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T-6005
01-23-2007, 11:58 PM
This should totally replace Anarchy as the punks' slogan all over the world. It makes so much more sense to have your country be all indy and make it on its own.

Why haven't they thought of this before, those individualists?

NOAMR
01-25-2007, 04:22 AM
If you would like to have a discussion, perhaps you can first of all explain what it is exactly, because I have never heard about it.

Sin Studly
01-25-2007, 05:54 AM
Jesus Christ, have you been constantly checking this board waiting for an anarchy discussion to come up?

T-6005
01-25-2007, 02:21 PM
Almost certainly.

AUTARKY!!!

Sexy Panda
02-10-2007, 12:13 AM
Please do everyone a favour and never succeed beyond perhaps a job in a supermarket. In fact try not to leave any mark on this world at all.

Mota Boy
02-10-2007, 12:17 AM
You may have missed some sarcasm there.


On a side note, it's interesting that it isn't capitalism, but communism and anarchism that have historically brought about the greatest of social inequalities in the modern era.

NOAMR
02-10-2007, 02:38 PM
I can understand how communism has, by giving the state an absolute monopoly, not just for violence, but also economical, but I can't see how/when anarchism has. Can you give examples?

Mota Boy
02-10-2007, 03:31 PM
Somalia, where warlords live in comfort and drive expensive foreign cars while the rest of the population starves.

NOAMR
02-11-2007, 10:49 AM
Somalia doesn't live in anarchism. Somalia is RULED BY warlords, that's not so anarchistic, hé? I've explained a 1000 times that anarchism isn't equal to 'no government'. Even tho I don't know exactly how the situation in Somalia is, perhaps there are anarchistic actions, local initiatives, anti-autorian initiatives... I don't know how the situation in Somalia came to this point, but it probalby has something to do with colonism, and what we(as a state) do and did to Africa.

T-6005
02-11-2007, 11:02 AM
When did my fun indie Autarky joke turn into a pansy Anarchy thread?

Sin Studly
02-11-2007, 11:03 AM
Can you give examples?

The areas of Johannesburg where the police refuse to enter? The "no-go zones" in American cities. The biker fortresses in Australia.

wheelchairman
02-11-2007, 11:35 AM
Mota, while there was great social inequality in communist states. It's a considerable overstatement to say greatest. Perhaps inequality of distribution of power (duh) but classwise I really doubt could make that claim.

Mota Boy
02-11-2007, 11:55 AM
I think we're basically on the same page here. I meant that there's a much greater concentration of power in these societies, which almost always translates into more money. The difference between government officials and the average worker is much greater than between the upper class and the average worker, even in an increasingly-stratified America.

And yeah, "greatest" is a bit of an exaggeration - I wasn't thinking of autocratic governments when I typed that up.

wheelchairman
02-11-2007, 12:02 PM
I'm not sure I follow. Obviously a government official had more power than the average worker than a member of the upper class might over an average worker in America. But money-wise there is no comparison. Even ignoring people like Bill Gates. And then of course it's questionable how much money can translate into power, seeing as power also translates into money.

Lithuanian Offspring
02-13-2007, 06:09 AM
colonism.

Heehe! Yeah that must have sucked ass.. Colonialism on the other hand, is one of the gayest excuses ever. I'm sure that that had a part in the current suckiness of Somalia, but it can't be the only reason. And WWII was caused by the French, because they demanded reparations from the Germans. It's just so stupid to think in such a closeminded way.

NOAMR
02-14-2007, 11:00 AM
Heehe! Yeah that must have sucked ass.. Colonialism on the other hand, is one of the gayest excuses ever. I'm sure that that had a part in the current suckiness of Somalia, but it can't be the only reason. And WWII was caused by the French, because they demanded reparations from the Germans. It's just so stupid to think in such a closeminded way.

I don't think we schould minimalize our guilt. It isn't just the past colonialism, it's also the fact that we're still exploiting them, by import taxes, giving them way to low wages... It's the main cause, that doesn't mean it justifies their acts. Even if you got no more hope, it doesn't justify to kill someone or oppress'm. I just think we schould always look at the cause, to try to create a situation were it can't happen anymore, instead of just fighting or saying what they do is bad. We also cause a lot of deaths by hunger, complaining about how they are bad, is easy.

T-6005
02-14-2007, 11:49 AM
Much as I hate to do this to a thread of my own making the way it's gone since leaves me no choice but:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d3/thibaultk/SealofDisapproval.jpg

the_GoDdEsS
02-15-2007, 02:50 AM
Wait, NOAMR still hasn't grown out of this?

NOAMR
02-15-2007, 06:30 AM
Don't hope, I'll still write all this shit when I'm 70, so you won't get rid of me so fast:).

Jakebert
02-15-2007, 06:42 AM
Have you ever posted in a thread that wasn't about anarchy? Or do you just sit here waiting for one to pop up?

*I know someone already asked, but I figured it'd be worth a shot to try again.

Sinister
02-15-2007, 08:08 AM
I think it might be similar to a certain elderly woman who pops up wherever her name is mentioned.

NOAMR
02-15-2007, 10:28 AM
I've read the Turkish discussions, but it was really too mush full of bullshit and I don't know enough about it to reply. I sometimes read offspring.com talk, dunno if I've replied there. Ow yeah, I've posted in "mod-fight"-topics, to say banning X is bad or deltting specific posts is stupid:).

Really, that's the point: since this board is full of people posting to topics they don't know a shit, I only post in topics I know about, and are worth it. "Intellectual property" or what is the other topic here, is also interesting, but I don't get myself to read trough all the shit.

Btw: this topic is about autarky. Still don't know what it means exaclty, but that isn't anarchism(100%).

Sin Studly
02-15-2007, 11:06 AM
How many other boards do you moniter for anarchy-related discussion?

the_GoDdEsS
02-15-2007, 11:46 AM
She's probably busy spraying walls and ruining property. Anarky!!

NOAMR
02-15-2007, 12:01 PM
Ruining property: no, I would never put something on private property. I don't see property owned by the government or other institiutions as property, it's a collective good everyone can do<with what he likes as long as you don't disturb the right of others to do with it what they like. Destroy stuff: that's also not my thing. Spraying: I don't even got so much time for that anymore. A lot of time goes to studying, exally.

To Sin: can't count all my boards anymore, but they're not all about anarchism(most of them not, exally).

Sin Studly
02-15-2007, 12:10 PM
Why don't you tell us about the REAL you? How old are you? What do you do for a living? For fun? What's life like for you?

RickyCrack
02-15-2007, 12:16 PM
Apparently in Belgium, anarchist means big fat floppy pussy.

NOAMR
02-15-2007, 01:26 PM
Why don't you tell us about the REAL you? How old are you? What do you do for a living? For fun? What's life like for you?

If you think it's interesting: I'm 18 years old and I study mathematics on university. I'm also in the seascouts. The rest you know allready I guess, or you could guess: hanging around with anarchists, going to some actions...
Right now, I'm enjoying life really, cuz I'm growing out of my parents house and I'm not tired yet of taking care of myself.

TBD
02-15-2007, 01:33 PM
It's weird sometimes to see people so set in every single one of their political views. The more I learn the more what I used to believe tends to fluctuate.

Sin Studly
02-15-2007, 02:06 PM
If you think it's interesting: I'm 18 years old and I study mathematics on university. I'm also in the seascouts. The rest you know allready I guess, or you could guess: hanging around with anarchists, going to some actions...
Right now, I'm enjoying life really, cuz I'm growing out of my parents house and I'm not tired yet of taking care of myself.

What are the seascouts, and do Belgian anarchists do anything but get their faces stomped by Flemish seperatists? What kind of auctions do you go to?

wheelchairman
02-15-2007, 04:07 PM
What kind of auctions do you go to?

Actions, she means politically motivated actions, like demonstrations. Auctions would've been cooler. :(

NOAMR
02-16-2007, 04:56 AM
What are the seascouts, and do Belgian anarchists do anything but get their faces stomped by Flemish seperatists? What kind of auctions do you go to?

Seascouts is like a normal scouts, except that we go on the water from a certain age. So we sail and row a lot.

I've organised an action against a tankstation they won't to build in our neighbourhood, in a valley. I've also gone to a demo for people without papers, and for a group of Roma which has no other possibility then to squat. They're put out of their houses, and have to go from the one squat to another, they had to move several times in a couple of months. The only solution the town gave, was to put them in army barracks, surrounded by fences. There are a lot of little chidren in the group. A couple of years ago they have "deported" a big group of Roma, they had attract them with the story that they were going to be regulised. Luckely, right now, no-one went to the army barracks(they are legal in our country right now, but still aren't allow to do normal work.

I often just hang around with anarchists, drinking something etc, just like with other people. Anarchists often squad here, right now it's moving to the smaller villages(in the big towns, they are used to it, so it doesn't have that much effect anymore). They are also often busy with other topics, like antglobalisation, anti-capitalist actions, open-border...

wheelchairman
02-16-2007, 05:37 AM
Wow reading your post makes me so happy I never actually went to a communist party meeting. Man your life must suck. Thanks for making my day! :)

Sin Studly
02-16-2007, 09:14 AM
I've organised an action against a tankstation they won't to build in our neighbourhood, in a valley.

What's wrong with tankstations? Cars need petrol, and petrol needs to be moved around the nation.


but still aren't allow to do normal work.

Laws stopping the Roma from taking jobs are like laws banning people from travelling backwards through time.

RickyCrack
02-16-2007, 10:19 AM
Who really gives a serious fuck about gypsies?

NOAMR
02-16-2007, 10:27 AM
What's wrong with tankstations? Cars need petrol, and petrol needs to be moved around the nation.

Petrol is a big cause for global warming, and cars cause a lot of fine dust which create illness. But I'm not against tankstations, people also need it. This tankstation is just build in a piece of nature, and there are allready a lot of tankstations in the neighbourhood. If they would want to build something else, I would perhaps have also protested. A tankstation in the neighbourhood is also a danger, and can cause a lot of bad stuff in our water. It can only come there because the builders are friends with the local government, so I don't trust it.




Laws stopping the Roma from taking jobs are like laws banning people from travelling backwards through time.


These people want to work(they can also have often a statut of independent, which mean they are wc-lady or bring the papers, boring jobs where you don't receive much from).

wheelchairman
02-16-2007, 10:46 AM
Who really gives a serious fuck about gypsies?
The same kind of people who donate to UNICEF.

RickyCrack
02-16-2007, 11:02 AM
Whenever I used the subway in Prague there'd always be one gypsie begging for money, walking around with her hands out looking for spare Koruns. This always bothered me because there were actually plenty of good gypsies on the streets willing to play the accordion and shit for a few spare coins.

the_GoDdEsS
02-16-2007, 11:27 AM
Whenever I used the subway in Prague there'd always be one gypsie begging for money, walking around with her hands out looking for spare Koruns. This always bothered me because there were actually plenty of good gypsies on the streets willing to play the accordion and shit for a few spare coins.

Yeah, that's one of their ways of getting money. Usually there's a small child going around the street begging for "koruna" and when they hear a foreign language they switch to "euro". This is everywhere in Eastern European cities and mostly only foreigners give them money. But like you pointed out, they have a talent for music so somebody playing is less annoying than beggars.

Sin Studly
02-16-2007, 01:54 PM
These people want to work.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Jakebert
02-16-2007, 03:24 PM
I like having NOAMR back. His posts are hilarious, even if he doesn't realize it.

the_GoDdEsS
02-16-2007, 03:30 PM
Well, it's a she.

Sin Studly
02-16-2007, 04:16 PM
http://www.offspring.com/ofe/content/photos/fullsize/1708623853-N1762-N2384.JPG

Why is the black text in English instead of Dutch/French?

Little_Miss_1565
02-16-2007, 11:52 PM
"Never gonna find me"? Offspring Dutch graffiti? :P

Sin Studly
02-17-2007, 12:34 AM
Belgians are so pathetic. They should be annexed off to France and Holland. They don't deserve their own nation, my country has farms bigger than Belgium.

XYlophonetreeZ
02-17-2007, 04:06 AM
"I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE CONTROLLED!"

Oh NOAMR's graffiti is just too fucking funny. Ya ya ya ya ya.

Whiplash
02-17-2007, 10:23 AM
Belgians are so pathetic. They should be annexed off to France and Holland. They don't deserve their own nation, my country has farms bigger than Belgium.


Well, actually your biggest farm is about the same size al Belgium, Still that is pretty damm big( for a farm that is).

And i agree on the annex part, we need more space to dump our trash. I say Belgium is as good a place as any.

Sin Studly
02-19-2007, 12:11 AM
It's 3,500 km2 bigger than Belgium.

You can have Flanders, France can have Wallonia. Agreed?

Whiplash
02-19-2007, 03:01 AM
Agreed, the belgiums are so stupid they won't even notice they are under our control.

nieh
02-19-2007, 06:14 AM
Belgians are so pathetic. They should be annexed off to France and Holland.

I don't know what you expect him to do with a whole country.

Sin Studly
02-19-2007, 06:20 AM
He could use it to conquer Iraq.

Whiplash
02-19-2007, 07:46 AM
I don't know what you expect him to do with a whole country.


I don't you can consider belgium to be a country, more a like a former dutch province. Or Hollands backyard.