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Jerry
12-18-2004, 03:32 AM
He has (A) on his plane :) Check this out. What do you think?

Noodles is gay
12-18-2004, 03:39 AM
Anarchist - a person who advocates the abolition of government and a social system based upon voluntary cooperation. Nope, don't think he is.

The A is probably just to look 'cool', like those 10yr old Linkin Park fans who have it on their hoodys and wristbands.

Anyway, didn't Dexter support Kerry in the election, an anarchist would possibly have favoured Bush, and would have preferred neither.

RXP
12-18-2004, 04:53 AM
OMFG Sic supports Bush?

Jojan
12-18-2004, 05:04 AM
He's got the Anarchy A on his guitar to.
http://offspring.com/ofe/content/photos/fullsize/1708623853-N1689-N24.jpg

Anarchy Airlines
http://offspring.com/ofe/content/photos/fullsize/1708623853-N172-N2527.JPG

Notice the Fuck Authority signs.
http://offspring.com/ofe/content/photos/fullsize/1708623853-N1797-N2764.jpg

NOAMR
12-18-2004, 05:49 AM
Dunno whetther he's an anarchist or he's just wearing it for being cool, probably the second, but well, he got's a lot of signs and so on, so it could also be the first. But don't think an anarchist would vote Bush (well, I'm an anarchist, and I wouldn't). Kerry is still less dictatorial than Bush.

T-6005
12-18-2004, 07:26 AM
There's something oxymoronic about your political views being anarchist.

Moose
12-18-2004, 09:34 AM
he obviously isnt an anarchist, but like most wants as little government power over the people as possible.

Little_Miss_1565
12-18-2004, 10:15 AM
Am I the only one that sees something rather tongue-in-cheek about an anarchy A plastered on the tail of a private jet?

wheelchairman
12-18-2004, 10:21 AM
Anyway, didn't Dexter support Kerry in the election, an anarchist would possibly have favoured Bush, and would have preferred neither.

Little Miss, sorry I actually didn't, I was too busy concentrating on the stupidity of this statement.

leo3375
12-18-2004, 11:31 AM
I have the issue of SPIN from 1999 with Dexter on the cover. There was something in the article about Dexter being a card-carrying Democrat. He's rather moaderate about his views, though.

The Cheshire Cat
12-18-2004, 01:44 PM
The anarchist "A" has been adopted by punks in general, whether or not they're actually anarchists.

Revolver-2005?
12-18-2004, 02:18 PM
yeah its sorta just a punk logo, doesnt mean u support it...i mean if people really really supported it...theyd move to Somolia which is an anarchy lol. And dexter is a democrat, so i dont think an anarchist would choose a political party

NOAMR
12-18-2004, 03:17 PM
The Anarchy symbol means you anarchy, so you should support it. Punks adapted it, but I think that if you wear it, you should know what it is and be for it, otherwise it's just for being cool or because you think that's punk. It's not just a punk symbol, it really means your for anarchy, and a lot of punks are for anarchy, so they wear it. And Somalia isn't in real anarchy, the country is ruled by gangs and so on, so you aren't free. And that isn't what anarchists want. And I think, when you're an anarchist, you can still vote for a party, because you can try to make this place as free as possible. There's not much chance that their would be anarchy in a country just in once, but it's possible to give more rights and power to the people and so develop in anarchy.

wheelchairman
12-18-2004, 03:34 PM
Anarchists, at least historically have been in favor of direct democracy during revolutionary times.

Anarchy as far as I understand it, does not mean government less. It is oppression-free. There will always be organizations that organize. Anarchy is built on this, it is a socialist movement and socialism is built on the organization of the working class.

That is of course excluding utopian socialists who deny class-theory and believe that economic equality is brought on forth by the elite monetary ruling class.

Everywhere you go you will find people talking about anarchism when all they know is the name. I'm told that the symbol, the A with the O means Anarchy is Order, but it could just as easily be a pentacost missing two lines and a circle around it. A symbol which is related to satanism. Another movement which confuses people by it's name.

I guess my point is, we're all idiots who feed information only from the very surface without bothering to go deeper into understanding it. Rather disgusting commentary on the kind of people who enjoy debating isn't it?

Jojan
12-18-2004, 06:23 PM
The anarchist "A" has been adopted by punks in general, whether or not they're actually anarchists.
Where have you seen this? I have never seen a punk whith tha A whiout supporting it! NEVER! Maybe the punks where you are from. But if they are they are wierd.

Punks must being anarchist is like sandwich allways has to have butter. That's the same deal. Not all punkers are anarchists, but most are - because it's good. To me, it is imposible to be something to the right way, political. A punker can not be a nazi. They can call themself nazis (even if that's dumb), like Sid Vicious did. But then it's only for provoke - like Sid.

Why do we have a punk discuss in The Offspring forum?

wheelchairman
12-18-2004, 07:09 PM
Where have you seen this? I have never seen a punk whith tha A whiout supporting it! NEVER! Maybe the punks where you are from. But if they are they are wierd.

Punks must being anarchist is like sandwich allways has to have butter. That's the same deal. Not all punkers are anarchists, but most are - because it's good. To me, it is imposible to be something to the right way, political. A punker can not be a nazi. They can call themself nazis (even if that's dumb), like Sid Vicious did. But then it's only for provoke - like Sid.

Why do we have a punk discuss in The Offspring forum?
The offspring consider(ed) themselves punk. And are typically thought of as modern punk rockers.

You can't stereotype all punks as anarchists. That is just generalizing, there are nazi punks out there, and they aren't all joking either. Just as there are conservative punks.

Little_Miss_1565
12-18-2004, 10:26 PM
pentacost

I believe my esteemed collegue means "pentacle" or "pentagram," the latter of which is the only one directly related to satanism (the former being pagan), rather than "pentacost," which is the longest season of the Christian calendar. ;)

midnightfire582
12-18-2004, 10:33 PM
I believe my esteemed collegue means "pentacle" or "pentagram," the latter of which is the only one directly related to satanism (the former being pagan), rather than "pentacost," which is the longest season of the Christian calendar. ;)
Pentagram and pentacle mean the same thing and they both represent Wicca. I don't know what an upside down pentagram is technically called but it's not a symbol of Satanism, it's a symbol of Lucifarianism. I know it's not related to this topic but I just thought I should clear that up.

Little_Miss_1565
12-18-2004, 10:39 PM
Pentagram and pentacle mean the same thing and they both represent Wicca. I don't know what an upside down pentagram is technically called but it's not a symbol of Satanism, it's a symbol of Lucifarianism. I know it's not related to this topic but I just thought I should clear that up.

The pentagram is an upside-down pentacle.

T-6005
12-19-2004, 12:36 AM
Ah, the misguided perceptions that grow up around a thing so that no one really knows what the thing itself is anymore.

hereforone
12-19-2004, 01:06 AM
Am I the only one that sees something rather tongue-in-cheek about an anarchy A plastered on the tail of a private jet?

nope. . . .

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 04:37 AM
Pentagram and pentacle mean the same thing and they both represent Wicca. I don't know what an upside down pentagram is technically called but it's not a symbol of Satanism, it's a symbol of Lucifarianism. I know it's not related to this topic but I just thought I should clear that up.
Wicca and Satanism both take roots in European paganism such as that of the nature gods of Scandinavia and Russia.

Wicca as we see it today, has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen people believe. Right up there with scientology.

Jojan
12-19-2004, 04:52 AM
The offspring consider(ed) themselves punk. And are typically thought of as modern punk rockers.

You can't stereotype all punks as anarchists. That is just generalizing, there are nazi punks out there, and they aren't all joking either. Just as there are conservative punks.
I'm glad I live in Sweden. Here almost every 'normal' person calles them self a patriot. That sucks becasue Sweden isn't that much of a country. And thoose who are patriots are the same guys who where all the latest clothing (or think they do).
Another reason why there arn't alot of punk nazis here is probobly because punks think is 'fun' to fight them, kick them in their heads.

Heard on the street from one of thoose partiots (translated):
"The fucking commies.. they nothing bout troblue. And why has all thoose turks come here whit their fucking culture?"
I didn't hear anoymore because I was walking. The guy looked like every guy in school does.

T-6005
12-19-2004, 04:58 AM
kind of racist, no?

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 05:00 AM
You don't visit Skåne much do you Jojan?

midnightfire582
12-19-2004, 11:28 AM
Wicca as we see it today, has to be one of the funniest things I've ever seen people believe. Right up there with scientology.
Hmm way to respect other people's beliefs. Asshole.

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 11:55 AM
Hmm way to respect other people's beliefs. Asshole.
Why should I respect the biggest load of crock I've ever heard? Bitch.

Jojan
12-19-2004, 01:18 PM
You don't visit Skåne much do you Jojan?
No. Skåne is Swedens shithole.

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 01:40 PM
Agreed, I think at one point it had the world's highest density of Nazis.

SicN Twisted
12-19-2004, 02:25 PM
Wicca isn't a legitimate system of beliefs, it's idiotic pseudo-mystisism only practiced my moronic teenage rebels. It's about as retarded as energy healing.

midnightfire582
12-19-2004, 02:34 PM
Why should I respect the biggest load of crock I've ever heard? Bitch.
No one is forcing you to believe it but it's still a religion that many people practice and it's extremely close minded and asshole-ish of you to be bashing it

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 02:52 PM
Wicca isn't a legitimate system of beliefs, it's idiotic pseudo-mystisism only practiced my moronic teenage rebels. It's about as retarded as energy healing.
I thought I'd use this as my reply.

midnightfire582
12-19-2004, 03:13 PM
I thought I'd use this as my reply.
What SicNTwisted said isn't correct. Wicca is truly a religion and NOT just a rebellious teenager thing, I know far more adult Wiccans than teenage Wiccans.

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 03:18 PM
What SicNTwisted said isn't correct. Wicca is truly a religion and NOT just a rebellious teenager thing, I know far more adult Wiccans than teenage Wiccans.
Well I know far more teen wiccans than adult wiccans, whoop-tee-doo. It's still merely a misguided cult.

midnightfire582
12-19-2004, 03:20 PM
Well I know far more teen wiccans than adult wiccans, whoop-tee-doo. It's still merely a misguided cult.
Technically all religions are a cult

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 03:24 PM
Technically all religions are a cult
Not in any way. That's still a strawman's argument.

midnightfire582
12-19-2004, 03:30 PM
Not in any way. That's still a strawman's argument.
And what do you think makes Wicca a cult that doesn't make other religions cults, too?

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 03:33 PM
It's a small group focused on polytheism and belief in natural deities. It is small is the key word, it's far from mainstream. And is generally seen as ridiculous by just about anyone with a critical mind.

What's stupid about wicca, is that it's a pathetic mix of old-time norse and russo polytheistic religions, and then it claims to be a natural religion, like it knows anything of nature.

midnightfire582
12-19-2004, 03:38 PM
It's a small group focused on polytheism and belief in natural deities. It is small is the key word, it's far from mainstream. And is generally seen as ridiculous by just about anyone with a critical mind.

What's stupid about wicca, is that it's a pathetic mix of old-time norse and russo polytheistic religions, and then it claims to be a natural religion, like it knows anything of nature.
Try researching the topic you're arguing, you obviously know nothing of it

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 03:53 PM
Try researching the topic you're arguing, you obviously know nothing of it
Perhaps I know more of it than you do. I've done my research. You do realize there is more than one form of Wicca yes? That in fact it's shattered into thousands of different forms in every country?

Naw you probably wouldn't, you're one of those tree worshipping morons.

midnightfire582
12-19-2004, 04:00 PM
Perhaps I know more of it than you do. I've done my research. You do realize there is more than one form of Wicca yes? That in fact it's shattered into thousands of different forms in every country?

Naw you probably wouldn't, you're one of those tree worshipping morons.
Don't say things about me you don't know is true, you don't know me. but this argument is just going around in circles, neither of us are getting anywhere, and it's totally off the topic of this thread anyway, so let's just end it.

wheelchairman
12-19-2004, 04:11 PM
I know enough to get the general idea.

nitropenguin!
12-19-2004, 11:10 PM
^ Do you have any friends on this board? Cuz you don't seem to get along with anyone... I've just noticed and gathered the general idea.

Wait I'm probably still on your ignore list. lol

SicN Twisted
12-19-2004, 11:59 PM
Alot of people on this board respect him, including myself. I can't say the same about you, though.

I also know enough about Wicca that it's based on shallow misconceptions of thousands of ancient beliefs strewn together and simplified into a belief system that was established in the 1960s. Most rules and beliefs in Wicca have no foundations, people just pulled them out of their asses. It's not a legitimate, certified religion and nobody with a brain takes it seriously. The same also applies to the religion known as "paganism."

Teenagers become Wiccan because they think claiming that they have powers is a good way to rebel against Christian parents. Adults become Wiccan because they go through midlife crises and desperately want to seem interesting. The great majority of these people, of which I know many, are functionally retarded, which is why they believe in horse shit like Wicca.

Sexy Panda
12-20-2004, 03:02 AM
WCM gives me the shits sometimes but he's pretty cool.........for a commie.

Midnightfire the argument is going around in circles because you don't back up anything you say. "No, your wrong" and "you don't know me" are not arguments so don't flatter yourself.

Guys magic is real, don't you watch Charmed.

T-6005
12-20-2004, 03:16 AM
Having a religion that's completely made up doesn't make it a bunch of shit. Neither does nature worship. And widespread popularity doesn't make a religion more acceptable or less full of shit.

Also, many religions are shattered into thousands of little bits. Check out christianity.

Although, I know next to nothing of Wicca, it just seems like these arguments are missing the point.

Leo_ARG
12-20-2004, 07:21 AM
I think someone has to ask him.But if he is indeed anarchist, his life is a contradiction :p

midnightfire582
12-20-2004, 10:56 AM
Alright, I still think you guys are assholes for bashing a religion... that's never a good thing, the last thing we need is more hate. But I will admit that I didn't have very good arguments and didn't make myself look very good. But anyways, let's just drop it, this topic isn't in the right thread anyways, it's supposed to be on whetger Dexter is an anarchist or not.

wheelchairman
12-20-2004, 11:11 AM
And let's face it, Whether or not Dexter is an anarchist, is a non-topic that was destined to be changed.

It is intolerant to bash religions, thank god we aren't bashing a religion. However most religions are archaic, old-fashioned male-dominance mixed in with a lot of intolerance themselves, so I realy don't have a problem with it.

SicN Twisted
12-20-2004, 11:24 AM
What about the religion of Marxism? All it lacks to be a true religion is prayer. They have have temples and stone idols.

Dexter is probably not an anarchist, but if he was, his life would not be a contradiction. Anarchists have no problem with indulgence of any kind, we're not puritans.

wheelchairman
12-20-2004, 11:42 AM
What about the religion of Marxism? All it lacks to be a true religion is prayer. They have have temples and stone idols.

I'll agree with you, the statues are over the top ridiculousness, hardly proves that Marxism is a religion.

SicN Twisted
12-20-2004, 12:38 PM
The Soviets definately turned it into a religion. It definately always was something close to a religion with the prophesized second comming.

greencows12
12-30-2004, 05:55 PM
Anyway, didn't Dexter support Kerry in the election, an anarchist would possibly have favoured Bush, and would have preferred neither.i'm an anarchist, and I hate both of them, but i prefer kerry to bush.

VerySarcasticGirl
12-30-2004, 05:59 PM
i dunno he does live in conservative Huntington Beach, Orange County...