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wheelchairman
05-26-2006, 07:59 AM
Feel free to move this to the politics forum if it's more relevant there.

I've watched Robocop a few times recently. And the more I watch it, the harder I find it to beliewve that it wasn't written by socialists.

The basic plot consists lies in the fact that the city of Detroit has become so poor, that it's needed to privatize it's police force to a larger corporation. Under the department "Security Concepts" the corporation starts trying to run the police force efficiently. At first we see that there initial ideas involve a Robot Cop named ED-209. However due to faulty programming of some kind, ED-209 ends up killing an innocent man who was present at the introductory board meeting of this robot.

http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/Aliens_papirove_modely/wip/pics/robocop.jpg
ED-209. A very bad robot!

The old CEO of the company, who despite being the leader of this ruthless company, comes off as a kindly old man, and rejects this project, in favor of a cyborg cop project that was created by another company executive.

This company executive has placed certain cops in high-risk areas, so that one of them would eventually get fatally wounded while on duty, and then the company could use his body for the cyborg cop (RoboCop). Which would incorporate his years of police training and expertise, with a robot's strength and analytical abilities.

The cop who is eventually used is named Murphy, and was killed by drug-dealing gangsters in an industrial area.

When Murphy is "re-activated" things seem normal. However he starts having flash backs of his previous life, particularly the final moments, where he witnesses his death over and over again. So he goes out to find the culprits, and in the process he finds out that the culprits are linked to executive officers in the company itself. When Murphy tries to straighten this out, we discover his secret 4th directive, which is to never arrest any executive officer of the company.

Effectively completing a circle. Those who control the police force are free from the law. As we can see when the police force is privatized. It's a great and subtle commentary on the correlation between the Rule of Law and the Police Authority in a state.

http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/robocop/robo_dickjones.jpg
The bad company exec, and his protege, ED-209. He is one of the representatives of ruthless corporate greed in this film.

Eventually RoboCop gathers enough evidence to prove that certain key members of the company are connected to illegal drug gangs. And when the CEO sees this he fires the Executive Officers responsible, which enables Robocop to do justice.

Some of the details should be noticed in RoboCop. There is a running theme of a tv show for instance, where a sleazy man is surrounded by two beautiful women, and his punch line usually ends up being "I'd buy that for a dollar!". Referring to the women. The punchline seemingly comes on screen randomly. It could be a symbol of the dumbed down media industry and it's connection towards corrupt industries, or whatever. Perhaps it just appears right before a really cool action scene.

The rampant consumerism is another key future, one of the hottest cars on the market, is the 6000 SUX. If you never saw it written down, you can now see that the model of the car is homophonic with the word "sucks."

Now the great thing about RoboCop is that it's not too exagerrated. Not all CEO's are pure evil. As we see in this film, the CEO helps RoboCop take care of the "evil doers" inside the company. But it shows a possible scenario of corporate corruption and the possibilities that are linked to corporate corruption and the process of privatization in traditionally public sectors (the company had dealt profitably with privatized hospitals and prisons before it started with police forces.) America has dealt with private prisons before, I don't know when the first one opened, but I believe it was not long before Robocop. However a google search didn't really give any leads for this.

http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/robocop/robocop2oldmana.jpg
The kind old man and CEO of the company.

It's an interesting thought though.

Not to mention, some really neat action scene. Like when Murphy's arm is blown off. Or when Robocop walks out of a flaming gas station shooting. Or when a man disfigured by toxic chemicals splatters against one of the "bad guys" windshields. You do not see this kind of awesome action in modern action films. Robocop is awesome.

Notes on the sequels:
Robocop II is fucking terrible. The kind old man turns pure evil. And there is some new drug on the market called "nuke." Which is distributed by the leader of some cult. One of the drug dealers is an 8 year old boy, who is also evil. And they kill a lot of people for some reason. Then the leader of the cult dies and turns into a new robocop. Except shockingly enough, he's still evil. This film sucks and isn't coherent in the least bit.

http://www.robocoparchive.com/art/Poster2-3.JPG
This film sucked.

Robocop III is not as bad as number II, but not as good as the original. The company has finished building a privatized city. But in the process it shipped a lot of people off on trains. The guards where a 3-pronged swastika and the nazi references are noticeable. Eventually a gang of guerillas stop the corporation from ruining everything. And there is a lot of gay and boring speeches. One of the neat things is the CEO. He is the same actor as the DodgeBall coach Patches O'houlihan from the movie Dodgeball. And there is a neat ninja robot too. And Robocop flies. However the film just sucks. It's unrealistic, and there is needless and inexplicable corporate violence. (The privatized police force in one scene takes to pointlessly threatening little girls. Like wtf?

EDIT: Next review, Stargate! (also socialist propaganda.)

Tizzalicious
05-26-2006, 09:43 AM
Robocop 3 sucked big time, the only reason you could stand it was because you just saw 2 probably, though if that was even worse than 3, I can't imagine how bad that was. I still hate you for making me watch that.

Sin Studly
05-26-2006, 09:55 AM
All the robocops suck.

Tizz, you should totally dump Per and hook up with me. I'll only make you watch The Proposition and Chopper.

wheelchairman
05-26-2006, 09:58 AM
Robocop is awesome. It's so much more graphic than today's actions films. It's hilarious.

Tizzalicious
05-26-2006, 10:04 AM
Justin, the first one wasn't all that bad. Now he wants to watch Stargate with me though, so I might just take up on your offer, because that's just too much.

nieh
05-26-2006, 11:44 AM
Justin, the first one wasn't all that bad. Now he wants to watch Stargate with me though, so I might just take up on your offer, because that's just too much.

Stargate's actually pretty decent from what I remember of it. I haven't seen it in a long time though so I'm not entirely sure on the socialist propaganda thing but I'd be willing to buy it.

Revolver-2005?
05-26-2006, 01:46 PM
He is the same actor as the DodgeBall coach Patches O'houlihan from the movie Dodgeball.

Thats Rip Torn, and that's funny because he's a conservative.


But I see your connections there, very interesting.

Sin Studly
05-26-2006, 10:21 PM
Justin, the first one wasn't all that bad. Now he wants to watch Stargate with me though, so I might just take up on your offer, because that's just too much.

Holy fuck. I retract my offer, I'm not playing Mr. Higgins to horribly abused damaged-goods like you. Stargate for fucks sake, holy shit. Stargate! I wish you all the best in the future, and remember that abuse like this can reduce murder to manslaughter without even going to trial.

(PS ; Please tell me it's the movie, not the TV series. At least the movie ends)

(PPS ; I pray for you)

Tizzalicious
05-26-2006, 10:29 PM
I'm not gonna watch it!

And it's the movie yes. I think.

Now he was talking about buying some Star Trek boxset thing when he gets paid though. I hope he gets fired.

Not Ozymandias
07-01-2006, 09:28 AM
I'll buy that for a dollar.


(so I'm late, blow me)

mrconeman
07-01-2006, 09:37 AM
Jack Bauer pwn'd Robocop in 24.

Not Ozymandias
07-01-2006, 09:39 AM
Keifer Sutherland couldn't pwn anyone unless he had a step-ladder.

wheelchairman
12-13-2006, 10:03 AM
Jack Bauer pwn'd Robocop in 24.

You're an idiot.

mrconeman
12-13-2006, 10:11 AM
Anyone taking that in the slightest bit serious is the idiot, idiot.

Venom Symbiote
12-13-2006, 02:39 PM
Point 1: Chopper is a shitty movie.

Point 2: Robocop (original) rocks.

Paint_It_Black
12-13-2006, 07:01 PM
Point 1: Chopper is a shitty movie.


You're always wrong.


Point 2: Robocop (original) rocks.

Ok, so you're just usually wrong.

Sin Studly
12-13-2006, 07:28 PM
I love Chopper for i's highly sophisticated plot-lines. Like when he headbutts a prostitute's mother.