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Sunny
06-01-2006, 01:53 PM
As some of you well know, I'm going to have blepharoplasty (eyelid surgery) done. I was uh.. surgeon shopping today. The first guy i saw.. well, I had spoken to him on the phone, but haven't explained the problem in detail. Once he fully realized what I wanted he was honest enough to admit he doesn't have much experience with eyes. and that he won't do the procedure.

hey, whatever.

but then I asked about a nose job and he went:

"Well, we don't do noses anymore. we do very nice BREAST IMPLANTS, though. We use a very advanced matching system.. yadda yadda.."... and he went into a whole thing about how NICE and SAFE and generally AWESOME their tit implants are. and how happy the patients are.

....
O_O

holy christ.

it was the first time someone has ever offered me fake boobs. to my face. i mean, ok, I'm a B cup, but come on, buddy. HAVE SOME DECENCY, for the love of god. I come in to talk about my EYE and he's like LULZ HOW ABOUT SOME TITS INSTEAD?

and i like my boobs, by the way. cunt bucket.

PS. i already set my surgery date with someone else. june 9th. asshat.

the_GoDdEsS
06-01-2006, 01:55 PM
I wouldn't wonder. For people that's just business. You have a potential client, offer as much as you can.

Izie
06-01-2006, 01:58 PM
But sunny dude, you totally need bigger b00bz so you can like marry a rich guy and get moneyz for more plastic surgery and stuff!

...eastern europe. Not that others are much better, but heh.

Sunny
06-01-2006, 02:00 PM
Well, if someone comes in inquiring about a specific body altering procedure and you suggest they get a completely unrelated major surgery.. i dunno. It's ridiculous and quite rude.

I mean, this is not clothes shopping, and it's not exactly a "how would you like this belt with these pants" kinda remark, either.

and izas, i already got a western husband. LULZ! ;p

the_GoDdEsS
06-01-2006, 02:01 PM
So? You're still only profit in their eyes.

Izie
06-01-2006, 02:03 PM
I know you do :p

However, Sim is right I'd say, a plastic surgeon, if money-loving enough, would play whatever he thinks might be an insecurity to you in order to make you pay more moneyz!

They're all little pieces of horceshit :(

Sunny
06-01-2006, 02:07 PM
My current surgeon casually asked if i was interested in any other procedures while I'm at it. That's what I call going about business the tactful way.

It's not about being greedy, because they all are. Fact. It's about being intelligent enough to recognize that if someone comes in for a 30 minute, local anaesthesia, RECONSTRUCTIVE prodecure they probably won't have much interest in a multi-hour, painful, invasive and dangerous "alteration".

Besides, by offering "help" in that respect he basically shared his opinion on my tit size, which I do not recall ever asking for.

ninthlayer
06-01-2006, 02:09 PM
I'd drink out of those B cups any day.

the_GoDdEsS
06-01-2006, 02:12 PM
It's not about being greedy, because they all are. Fact. It's about being intelligent enough to recognize that if someone comes in for a 30 minute, local anaesthesia, RECONSTRUCTIVE prodecure they probably won't have much interest in a multi-hour, painful, invasive and dangerous "alteration".


There are always people insecure enough who do get talked into accepting something like that. And you shouldn't take those things personally. That guy is only doing his job and selling his products. If it seems tactful to you or not is not of great importance. It's business, it's not meant to be personal. And as long as it's not some empathetic type of person, they're never going to treat you like a human being, only as a potential profit target.

Izie
06-01-2006, 02:14 PM
It's about being intelligent enough...

Yup. And they're prolly not :p

That, or they just don't care if they offend you, because there's a small proportion of those who MIGHT be convinced to do it, so y'know, why not try?

Sim: out of my head.

Sunny
06-01-2006, 02:23 PM
There are always people insecure enough who do get talked into accepting something like that. And you shouldn't take those things personally. That guy is only doing his job and selling his products. If it seems tactful to you or not is not of great importance. It's business, it's not meant to be personal.

It is of utmost importance because it is MY money that is coming out of MY pocket, and it's his job to convince me to get rid of it. If he acts blatantly rude, he loses business. simple as that.

I don't expect him to care for me personally, but to fake it well. For the kinda amount plastic surgeons expect me to pay, they better offer exceptional service, take care of my coat, bring me tea and make me feel as comfortable as possible - not because they care about me deeply emo style, but because it's business - and you can't do good business without properly wooing the potential consumer.

And people's incompetence generally bothers me.

HornyPope
06-01-2006, 02:31 PM
He just probably wanted to see your bewbs. You know, as per examine procedure.

the_GoDdEsS
06-01-2006, 02:34 PM
It's not exactly what I would call rude. It's a matter of interpretation.

Take some time to go through that guy's most probable thought process, top-bottom:

1. He's a salesperson.
2. People are insecure about their looks.
3. It's very popular to get breast implants.
4. *checks if customer does not have a HUGE rack already*
5. Talk about product or offer what he specialises in. ("Well we don't have this, but we have a great that.")

Rational, direct business.

Obviously a female businesswoman might have done that differently. And it's most probable that the female reaction is saying it's rude and being offended. Just look at it rationally instead.

Sunny
06-01-2006, 02:45 PM
From a purely rational point of view of an advertising geek, in order to successfully sell a product, you need to understand the nature of the product. The social implications. The emotional charge attached to it. Selling luxuries has very little to do with rationality, it's all about consumer insight and understanding of the connection between the person and the product.

A good salesperson has an understanding of what they're selling and what it means. You won't sell $300 perfume to women the same way you sell $3 deodorant to men, and similarly, attempting to sell breast implants like you would sell a handbag is a bad business strategy, pure and simple.

If you're selling a sensitive product, be sensitive, act caring, reassure. Don't point it out like it's a shoe on a rack. This is not so much female irrationality as it is basic rules of good advertising.

the_GoDdEsS
06-01-2006, 02:48 PM
Okay, agreed on that. But to really be able tell I would have needed to know what he said exactly and how he presented it. And since I don't, it becomes irrelevant.

sKratch
06-01-2006, 02:55 PM
What's wrong with your eyelid? O_o

Sunny
06-01-2006, 03:05 PM
It's approximately 1.5 mm lower than my right one due to nerve/muscle damage. And i hate asymmetry, especially in my own FACE ;p so it's getting pulled up a notch.

XYlophonetreeZ
06-01-2006, 04:05 PM
I agree with Sunny here. Sure, he wants profit, but in what profession does a desire for profit excuse such basic measures of decency? The offer was insensitive, which I think is even more appalling since as a plastic surgeon, one has to deal with a helluvalot of people who are insecure about their appearance, which means he should probably be held to an even higher standard with regards to sensitivity rather than being excused for it because it's profitable. Not illegal, and maybe not even uncommon, but definitely something to get justifiably angry about. I mean, some insecure girl could come in and spend a fortune on some kinda facial surgery and then walk out, feeling all happy about getting whatever fixed, but broke as hell, and then the guy immediately makes her feel like her titties are inadequate. And she can't afford implants. I don't know how common it is, but it's shitty.

HornyPope
06-01-2006, 04:10 PM
From a purely rational point of view of an advertising geek, in order to successfully sell a product, you need to understand the nature of the product. The social implications. The emotional charge attached to it. Selling luxuries has very little to do with rationality, it's all about consumer insight and understanding of the connection between the person and the product.

A good salesperson has an understanding of what they're selling and what it means. You won't sell $300 perfume to women the same way you sell $3 deodorant to men, and similarly, attempting to sell breast implants like you would sell a handbag is a bad business strategy, pure and simple.

If you're selling a sensitive product, be sensitive, act caring, reassure. Don't point it out like it's a shoe on a rack. This is not so much female irrationality as it is basic rules of good advertising.

That's a very good modus. They teach you this in school (as in a book) or was it an advice given by a professor?

Little_Miss_1565
06-01-2006, 04:20 PM
Lulz, maybe you should ask him about his research into penis enlargement.

Sunny
06-01-2006, 04:30 PM
That's a very good modus. They teach you this in school (as in a book) or was it an advice given by a professor?

my research and planning teacher kept trying to hammer this into our heads =p and also, i'm a nerd and i look up ad agencies/strategies a lot.. and it's actually a big part of the Incite workflow for one of the biggest agencies out there.

...ok, i need a life. srsly.

Sunny
06-01-2006, 04:35 PM
and Xylo, of course, I agree. From what I'm seeing here, though, advocating decency in business, even in the healthcare business, and looking at things from an ethics-oriented point of view won't get you far.

wheelchairman
06-01-2006, 04:41 PM
I have an oral exam in marketing next week. Based on a report I did on the Danish design company, GUBI A/S (or GUBI inc.) They are neat. They don't produce anything themselves. They don't design anything independently either. Makes you ask, where does their profit come from? (obviously enough they coordinate the production and design, so essentially a licensing company.)

Their chairs are in the Guggenheim.

Back on topic. Sunny you totally freak me out with the eye thing. I mean it gives me the heeby jeebies. Eye surgery ah! If you need an eye lid transplant, consider me a possible donor!

EDIT. On ethics. Accountants call this alternative (or Green) accounting. It can be profitable. And some companies rely a lot on that kind of image. Max Havelaar comes to mind. Most people don't care and go for the cheaper product. Which is understandable enough. And I just assumed what you are talking about, so forgive me if I'm off base.

HornyPope
06-01-2006, 05:23 PM
my research and planning teacher kept trying to hammer this into our heads =p and also, i'm a nerd and i look up ad agencies/strategies a lot.. and it's actually a big part of the Incite workflow for one of the biggest agencies out there.

...ok, i need a life. srsly.

I think that's fascinating. I always strive to discover the thinking behind every group and sub group of individuals (analysing the individual by himself is a little different- but i do that too). So if you look at their strategies, that's a sign of a healhty interest.

JohnnyNemesis
06-01-2006, 06:48 PM
I agree with Sunny here. Sure, he wants profit, but in what profession does a desire for profit excuse such basic measures of decency? The offer was insensitive, which I think is even more appalling since as a plastic surgeon, one has to deal with a helluvalot of people who are insecure about their appearance, which means he should probably be held to an even higher standard with regards to sensitivity rather than being excused for it because it's profitable. Not illegal, and maybe not even uncommon, but definitely something to get justifiably angry about. I mean, some insecure girl could come in and spend a fortune on some kinda facial surgery and then walk out, feeling all happy about getting whatever fixed, but broke as hell, and then the guy immediately makes her feel like her titties are inadequate. And she can't afford implants. I don't know how common it is, but it's shitty.

Shit dude, VERY well expressed. That's exactly what I was going to try to get at.

It's approximately 1.5 mm lower than my right one due to nerve/muscle damage. And i hate asymmetry, especially in my own FACE ;p so it's getting pulled up a notch.

1.5 mm?! Well, it's your decision, but it's obvious from my tone what I feel about this! It's all you though, my friend. Are you sure you can afford all of this? I mean, I'm sure you can, that was a stupid question but....gahhhhhhh, this is not my place, and I don't want to seem like I'm judging!

Mota Boy
06-01-2006, 07:40 PM
I'd drink out of those B cups any day.
See? That's how to handle the situation with a little tact.

Sunny
06-02-2006, 04:23 AM
1.5 mm?! Well, it's your decision, but it's obvious from my tone what I feel about this! It's all you though, my friend. Are you sure you can afford all of this? I mean, I'm sure you can, that was a stupid question but....gahhhhhhh, this is not my place, and I don't want to seem like I'm judging!

ha, um, i don't feel like you're judging, cause your concerns echo those of my family (charlie included, obviously). yah, well. it's not a big asymmetry, but it's been driving me nuts. literally. i wear stupid emo bangs to detract attention from it. i have trouble making eye contact. i am dead scared of the procedure itself and the recovery process, yes, and financially, i've had to give up on a bunch of stuff i wanted to be able to pay for it. honestly, though, i don't want to go through my life knowing that i COULD do something about it and backed out. Sappy as it might sound, i only have one life to live, and i want to spend it being able to look people in the eye without being unhappy about doing so.


Sunny you totally freak me out with the eye thing. I mean it gives me the heeby jeebies. Eye surgery ah!

that makes two of us. oh did i say it's in LOCAL ANAESTHESIA? killmeplz.

i'll keep the eyelid thing in mind, thanks ;p

JoY
06-02-2006, 08:54 AM
I think the main problem is that he doesn't recognise the human body has a human body. you were born with it, you grew up with it, it grew with you, it's yours, it's private, it's personal, do I need to say more. I think it's unfortunately a rather common attitude of doctors to view physical problems as a mechanical one they're asked to fix.

a collegue of my father (dermatologist) was in the tenniscourt the other day. he felt an aching pain in his chest, projecting to his left arm. while he joked around about him being right handed anyway, he played on, untill he suddenly dropped dead on the ground.
the symptoms I just described are EXTREMELY typical symptoms for a heart attack & they aren't too difficult to remember, I'd say. I think it's one of the first things you learn in medicine. still, he didn't recognise it in himself, because he distanced himself from his patients so much - to stay professional & in order not to get personally involved - he didn't view another's body the way he saw his own. his study material never was about him - he studied all of that to help other people. his own body is personal, private, important & it's just unacceptable anything would happen to it. like it's unacceptable for anyone else if something wrong happens to their physiques, but doctors often don't GET that.

it's embarrassing, hurtful, rude, antisocial, infuriating... I know. I remember very well the exact moment that a doctor told my mother "that child's got asthma, here is medication & make her take it on time. have a good day." besides the fact I didn't have asthma, there are a couple of ways to break the news. HELLO. I'm sitting in the same room with you, will you treat me as a person PLEASE?! needless to say I was upset. & pissed off. & thought it was total bullshit.

back to the topic at hand: medicine should NOT be business & he does take it that way. I understand it basically just IS business, but we're not talking about a car, but someone's health. pretty fucking important. it concerns life, life quality, happiness & basically everything you'd live for at all.

the second doctor offered you the same as the first in a different way, but he left the option to you & you could interpret his words in whatever way you wanted.

if someone visits you as a doctor, you ask what the problem is, why that person came to you & what you can do to help. to help someone as much as you can, you ask if there are any other problems, things like that. to get a full picture & to understand the context & the consequences of someone's healthproblems for them. if you want to be able to give a patient what you offer - treatment to improve your health in whatever way - that's just necessary. & you have no choice, but just doing the fucking best you can, because they have a problem concerning their health, either physical or mental, & you chose to become a doctor. you're instructed & educated to fucking fix it. but DON'T - EVER treat the human body like a simple object.

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 09:08 AM
If you're getting surgery for a 1.5mm 'imperfection' and you have b-cups, I see no reason he wouldn't think he could talk you into a tit job.

And for serious, you're getting surgery over 1.5mm? Jesus.

JoY
06-02-2006, 09:12 AM
If you're getting surgery for a 1.5mm 'imperfection' and you have b-cups, I see no reason he wouldn't think he could talk you into a tit job.

And for serious, you're getting surgery over 1.5mm? Jesus.
*giggles* that was well played. the amount of people out there, getting surgeries like groceries, saying they're just perfectionists.

Sunny
06-02-2006, 09:14 AM
I think it's unfortunately a rather common attitude of doctors to view physical problems as a mechanical one they're asked to fix.

in addition, not only is it NOT a problem, but I also didn't ask him to fix it. Nor did I ask if it needs fixing.


I understand it basically just IS business, but we're not talking about a car, but someone's health. the second doctor offered you the same as the first in a different way, but he left the option to you & you could interpret his words in whatever way you wanted.

Exactly. My current surgeon also implied that after a nose job a person's view of their upper lip changes and they often consider collagen/restylane injections. Was she implying that if i ever get my nose done, I will want lip augmentation?

maybe. probably. but it was a tactful and subtle way of going about it.

speaking of ethics, I generally feel breast augmentation is an unethical procedure.. but it's just me, probably.

And the more i read this thread the more it angers me.

and rofl at Justin. good point ;p
in all seriousness, though, 1.5 mm can seem like a kilometer if you see it every day.

JoY
06-02-2006, 09:21 AM
aw. don't be angry sunnies.<3

I realise what you have isn't some major health problem you can't live with, but it is kind of a problem to you, or else you wouldn't be looking for a way (you of course would first need to agree to) to fix it.

& because the jackass couldn't offer you the procedure you wanted, he probably immediately considered you a lost patient, entirely forgot about his manners & his position as a doctor & just offered you a boobjob for the hell of it. "hey, you never know"-kind of attitude.

wrong, but yeah. kind of.. human. human fuck-ups are annoying anyway, but this kind is rather hurtful & infuriating, that's the problem.

it's ridiculous anyway that a doctor, SPECIALISED in plastic surgery, would say; "sorry, don't got too much experience with eyes". man, you studied for this. HOW on EARTH did you even ever become a plastic surgeon?!

Sunny
06-02-2006, 09:27 AM
ah i'm not angry about the eye thing at all. it's other stuff.

and you're prolly right about the dude. but hey, he specializes in boobs, so what does he care about eyelids. he doesn't even do rhinoplasties, which are ridiculously popular. so yah. titman. ;p

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 09:27 AM
and rofl at Justin. good point ;p
in all seriousness, though, 1.5 mm can seem like a kilometer if you see it every day.

And b-cups can seem like mosquito bites. Give the man his due, he's just getting his job done.

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 09:29 AM
And besides, it's elective surgery. It's not like you came in with bowel cancer and he tried to talk you into getting an appendectomy. Ethics have no place in the world of plastic surgery.

(ps ; Your tits are inadequate. Upsize.)

Sunny
06-02-2006, 09:37 AM
And b-cups can seem like mosquito bites. Give the man his due, he's just getting his job done.

Except he's not getting it done well at all. All he got out of me was "oh yeah, I've seen your work on your site, it's gorgeous; good job". And that was that. It was nice to see the disappointment on his face. Really, part of my problem with this is his inadequacy as an adman/salesperson.

I generally find it unethical to offer a procedure that's dangerous (boobjobs, anal bleaching). Or, rather, I find it disturbing that there is such a high demand for procedures like that. Fulfilling the demand is just being a clever salesman, I suppose.

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 09:44 AM
Creating the demand is being a clever salesman, fulfilling it is being a skilled tradesperson. If you ever go to him for the lip thing, you'd better hope the latter makes up for his inadequacy in the former.

(and Jesus Christ, seriously 1.5mm?)

Sunny
06-02-2006, 09:48 AM
Oh, I'll never go to him for anything. It was my current surgeon who's actually going to work on the eye that mentioned the lip thing.

On a semi-related note, may I just say that anyone who thinks *i* need collagen in my lips needs to lay off whatever shit they're taking/smoking/whatever.

and yes. seriously. srsly & 4 realz. =p

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 09:52 AM
To be honest, I think anyone considering plastic surgery who isn't a burns victim needs to lay off whatever they're whatevering ; but if you can think you need eyelid surgery over a 1.5mm discrepancy, then they can think your lips aren't niggerly enough.

Enough, tolerating other people's right to have opinions makes me feel so fucking dirty.

Nina
06-02-2006, 10:05 AM
I dont understand why a lot of people are questioning your decision. I understand that discussing about stuff is a good thing, but this one is set in all aspects (your decision, the date, the doc, etc), so why dont they just accept it? The topic itself was about something else anyway.
My question is...are the dangers for your eyelid surgery high? I would not think so. And..how long is it going to take?
I wish you the best of luck :] And dont worry about stuff.

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 10:08 AM
I dont understand why a lot of people are questioning your decision.

Because we're judgmental bastards and we think her decision is stupid.

Nina
06-02-2006, 10:12 AM
Hmmm. But isnt insecurity always stupid? A lot of people's insecurities cannot be understood by others...why should it be understood this time?
And what I love about this topic is that nobody is offensive. Doesnt happen often. So I wouldnt call you bastards :P

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 10:14 AM
We're not trying to understand it, we're just condemning it. Humanity is awesome like that.

Sunny
06-02-2006, 11:02 AM
Nina, i think it's understandable on the level that the asymmetry isn't major. Like, it's not like my whole eye is covered up, lol. For most people 1.5 mm is hardly a reason to go get cut up. I've had just about everyone question it, and well, whatever. It's my eye, my money, and it's me who has to look at it in the mirror. ;p

To answer your question, the surgery takes 30 minutes under local anaesthesia. The only real risk is, well, infection, or the surgery not working. It's a relatively simple procedure.

I was more irritated by some of the responses to the breast thing than anything else.

Sin Studly
06-02-2006, 11:36 AM
It's my eye, my money, and it's me who has to look at it in the mirror.

Absolutely. But we're still judgemental motherfuckers. I respect Sunny's point of view, and I respect the point of view of everyone who questioned her.

The only point of view I'm wtfing over is Nina's.

Paint_It_Black
06-02-2006, 06:41 PM
The only point of view I'm wtfing over is Nina's.

Why? I see nothing wrong with it.

HeadAroundU
06-02-2006, 06:54 PM
Sunny, change your ugly avatar, please. Because of huge nose, tired eyes and it's the second worse after Maria......you know it's not perfect which is against yourself. :D

Paint_It_Black
06-02-2006, 07:23 PM
Shut up, mutant-face.

You fucking idiot.

HeadAroundU
06-02-2006, 07:28 PM
Hey, uncle Pib!
Do you see me improving?

JohnnyNemesis
06-02-2006, 07:41 PM
Actually, Sunny looks adorable in that picture. You lose.

HeadAroundU
06-02-2006, 07:47 PM
yeah it's a real ZOMG look but....whatever....nevermind.

Paint_It_Black
06-02-2006, 08:17 PM
Do you see me improving?

Not recently. Try harder?

HeadAroundU
06-02-2006, 09:17 PM
So is that a monocle on her right eye? What you think uncle PIB?

Paint_It_Black
06-02-2006, 09:20 PM
What you think uncle PIB?

I think Sunny is stunning and I have no idea what you're talking about.

HeadAroundU
06-02-2006, 09:47 PM
ok ok but look at her avatar. Is that a bruise under her right eye?

Like ZOMG my husband gave me a punch.

sKratch
06-02-2006, 11:00 PM
lol hau knows what he's doing... he's actually pretty funny sometimes.

Paint_It_Black
06-02-2006, 11:15 PM
he's actually pretty funny sometimes.

I was thinking that, but wasn't sure whether to admit it.

Nina
06-03-2006, 02:30 AM
Why? I see nothing wrong with it.

I agree? I'd like to have it explained. Because I have the same point of view as Sunny, minus the actual problem. But if I DID have the exact same problem as her, I might do it as well?

Sin Studly
06-03-2006, 03:30 AM
I was thinking that, but wasn't sure whether to admit it.

Agree 100%. Change your ugly avatar, Sunny. You have disgusting uneven eyelids.

Nina
06-03-2006, 03:51 AM
Answer my question!!!!!!1111 (please)

Paint_It_Black
06-03-2006, 04:46 AM
Agree 100%. Change your ugly avatar, Sunny. You have disgusting uneven eyelids.

Dammit, don't quote me and then say that. I just agreed that HAU can be funny sometimes, not that he's right.

Sunny
06-03-2006, 04:58 AM
ya'lls sense of humor surprises me. (yes, i said ya'll, sue me).

i for one feel bad for HAU, as he doesn't seem to grasp concepts such as light, shadow, and how faces appear when illuminated from one side.

Sin Studly
06-03-2006, 05:28 AM
ya'lls sense of humor surprises me. (yes, i said ya'll, sue me).

i for one feel bad for HAU, as he doesn't seem to grasp concepts such as light, shadow, and how faces appear when illuminated from one side.

Oh yes, HAU is a total idiot. But you still got ZOMG punched by your husband, you ugly tattoo-ruined slut.

Sunny
06-03-2006, 06:12 AM
he beats me regularly because i don't have an unspoiled virginal back.

woe!

sKratch
06-03-2006, 07:13 AM
I could be terribly mistaken, but I'm gonna go ahead and give our Slovakian friend the benefit of the doubt. Everyone thinks he's a fucking idiot, and I think for a good while they were right. He used to be a dumb cunt, there's no doubt about it. However, it would appear he's wisened up and once in a while says hilariously stupid things his oppossite-of-fanclub would expect him to say. They then call him an idiot etc etc, when in fact he's just, as the British say, "having a go" or "taking the piss" (I couldn't figure out how to misspell those like a Brit would).

JohnnyNemesis
06-03-2006, 02:01 PM
However, it would appear he's wisened up and once in a while says hilariously stupid things his oppossite-of-fanclub would expect him to say.

This is true, or at least it was. I pointed this out months ago, but now this very same routine has run its course. He needs something new, cause this is stale.

Sunny
06-03-2006, 02:05 PM
I generally have little appreciation for rudeness and idiocy, whether they are genuine or just a gimmick.

killer_queen
06-03-2006, 02:10 PM
At least your plastic surgeon doesn't refuse to do what you want Sunny.

A couple of months ago I went to his office to talk about getting my nose done. He stared at my face for an hour and told me there was nothing wrong with my nose and I was too young to get a nose job. That's why I have to live with my ugly nose until I die.

Sunny
06-03-2006, 02:12 PM
well, they'd have no reason to refuse ;p

What do you want fixed about your nose?

killer_queen
06-03-2006, 02:15 PM
Nothing serious, in fact. It looks like Scarlett Johannson's nose and I hate it. Every time I look at the mirror I feel ugly and cover my nose with my hand. I just want a normal nose.

HeadAroundU
06-03-2006, 02:17 PM
Show us! How you ever uploaded a pic of you?

Sunny
06-03-2006, 02:19 PM
Nothing serious, in fact. It looks like Scarlett Johannson's nose and I hate it. Every time I look at the mirror I feel ugly and cover my nose with my hand. I just want a normal nose.

From what I've seen of Scarlett, her nose looks fine. what exactly do you want done? nostrils? tip? bridge? because, honestly, if your nose is that small/already delicate, i'm not surprised the doctor didn't want to mess with it.

killer_queen
06-03-2006, 02:23 PM
Tip. I know, it sounds stupid, everyone says that. I didn't used to hate my nose but last year my friend told me it was big and since that day I haven't been happy with it. Maybe I need to go to a psychologist instead of a plastic surgeon. =/