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Thomas
07-08-2006, 12:19 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexelect8jul08,0,3265742.story?coll=la-home-headlines

What do you guys think?

wheelchairman
07-08-2006, 12:19 PM
I think Vicente Fox should remain in power. For like the past 8 years I've been able to talk about how the former president of Coca Cola is now president of Mexico, without actually having to follow Mexican politics.

skaterpunke
07-08-2006, 06:36 PM
I think Vicente Fox should remain in power. For like the past 8 years I've been able to talk about how the former president of Coca Cola is now president of Mexico, without actually having to follow Mexican politics.
whats up with you?

Ninty Man
07-08-2006, 11:15 PM
I think Vicente Fox should remain in power. For like the past 8 years I've been able to talk about how the former president of Coca Cola is now president of Mexico, without actually having to follow Mexican politics.


No, he's a bad politician (even he's not as bad president as De la Madrid, Zedillo or Salinas)

I think that Obrador lost for his own overconfidence, and the worst thing of this... that he'll never be able to reach the presidence

Mexican politics??? Do you know what the hell you're talking about?

Endymion
07-09-2006, 03:23 AM
i think the politics forum isn't for your high school elections or whatever.

Ninty Man
07-09-2006, 08:05 PM
i think the politics forum isn't for your high school elections or whatever.


And isn't for retarded... so go away

The shadow
07-09-2006, 08:13 PM
Thank God he lost. We donīt need more socialists around here.

Ninty Man
07-09-2006, 08:23 PM
Thank God he lost. We donīt need more socialists around here.

He isn't a socialist, he's only populist

The shadow
07-09-2006, 08:36 PM
Well, Iīm not an expert on the subject but, I think populism isnīt very far from socialism. Anyway, It has nothing to do with the fact that the leftists are not gaining ground in the region as fast as people think. It just makes me happy. :)

Ninty Man
07-09-2006, 09:22 PM
Well, Iīm not an expert on the subject but, I think populism isnīt very far from socialism. Anyway, It has nothing to do with the fact that the leftists are not gaining ground in the region as fast as people think. It just makes me happy. :)


Oh... in any case, the leftists are not important

wheelchairman
07-10-2006, 03:36 AM
Well, Iīm not an expert on the subject but, I think populism isnīt very far from socialism. Anyway, It has nothing to do with the fact that the leftists are not gaining ground in the region as fast as people think. It just makes me happy. :)
Populism isn't an ideology. It's a style of campaigning, advertising, and propagating.

The shadow
07-11-2006, 09:24 PM
Populism isn't an ideology. It's a style of campaigning, advertising, and propagating.

No, I think it is more than that. Yes, it is a way to advertise but, it also defines most of its policies. If a certain policy is considered as "populist", then a government that carries on a bunch of "populist policies" itīs a populist goverment.

Maybe I didnīt get your point, but, are you saying that there are no populist goverments, only populist campaigns?.

Ninty Man
07-11-2006, 10:04 PM
No, I think it is more than that. Yes, it is a way to advertise but, it also defines most of its policies. If a certain policy is considered as "populist", then a government that carries on a bunch of "populist policies" itīs a populist goverment.

Maybe I didnīt get your point, but, are you saying that there are no populist goverments, only populist campaigns?.


Hugo Chavez it's populist

The shadow
07-11-2006, 10:06 PM
I know. Thatīs kind of obvious.

Ninty Man
07-11-2006, 10:07 PM
I know. Thatīs kind of obvious.


Then we agree that maybe a government could be populist... but it will crack soon or later

The shadow
07-11-2006, 10:11 PM
Well, I donīt know where are you going, but, yes, you are right.

wheelchairman
07-12-2006, 01:22 AM
No, I think it is more than that. Yes, it is a way to advertise but, it also defines most of its policies. If a certain policy is considered as "populist", then a government that carries on a bunch of "populist policies" itīs a populist goverment.

Maybe I didnīt get your point, but, are you saying that there are no populist goverments, only populist campaigns?.
Populist would be having policies for "the little man" in society. Or the average man. Or however you want to put it. Historically, both the right and left wing have claimed to be for the little man, or the average man, or the working man or whatever. Hugo Chavez also claims it. Bush claims it. Fox claims it. Stalin claimed it. Hitler claimed it. There were however, differences in their populist "policies."