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Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Yeah, I searched and this thread didn't come up. Who do you think is the world's greatest drummer. Personally, I'm torn between Mike Portnoy and Neil Peart, but I think Peart pulls a bit ahead. Some close runner ups for me would be John Bonham (by far the cleanest drummer in the world) and Carmine Appice.



Oh, btw, if ANYONE says anyone from the following list, please die.

Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Atom Willard
Josh Freese
Tre Cool
Dave Grohl
Jon Dolmoyan
Joey Jordison (sp?) from Slipknot
Lars Ulrich

bd007h
03-24-2006, 06:10 PM
fine then, Danny Carey.

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:12 PM
He's good, phenomenal, actually, but he doesn't compare to Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy, Carmine Appice, and John Bonham.

0r4ng3
03-24-2006, 06:13 PM
Josh Fre--

oops.

Um...

Dave Mackintosh?

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:15 PM
Josh Fre--

oops.

Um...

Dave Mackintosh?

The name is familiar, but his works are escaping me at the moment... Who is he with?

0r4ng3
03-24-2006, 06:16 PM
Dragonforce's drummer since 2003-or-so.

Jakebert
03-24-2006, 06:16 PM
I don't know too much about drumming, but Keith Moon is one of the few drummers that make me really pay attention to the drumwork in the song instead of just let it fall into the background.

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:17 PM
Dragonforce's drummer since 2003-or-so.

Oh, okay. I'll have to check them out, then.

Throb'n'guzzle
03-24-2006, 06:17 PM
It's inexcusable that you forgot keith moon.

EDIT: whoops, already mentioned.

Jebus
03-24-2006, 06:25 PM
Brain is pretty cool.

Mike Portnoy
when did you see the light?

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:26 PM
Brain is pretty cool.

when did you see the light?

What are you talking about?

Jebus
03-24-2006, 06:29 PM
you know...the expression...not literally...I recall you used to not like Dream Theater.

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:30 PM
I'm not too into them, but I never said I didn't like them.

Jebus
03-24-2006, 06:31 PM
oh, okay. I just remember getting in argument with you about portnoy and I couldn't convince you.

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:31 PM
I highly doubt that was me. There are only 2 drummers i really argue about their skill: Dave Grohl and Tre Cool.

mrconeman
03-24-2006, 06:32 PM
keith moon, John Bonham.
And I certaintly dont know about best drummer in the world but I love Maiden's drummer Nicko Mcbrain + Matt Sorum of GnR/Velvet Revolver fame.

Jebus
03-24-2006, 06:41 PM
I highly doubt that was me. There are only 2 drummers i really argue about their skill: Dave Grohl and Tre Cool.
I could have sworn it was you. I think it was in Tripboy's thread about your hero. It got deleted because he got banned. You mentioned some drummer and then I posted a pic of Portnoy and his huge drum set and I said "Portnoy should be your hero." Then you thought I meant he was only better than everyone else because he has a huge drume set(I didn't meant that. That was simply is drumset.) Then we got into a small argument about something.

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 06:45 PM
I could have sworn it was you. I think it was in Tripboy's thread about your hero. It got deleted because he got banned. You mentioned some drummer and then I posted a pic of Portnoy and his huge drum set and I said "Portnoy should be your hero." Then you thought I meant he was only better than everyone else because he has a huge drume set(I didn't meant that. That was simply is drumset.) Then we got into a small argument about something.

Oh, I remember that now. I said that Mike portnoy is a phenomenal drummer, but I was simply making the point that a good drumset does not make a good drummer. You must have misread my posts.

Drummerguy123
03-24-2006, 08:09 PM
Dave? Have you heard his work in Probot? It's pretty good. Not the best in the world, but certainly really REALLY good.
yes I have, actually. I listened to what was supposedly some of his "best work" and I wasn't impressed at all.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-24-2006, 08:12 PM
John Bonham.

THANK you. At last.

coke_a_holic
03-24-2006, 08:34 PM
John Bonham is liege.

I also like whatsisname from Mr. Bungle and the guy from Catch 22.

All About Eve
03-24-2006, 09:16 PM
I have to go with Portnoy. And I like Queensryche's drummer a lot, although he isn't terribly special.

Sinister
03-24-2006, 09:24 PM
Portnoy gets my vote as well.

All About Eve
03-24-2006, 09:28 PM
Oh, what's his face from Agent Orange is pretty good.

offspring fan
03-25-2006, 02:42 AM
Ron Welty, Dave Grohl and Tyler Hawkins

offspringrammsteinfan
03-25-2006, 04:18 AM
I can't choose between:
Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Atom Willard
Josh Freese
Tre Cool
Dave Grohl
Jon Dolmoyan
Joey Jordison (sp?) from Slipknot

( :p )

Andy
03-25-2006, 04:39 AM
I vote Freese. Versatility is the key for a great drummer; And something he has got in abundance.


Oh, btw, if ANYONE says anyone from the following list, please die.

Josh Freese

Well, consider me dead. And dying in the knowledge that I was right.

TheUnholyNightbringer
03-25-2006, 04:59 AM
Whoever said the guy in Dragonforce right now - nope. He's fast, unbelievably fast, but it's like, hey, how about for this song I use masses of double bass, and snare? Like every other song? Yeah!

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 07:41 AM
Ron Welty, Dave Grohl and Tyler Hawkins

Tyler Hawkins is an incredible drummer, but he is nowhere close to the best in the world.




I vote Freese. Versatility is the key for a great drummer; And something he has got in abundance.

Well, consider me dead. And dying in the knowledge that I was right.

He is a great drummer as well, but he still doesn't compare to Peart, Portnoy, Appice, or Bonham.

All About Eve
03-25-2006, 07:59 AM
There's one guy that I know I'm missing and still can't think of. This is so annoying.

Mannen som blev en gris
03-25-2006, 08:50 AM
Scott Travis, Judas Priest. (http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H29JYOBV3HLM1Y138QB6PN3ST)

Revolver-2005?
03-25-2006, 08:50 AM
Josh Freese
Keith Moon
Scott Miller ( Agent Orange)
Brett Reed

Jebus
03-25-2006, 08:53 AM
oh, I completely forgot about Tomas Haake from Meshuggah. Seriously, those awesome polymeters...listen to them...omg


Whoever said the guy in Dragonforce right now - nope. He's fast, unbelievably fast, but it's like, hey, how about for this song I use masses of double bass, and snare? Like every other song? Yeah!
I agree. It's the same thing with a lot of punk bands. People think they're great drummers because play they same thing over and over quickly.

China Boy
03-25-2006, 09:03 AM
Terry Bozzio is extremely annoying and I hate him, but he's still a really good drummer. My personal favorite, though, is Daniel Svensson from In Flames.

notoriousdoc
03-25-2006, 12:37 PM
Glenn Porter, he's amazing

Demon_of_Debauchery
03-25-2006, 12:55 PM
Josh Freese
Atom Willard
Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Tre Cool
Matt Helders

bd007h
03-25-2006, 01:02 PM
Ron Welty, Dave Grohl and Tyler Hawkins

it's Taylor, not Tyler

coke_a_holic
03-25-2006, 01:04 PM
Josh Freese
Atom Willard
Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Tre Cool
Matt Helders
You should start saving up now. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Hooked-on-Phonics-Kit-Learn-to-Read-Level-1_W0QQitemZ9500517080QQcategoryZ102960QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem)

killer_queen
03-25-2006, 01:11 PM
It msut be Dave Lombardo for me. When I ignore all of those talented drummers in jazz bands.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 01:18 PM
You should start saving up now. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Hooked-on-Phonics-Kit-Learn-to-Read-Level-1_W0QQitemZ9500517080QQcategoryZ102960QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem)

Well said.

And there is one jazz drummer I forgot to mention that is incredible. Max Roach. Anybody ever heard of him?

Jebus
03-25-2006, 01:31 PM
When I ignore all of those talented drummers in jazz bands.
Well, I guess I sort of implied that too. Igonoring metal, I'll say Chad Wackerman is a great jazz drummer.

I always feel silly when I mention jazz because the only jazz music I listen to contain white people.

coke_a_holic
03-25-2006, 01:34 PM
That's because you're racist.

Jebus
03-25-2006, 01:36 PM
oh wait, Tony Macalpline from Planet X is black! See, I knew I wasn't racist! I totally have street credz now.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 01:38 PM
Well, I know I'm not racist! I mean, look at my black friend!

Demon_of_Debauchery
03-25-2006, 01:41 PM
You should start saving up now. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Hooked-on-Phonics-Kit-Learn-to-Read-Level-1_W0QQitemZ9500517080QQcategoryZ102960QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem)
I'm sorry I didn' read the first post and I would like to add Joey Jordinson and Nicko McBrain

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 01:44 PM
Oh, btw, if ANYONE says anyone from the following list, please die.

Joey Jordison

I'm sorry I didn' read the first post and I would like to add Joey Jordinson and Nicko McBrain

Need I say more?

nieh
03-25-2006, 02:01 PM
Travis Barker
Josh Freese


They're actually really fucking good. And like Andy said, Josh Freese has possibly the most range out of anyone.


I also like whatsisname from Mr. Bungle and the guy from Catch 22.

Danny Heifetz. And agreed, he's real good.

To add to the list:

Jason Caddell from the Dismemberment Plan
Tim "Herb" Alexander from Primus (Brain is probably, technically speaking, the better drummer. But he bores me and Tim = love)
Joey Baron from Naked City
I've also recently realized that Jack Irons is a fucking awesome drummer. Dunno if I'd call him one of the best though as I haven't heard too much by him.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 02:03 PM
I know that they are good. Both are fantastic, actually. They just don't even come close to best in the world and I thought I should mention those names because a bunch of idiots would say that they are the best because they haven't heard any real legendary drummers, just whoever is popular. You know what I mean.

Jebus
03-25-2006, 02:06 PM
Joey Baron from Naked City
yes, I completely forgot about this guy.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 02:07 PM
Damn. I haven't even heard of a lot of these guys. I should get out more...

Dmarques
03-25-2006, 02:48 PM
Lars Ulrich

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 02:49 PM
Lars Ulrich
No .

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 02:53 PM
Lars Ulrich

Wow. I need to edit my first post.

Dmarques
03-25-2006, 02:57 PM
Wow. I need to edit my first post.

holly shit!! :o :eek:
Don't beat me please!

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 02:59 PM
I simply advised people that posted a drummer on that list to die, I'm not going to beat anyone myself. Unless, of course, you want me too...

Dmarques
03-25-2006, 03:00 PM
I simply advised people that posted a drummer on that list to die, I'm not going to beat anyone myself. Unless, of course, you want me too...

wow...so..don't kill me!!

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 03:00 PM
o_O

Okay.......

Dmarques
03-25-2006, 03:03 PM
... :rolleyes: ...DAVE CHAVARRI

jacknife737
03-25-2006, 04:48 PM
Dave Grohl

special mention to:
Atom Willard
Travis Barker
Joe Sirois
Tre Cool

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 05:37 PM
Tre Cool
No .

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 08:52 PM
Eric Singer really knows how to beat the shit out of the drums.

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 08:56 PM
Yeah, I searched and this thread didn't come up. Who do you think is the world's greatest drummer. Personally, I'm torn between Mike Portnoy and Neil Peart, but I think Peart pulls a bit ahead. Some close runner ups for me would be John Bonham (by far the cleanest drummer in the world) and Carmine Appice.



Oh, btw, if ANYONE says anyone from the following list, please die.

Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Atom Willard
Josh Freese
Tre Cool
Dave Grohl
Jon Dolmoyan
Joey Jordison (sp?) from Slipknot
Lars Ulrich
Dave Grohl is a great drummer. And he's probably the only drummer ever that can also play the guitar and sing very well.

Jebus
03-25-2006, 09:02 PM
Dave Grohl is overrated in every instrument. Shawn Lane recorded piano, guitar, drums, saxaphone, bass, and every other instrument in his solo album by himself. He deserves way more credit than Dave Grohl.

coke_a_holic
03-25-2006, 09:10 PM
I know it's either love or hate with him, but I can not help but be in love with Beck. He's just a cool dude, not to mention ecclectic as hell. He rocks. He did everything for his albums except the samples (obviously).

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:32 PM
Dave Grohl is overrated in every instrument. Shawn Lane recorded piano, guitar, drums, saxaphone, bass, and every other instrument in his solo album by himself. He deserves way more credit than Dave Grohl.

OMFG!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!! Seriously, the only real talent Dave Grohl has is in his voice. He is a terrible drummer.

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 09:33 PM
OMFG!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!! Seriously, the only real talent Dave Grohl has is in his voice. He is a terrible drummer.
I wouldn't say terrible. More "painfully average".

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:35 PM
Dave Grohl

special mention to:
Atom Willard
Travis Barker
Joe Sirois
Tre Cool
No, no, no, no, and hell no.


Dave Grohl and Travis Barker, my opinion.

No and no.


Dave Grohl is a great drummer. And he's probably the only drummer ever that can also play the guitar and sing very well.

You've got to be shitting me! Do you seriously think that all drummers play only drums?

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:36 PM
I wouldn't say terrible. More "painfully average".

Well said.

<minus 10 lame points>

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 09:37 PM
You've got to be shitting me! Do you seriously think that all drummers play only drums?
Well, most of them do. There certainly aren't too many drummers that have drummed for, played for, and sang for as many bands as Dave Grohl has.

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 09:39 PM
Well, most of them do. There certainly aren't too many drummers that have drummed for, played for, and sang for as many bands as Dave Grohl has.
He dosen't mean professionally. In their spare time, i'm sure most drummers end up picking up at least the basics of guitar or something.

Also, if you play lots of suck, you still suck.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:42 PM
Also, if you play lots of suck, you still suck.

OMG! Minus another 10 lame points!!!

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 09:43 PM
Also, if you play lots of suck, you still suck.
Dave Grohl doesn't play lots of suck. He's pretty good at everything he does, and I'm pretty sure there isn't anybody on the forums who can honestly say that they can sing, play drums, and play guitar better than Dave Grohl.

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 09:44 PM
Dave Grohl doesn't play lots of suck. He's pretty good at everything he does, and I'm pretty sure there isn't anybody on the forums who can honestly say that they can sing, play drums, and play guitar better than Dave Grohl.
Maybe not all 3, but he's had a lot more time to practice.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:44 PM
Dave Grohl doesn't play lots of suck. He's pretty good at everything he does, and I'm pretty sure there isn't anybody on the forums who can honestly say that they can sing, play drums, and play guitar better than Dave Grohl.

I haven't had enough practice singing (but I am learning) and I haven't had time to learn guitar yet, but I can most definitely play drums better than Dave Grohl. That isn't exactly a large accomplishment, though.

bd007h
03-25-2006, 09:47 PM
Singing is more of a natural talent than a learned trait.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:48 PM
Singing is more of a natural talent than a learned trait.

Very true. But you can take voice lessons. I must admit, my voice has gotten a bit better this past year (but it still sucks). =P

bd007h
03-25-2006, 09:48 PM
I've gotten numerous compliments on my singing voice.

DeAtHsTaR
03-25-2006, 09:49 PM
OMFG!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!! Seriously, the only real talent Dave Grohl has is in his voice. He is a terrible drummer.
TERRIBLE??? Maybe nto the best out there, but there is no way he is terrible at drumming.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:49 PM
I've gotten numerous compliments on my singing voice.

*golf clap*

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 09:50 PM
but I can most definitely play drums better than Dave Grohl. That isn't exactly a large accomplishment, though.
I've never heard you drum, so I can't really argue with you, but I still doubt that you can drum better than Dave Grohl, since he does it professionally, and he's had way more time to practice than you. If you say that you can drum better than Dave Grohl, you better be able to prove it.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:50 PM
TERRIBLE??? Maybe nto the best out there, but there is no way he is terrible at drumming.

No, he was really bad. His beats were really all pretty much the same and they weren't hard at all. He is by far the most overrated drummer known to mankind. Even more than Ringo Starr and Tre Cool.

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 09:51 PM
Singing can be learned. You can sing well with a horrible sounding voice, because singing well is basically the ability to hit and sustain the notes you need. It might still sound like crap, but technically you'll be a decent singer.

(this was at nobody in particular, by the way)

DeAtHsTaR
03-25-2006, 09:51 PM
I haven't had enough practice singing (but I am learning) and I haven't had time to learn guitar yet, but I can most definitely play drums better than Dave Grohl. That isn't exactly a large accomplishment, though.
Still, the guy can play drums, guitar, bass, and sing well.

DeAtHsTaR
03-25-2006, 09:52 PM
I've gotten numerous compliments on my singing voice.
Haha, I can attest to this. (not that I'm any better)

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 09:53 PM
Singing is more of a natural talent than a learned trait.
That may be true, but it is still true that the more you sing, the better you become. I personally have a terrible singing voice, but it has improved a little bit with practice.

DeAtHsTaR
03-25-2006, 09:55 PM
No, he was really bad. His beats were really all pretty much the same and they weren't hard at all. He is by far the most overrated drummer known to mankind. Even more than Ringo Starr and Tre Cool.
You can't say his stuff with Probot was horrible, HORRIBLE drumming.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:55 PM
I've never heard you drum, so I can't really argue with you, but I still doubt that you can drum better than Dave Grohl, since he does it professionally, and he's had way more time to practice than you. If you say that you can drum better than Dave Grohl, you better be able to prove it.

The minute I have the opportunity to record my drumming, I will post it on here. But first, lemme give you a tab of a beat I wrote recently.

R= Ride Bell
S=Snare
B=Bass

R|X-X-XXXX-XX-XXX-|X-X-XXXX-XX-X-X-|
S|--o---o---o---o-|--o---o---o---o-|
B|ooo---ooo---ooo-|ooo---ooo---ooo-|

I am wroking on the bass part, so it is changing, but I think you get the idea.

EDIT: And for the bass, turn each 16th note into two 32nd notes. I didn't feel like writing it all out. And the tempo here is about the same as Session be The offspring. Maybe a little bit faster.

coke_a_holic
03-25-2006, 09:57 PM
You people need to learn that Dave Grohl isn't the only one that can do more than one thing. Beck has made plenty of cds just by using his own talent, and he did a whole lot more than just the standard instruments. I think he also did keyboard, sax, other brass, and random percussion instruments. He owns Grohl's boring tried-until-tired formulaic music.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:57 PM
You can't say his stuff with Probot was horrible, HORRIBLE drumming.

From all of the Probot I heard, it was definately nothing special. Ron Welty wrote better beats than that stuff.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 09:57 PM
You people need to learn that Dave Grohl isn't the only one that can do more than one thing. Beck has made plenty of cds just by using his own talent, and he did a whole lot more than just the standard instruments. I think he also did keyboard, sax, other brass, and random percussion instruments. He owns Grohl's boring tried-until-tired formulaic music.

I can pretty much say I love you now.

All About Eve
03-25-2006, 09:58 PM
Singing can be learned. You can sing well with a horrible sounding voice, because singing well is basically the ability to hit and sustain the notes you need. It might still sound like crap, but technically you'll be a decent singer.

(this was at nobody in particular, by the way)

That's basically me. I have a nasally voice, whether I'm singing through my nose or not, but I CAN hit pithces pretty well.

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 09:59 PM
The minute I have the opportunity to record my drumming, I will post it on here. But first, lemme give you a tab of a beat I wrote recently.

Ride Bell|X-X-XXXX-XX-XXX-|X-X-XXXX-XX-X-X-|
Snare |--o---o---o---o-|--o---o---o---o-|
Bass |ooo---ooo---ooo-|ooo---ooo---ooo-|

I am wroking on the bass part, so it is changing, but I think you get the idea.
I think there was a certian font that made tabs stop going off-center.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 10:00 PM
I think there was a certian font that made tabs stop going off-center.

Whatever. Just read each line individually and you will get the idea.

coke_a_holic
03-25-2006, 10:00 PM
Courier New should work.

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 10:03 PM
Why did you post the same thing twice? I think Drummerguy123 will get the message if you just post it once.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 10:03 PM
Courier New should work.

Done .

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 10:04 PM
They were both posted at the exact same time. Accident.

bd007h
03-25-2006, 10:04 PM
Ron Welty wrote better beats than that stuff.

Here's where you're wrong. Ron Welty never WROTE the drum beats

pretty fly 88
03-25-2006, 10:04 PM
You people need to learn that Dave Grohl isn't the only one that can do more than one thing. Beck has made plenty of cds just by using his own talent, and he did a whole lot more than just the standard instruments. I think he also did keyboard, sax, other brass, and random percussion instruments. He owns Grohl's boring tried-until-tired formulaic music.
Oh yeah, I forgot about Beck. And I'm sure there are plenty of people that can do more than one thing, it's just hard to name them.

Jebus
03-25-2006, 10:05 PM
so Probot contains Dave's best work? Bd, you have a link that album somwhere in your sig?

bd007h
03-25-2006, 10:05 PM
I'll upload it in a bit.

coke_a_holic
03-25-2006, 10:10 PM
Yay for making people sound psycho!

bd007h
03-25-2006, 10:12 PM
Probot (http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0INEZHB2H1VLJ2LRY28JOGF5ZM) .

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 10:16 PM
Here's where you're wrong. Ron Welty never WROTE the drum beats

lol. Forgot about that. But he still played them better than Dave Grohl could.

Jebus
03-25-2006, 10:16 PM
whoa, that was fast. You have that uber leet university internet, right?

bd007h
03-25-2006, 10:17 PM
yeah, probably

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 10:21 PM
Okay, back on topic. After all, this is a thread about the who is the best drummer in the world, not the most mediocre. Wait a minute, that doesn't make sense, does it? :confused:

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 10:22 PM
Okay, back on topic. After all, this is a thread about the who is the best drummer in the world, not the most mediocre. Wait a minute, that doesn't make sense, does it? :confused:
I think it does.

Brett, the first song just finished. This really isn't anything special.

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 10:28 PM
Actually, I don't think it's just the drums. Pretty much every part of the music is pretty cliche'd.

DeAtHsTaR
03-25-2006, 10:31 PM
Actually, I don't think it's just the drums. Pretty much every part of the music is pretty cliche'd.
Off topic, you do know that every song has a different vocalist right?

coke_a_holic
03-25-2006, 10:32 PM
On topic, you do know that it doesn't matter because he's only listening to one song, right?

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 10:34 PM
Actually, I ended up listening to about 5 songs, just to see if I was wrong. I really wasn't.

Jebus
03-25-2006, 10:36 PM
meh, I'm not liking it much so far but they get cool points because I just read this in wikipedia.

The video for the lead, "Shake Your Blood," features an appearance by 66 women from the Suicide Girls adult entertainment website.
I might as well post this live version of Dream Theater's Just Let Me Breathe (http://media.putfile.com/Dream-Theater---Just-Let-Me-Breathe) since I posted it another thread and the drumming is sex.

Jebus
03-25-2006, 10:40 PM
lol. Forgot about that. But he still played them better than Dave Grohl could.
someone tell me at least dexter created the drum beats not some random dude or else I'm gonna kill myself after reading that one thread in the general offspring chat forum.

That_Guy91
03-25-2006, 10:40 PM
someone tell me atleast dexter created the drum beats not some random dude or else I'm gonna kill myself after reading that one thread in the general offspring chat forum.
Don't worry, it was Dexter.

DeAtHsTaR
03-25-2006, 10:41 PM
someone tell me at least dexter created the drum beats not some random dude or else I'm gonna kill myself after reading that one thread in the general offspring chat forum.
Dexter wrote it.

Drummerguy123
03-25-2006, 10:42 PM
someone tell me at least dexter created the drum beats not some random dude or else I'm gonna kill myself after reading that one thread in the general offspring chat forum.

Don't worry. They still have a little bit of tru punx left in them.

That_Guy91
03-26-2006, 05:29 AM
That first list sucks. They put John Bonham way the hell in 48th.

Tha second one's better, but they Only mentioned A Perfect Circle for Josh Freese.

EDIT: Oh wait, never mind, the second list isn't that good either. Dave Grohl is above Travis Barker.

Mannen som blev en gris
03-26-2006, 07:21 AM
Scott Travis, Judas Priest. (http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H29JYOBV3HLM1Y138QB6PN3ST)
*cough cough*

(he owns)

Drummerguy123
03-26-2006, 07:23 AM
These are some pages about ''the best drummers'', What do you Think about the ranking?

http://www.scaruffi.com/music/drums.html

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html


Are so different each one...I remain with my own list. :cool:
Holy shit. Horrible lists. *pukes* The drummer for Yes isn't that good!

nieh
03-26-2006, 07:43 AM
Dave Grohl is far from being the most talented drummer out there...but some of his stuff does sound really cool. Plus he's a bit above average when it comes to mainstream stuff. For the QOTSA album and Killing Joke album he played on (based on the few tracks I heard from the Killing Joke one) his drumming was really entertaining. Not entirely difficult, but entertaining. And Grohl is only average at all the other instruments he plays. Though Probot did have a few moments that surprisde me guitar/bass-wise, most of those I ended up finding out were played by the guest vocalist or by someone like Kim Thyall.

Also, Jebus, the reason Probot sounds generic...it's kind of intentional. Every song is basically written in the style of some semi-underground 80s metal band, then he gets the singer from that band to write lyrics and sing over it. You shouldn't expect him to break new ground with something like that.

DeAtHsTaR
03-26-2006, 09:07 AM
These are some pages about ''the best drummers'', What do you Think about the ranking?

http://www.scaruffi.com/music/drums.html

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_drummers.html



Are so different each one...I remain with my own list. :cool:
How the hell is Neil Peart way down in 20th?

Drummerguy123
03-26-2006, 09:26 AM
How the hell is Neil Peart way down in 20th?

Exactly what I was thinking. Those are the worst lists ever.

grunge
03-26-2006, 10:06 AM
Dave Grohl and the drummer of Deep Purple

Drummerguy123
03-26-2006, 10:14 AM
Dave Grohl and the drummer of Deep Purple
How many times do I have to say it?
DAVE GROHL IS NOTHING SPECIAL!!!!!
He doesn't even compare to Neil Peart, Carmine Appice, Mike Portnoy, or John Bonham! :mad:

Drummerguy123
03-26-2006, 10:34 AM
But no one compares to those guys....

My point exactly.

Jebus
03-26-2006, 11:15 AM
*cough cough*

(he owns)
You listen to mine (http://www.offspring.com/forums/showpost.php?p=771548&postcount=117) and I'll listen to yours.

Yatesy
03-26-2006, 11:34 AM
One of the fastest drummers I've heard is the one for The Berzerker, it's really fast and apparently plays with 8 bass pedals or something stupid like that, shame the band wore stupid masks at some point. =\

Drummerguy123
03-26-2006, 11:35 AM
Okay, one thing really quick. Fast does not equal good. That is all. I hope you feel enlightened.

That_Guy91
03-26-2006, 11:36 AM
Okay, one thing really quick. Fast does not equal good. That is all. I hope you feel enlightened.
I think he knows. He probably just thought it was worth mentioning the guy.

Which it was, because now that 8 bass pedals thing has me baffled.

Drummerguy123
03-26-2006, 11:38 AM
I think he knows. He probably just thought it was worth mentioning the guy.

Which it was, because now that 8 bass pedals thing has me baffled.
Yeah, I have heard of 4 bass pedals, but 8 would be pointless.

That_Guy91
03-26-2006, 11:39 AM
Yeah, I have heard of 4 bass pedals, but 8 would be pointless.
How would any more than 2 work?

I Make SweetLove 2Nirvana
03-26-2006, 11:48 AM
Kurt Cobain 4 Shur!!!!!!

i dont even thikn kurt plays drums but i like it NEway!!!! ya!!!!!!111

Yatesy
03-26-2006, 11:53 AM
I think he knows. He probably just thought it was worth mentioning the guy.

Which it was, because now that 8 bass pedals thing has me baffled.

Exactly, I think he probably has 2 bass drums with 2 double bass pedals to each drum=8 pedal. I think thats how he does it anyway. It sounds alright I guess, but it does sound a bit computerised.

grunge
03-26-2006, 12:40 PM
i dont even thikn kurt plays drums but i like it NEway!!!! ya!!!!!!111


Kurt plays drums and he was good drummer.

By the way if you saw the video " Seasons in the sun " you had to see that Kurt played drums, Dave played bass and Krist played guitar

Nineteen Seventy Nine
03-26-2006, 12:45 PM
Kurt plays drums and he was good drummer.

By the way if you saw the video " Seasons in the sun " you had to see that Kurt played drums, Dave played bass and Krist played guitar

Well I never noticed/knew that. I actually found that interesting.

That_Guy91
03-26-2006, 01:52 PM
2 drums with two pedals each adds up to 4, dildohead.
He said two double pedals each. Which still makes no sense.

Drummerguy123
03-26-2006, 04:17 PM
Exactly, I think he probably has 2 bass drums with 2 double bass pedals to each drum=8 pedal. I think thats how he does it anyway. It sounds alright I guess, but it does sound a bit computerised.

2 x 2 = 4

The only way you could maybe do that is having the single foot double bass pedals (that nobody ever uses) and put the on two drums. The only way you could possibly get 8 pedals in is to do that, but have two basses behind each foot as well, which is completely ridiculous.

Andy
03-27-2006, 02:33 AM
Kurt plays drums and he was good drummer.
* played..

grunge
03-27-2006, 04:18 AM
Yes I'm lol

Yatesy
03-27-2006, 09:09 AM
I said 2 double pedals to each bass drum, as in 4 per drum. 2 x 4=8 Anyway he manages it somehow so yeah, why not play it like that.

Mannen som blev en gris
03-27-2006, 11:13 AM
You listen to mine (http://www.offspring.com/forums/showpost.php?p=771548&postcount=117) and I'll listen to yours.
Done. I did like the drumming. It was cool. I did NOT like the vocals. Ugh, can't that dude just SHUT THE FUCK UP?! His voice sucks! When is he (and the rest of the world) going to realise that? Now listen to mine. (http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H29JYOBV3HLM1Y138QB6PN3ST)

Singing can be learned. You can sing well with a horrible sounding voice, because singing well is basically the ability to hit and sustain the notes you need. It might still sound like crap, but technically you'll be a decent singer.
True. Blaze Bayley (Iron Maiden, mid-90s) isn't really the best vocalist, but since his voice is so kick-ass anyway, it doesn't matter (well, that's my opinion. far from everyone thinks the same).

Eddie
03-27-2006, 01:41 PM
I don't know which one is the best beacause I don't know anything really about drums but I like Scott Travis. I think he's one of the best.

Andy
03-27-2006, 02:47 PM
I said 2 double pedals to each bass drum, as in 4 per drum. 2 x 4=8 Anyway he manages it somehow so yeah, why not play it like that.
I think I speak for all drummers in this BBS when I say that that is bloody stupid.

rocketman
03-27-2006, 04:07 PM
Out of all the music I listen to, the best drummer I've heard is probably Brooks Wackerman [Bad Religion (two newest albums) & Suicidal Tendencies]. I know he's not the best drummer out there, but I still think he's a pretty good drummer.

Drummerguy123
03-27-2006, 08:30 PM
I think I speak for all drummers in this BBS when I say that that is bloody stupid.

It is stupid, but unfortunately, it is possible. I don't know why anyone would do it, though.

Yatesy
03-28-2006, 12:16 AM
It is stupid, but unfortunately, it is possible. I don't know why anyone would do it, though.

I don't see why it's so bad, honestly. If you like that kind of music and want to make that sort of music, why the hell not? Some people believe it or not think it sounds good. :eek:

Drummerguy123
03-28-2006, 04:12 PM
I don't see why it's so bad, honestly. If you like that kind of music and want to make that sort of music, why the hell not? Some people believe it or not think it sounds good. :eek:

It's not a matter of style. Nobody would hear the difference and you could play just as fast, or even faster by just playing the notes on your floor toms. If you really need that many bass pedals, you must be a horrible drummer because you can't fully utilize you floor tom(s) in that way.

Jebus
03-28-2006, 06:51 PM
Done. I did like the drumming. It was cool. I did NOT like the vocals. Ugh, can't that dude just SHUT THE FUCK UP?! His voice sucks! When is he (and the rest of the world) going to realise that? Now listen to
I know, it took me a while to get used to his voice even during a short time when they just barely became one of my favorite bands. I think his voice his great now and the band just wouldn't be the same without him.


mine. (http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1H29JYOBV3HLM1Y138QB6PN3ST)
The whole song is called Pain killer trummor, right? I want to download the rest because I started liking the guitar riff at the beginning. The drumming was cool. Half way through the thing, it started sounded a bit like something I heard before. I thought for a a few minutes and I remembered it kind of sounded like this Racer X intro (http://media.putfile.com/Racer-X---Catapult-to-Extinction)

btw, have you ever heard of this show called Allram Eest? WTF is is Yngwie Malmsteen doing talking to pupppets?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6961451020674246486&q
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4704525913156900419&q

Lithuanian Offspring
03-28-2006, 07:15 PM
I say Josh Freese, sorry, but he just plays so fast. The live performances are so cool with him.. But obviously I'm not a drummer so I wouldn't know.

Mannen som blev en gris
03-29-2006, 02:32 AM
The whole song is called Pain killer trummor, right? I want to download the rest because I started liking the guitar riff at the beginning. The drumming was cool.No, the song is called Painkiller, it's by Judas Priest. I just named it Painkiller trummor because trummor in Swedish = drums. I can upload the whole song later today, but I'm not at home right now.
Half way through the thing, it started sounded a bit like something I heard before. I thought for a a few minutes and I remembered it kind of sounded like this Racer X intro (http://media.putfile.com/Racer-X---Catapult-to-Extinction) Hah, you're awesome. Scott Travis was the drummer in Racer X before joining Priest, so it's not that surprising they sound the same (I'll listen to it when I get home).

btw, have you ever heard of this show called Allram Eest? WTF is is Yngwie Malmsteen doing talking to pupppets?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6961451020674246486&q
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4704525913156900419&q
Ah, yes... Allram. Yeah, that is (/was) some weird talkshow, but the host (Allram Est) is, well, a puppet. And I remember Yngwie was there once. I'll watch it when I get home.

Mannen som blev en gris
03-29-2006, 08:57 AM
Painkiller (http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HWMYRFKWXPAA3V0ACZ5213XQ6).

And I've never heard anything by Racer X before, but that song was cool. I, of course, liked the drumming.

And the Yngwie thing... well, they didn't really say much, but I realised something.... that laugh he (Allram) has... can it be some sort of a Letterman parody? I don't know.

endlesst0m
03-29-2006, 09:19 AM
It's not a matter of style. Nobody would hear the difference and you could play just as fast, or even faster by just playing the notes on your floor toms. If you really need that many bass pedals, you must be a horrible drummer because you can't fully utilize you floor tom(s) in that way.

What?!

Your not supposed to play bass drum notes on the floor tom, what are you talking about? It's a different sound, and you most likley need your hand to hit the snare during a double bass beat.

Drummerguy123
03-29-2006, 06:54 PM
What?!

Your not supposed to play bass drum notes on the floor tom, what are you talking about? It's a different sound, and you most likley need your hand to hit the snare during a double bass beat.

If you are a drummer, you obviously haven't had much experience. Most drummers will tune their floor tom(s) to sound lie their bass so they can do fills like that. It makes it a lot easier on the feet and it sounds just as good, if not better because it comes out sounding more relaxed.

Good drummers use this technigue a lot (and I am still working on perfecting it). It doesn't alter the sound and it makes everything much easier.

Andy
03-29-2006, 06:59 PM
If you are a drummer, you obviously haven't had much experience. Most drummers will tune their floor tom(s) to sound lie their bass so they can do fills like that. It makes it a lot easier on the feet and it sounds just as good, if not better because it comes out sounding more relaxed.

Good drummers use this technigue a lot (and I am still working on perfecting it). It doesn't alter the sound and it makes everything much easier.
I know that Dave Grohl does that. I read in an interview that he did that when he recorded the Probot drums, as he was too scared to use double-bass.

Fact.

That_Guy91
03-29-2006, 07:01 PM
I know that Dave Grohl does that. I read in an interview that he did that when he recorded the Probot drums, as he was too scared to use double-bass.

Fact.
Wow, what a douche.

Drummerguy123
03-29-2006, 07:01 PM
I know that Dave Grohl does that. I read in an interview that he did that when he recorded the Probot drums, as he was too scared to use double-bass.

Fact.

My point has been proven. Actually, two of my points have been proven. 1) people use toms for their double bass and 2) Dave Grohl is still nothing special.

guitarboy
03-29-2006, 07:11 PM
i think aerosmiths drummer would have to be the best drummer of all time

That_Guy91
03-29-2006, 07:11 PM
No .

Drummerguy123
03-29-2006, 07:23 PM
i think aerosmiths drummer would have to be the best drummer of all time


No

^What he said.

Andy
03-29-2006, 07:54 PM
i think aerosmiths drummer would have to be the best drummer of all time
You just can't get it right can you?

Drummerguy123
03-29-2006, 07:58 PM
You just can't get it right can you?

Doesn't look like it.

*resists urge to quote The Offspring*

Jebus
03-29-2006, 08:18 PM
Painkiller (http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HWMYRFKWXPAA3V0ACZ5213XQ6).

And I've never heard anything by Racer X before, but that song was cool. I, of course, liked the drumming.

And the Yngwie thing... well, they didn't really say much, but I realised something.... that laugh he (Allram) has... can it be some sort of a Letterman parody? I don't know.
That songs was pretty cool. I've been meaning to get into to them for a while but I've been to lazy(like always) to check them out more. However, I still think James Labrie has a better voice.

Racer X isn't usually instrumental. They have vocals and everything but that just happened to be an instrumental ending track. You should check these songs out. I think you'll like them.
Dr X (http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1Q8XRTS2JTL4R0XULEHGYZCYW3)
executioner song (http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0SK7ZT85K9E3938Z3ZJCLXALDG)
Golden God (http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24XAL3YZKAAZ22Q4TOI3OA43IX)
Bucket of Rocks (http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0YRDKEIUQ6XJY2N8SX7LK5Q28V)

endlesst0m
03-29-2006, 10:45 PM
If you are a drummer, you obviously haven't had much experience. Most drummers will tune their floor tom(s) to sound lie their bass so they can do fills like that. It makes it a lot easier on the feet and it sounds just as good, if not better because it comes out sounding more relaxed.

Good drummers use this technigue a lot (and I am still working on perfecting it). It doesn't alter the sound and it makes everything much easier.

I've never seen this done...ever. Why the hell wouldn't you just learn to use double bass? If you're doing fast double bass beats with your hands on the floor tom, obviously you would need both hands for that. This would tie up your hands, making them unable to do anything else around the set.

Drummerguy123
03-30-2006, 05:42 AM
I've never seen this done...ever. Why the hell wouldn't you just learn to use double bass? If you're doing fast double bass beats with your hands on the floor tom, obviously you would need both hands for that. This would tie up your hands, making them unable to do anything else around the set.

Only if you are a very unexperienced drummer. Whether you like it or not, this is a very widely-used technique in drumming. You are just going to have to accept that and move on.

mrconeman
03-30-2006, 06:07 AM
I like Tommy aldridge quite a bit...

http://www.eternalrandyrhoads.com/cleveland/09.mp3

endlesst0m
03-30-2006, 06:56 AM
Only if you are a very unexperienced drummer. Whether you like it or not, this is a very widely-used technique in drumming. You are just going to have to accept that and move on.

Maybe it's widely accepted if you suck, and can't learn to play double bass.

Find me a video of someone using this technique. Or an interview of someone claiming they use it.

Mannen som blev en gris
03-30-2006, 09:56 AM
That songs was pretty cool. I've been meaning to get into to them for a while but I've been to lazy(like always) to check them out more. However, I still think James Labrie has a better voice.
Ah, but that's because you haven't heard his best work. ;) If you want to I can upload a few more Priest songs.

And I thought the Racer X songs were a bit... I don't know. They were good, but nothing I would buy.

grunge
03-31-2006, 11:45 AM
By the way Larc Urlich from Metallika is very very good drummer

Never Gonna Find Me
03-31-2006, 01:14 PM
Keith Moon from The Who. :cool:

Drummerguy123
04-01-2006, 11:05 AM
Maybe it's widely accepted if you suck, and can't learn to play double bass.

Find me a video of someone using this technique. Or an interview of someone claiming they use it.

I don't have any videos of anyone using this technique, but only because I don't have any videos of any drummers. Besides, it was just said that Dave Grohl (even though he isn't that great) uses this technique. I do know, however, that Neil Peart and John Bonham have used this tecnique in several songs, and I am pretty sure neither of them have any trouble using double bass. Also, some of the best drummers at my school (believe me, they are way better than any of us will ever be. I am not kidding when I say that they are prodigies) use this a lot. This technigue is not really used for metal, but it is very useful with other forms of rock and different kinds of jazz. btw, are you even a drummer?

Drummerguy123
04-01-2006, 11:06 AM
By the way Larc Urlich from Metallika is very very good drummer

Yeah, I've pretty much given up on your taste in drummers.

Drummerguy123
04-01-2006, 11:24 AM
Lol he's not great but his double bass on ...And Justice For All was good through most of the album, especially Dyers Eve. He's nothing special, but he's not as bad as people make him out to be.

I dunno....double bass isn't very hard to learn/play. I know he's not terrible, but he is definitely nowhere close to best in the world. He is better than Dave Grohl, though...

endlesst0m
04-01-2006, 06:46 PM
I don't have any videos of anyone using this technique, but only because I don't have any videos of any drummers. Besides, it was just said that Dave Grohl (even though he isn't that great) uses this technique. I do know, however, that Neil Peart and John Bonham have used this tecnique in several songs, and I am pretty sure neither of them have any trouble using double bass. Also, some of the best drummers at my school (believe me, they are way better than any of us will ever be. I am not kidding when I say that they are prodigies) use this a lot. This technigue is not really used for metal, but it is very useful with other forms of rock and different kinds of jazz. btw, are you even a drummer?

Yeah, I'm a drummer. Only Drumline fuckers would use that technique. Those kids suck at drumset! Always!

Ok, maybe just most of the time.

http://www.purevolume.com/anguishinhereyes

That's me on drums. "Rembrandt" was just embarrasing,and i'd take it off the site if i could. John Stamos turned out ok. The timing isn't perfect, and my chops need some work, because i live in an apartment and NEVER get to play...but if you pay attention, you can tell i know what im doing with writing parts, at least.

Human
04-01-2006, 06:53 PM
JOHN BONHAM

Jakebert
04-01-2006, 07:26 PM
I know nothing about if Lars is a good drummer or not, but either way he was a waste of seman.

Drummerguy123
04-01-2006, 08:15 PM
Yeah, I'm a drummer. Only Drumline fuckers would use that technique. Those kids suck at drumset! Always!

Ok, maybe just most of the time.

http://www.purevolume.com/anguishinhereyes

That's me on drums. "Rembrandt" was just embarrasing,and i'd take it off the site if i could. John Stamos turned out ok. The timing isn't perfect, and my chops need some work, because i live in an apartment and NEVER get to play...but if you pay attention, you can tell i know what im doing with writing parts, at least.

You have never been on a drumline before, have you? I can tell you right now that it improved my drumset capabilities by at least 600%. Drumline makes you better ay any style of percussion. I don't care what it is. It perfects you timing, makes you play cleaner, build you chops a hell of a lot, and it also builds discipline, even though you don't really need it in drumset playing. And I'll listen to your recording later. I've gotta go to bed soon and if I play it now, it'll wake up my whole family.

endlesst0m
04-01-2006, 10:24 PM
You have never been on a drumline before, have you? I can tell you right now that it improved my drumset capabilities by at least 600%. Drumline makes you better ay any style of percussion. I don't care what it is. It perfects you timing, makes you play cleaner, build you chops a hell of a lot, and it also builds discipline, even though you don't really need it in drumset playing. And I'll listen to your recording later. I've gotta go to bed soon and if I play it now, it'll wake up my whole family.

I played in the Pit in Marching Band. The only thing drumline does is force kids to workout thier wrists a lot so they can play really really fucking fast. It doesn't directly make them more creative on drumset.

Drummerguy123
04-02-2006, 12:32 PM
I played in the Pit in Marching Band. The only thing drumline does is force kids to workout thier wrists a lot so they can play really really fucking fast. It doesn't directly make them more creative on drumset.

Your drumline must have been terrible then, because my drumline has improved everything for me.

EDIT: And your link is not working for me. The page comes up, but I can't get anything to play.

skiddles824
04-02-2006, 12:36 PM
Travis Barker is the best drummer in the fucking world :D :D

Conspiracy of One
04-02-2006, 12:38 PM
Travis Barker is the best drummer in the fucking world :D :D
Sorry, the correct answer would be John Bonham. Try again sometime!

Drummerguy123
04-02-2006, 12:39 PM
Travis Barker is the best drummer in the fucking world :D :D





Oh, btw, if ANYONE says anyone from the following list, please die.

Travis Barker


'nuff said.

endlesst0m
04-02-2006, 01:15 PM
Sorry, the correct answer would be John Bonham. Try again sometime!

Who says the best drummer in the world is one that made it with a succesful band?

Drummerguy123
04-02-2006, 01:18 PM
Who says the best drummer in the world is one that made it with a succesful band?

I don't think he is the best in the world, but he was definitely one of the top 5 best drummers of all time.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 12:31 PM
I'm bumping this because I recently came to a conclusion:



John Dolmoyan > Travis Barker



I just didn't feel like creating a whole new thread for this.

Luriden
04-30-2006, 12:43 PM
It's hard to say. There's tons of drummers that are talented, but the amount of skill shown by the drummer depends on the speed and heaviness of the song.

I don't have a favorite, but the drummer from Matchbook Romance is one of the best drummers I've heard in awhile. I bought Stories & Alibis and while the album is mediocre at best, the drumming definitely stands out.

DeAtHsTaR
04-30-2006, 01:44 PM
These guys are my favs.

Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Atom Willard
Josh Freese
Tre Cool
Dave Grohl
Jon Dolmoyan
Joey Jordison (sp?) from Slipknot
Lars Ulrich

That_Guy91
04-30-2006, 01:59 PM
I'm bumping this because I recently came to a conclusion:



John Dolmoyan > Travis Barker



I just didn't feel like creating a whole new thread for this.
Dude, even I could have told you that.

Luriden
04-30-2006, 03:52 PM
John Dolmayan is pretty good. Too bad Serj's vocals make me want to shoot myself. Seriously, it just spoils everything for me.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 06:10 PM
It's hard to say. There's tons of drummers that are talented, but the amount of skill shown by the drummer depends on the speed and heaviness of the song.



Holy shit. You couldn't be more wrong. The best drumming in the world, by far, is jazz drumming, and that's not heavy at all. Besides, Led Zeppelin and Rush were never too heavy and they Neil Peart and John Bonham are two of the world's greatest.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 06:11 PM
These guys are my favs.

Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Atom Willard
Josh Freese
Tre Cool
Dave Grohl
Jon Dolmoyan
Joey Jordison (sp?) from Slipknot
Lars Ulrich

Don't be stupid.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 06:11 PM
John Dolmayan is pretty good. Too bad Serj's vocals make me want to shoot myself. Seriously, it just spoils everything for me.

Wow. His vocals are my favorite part of SOAD.

bd007h
04-30-2006, 06:19 PM
Have I mentioned Jeremy Taggart yet?

Thomas
04-30-2006, 06:26 PM
Have I mentioned Jeremy Taggart yet?

Who is he with?

bd007h
04-30-2006, 06:32 PM
Our Lady Peace

Thomas
04-30-2006, 06:40 PM
hmmmm......Do you have any of their albums uploaded? I'll have to check them out.

coke_a_holic
04-30-2006, 06:46 PM
Holy shit. You couldn't be more wrong. The best drumming in the world, by far, is jazz drumming, and that's not heavy at all. Besides, Led Zeppelin and Rush were never too heavy and they Neil Peart and John Bonham are two of the world's greatest.
All I can say is: yay!

Jazz in general is the pwns.

bd007h
04-30-2006, 06:49 PM
hmmmm......Do you have any of their albums uploaded? I'll have to check them out.

I could put up a few. Have you heard of Elvin Jones? He had a guest appearance on the last song on OLP's 3rd album.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 06:50 PM
I could put a few up. Have you heard of Elvin Jones? He had a guest appearance on the last song on OLP's 3rd album.

Can't say I have. I would love to hear some of OLP's work, though. Could you hook me up?

Coke- Damn straight

bd007h
04-30-2006, 06:53 PM
Elvin Jones was a Jazz soloist drummer that died a few years ago.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 06:57 PM
Elvin Jones was a Jazz soloist drummer that died a few years ago.

Nope. Never heard of him. There were so many great jazz drummers, though, it's hard to keep track of them all. My favorite, btw, is Max Roach.

coke_a_holic
04-30-2006, 07:03 PM
Max Roach is AMAZING.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 07:05 PM
I have his album, Survivors, and I pretty much passed out upon hearing Survivors (the title track).

bd007h
04-30-2006, 07:15 PM
Here's OLPs first 2 albums:

Naveed (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=03DFCE773FA1684F)

Clumsy (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E4AEC1A3731DBE0A)

I'll put up their 3rd and 4th albums in a bit.

Thomas
04-30-2006, 07:18 PM
Here's OLPs first 2 albums:

Naveed (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=03DFCE773FA1684F)

Clumsy (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E4AEC1A3731DBE0A)

I'll put up their 3rd and 4th albums in a bit.

Cool. Thanks!

bd007h
04-30-2006, 07:37 PM
Happiness... Is Not a Fish You Can Catch (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=12C043AE2B2FE7E3)

Spiritual Machines (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=436509AC1B2A846A)

the 5th and 6th albums are coming up next.

bd007h
04-30-2006, 07:59 PM
Gravity (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=1C9E55DD7CB45F8D)

Healthy In Paranoid Times (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F95B99FB40926EB5)

a few rarities (http://www.sendspace.com/file/gpk8a2)

Jebus
04-30-2006, 08:11 PM
All I can say is: yay!

Jazz in general is the pwns.
I have whored Chad Wackerman yet? No? K, thanks for telling me. I'll whore him a bit then.
http://media.putfile.com/Chad-Wackerman---Across-the-Bridge
http://media.putfile.com/Chad-Wackerman---Bash
http://media.putfile.com/Chad-Wackerman---Flares

Thomas
04-30-2006, 10:30 PM
Gravity (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=1C9E55DD7CB45F8D)

Healthy In Paranoid Times (http://beta.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=F95B99FB40926EB5)

a few rarities (http://www.sendspace.com/file/gpk8a2)

haha. Cool. Thanks a lot! I'll have to download them later, though. I don't have enough time right now. =/

bd007h
05-01-2006, 10:15 AM
no problem.

bd007h
05-02-2006, 09:59 PM
Thomas, have you listened to any OLP yet?

Thomas
05-02-2006, 10:00 PM
Sorry. I haven't had a chance yet. I haven't been on my home computer in a few days. Hopefully I will tonight.

bd007h
05-02-2006, 10:04 PM
ok. If any of the uploads expire before you get the chance to download them, let me know and I'll reupload them.

Thomas
05-02-2006, 10:06 PM
Okay. Thanks. I'll most likely get to them tomorrow night.

Never Gonna Find Me
05-03-2006, 10:17 AM
Keith Moon - The Who.

No more needs to be said.

Pot Noodles
05-03-2006, 10:25 AM
Hes a funny guy, but Ive never seen/heard him do anything to make me think hes the worlds best. :/

Never Gonna Find Me
05-03-2006, 12:50 PM
Hes a funny guy, but Ive never seen/heard him do anything to make me think hes the worlds best. :/What Keith Moon?

Skitt
05-03-2006, 02:22 PM
uuhm...Phil Collins

nieh
05-03-2006, 04:12 PM
woo, yes! Tim is amazing. Brain is.. well.. interesting... no, he's not. His drumming is very boring... but Tim, man, he fits perfectly with Primus. Did you know he was with the Blue Man Group for awhile? And he has a dvd out.. I'm thinking of buying it, but I haven't really checked to see exactly what's in it.


He was with Blue Man Group? That surprises me a lot more than it probably should. I'll have to look into that.

Huh. Apparently he was also the original drummer for A Perfect Circle.

Thomas
05-03-2006, 10:04 PM
uuhm...Phil Collins
No. Just, no.

That_Guy91
05-04-2006, 03:07 AM
I just wanted to mention that, as far as punk drummers go, Eric Kane (Strike Anywhere) is pretty underrated.

offspringer24
05-04-2006, 07:03 AM
dave grohl is VERY overated so to is tre cool(who's name shouldnt even be in this thread) my personal opinion is josh freese with absolutely no doubt what so ever, versatile,energetic and always coming up with new tricks!

Pot Noodles
05-04-2006, 07:12 AM
What Keith Moon?


Yep, that's who.

Never Gonna Find Me
05-04-2006, 08:32 AM
Yep, that's who.Seriously? I think he is incredible. My uncle knew him quite well. And in my opinion he will remain my favourite drummer of all time.

But it's your opinion too.

Pot Noodles
05-04-2006, 08:40 AM
Oh, I can see how he'd be your favorite drummer, great stage presence and being part of the Who, he had great songs to play etc. I just meant through plain technique there are better drummers.

bd007h
05-04-2006, 12:35 PM
I mentioned him earlier, but I just thought I'd post some pics of Jeremy Taggart:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/3483/jeremy3.jpg

http://www.canadianmusician.com/olpdrum.jpg

http://www.ourladypeaceuk.com/profimage/jeremy/jer023.jpg

He's got glasses like Noodles :D

bd007h
05-04-2006, 06:51 PM
dave grohl is VERY overated so to is tre cool(who's name shouldnt even be in this thread) my personal opinion is josh freese with absolutely no doubt what so ever, versatile,energetic and always coming up with new tricks!

did you read the first post in this thread?

Thomas
05-04-2006, 06:54 PM
I mentioned him earlier, but I just thought I'd post some pics of Jeremy Taggart:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/3483/jeremy3.jpg

http://www.canadianmusician.com/olpdrum.jpg

http://www.ourladypeaceuk.com/profimage/jeremy/jer023.jpg

He's got glasses like Noodles :D

Man, his resemblance to that guy from Weezer is shocking.

bd007h
05-04-2006, 06:57 PM
haha, yeah, Rivers Cuomo

oooh eeeh oooh he looks just like Buddy Holly

Thomas
05-04-2006, 07:00 PM
haha, yeah, Rivers Cuomo

oooh eeeh oooh he looks just like Buddy Holly

Yeah, that's his name. I didn't know what it was, but I don't care bout that...

bd007h
05-04-2006, 07:03 PM
but I don't care bout that...

haha. way to finish of the lyrics :D

Thomas
05-04-2006, 07:04 PM
I was hoping someone would catch that....

bd007h
05-04-2006, 07:05 PM
Can't get anything about Weezer past me. First rock band I was ever into. The Blue album was the first CD I ever owned. Got it back in 1994.

Mr. Noodles
05-04-2006, 07:11 PM
Good old Weezer!
And sorry, but I've got to say it!
I don't care what they say about us anyway
No, I don't care about that

That_Guy91
05-04-2006, 07:16 PM
I want to kick Weezer in their special goodness.

Ninty Man
05-04-2006, 07:43 PM
Yeah, I searched and this thread didn't come up. Who do you think is the world's greatest drummer. Personally, I'm torn between Mike Portnoy and Neil Peart, but I think Peart pulls a bit ahead. Some close runner ups for me would be John Bonham (by far the cleanest drummer in the world) and Carmine Appice.



Oh, btw, if ANYONE says anyone from the following list, please die.

Travis Barker
Ron Welty
Atom Willard
Josh Freese
Tre Cool
Dave Grohl
Jon Dolmoyan
Joey Jordison (sp?) from Slipknot
Lars Ulrich

*Ninty Dies for thinking that Atom Willard and Josh Freese are the best drummers... forgive him... it's ignorant

endlesst0m
05-04-2006, 09:02 PM
Josh Fresee is one of the best in the world. Or at least it's very likely.

It's hard to tell how good a drummer is just by thier album work,but Josh writes and plays everything he does perfectly.

Thomas
05-04-2006, 09:20 PM
Josh Fresee is one of the best in the world. Or at least it's very likely.

It's hard to tell how good a drummer is just by thier album work,but Josh writes and plays everything he does perfectly.

Oh, don't get me wrong, he is a phenomenal drummer. Probably one of the best in the world. He just doesn't compare to greats such as Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy, Max Roach, John Bonham, and Carmine Appice.

bd007h
05-04-2006, 09:21 PM
Listen to any OLP yet, Thomas?

Thomas
05-04-2006, 09:28 PM
I listened to a few songs. It was pretty good. Not my style, but I could grow to like them.

bd007h
05-04-2006, 09:30 PM
listen to the songs Clumsy and Superman's Dead. Probably their two best songs. I heard clumsy once and had to buy the album because It's just that awesome of a song.

Thomas
05-04-2006, 10:03 PM
haha. i'll have to listen to those, then.

EDIT: Am I lame if I give my own thread a rating of 5 stars?

That_Guy91
05-05-2006, 03:28 AM
EDIT: Am I lame if I give my own thread a rating of 5 stars?
Don't worry, you'll never beat me in any lame-offs.

Thomas
05-05-2006, 06:41 AM
Don't worry, you'll never beat me in any lame-offs.

True, true...

endlesst0m
05-05-2006, 10:46 AM
Oh, don't get me wrong, he is a phenomenal drummer. Probably one of the best in the world. He just doesn't compare to greats such as Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy, Max Roach, John Bonham, and Carmine Appice.

It might be true, but how do you know for sure? Unlike Freese, all those drummers you mentioned are in progressive rock bands. Progressive rock allows drummers to have much more room for 8 beat long fills, ridiculous offbeats and such.

A drummer like Ron Welty could be deemed not as good as all the drummers you mentioned based on his album work (and live performances) because you can hear him play less consistently then the other drummers mentioned on the very albums themselves, or live. However, this is not the case with Freese. So I say...you really don't know for sure wether Freese is as good as those other drummers or not, because (as far as I'm concerned, even though it is arguable) he's done everything he's attempted perfectly.

Never Gonna Find Me
05-05-2006, 12:40 PM
Also, Bill Ward. :D Incredible. And I have to say happy birthday as it's his 58th. :D

Thomas
05-05-2006, 09:26 PM
It might be true, but how do you know for sure? Unlike Fresee, all those drummers you mentioned are in progressive rock bands. Progressive rock allows drummers to have much more room for 8 beat long fills, ridiculous offbeats and such.

A drummer like Ron Welty could be deemed not as good as all the drummers you mentioned based on his album work (and live performances) because you can hear him play less consistently then the other drummers mentioned on the very albums themselves, or live. However, this is not the case with Fresee. So I say...you really don't know for sure wether Fresee is as good as those other drummers or not, because (as far as I'm concerned, even though it is arguable) he's done everything he's attempted perfectly.

You have obviously never heard an Appice drum solo. He is credited with inventing the use of double bass in rock music and is very well known for his insane beats to be consistently in 7/8 or 9/8 time. And Carmine Appice is not a progressive rock drummer. He is a studio drummer, like Freese. Over the years, he has worked with bands like Vanilla Fudge, Pink Floyd, Sting, and many MANY more that I can't think of right now. I'll upload one of his short, instructional solos later.

bd007h
05-05-2006, 09:35 PM
How about Zak Starkey? Ringo Star's son. He's the current drummer for Oasis and The Who.

Jebus
05-05-2006, 09:40 PM
A drummer like Ron Welty could be deemed not as good as all the drummers you mentioned based on his album work (and live performances) because you can hear him play less consistently then the other drummers mentioned on the very albums themselves, or live. However, this is not the case with Fresee. So I say...you really don't know for sure wether Fresee is as good as those other drummers or not, because (as far as I'm concerned, even though it is arguable) he's done everything he's attempted perfectly.
wtf? how could possibly judge someone on what he hasn't done or on what you think he could potentially do but hasn't shown anyone. Hey, maybe he could do what those other drummers Thomas mentioned, but why does that matter if you haven't seen it. It's like saying "I think Tom Delonge could play just as well has Steve Vai just because I believe he could even though I haven't seen him ever play like that ." or "I can lift a 2 ton car off a person if I wanted to but I've never gotten the chance."

EDIT: I hate everyone for not checking out my awesome Chad Wackerman songs.

coke_a_holic
05-05-2006, 09:48 PM
wtf? how could possibly judge someone on what he hasn't done or on what you think he could potentially do but hasn't shown anyone. Hey, maybe he could do what those other drummers Thomas mentioned, but why does that matter if you haven't seen it. It's like saying "I think Tom Delonge could play just as well has Steve Vai just because I believe he could even though I haven't seen him ever play like that ." or "I can lift a 2 ton car off a person if I wanted to but I've never gotten the chance."

EDIT: I hate everyone for not checking out my awesome Chad Wackerman songs.
I'm in mid-listen of them!