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ZSTEIN
06-27-2006, 08:38 PM
I'm looking for a new amp to use for my band, The Coldcuts (http://www.myspace.com/thecoldcuts). I've been thinking about it for a while and I think I'm gonna go for a Marshall. I was just wondering if any of you expierienced players had any suggestions for the amp I should get. I'm on a bit of a budget so don't suggest any all tube amps that are way pricey. I want a lot of volume and power which made me immediatly think the MG100 Half Stack (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-MG100HDFXMG412-Slant-Cab-Half-Stack-Package?sku=482807) looked good, but one of my friends told me it sucked. The AVT series looks pretty cool, which made me think about this combo amp (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-AVT275-Combo-Amp?sku=483178). So just give me any thoughts you have about what I should do. Thanks a ton.




I had one more question...which amp would be louder, a 100W amp through two 12 inch speakers, or an amp with two 12 inch speakers with 75 watts each? The whole watts, ohms, speakers size has always confused me a bit, so if anyone could break that down a bit for me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

opivy21
06-27-2006, 09:11 PM
Well, I have an MG and I can tell you that the tone really isn't that great. I personally don't mind because tone isn't really a big thing to me, but most guitar players hate the amp. Its clean channel is decent, but the distortion channels can be too muddy sometimes where you can't hear a lot of parts through the distortion. It's loud and it'll cover you for your band, but at least play through before you decide on it.

I've never played one so I can't speak about the AVT.

As for your last question, I can't help. I'm sure that someone else knows more than me about amps, because I'm not well educated on them.

It's too bad Ultimate-Guitar is down because a lot of people could be helpful to you there and tell you about how much they hate the MG.

ZSTEIN
06-27-2006, 09:18 PM
haha thanks...my practice amp is a little 15W MG which I love as a practice amp but I think I might want something better for on stage

opivy21
06-27-2006, 09:21 PM
Yeah, like I said, if you value your tone very much, then there's probably some better amps out there. I've heard that Vox Valvetronix are good and I don't that they're too pricy. I've never played one, but good things have been said.

Jebus
06-27-2006, 09:21 PM
Don't be fooled by amp wattage. Wattage is mostly used as a marketing gimmick to trick people into thinking that wattage = volume. A 100w amp isn't much louder that a 75 watter. Think of it this way. In order for an amp to be twice as lound, you need to multiply the wattage by four. If you want an amp twice as lound as a 25 watt, you need a 100 watt amp. If you want an amp twice as loud as a 100 watt amp, you need a 400 watt amp. This is only the rule of thumb so it's not always correct. Also, tube amps generally sound louder than solid state amps for the ammount of watts they have. For example, a 50 watt tube amp will generally sound louder than a 50 watt solid state amp and even maybe louder than a 100 watt solid state.

I'm not 100 percent about your last question though. Go ask in http://musicianforums.com or http://ultimate-guitar.com/forum/. You'll find more knowledgeable people there.

From what I heard, MGs are a waste of money and most people usually regret buying them after a while. There are a couple of all-tube alternatives you should look into for around the same price. I've seen some sound samples online. I'll post them later if I could find them. Remember, tube amp watts will give you more bang for your buck.
http://www.music123.com/Randall-RG50TC-i160941.music
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Peavey-ValveKing-212-Combo-Amp?sku=481443

I've also hear good stuff about this hybrid.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Valvetronix-AD100VT-100W-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=482623

ZSTEIN
06-27-2006, 09:34 PM
those amps look pretty nice, ecspecially the peavy one...looks like I have a lot of thinking to do...

ermdevi@tion
06-28-2006, 03:03 AM
I've heard that Vox Valvetronix are good and I don't that they're too pricy.

They are very good for tone! I think they have a valve in the pre-amp or something?

Also - on the AVT, I played on one of these in a studio a week ago and they also sound really nice, don't quite match up to a JCM or anything though.

All-tube is the way to go.

NDM1
06-30-2006, 03:45 PM
What is your price range?
What Kind of music do you play?
What is your current setup?

ZSTEIN
06-30-2006, 11:26 PM
well...the price range is around 800...i could save up a little more if it really caught my eye, and i play mostly rock music with some punk and metal as well

NDM1
07-01-2006, 09:54 AM
Hmm if your looking for a half-stack the B-52 AT-100 is dangerously close to your price range. If you haggle the people at guitar center and buy both head and cab together you could get it for less then 1000.
B-52 AT-100 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/B52-AT100-100W-Tube-Guitar-Amp-with-Tri-Mode-Rectifier?sku=481303)