24.The Clash
25.Korn
26.Mötörhead
27.Venom
28.Kiss
29.Aerosmith
30.Van halen
31.Hanoi Rocks
32.Billy idol
33.Pantera
34.Scorpions
35.Faith no more
34.Joan Jett
35.The Offspring
36.Megadeath
37.Lynyrd Skynyrd
38.Green day
39.Marilyn Manson
40.Lenny Kravitz

I can see that the VH list was American couse there were so many bands that aren't in europe very famous, and there were many one hit wonders like steppenwolf and twisted sisters


You fail, because-

1. Led Zeppelin not in the top 10
2. Sex Pistols higher than The Clash
3. Korn higher than Pantera, Motorhead, Megadeth, Venom, etc.
4. Marilyn Manson
5. Ozzy's solo work
6. Faith No More
7. Nirvana in 9th

I could just go on forever.

Holger estonia
07-28-2006, 10:53 AM
What the hell is Queen doing ahead of Pink Floyd?
weird cos queen sux ass....at least I think so

mrconeman
07-28-2006, 11:05 AM
This thread, and both lists make me sad.

GBH2
07-28-2006, 11:50 AM
I don't know. I don't even know who they are, I'm not the one that said they should be on the list.
What????
go jump off a bridge.
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also, no social distortion on the list?
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also, the beatles are definitely not hard rock, so therefore should not be included

Dude From Dudetown
07-28-2006, 12:12 PM
You guys have to understand that everyone has different taste, so it is impossible to say which band is higher than the other. It is all opininated. I could say that Green Day is better than Led Zeppelin, and that's and opinion.

Jakebert
07-28-2006, 01:50 PM
weird cos queen sux ass....at least I think so

After seeing your list of 10 songs everyone should hear, I really don't think you have any idea what music even is.

Thomas
07-28-2006, 05:30 PM
11.Led Zeppelin (they were one only becouse of fucking stairway to heaven)

Do you seriously think that Stairway to Heaven is their only legendary song? IMO, it's not even their best. You pretty much fail at life.

Also, this thread did not need to be revived.

mrconeman
07-28-2006, 05:34 PM
Do you seriously think that Stairway to Heaven is their only legendary song? IMO, it's not even their best. You pretty much fail at life.

Also, this thread did not need to be revived.
tbf Stairway isnt even in their top 10 best songs.

Original prankstA
07-28-2006, 05:56 PM
97 Primus
one word: how?

Retard
07-28-2006, 08:35 PM
i dont get how a fan of the Offspring hasnt heard of NOFX, since theyre one of Offsprings biggest influences probably. :D

Thomas
07-29-2006, 12:24 PM
tbf Stairway isnt even in their top 10 best songs.

My point exactly.

coke_a_holic
07-29-2006, 01:12 PM
one word: how?
If by that you mean "how are they so high on the list rather than being lower?", then I agree.

DICKON
07-29-2006, 02:51 PM
quiet riot- cum on feel the noize
lynyrd skynyrd- sweet home alabama
steppenwolf- born to be wild

ring any bells?

Come out and smash'em up!
07-30-2006, 03:04 AM
my bells are ringing, one hit wonders.
in 2000 or 2001 i didn't know even about a band called Green day, Primus i only know cause of the duet with Ozzy N.I.B. Great that Anthrax is there!

Marco
07-30-2006, 04:23 AM
What the hell is Queen doing ahead of Pink Floyd?
Just doing what is right.
Anyway, the list sucks.

mrconeman
07-30-2006, 05:27 AM
my bells are ringing, one hit wonders.
Lawl, you're stupid.

EDIT:
Just doing what is right.
So are you.

bouncingcoles
07-30-2006, 08:50 AM
why the hell are sound garden and stone temple pilots so high on the list. fuck that shit

Corrosion
08-16-2006, 03:30 AM
Soundgarden higher than Pearl Jam?

GTFO.

Pearl Jam should be bordering the top 10, or even in the top 10, IMO.

Corpse
08-16-2006, 03:55 AM
Stop bumping. Lock now.

That_Guy91
08-16-2006, 04:47 AM
Why would it need to be locked?

Corpse
08-16-2006, 05:15 AM
Old news. Besides, the actual list was made in 2000/1, old old news.

Manic Subsidal Boy
08-16-2006, 05:18 AM
It suprises me how far up Guns N' Roses are, they we're a great band but considering the amount of talent before them it's hard to picture how the Gunners made it up to #9. FUGIZI why are they there. Ian Mckaye should have kept Minor Threat or Embrace together, Fugazi ruined the reign of Ian Mckaye. Queen, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Clash, Led Zep, AC/DC, Metallica, etc. are all where they should be cause they are the kings or Rock.

That_Guy91
08-16-2006, 05:38 AM
Fugazi ruined the reign of Ian Mckaye.
What the fuck?

Manic Subsidal Boy
08-16-2006, 05:50 AM
Minor Threat are considered the best Hardcore/Punk band ever. Fugazi dont even come close to measuring up to Minor Threat in any league.

That_Guy91
08-16-2006, 05:56 AM
Fugazi isn't a hardcore band.

Manic Subsidal Boy
08-16-2006, 05:58 AM
I realise that, that is why I have stated Quote: "any league"

That_Guy91
08-16-2006, 06:00 AM
Then I don't know what Fugazi songs you've been listening to, because the song "Cashout" is better than half of Minor Threat's discography, in my opinion.

Manic Subsidal Boy
08-16-2006, 06:08 AM
In my opinion there is only one crap song by Minor Threat which is "Stumped". Everything else on Complete Discography, 20 Yrs Of Dis. and Demo Tape are just masterpieces of work. Compared to The Arguement, Repeater, and the songs of 20YOD.

That_Guy91
08-16-2006, 06:12 AM
I never said Minor Threat was bad in the least. They were an amazing band. I just don't think you're giving Fugazi enough credit, because I think they're just as good, and lots of people consider them a much better band.

Manic Subsidal Boy
08-16-2006, 06:14 AM
I realise your point, I just disagree on it.

Dude From Dudetown
08-16-2006, 08:15 AM
Whoever thinks that The Offspring should be on the list, you're an idiot.

And stop complaining about how much Green Day sucks. The only reason you guys hate them is American Idiot. I think they made original music, and were highly influencial. But you guys don't understand.

Sigh...Led Zepplin, is, of course, number 1 again. I'm tired of everybody saying how damn great they are, I think the Beatles are Rolling Stones are better.

Endymion
08-16-2006, 10:46 AM
And stop complaining about how much Green Day sucks. The only reason you guys hate them is American Idiot. I think they made original music, and were highly influencial. But you guys don't understand.
or... maybe, just maybe, i don't like any of their music, i'm greatly irritated that they were influential because it means more shitty bands like them sprung up, and that their music was not, in fact, original?

mtx >> gd.

Dude From Dudetown
08-16-2006, 11:57 AM
See, you do not understand.

IAmARevenant
08-16-2006, 12:20 PM
What the fuck is sex pistols doing higher that The Ramones? *sigh* people these days.

Llamas
08-16-2006, 12:26 PM
understand what? understand that you like green day? I like green day and find their influence annoying. I also hate people who are like "you only hate them because of american idiot". No, a lot of people genuinely don't like green day. Even dookie and warning and nimrod!!!! 0MGz!!!!1!


I think they made original music, and were highly influencial. But you guys don't understand.

we don't understand what you think? I understand that you think that stuff. I don't think they were original. And they were influential, but all the bands they influenced suck.


Sigh...Led Zepplin, is, of course, number 1 again. I'm tired of everybody saying how damn great they are, I think the Beatles are Rolling Stones are better.

uhhh the beatles were far from hard rock. plus they weren't very talented musicially. I don't really care for LZ, but I know they're damn talented. Get over your damn opinion and realize that other people have different opinions.

Llamas
08-16-2006, 12:26 PM
What the fuck is sex pistols doing higher that The Ramones? *sigh* people these days.

the sex pistols were awful. They shouldn't be on that list at all.

XYlophonetreeZ
08-16-2006, 12:27 PM
the sex pistols were awful. They shouldn't be on that list at all.
Quoted for truth. And controversially, I'll say the same thing about Minor Threat.

IAmARevenant
08-16-2006, 12:49 PM
sex pistols are only on that list because of the influence they had made on punk. A terrible influence btw.

mrconeman
08-16-2006, 12:57 PM
sex pistols are only on that list because of the influence they had made on punk. A terrible influence btw.
How insightfull of you Mr.Trupunx, elaborate kthx.

IAmARevenant
08-16-2006, 01:33 PM
It was a terrible influence because sex pistols made people think that if you act rebellious, hate everything, diss politics, curse all the time, and dress cool, then you're a total "pnk rawcka." Wow, what a lie.

Jakebert
08-16-2006, 02:07 PM
And that's basically what most hardcore bands said. What's your point? I mean, I hate the Pistols too, but that's a lame reason.

Llamas
08-16-2006, 02:11 PM
I personally dislike them because they didn't do anything. They were a bunch of assholes with zero talent who put out one shitty album. Then they put out a bunch more albums with the same songs on them. And somehow, those like 11 songs made them amazingly famous. They were horrible at their instruments, and johnny could not sing for his life. Their music is not even listenable. Their lyrics were not original. The Ramones and The Clash actually did something and had talent and original lyrics. And they weren't just a bunch of complete dicks, yet still managed to live punk lifestyles.

Yatesy
08-16-2006, 02:52 PM
The Ramones actually did something and had talent and original lyrics.


Umm not saying they were bad, but you might want to reconsider that statement.

DeAtHsTaR
08-16-2006, 03:09 PM
Umm not saying they were bad, but you might want to reconsider that statement.
Yep, they weren't very talented. Better the the Pistols though. The Clash was the best of the big 3 of early punk.

Llamas
08-16-2006, 03:22 PM
Umm not saying they were bad, but you might want to reconsider that statement.

I personally think they were original and talented. The speed they played at live shows was incredible and had never been done before. Many of their song topics had also never been done before.

mrconeman
08-16-2006, 03:41 PM
It was a terrible influence because sex pistols made people think that if you act rebellious, hate everything, diss politics, curse all the time, and dress cool, then you're a total "pnk rawcka." Wow, what a lie.
No, thats what complete morons took from their influence, any member of that band would tell you themself that dressing like them to be "Cool" is completely the opposite of what they wanted.
I'm not really a fan of the band myself, but you're just stupid, and jumping on them to do exactly what you critisize their fans for "To look cool".

I garuntee you they influenced most of the bands you like/love/listen too.

EDIT:

I personally think they were original and talented. The speed they played at live shows was incredible and had never been done before. Many of their song topics had also never been done before.

I LOVE the Ramones, and I like them a whole hell of alot more than the Sex Pistols, but you're wrong, in the comparison, while saying the words musically complex and The Sex Pistols is almost an oxymoron, its easy to see that they were more complex than pretty much anything the Ramones done.
Also incredible speed?.....big deal, they were still playing the same three chords, only faster, speed does not equal talent.

Again I would like to stress I like The Ramones better, your comparing them to the Sex Pistols needlessly, and like them for the wrong reasons.

Llamas
08-16-2006, 04:04 PM
sorry I misspoke. I think the ramones were more talented than the sex pistols. And I do think that. I don't see how the sex pistols were more complex at ALL.

I don't like them for the wrong reasons... I like them because they're fun and I love their sound.

mrconeman
08-16-2006, 04:11 PM
I didnt say either band was more talented than the other, I'm just pointing out that calling the Sex Pistols talentless, or saying they were horrible at their instruments is idiotic (With the exception of Sid Vicious, I know, shut up).

Llamas
08-16-2006, 04:17 PM
well... no the ramones weren't gods at their instruments, but they were actually in tune and were able to stay together. The sad part of the SP was that the ramones live music was more together than the sex pistols studio recorded music. They were not on, and never in tune. It barely sounds like music to me.

mrconeman
08-16-2006, 04:36 PM
Clearly you know nothing of a musician being in tune, when I started playing guitar a few years ago I recall playing along to a few Sex Pistols tracks, and I can tell you from listening now, they are all clearly in tune. Quit using over used punk-slanderings like they couldnt play or werent in tune, I've heard it all before, and its clearly not true and a pile of rubbish spouted by people that will say anything, regardless of how clearly inept they are musically to fault a band they dont like.

I'm completely fine with you hating the Sex Pistols, frankly I dont care, just dont say bullshit that you've heard or read somewhere and have completely no idea of how true it is.

Llamas
08-16-2006, 04:50 PM
I haven't read or heard my opinions anywhere else... and clearly I know nothing about musicians being in tune? Well I was a music major and am proficient on around 10 instruments. So I assume that somewhere in those 11 years of playing music as pretty much the most important part of my life, I learned a couple things about music and being in tune, and possibly even formed my opinions on some bands! I DISLIKE the sex pistols BECAUSE of my opinions, I didn't come up with those opinions because I don't like them.

mrconeman
08-16-2006, 05:00 PM
All I can say is for a 11 year musician, you have a disapointing musical ear if you honestly think that on their records they were out of tune.

Llamas
08-16-2006, 05:07 PM
well it's not completely obvious... maybe it's emphasized by the horrible vocals. anyway, enough arguing about the sex pistols. it's pointless. I don't like them, and they shouldn't be on the list. :)

mrconeman
08-16-2006, 05:14 PM
well it's not completely obvious...
Probably because their in tune.


and they shouldn't be on the list. :)
Now that I can agree with.

Jakebert
08-17-2006, 10:57 AM
I personally think they were original and talented. The speed they played at live shows was incredible and had never been done before. Many of their song topics had also never been done before.

Ever heard of the Velvet Underground? How about the MC5? Iggy Pop? Or the New York Dolls? All of these bands took on those topics the Ramones did, and there were a lot of other bands and artists that did the same. The only new ground the Ramones broke was in the speed of their playing. Even the 3 chord song structure had been done before.

I don't like the Sex Pistols either, but as a band, they did play well together with the exception of Sid. They played about average for a punk band.

Llamas
08-17-2006, 11:25 AM
well, I can clearly admit defeat then on that. I actually have not listened to the lyrics of the bands you listed, so my opinion was based on false facts. I did know the 3 chord structure was not new, and yes their speed was new... and while I don't think the speed automatically proclaims talent, I think it says something. I guess I just don't feel like the sex pistols did anything new. It also bothers me that they were a manufactured band much like the backstreet boys (weren't the clash, too? I can't remember.)

And I already admitted that maybe it's the vocals that kill the music for me... maybe the vocals make the instrumentation sound shittier because it clashes so badly. I haven't listened to them enough to really listen closely (I'm still disappointed that I wasted $10 on never mind the bollocks...), so I can concede that maybe it's the vocals that make the rest of it sound awful.

IAmARevenant
08-17-2006, 12:08 PM
mrconeman, stop correcting everything people say. you don't know everything.

I don't think that it was that the SP music wasn't in tune. I think it's more along the lines of, The Ramones' music is more "put together," so to speak, than the sex pistols' music. But that's just my opinion.

mrconeman
08-17-2006, 12:10 PM
mrconeman, stop correcting everything people say. you don't know everything.
I'll voice my opinion whether you want me to or not, deal with it.

IAmARevenant
08-17-2006, 12:14 PM
No, thats what complete morons took from their influence, any member of that band would tell you themself that dressing like them to be "Cool" is completely the opposite of what they wanted.
I'm not really a fan of the band myself, but you're just stupid, and jumping on them to do exactly what you critisize their fans for "To look cool".
I don't get your point at all. And I don't jump on the pistols "to look cool." I jump on them because I think they almost ruined punk with their influence.


I garuntee you they influenced most of the bands you like/love/listen too.

you don't know what bands I love/listen to.

Once again, stop correcting me.

mrconeman
08-17-2006, 12:26 PM
I don't get your point at all. And I don't jump on the pistols "to look cool." I jump on them because I think they almost ruined punk with their influence.
Well then you're a complete idiot, simple as that. I'll elaborate on this so you dont start crying at me about some other bullshit, weather you like them or not, the Sex Pistols have inspired fucking hundreds of bands, Punk and non Punk saying they almost ruined the punk scene is laughable.


you don't know what bands I love/listen to.
Yes I do.


[QUOTE=IAmARevenant]this is in no order
-The Distillers
-Misfits
-AFI
-Operation Ivy

I'll bet most if not all of them love the Sex Pistols



Once again, stop correcting me.
Shut the fuck up.

IAmARevenant
08-17-2006, 12:34 PM
Wow, you're such a fucking control freak, it's funny.

Llamas
08-17-2006, 12:35 PM
the sex pistols' attitude was not much different than ramones or the clash. They were more of assholes, but their style was similar. If they hadn't been around, the punk scene wouldn't be much different.

mrconeman, there's a difference between voicing your opinion and going around telling people that they dislike a band for the "wrong reasons". jakebert proved me wrong on a couple points without acting like a dick about it. you merely argued and sounded like an ass and didn't manage to change my mind at all.

IAmARevenant
08-17-2006, 12:43 PM
mrconeman, there's a difference between voicing your opinion and going around telling people that they dislike a band for the "wrong reasons". jakebert proved me wrong on a couple points without acting like a dick about it. you merely argued and sounded like an ass and didn't manage to change my mind at all.
Hell yeah.

mrconeman
08-17-2006, 12:45 PM
mrconeman, there's a difference between voicing your opinion and going around telling people that they dislike a band for the "wrong reasons". jakebert proved me wrong on a couple points without acting like a dick about it. you merely argued and sounded like an ass and didn't manage to change my mind at all.
He was fundamentally saying the same things that I did, you just listened to him because you already realised you were wrong on numourus points, frankly I couldn't care less if I was "Acting a dick about it" or not, It was still voicing my opinion and I'm not gunna sugarcoat something just to be nice about it.



Hell yeah.
Shut the fuck up.

EDIT:


If they hadn't been around, the punk scene wouldn't be much different.
Thats golden right there, now dont get me wrong, I fully agree, they didnt affect the punk scene all that much, but that completely proves my point that their influence wasn't "Bad for the punk scene" proving that revenant guy wrong.

Llamas
08-17-2006, 12:48 PM
now that's bullshit. you didn't try telling me that any other bands had covered the same lyrical topics in their songs, or say that the ramones did break ground with their speed. you argued nothing with me except that they were supposedly in tune. The only point I've conceded to is that maybe the ramones' lyrics weren't original because I haven't listened to the lyrics of those bands he listed. I choose to listen to them again before I make a decision on their intonation.

mrconeman
08-17-2006, 12:52 PM
Aplogies there actually, After he wrote his last paragraph and you said "Well I can admit defeat" I thought you were accepting his last paragraph as correct, on a second read I see what you're getting at.

I still stand by each and every one of my points other than that.

Llamas
08-17-2006, 12:59 PM
yeah I guess the only thing you said that was shitty was that you jumped to the conclusion that I've formed my opinions based on things I've heard or read elsewhere and claimed that I can't form my own ideas... when I formed my opinions before reading anyone else's opinions. If I just accepted what you said and went with that, THEN I'd be just following other people's opinions.

IAmARevenant
08-17-2006, 02:18 PM
I fully agree, they didnt affect the punk scene all that much, but that completely proves my point that their influence wasn't "Bad for the punk scene" proving that revenant guy wrong.
why do you care so fucking much about proving me wrong? what the hell's your problem with me? are you just like this to everybody?

mrconeman
08-17-2006, 02:25 PM
why do you care so fucking much about proving me wrong? what the hell's your problem with me? are you just like this to everybody?
If you really need a full on analysis of why I'm arguing, fine.
You're original post annoyed me because you were spouting your opinions, as fact, that has very little or no proof, when I asked you to elaborate on why that was, I simply wanted to see if you had any valid reasoning behind your accusation. When you gave your reasoning it annoyed me how ridiculously stupid and un-founded it was.
And when I tried to prove you wrong you began acting like an annoying child who can't have their way.

Please leave me alone.

Endymion
08-17-2006, 02:55 PM
fact: were it not for the existence of the sex pistols, there would now be world peace and it would be law for women to walk around naked.

IAmARevenant
08-17-2006, 10:24 PM
fact: were it not for the existence of the sex pistols, there would now be world peace and it would be law for women to walk around naked.
yet another reason why I can say that I hate the sex pistols.

Manic Subsidal Boy
08-17-2006, 11:36 PM
Quoted for truth. And controversially, I'll say the same thing about Minor Threat.

No way in the world is that true bout Minor Threat (not that i was around to tell, but i doubt it), Sex Pistols shouldnt be higher then the Ramones - True, Ramones and Sex Pistols weren't that good but today both of them are at least 3 times as more popular (Fact)

Llamas
08-18-2006, 12:12 PM
I just listened to the sex pistols' entire cd last night so that I could see what the deal is... I noticed that overall, they were mostly in tune (though I was able to pinpoint several spots where the bass was way off from the guitars)... but the biggest things that made it sound out of tune were the vocals, plus the music is just so muddled and messed up that it sounds painful to my ears and therefore out of tune.

I really think after giving it that listen that, other than the horrible vocals, the thing I dislike most about the SP is that their music is SOOOO boring and the songs all sound the same... the guitarwork is exactly the same, and so are the vocals. Nothing changes from song to song... I can barely tell when one song ends and the next starts. I also think that I've falsely said that I like the ramones more than the clash over the past few years... I think I liked the ramones more because they helped introduce me to punk and I liked them first... but I tend to like the clash's music better, and they were far more talented and more eclectic with their styles.

I just felt like saying that :P

IAmARevenant
08-19-2006, 07:39 AM
I just listened to the sex pistols' entire cd last night so that I could see what the deal is... I noticed that overall, they were mostly in tune (though I was able to pinpoint several spots where the bass was way off from the guitars)... but the biggest things that made it sound out of tune were the vocals, plus the music is just so muddled and messed up that it sounds painful to my ears and therefore out of tune.

I really think after giving it that listen that, other than the horrible vocals, the thing I dislike most about the SP is that their music is SOOOO boring and the songs all sound the same... the guitarwork is exactly the same, and so are the vocals. Nothing changes from song to song... I can barely tell when one song ends and the next starts. I also think that I've falsely said that I like the ramones more than the clash over the past few years... I think I liked the ramones more because they helped introduce me to punk and I liked them first... but I tend to like the clash's music better, and they were far more talented and more eclectic with their styles.

I just felt like saying that :P
Dude, I so agree!

JohnnyNemesis
08-19-2006, 07:59 AM
Once I saw that Lenny Kravitz was mentioned in a positive light, I couldn't continue reading.

T-6005
08-19-2006, 09:37 AM
Once I saw that Lenny Kravitz was mentioned in a positive light, I couldn't continue reading.
I like that American Woman song, and another one of his songs has a badass guitar part.

Other than that, though...

mrconeman
08-19-2006, 12:20 PM
I like that American Woman song, and another one of his songs has a badass guitar part.

Other than that, though...
American Woman is not his song, its a cover. The band who wrote it is called "Guess Who?" and their version is endlessly superior to Lenny's large display of utter gayness.

RickyCrack
08-19-2006, 03:29 PM
I once got to see the Guess Who live and it was so awesome I went into puberty again.

IAmARevenant
08-19-2006, 03:58 PM
American Woman is not his song, its a cover. The band who wrote it is called "Guess Who?" and their version is endlessly superior to Lenny's large display of utter gayness.
people have opinions dumbass.

RickyCrack
08-19-2006, 04:01 PM
people have opinions dumbass.

Except some are so gay it causes my eyes to bleed. Anybody who claims in any way shape or form that lenny kravitz is better than, equal to, or even remotley close to being as good as the Guess Who knows nothing about music and should probably relisten to their disturbed and korn albums.

Jakebert
08-19-2006, 04:07 PM
people have opinions dumbass.

You're just bitter because he won the argument.

mrconeman
08-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Except some are so gay it causes my eyes to bleed. Anybody who claims in any way shape or form that lenny kravitz is better than, equal to, or even remotley close to being as good as the Guess Who knows nothing about music and should probably relisten to their disturbed and korn albums.
You said that better than I could.


You're just bitter because he won the argument.
You said that better than I could.

IAmARevenant
08-20-2006, 08:06 AM
this whole argument is bullshit.

JohnnyNemesis
08-20-2006, 08:08 AM
You'e a fucking idiot.

Llamas
08-21-2006, 10:59 AM
Except some are so gay it causes my eyes to bleed. Anybody who claims in any way shape or form that lenny kravitz is better than, equal to, or even remotley close to being as good as the Guess Who knows nothing about music and should probably relisten to their disturbed and korn albums.

This is fact that should PLZ if the gods are willing, be set in stone. lenny kravitz is da sux0rz

IAmARevenant
08-23-2006, 06:58 AM
You'e a fucking idiot.
that's lotsa talk coming out of someone like you.

JohnnyNemesis
08-23-2006, 07:59 AM
Actually, it wasn't much talk at all. About four words; a pretty brief sentence.

Dumbass.

pretty fly 88
08-23-2006, 09:55 AM
What i think if the list would have done by cliches and by my opinion it would had all rock alternative bands it would go like this

1.The Beatles
2.Black Sabbath
3.Queen
4.Metallica
5.Rolling stones
6.Jimi Hendrix
7.AC/DC
8.Iron Maiden
9.Nirvana
10.u 2
11.Led Zeppelin (they were one only becouse of fucking stairway to heaven)
12.Gun's and roses
13.The ramones
14.Pink floyd
15.Deep purple
16.Ozzy Osbourne
17.The who
18.Bon jovi
19.Red hot chili peppers
20.The doors
21.Judas Priest
22.Slayer
23.Sex pistols
24.The Clash
25.Korn
26.Mötörhead
27.Venom
28.Kiss
29.Aerosmith
30.Van halen
31.Hanoi Rocks
32.Billy idol
33.Pantera
34.Scorpions
35.Faith no more
34.Joan Jett
35.The Offspring
36.Megadeath
37.Lynyrd Skynyrd
38.Green day
39.Marilyn Manson
40.Lenny Kravitz

I can see that the VH list was American couse there were so many bands that aren't in europe very famous, and there were many one hit wonders like steppenwolf and twisted sisters
This list is terrible. Good thing the VH1 didn't let you pick the list. Not that I agree with everything on their list but it's still better than this list.



By the way, Pink Floyd are not hard rock. The fact that they were on either list is one of the biggest jokes I've seen in my life. But I don't find it very funny.Pink Floyd are concept music, which is the exact opposite of hard rock. Classifying Pink Floyd as hard rock is just like classifying the Offspring as classical music, it is the exact opposite of the truth.

IAmARevenant
08-23-2006, 11:58 AM
This list is terrible. Good thing the VH1 didn't let you pick the list. Not that I agree with everything on their list but it's still better than this list.
hey, people have opinions dumbass.

Corpse
08-23-2006, 12:00 PM
hey, people have opinions dumbass.

Yer. But when their opinion is that bad, someone needs to say something.

Jakebert
08-23-2006, 01:30 PM
By the way, Pink Floyd are not hard rock. The fact that they were on either list is one of the biggest jokes I've seen in my life. But I don't find it very funny.Pink Floyd are concept music, which is the exact opposite of hard rock. Classifying Pink Floyd as hard rock is just like classifying the Offspring as classical music, it is the exact opposite of the truth.

They deserve to be on that list seeing as they're one of the most talented, influential bands of all time. They're a million times more important than shit like Nirvana and Def Leppard.


that's lotsa talk coming out of someone like you.

How is he dumber than you? Do you read your own posts?

Llamas
08-23-2006, 02:07 PM
well jakebert, you're correct pink floyd was far better than most of the other bands on the list, but it was still "hard rock bands", and therefore they shouldn't have been on there. however, calling pink floyd hard rock isn't even close to calling offspring classical. pink floyd has MUCH more in common with hard rock than the offspring has with the classical era.

even though iamarevanant likes to agree with me all the time, I can't take him seriously. his screen name is named after the distillers... that just says so much right there.

HornyPope
08-23-2006, 02:21 PM
Well hard rock didn't come to it's own until the 80s I think, so bits of Pink Floyd in the Wall, Final Cut and I think maybe Animals have gone a long way to inspire it, even if the music wasn't originaly of the same genre, much like the Beattles did with the White Album.

Llamas
08-23-2006, 02:26 PM
I suppose that's true... and then we get down to pins and needles arguing about genres and what bands fit in what genre... and pink floyd is one of those that could float arounds cause they were more eclectic in their styles. So I guess in the end, I don't really care that they were on that list cause atleast they were damn talented.

HornyPope
08-23-2006, 02:28 PM
There we agree.

Bad taste in food, but good taste in music... you're OK, I guess. Send me n00ds?

Llamas
08-23-2006, 02:37 PM
bad taste in food?? :( oh, cause I said I don't like most meat. Yeah, I guess that's weird... I get kinda grossed out by the fact that I'm eating muscle, and after going to body worlds, it really really grosses me out. :-/

IAmARevenant
08-23-2006, 04:27 PM
even though iamarevanant likes to agree with me all the time, I can't take him seriously. his screen name is named after the distillers... that just says so much right there.
you hate me because I like The Distillers? Oh yeah, that took muuuuuuuuuch thought and consideration. :rolleyes:

JohnnyNemesis
08-23-2006, 04:28 PM
You're an idiot.

Llamas
08-23-2006, 04:51 PM
you hate me because I like The Distillers? Oh yeah, that took muuuuuuuuuch thought and consideration. :rolleyes:
No, I don't hate you because you like the distillers. I said I can't take you seriously, and that's partially because of your screen name. Way to read.

IAmARevenant
08-23-2006, 09:49 PM
No, I don't hate you because you like the distillers. I said I can't take you seriously, and that's partially because of your screen name. Way to read.
okay then.

you can't take me seriously because my screen name is taken after a song of a band that you don't like. that's really stupid.

JohnnyNemesis
08-23-2006, 09:53 PM
It's not that she doesn't like them, it's that they're a universal joke.

If your reply is something about how everyone is entitled to their own opinion, don't bother posting it, because you're wrong.

Jakebert
08-24-2006, 10:52 AM
Well hard rock didn't come to it's own until the 80s I think, so bits of Pink Floyd in the Wall, Final Cut and I think maybe Animals have gone a long way to inspire it, even if the music wasn't originaly of the same genre, much like the Beattles did with the White Album.

That's kind of what I was getting at. Pink Floyd did more for hard rock than Jethro Tull ever did.

IAmARevenant
08-24-2006, 04:41 PM
It's not that she doesn't like them, it's that they're a universal joke.

If your reply is something about how everyone is entitled to their own opinion, don't bother posting it, because you're wrong.
you're even stupider than I thought.

like it or not, everyone has a different opinion. there's no universal acceptance that a band is a joke. It's an opinion thing.

I'M right, and YOU'RE wrong.

btw, if you post something like "no you're wrong. the disillers are a joke and my opinion rules overall" or something of that nature, then you will look so pathetic.

I'm done.

Llamas
08-24-2006, 04:49 PM
okay then.

you can't take me seriously because my screen name is taken after a song of a band that you don't like. that's really stupid.

wow... I don't dislike the distillers. I own one of their cds. I tend to think that song has horrible lyrics, though, and that their lyrics are a poor thing to take lyrics from. "I am a revenant". Are you really a revenant? Do you happen to know what a revenant is? Or do you just like the sound of the song? It seems to me like you chose the screen name to display how much you like the distillers. It's one step above making your screen name about the offspring. Hell, I'm annoyed by people on here who have offspring names, yet the offspring is my favorite band. I lost even more respect for you for assuming that the fact that I think your screen name sucks means I dislike the band.

IAmARevenant
08-24-2006, 04:59 PM
wow... I don't dislike the distillers. I own one of their cds. I tend to think that song has horrible lyrics, though, and that their lyrics are a poor thing to take lyrics from. "I am a revenant". Are you really a revenant? Do you happen to know what a revenant is? Or do you just like the sound of the song? It seems to me like you chose the screen name to display how much you like the distillers. It's one step above making your screen name about the offspring. Hell, I'm annoyed by people on here who have offspring names, yet the offspring is my favorite band. I lost even more respect for you for assuming that the fact that I think your screen name sucks means I dislike the band.
well, you should've said that before.

ooooooooooooookay, I Am A Revenant is a song that I've always been intrested in. It's about anger and hate and revenge. The true deffinition for the word Revenant is:

1. One that returns after a lengthy absence.
2. One who returns after death.

It's fucking obvious that Revenant is being used as a metaphor for someone who's been wronged and wants revenge.

I'm an angry guy usually, and I've been wronged many times, and I want revenge. So, metaphorically speaking, I am a revenant.

Endymion
08-24-2006, 07:13 PM
I'm an angry guy usually, and I've been wronged many times, and I want revenge. So, metaphorically speaking, I am a revenant.
oooh, did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

IAmARevenant
08-24-2006, 07:22 PM
oooh, did someone wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?
I never wake up on the right side of the bed............................................... ........................ever.

JohnnyNemesis
08-24-2006, 09:30 PM
you're even stupider than I thought.

like it or not, everyone has a different opinion. there's no universal acceptance that a band is a joke. It's an opinion thing.

I'M right, and YOU'RE wrong.

btw, if you post something like "no you're wrong. the disillers are a joke and my opinion rules overall" or something of that nature, then you will look so pathetic.

I'm done.

I never said that people didn't have opinions; I said that not all people are ENTITLED to theirs. Entitlement of opinion, in MY opinion (lololol) should be based on something other than blazing stupidity, which is what all of your opinions are based on.

Proceed to chug bleach, scumbag.

All About Eve
08-24-2006, 09:53 PM
bleach
lol so u think nirvana r da best 2?

JohnnyNemesis
08-24-2006, 09:55 PM
ya, nirvana numbr 1.

lawlz.

Jakebert
08-25-2006, 01:16 AM
you're even stupider than I thought.

like it or not, everyone has a different opinion. there's no universal acceptance that a band is a joke. It's an opinion thing.

I'M right, and YOU'RE wrong.

btw, if you post something like "no you're wrong. the disillers are a joke and my opinion rules overall" or something of that nature, then you will look so pathetic.

I'm done.

But if you can't back up your opinion with any argument other than "PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS!!!!!", than your opinion isn't important in any way, shape, or form.

IAmARevenant
08-25-2006, 08:19 AM
Like I've told you, I'm done. Everybody's happier that way.

Llamas
08-25-2006, 10:35 AM
well, you should've said that before.

ooooooooooooookay, I Am A Revenant is a song that I've always been intrested in. It's about anger and hate and revenge. The true deffinition for the word Revenant is:

1. One that returns after a lengthy absence.
2. One who returns after death.

It's fucking obvious that Revenant is being used as a metaphor for someone who's been wronged and wants revenge.

I'm an angry guy usually, and I've been wronged many times, and I want revenge. So, metaphorically speaking, I am a revenant.

well that was my point. you are representing yourself with a crappy negative angry distillers song. no respect for that.

bah, it's not worth it.

XYlophonetreeZ
08-25-2006, 12:25 PM
96 Meat Loaf
93 Lenny Kravitz
85 Whitesnake
83 King's X
79 Ratt
73 Twisted Sister
63 Boston
57 Heart
53 Korn
40 Stone Temple Pilots
35 Jane's Addiction
25 Cheap Trick
17 The Ramones
12 The Sex Pistols
11 Aerosmith
10 Kiss
9 Guns N' Roses
7 Van Halen
4 AC/DC


I just actually looked at the list for the first time. And the quoted bands are all either way too high or should not be on the list at all.