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Tijs
02-01-2007, 02:24 PM
So it was released a few days ago. I've got myself a copy and I've installed it on my (32bit) computer. Although it looks pretty good, a bit Apple-like, I'm having trouble with it.

No internet, but I can acces our home network and other computers on it;
Occasional crashing;
Some setup files don't work;
It tries to hard look too good.

In the limited spare time I have these days, I can't seem to figure it out, so any solutions are more than welcome.

Also, how do you (dis)like it?

All About Eve
02-01-2007, 10:19 PM
I would have to upgrade some stuff to get it. My graphics card is shit, among other things. And the visual format is just a bit dizzying for some reason. I don't think I'll be going out of my way to get it.

Jebus
02-01-2007, 10:49 PM
The only reason why I'm eventually going to upgrade to Vista is because microsoft decided to be a little bitch and unnecessarily integrate DirectX 10 into the core of the operating system which means no DX10 for XP ever. I'll probably wait until the first service pack comes out so I won't have to deal with any major quirks/bugs.

DexterWannabe
02-01-2007, 11:18 PM
macintosh is the shit.... :D
but is the new windows good? can someone post a screenshot?

RickyCrack
02-01-2007, 11:31 PM
I lol @ macintosh.

"Hey, I totally want to upgrade my box with new hardware pieces like better video cards and memory sticks, can I do that with a mac?"

"lol, no fag."

DeAtHsTaR
02-01-2007, 11:49 PM
macintosh is shit....


Fixed .

Endymion
02-02-2007, 01:07 AM
"Hey, I totally want to upgrade my box with new hardware pieces like better video cards and memory sticks, can I do that with a mac?"

"lol, no fag."

yes you can.

Zeall
02-02-2007, 05:44 AM
I've had it about a month (being part of the Microsoft Partner Program means you get things earlier than release) and i had a bit of trouble at the start with a few things not installing etc, but if something fails, vista goes off and gets the updates for you, so i've had no problems over the last three weeks (although i don't have the Home version so i dunno how buggy that version is)

when i get home i'll upload some screenshots for you if you want

HornyPope
02-02-2007, 05:44 AM
I'm waiting for the criticism and the subsequant fixes to weight on if I want that or just get ubuntu once and for all.

Zeall
02-02-2007, 05:47 AM
One thing that did annoy me was when i tried to install my Zune software yesterday, it said "the operating system does not support Zune" so i was pissed of and clicked "OK"

But then Vista went off and found the necessary drivers for it, DL'ed them and then restarted the installation CD for me all at once, and it worked

Zeall
02-02-2007, 05:50 AM
So it was released a few days ago. I've got myself a copy and I've installed it on my (32bit) computer. Although it looks pretty good, a bit Apple-like, I'm having trouble with it.

No internet, but I can acces our home network and other computers on it;
Occasional crashing;
Some setup files don't work;
It tries to hard look too good.

In the limited spare time I have these days, I can't seem to figure it out, so any solutions are more than welcome.

Also, how do you (dis)like it?

can you go into detail about some of the errors? have you checked the event viewer to see what might be causing them?

(sorry for the multiple posts)

Judge B
02-02-2007, 06:03 AM
Some computer expert said in radio that there's no point get Vista now. There's no drivers for hardware, you have to buy new hardware etc. He also said that recommend Vista only for true geeks who like to play with computers more.

I agree.

Bazza
02-02-2007, 06:13 AM
Well Microsoft have pledge their support for XP until about 2010/11, so I guess after that everyone will have switched to Vista, and any possible bugs will have been sorted out. I think I'm going to wait a while, maybe until I get a new laptop, and I definately don't see the point in paying however much it is to upgrade XP to Vista.

Nina
02-02-2007, 06:16 AM
I heard Vista sucks balls and is way too slow on PCs that didnt just come on the market.

What I'd like to know is, how much time do you think it will take until the followup of Vista comes out?

Bazza
02-02-2007, 06:16 AM
I heard Vista sucks balls and is way too slow on PCs that didnt just come on the market.

What I'd like to know is, how much time do you think it will take until the followup of Vista comes out?

Apparantly this is the last major release from Microsoft for a very long time.

Nina
02-02-2007, 06:18 AM
Ooh, really? I heard rumours that said the opposite, and that it wouldnt be worth getting Vista either way. Now I'm a little lost.

Judge B
02-02-2007, 06:20 AM
Well Microsoft have pledge their support for XP until about 2010/11, so I guess after that everyone will have switched to Vista, and any possible bugs will have been sorted out.

It depends what big corporations will do. MS probably continues XP support couple years more.

Besides after 2010 I'm ready to buy Vista. :)

Bazza
02-02-2007, 06:22 AM
Personally I think XP works fine at the moment so I'm just going to wait a little bit, let others have the problems. Rumours always fly around so I guess no one knows the truth really!!

Judge B
02-02-2007, 06:50 AM
Rumours always fly around so I guess no one knows the truth really!!

Even MS doesn't know "the XP dumping date" right now. It impossible to predict that. :)

Zeall
02-02-2007, 07:20 AM
Basically, if it isn't broken, don't fix it.

If your XP doing the job that you want it to do, there is no need to upgrade, i only put my copy on because XP media centre was pissing around, and the bastards at HP didn't give me a recovery disc, they only partitioned my drive with a shitty recovery section (which i'm going to replace)

Also, i like to play with new toys :D

Tijs
02-02-2007, 08:15 AM
Apparantly this is the last major release from Microsoft for a very long time.
A few days ago I saw an interview with the guy who was in control of designing Vista. He said they're already working on a new design for the new Windows. Although he probably means that they're just putting some ideas on the table just in case there's going to be a new windows within the next few years, you'll never know.


can you go into detail about some of the errors? have you checked the event viewer to see what might be causing them?

(sorry for the multiple posts)I haven't had time yet to check that, but...:


I'll probably wait until the first service pack comes out so I won't have to deal with any major quirks/bugs.I think I'm with you on that one, I'm going back to XP for now.

All About Eve
02-02-2007, 09:33 AM
I think it's only 15% of computers that can even run Vista without upgrading first.

The Talking Pie
02-02-2007, 10:47 AM
Blackcomb, the code-name for the next version of Windows, has a scheduled release date of between 2009 and 2012, last I heard. Of course, Vista (or Longhorn) was supposed to be 2003-2005, and for a while Vista wasn't even going to exist, and Blackcomb was going to be the next big thing.

Point being, Microsoft take their sweet time, and the fact that the next version is already underway means nothing. Vista was started some months before XP shipped, and it's turned out to be the longest wait ever between Windows releases.

I'm going to wait until I get a new PC, but only because laptops are such a pain to upgrade (short of a little RAM, however, all of my systems are fine for Vista). That and I'm a moneyless bum once more.

Concerning the '15%' figure, if that's accurate then I'd say it makes Vista pretty damn compatible (people have really overestimated its system requirements, which, true, in the early days of its design were speculated to be so much higher). Just consider that the majority of PCs out there are years-old hand-me-downs.

Paint_It_Black
02-02-2007, 12:19 PM
My friend just bought a new computer a few days ago and managed to get Vista a few days before release. He's having some issues, but nothing exceptionally bad. Mostly problems finding correct drivers and things like that. I personally wouldn't ever buy an operating system until it's been out for a while. I don't feel like being the guinea pig.

Marco
02-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Mac is better. Anyway, if you want Vista, buy it after a year, so that you get a version without the problems of the first version.

wheelchairman
02-02-2007, 04:17 PM
Let's see. It'll probably be a while for XP is useless, even for an IT-ignoramus like myself. But it will happen eventually. And I wouldn't buy Vista now anyways, but it'll be a coherent and congruent system within a year maybe, who knows.

I'm glad it's such a long time before release dates. Windows 95, 97, XP that was such a pain in the ass. By the time XP was out, our 95 was worthless. And 95/97 was almost exactly the same, just different keyboard shortcuts.

arak0r
02-02-2007, 04:50 PM
ill wait for sp1

Lodat225
02-02-2007, 04:59 PM
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070202.jpg

Duskygrin
02-02-2007, 05:06 PM
F-A-I-L.

Anyway. Hmm I'm still trying to fig out the diff between XP & 98/00 version. As for Vista, I don't grasp the improvement either. I'll update when I ditch my current laptop, quite simply. I'm too lame to even think of upgrading on my own. & furthermore, I don't see the point.

0r4ng3
02-02-2007, 05:39 PM
Haha Lodat, I was thinking of posting that one.

I think I'd get Vista AIDS, purely out of curiosity.

JohnnyNemesis
02-02-2007, 05:40 PM
The strip Lodat posted was total win/I was gonna post it too.

Lodat225
02-02-2007, 08:38 PM
Haha Lodat, I was thinking of posting that one.

I think I'd get Vista AIDS, purely out of curiosity.

I would so get it too. I mean, it's AIDS.

Tijs
02-03-2007, 10:29 AM
Bwah, my XP disc is scratched so I'm going to try Vista again. So far it's working better than the first time I installed it, but I've only installed my videocard and Winamp.


He's having some issues, but nothing exceptionally bad. Mostly problems finding correct drivers and things like that.Drivers seem to be the cause of my problems too. I'll have to figure it out sometime next week.

Lodat225
02-03-2007, 10:40 AM
http://break.com/index/how_to_properly_load_vista.html

Tijs
02-03-2007, 10:53 AM
That was uninspired.

Tijs
02-04-2007, 01:17 PM
Finally, I got my PC to work with Vista! Also, with internet! Also, it runs smoothly (for now)! Also, design looks great and is easy to use! Also, IE7 sucks!

Biggest offspring fan
02-04-2007, 03:12 PM
I am going to buy a new laptop soon. Should i buy it with vista? Is it worth it?

Jebus
02-04-2007, 03:16 PM
I believe any new computer will automatically be shipped with Vista now.

Amiralanal
02-04-2007, 03:19 PM
Welcome to the wienerschnitzel may i take your order?

Grabbal
02-04-2007, 03:32 PM
Finally, I got my PC to work with Vista! Also, with internet! Also, it runs smoothly (for now)! Also, design looks great and is easy to use! Also, IE7 sucks!

Could you plz post a picture??

Need to see it on someones computer in action..

Tijs
02-04-2007, 04:19 PM
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3729/untitledrx8.th.png (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledrx8.png) http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3874/untitled2nm2.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2nm2.jpg)
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5016/untitled3oa5.th.png (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3oa5.png) http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2116/untitled4ck1.th.png (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled4ck1.png)

0r4ng3
02-04-2007, 04:24 PM
That first screenshot reminds me of Mac OS X. Or whatever it's called.

Sunny
02-04-2007, 04:29 PM
windows vista makes me giggle. eehehee.


I lol @ macintosh.

"Hey, I totally want to upgrade my box with new hardware pieces like better video cards and memory sticks, can I do that with a mac?"

"lol, no fag."

i just got extra memory for my mac... so uhh wtfbbq? where'd you get THAT?

Jebus
02-04-2007, 05:39 PM
From what I've seen, Vista's interface doesn't seem that impressive. What I really want to try beryl with ubuntu (linux).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpIhoLzDOTY
I admit there's a bit too much useless eye candy, but seriously, it's all awesome.

I've haven't been able to get ubuntu working ever since I got my new video card though. =[

Endymion
02-04-2007, 06:02 PM
From what I've seen, Vista's interface doesn't seem that impressive. What I really want to try beryl with ubuntu (linux).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lawkc3jH3ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpIhoLzDOTY
I admit there's a bit too much useless eye candy, but seriously, it's all awesome.

I've haven't been able to get ubuntu working ever since I got my new video card though. =[

i use beryl on my fedora core system. works like a charm, and you can tweak *everything*. don't like something? turn it off. or make it faster, or more subtle. ten different ways to maximize/minimize windows -- take your pick. etc etc etc etc etc.

Lodat225
02-04-2007, 06:26 PM
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3729/untitledrx8.th.png (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledrx8.png) http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3874/untitled2nm2.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2nm2.jpg)
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5016/untitled3oa5.th.png (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled3oa5.png) http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2116/untitled4ck1.th.png (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled4ck1.png)

Those look pretty awesome.

JohnnyNemesis
02-04-2007, 10:11 PM
That first screenshot reminds me of Mac OS X. Or whatever it's called.

That's because its a shameless ripoff of Mac OS X.

Zeall
02-05-2007, 04:45 AM
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20060513

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20031226

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20021126

MrJoe
04-11-2007, 03:38 PM
Just for another opinion.

I got my free upgrade in the post yesterday, and had some spare time to upgrade my laptop to Vista Home Premium.

It took an hour and a half, went reasonably smoothly.
Have to say so far, apart from one little error message that pops up after booting up and logging on, its running pretty smoothly, and just as quick, if not smoother, than my previous O/S, XP Media Centre Edition.

Anyone else got Vista recently?

Llamas
04-11-2007, 03:42 PM
Question:

I got a new laptop in January. They told me that when I registered my computer, I'd get the free upgrade in the mail. I registered it in Austria, but I haven't gotten anything. How do I check to make sure I'm registered for sure, and that I put the right address?

Grabbal
04-11-2007, 03:43 PM
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3729/untitledrx8.th.png (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledrx8.png) [/URL] [URL=http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled4ck1.png]http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2116/untitled4ck1.th.png (http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5016/untitled3oa5.th.png[/IMG)

Wow, I'm in these. Never saw that.

MrJoe
04-11-2007, 05:39 PM
Question:

I got a new laptop in January. They told me that when I registered my computer, I'd get the free upgrade in the mail. I registered it in Austria, but I haven't gotten anything. How do I check to make sure I'm registered for sure, and that I put the right address?

What make is your laptop? You're definitely eligible for a free upgrade if you got a laptop or PC between October '06 and March '07.

Llamas
04-11-2007, 05:42 PM
I have a Toshiba.

MrJoe
04-11-2007, 05:50 PM
I have an Acer, and used a very similar webpage to send off for mine.

Here's the Toshiba one:

https://upgradeweb.moduslink.com/vista/ConsumerWebsite/(S(egelfz55mawkqwrjnh3enu45))/GlobalLandingPage.aspx?oem=toshibatais

Llamas
04-11-2007, 05:59 PM
Crap... I wonder if I kept my receipt... oh man...

TheOldMark
04-11-2007, 09:14 PM
So it was released a few days ago. I've got myself a copy and I've installed it on my (32bit) computer. Although it looks pretty good, a bit Apple-like, I'm having trouble with it.

No internet, but I can acces our home network and other computers on it;
Occasional crashing;
Some setup files don't work;
It tries to hard look too good.

In the limited spare time I have these days, I can't seem to figure it out, so any solutions are more than welcome.

Also, how do you (dis)like it?

vista is awful. much of the software you use for XP is not compatible with vista. My enterprise edition of Symantec Security wont work on vista, Im sure as hell not buying a new one. I wont allow vista on any of the computers in my office, I refuse to support it. It has too many bugs. I would not upgrade until Microsoft is able to tweak it. You shouldnt use Vista unless u get a new computer, and even then your pretty fucked.

Jebus
04-11-2007, 09:52 PM
lol, symantec.

Llamas
04-11-2007, 09:53 PM
lol, I agree.

Endymion
04-12-2007, 12:49 AM
lol, you have to use anti virus programs.

The Talking Pie
04-12-2007, 01:12 AM
vista is awful. much of the software you use for XP is not compatible with vista. My enterprise edition of Symantec Security wont work on vista, Im sure as hell not buying a new one. I wont allow vista on any of the computers in my office, I refuse to support it. It has too many bugs. I would not upgrade until Microsoft is able to tweak it. You shouldnt use Vista unless u get a new computer, and even then your pretty fucked.

Saying that Vista being incompatible is a downside is like complaining that your Mac won't run your favourite Windows programs (and I'm ignoring emulators/virtual machines, here, because they would solve the Vista problem like they would my hypothetical Mac problem). People complained to high heaven when Microsoft didn't change their OS under the hood with each release. Sometimes you need to lose backward compatibility to progress with better functionality as a whole.

Also, it's up to software manufacturers to ensure their products run on a system. A lot of people have refused to do so or have simply left it too late.

What 'bugs' does Vista have, also, may I ask?

Endymion
04-12-2007, 01:27 AM
to the best of my knowledge the only major bug on vista so far is that animated cursor thing, and IE7's extended protection mode blocked it too.

MrJoe
04-12-2007, 04:06 AM
vista is awful. much of the software you use for XP is not compatible with vista. My enterprise edition of Symantec Security wont work on vista, Im sure as hell not buying a new one. I wont allow vista on any of the computers in my office, I refuse to support it. It has too many bugs. I would not upgrade until Microsoft is able to tweak it. You shouldnt use Vista unless u get a new computer, and even then your pretty fucked.

Vista has been fine for me, running pretty much everything on it that it ran on XP. I did the upgrade and didn't lose any files or settings either. Symantec is definitely 'lol'.

Grabbal
04-12-2007, 06:09 AM
Is it true that there are a lot of games Vista can't play??
If so are they going to fix it so that those games can be played in the future??

Tijs
04-12-2007, 06:43 AM
I only tried playing Call of Duty 2, which didn't work. You can fix it though, but I didn't even try since I was going to switch back to XP anyway.

Grabbal
04-12-2007, 06:45 AM
Good thing I have XP then cause I often play that game.

Tijs
04-12-2007, 06:48 AM
Online? I'd totally kick your ass.

Grabbal
04-12-2007, 06:50 AM
I don't think I can play online considering I downloaded the game, but judging from my in-game skills I'd kick you ass online.:cool:

Tijs
04-12-2007, 06:51 AM
There are cracked servers. And I think you can create a server and others can join. Care to give it a try?

Grabbal
04-12-2007, 06:52 AM
Sure, but what do I do??

Jojan
04-12-2007, 06:54 AM
What I've seen from the Internet, it looks more and more like MacOS X. And from what I've heard and read; it sucks. Linux and Mac will probably peak now.

Tijs
04-12-2007, 06:54 AM
You're in my MSN list, right? Get online if you can.

TheOldMark
04-12-2007, 10:15 AM
Saying that Vista being incompatible is a downside is like complaining that your Mac won't run your favourite Windows programs (and I'm ignoring emulators/virtual machines, here, because they would solve the Vista problem like they would my hypothetical Mac problem). People complained to high heaven when Microsoft didn't change their OS under the hood with each release. Sometimes you need to lose backward compatibility to progress with better functionality as a whole.

Also, it's up to software manufacturers to ensure their products run on a system. A lot of people have refused to do so or have simply left it too late.

What 'bugs' does Vista have, also, may I ask?

I dont agree with your analogy, you are comparing two different platforms notoriously incompatible with eachother, to a product upgrade.

Im not using Vista so its hard for me to get into great detail. besides software apps crashing or just not running, vista tends to shutdown whenever it wants. My sisters machine has some trouble waking up from sleep mode, ect.

The Talking Pie
04-12-2007, 12:06 PM
You are misunderstanding my analogy. The point is that Vista isn't just an upgrade. It's a completely new OS. They gutted XP and started pretty much from scratch with Vista. So much so that it uses emulation to run some previous Windows software. Like how the PS3 (and PS2, maybe? I'm not a gamer, so I don't know...) required emulation software/hardware to run previous games, even though it was the 'same' system, and some then still didn't work.

Use the damn system before you criticise it.

I've been using it for months now, and I haven't had a single crash. Neither has it shut down randomly. Tell your sister to take a look at the power settings; they're massively improved/complicated over those of XP, and the default power settings are geared towards shutting things down when they're not in use to save power.

TheOldMark
04-12-2007, 12:59 PM
I've been using it for months now, and I haven't had a single crash. Neither has it shut down randomly. Tell your sister to take a look at the power settings; they're massively improved/complicated over those of XP, and the default power settings are geared towards shutting things down when they're not in use to save power.

perhaps the european version runs more smoothly.

RickyCrack
04-12-2007, 01:03 PM
perhaps the european version runs more smoothly.

You're retarded and a faggot.

JohnnyNemesis
04-12-2007, 01:05 PM
perhaps the european version runs more smoothly.

Is it humanly possible for you to ever be wrong about anything, ever? Just curious, please don't fly off the handle.

Jebus
04-12-2007, 02:32 PM
perhaps the european version runs more smoothly.
Nope. They're exactly the same thing except some software isn't included due to the some antitrust issues.

The Talking Pie
04-12-2007, 03:19 PM
And in any event, that doesn't apply to the UK version, which is the one in question.

Jebus
04-12-2007, 03:28 PM
Oh, I just remembered that only applies N editions. I forgot those were separate from editions from the other ones.

Zeall
04-12-2007, 05:04 PM
I have had one BSoD on Vista but that is due to my own fault (trying to run WoW, convert video formats and sychronise to my Zune all at once) otherwise, it's been a great OS, much better than XP

A little tip if anyone's interested (unless it has been said) is to turn of Aero, it saved me a chunk of RAM which i need for the daily tasks i do, it may help your system a tad bit too.

MrJoe
04-13-2007, 03:20 AM
I've left that on but things have been running really smoothly as always at the moment. I might try turning it off to see if it could run even quicker though.

One thing I have noticed, is that since installing Vista, my laptop loads up much quicker. Not that it was slow anyway.

Grabbal
04-13-2007, 07:03 AM
One thing I have noticed, is that since installing Vista, my laptop loads up much quicker. Not that it was slow anyway.

The exact opposite thing is happening to a friend of mine.

Endymion
04-13-2007, 08:06 AM
I have had one BSoD on Vista but that is due to my own fault (trying to run WoW, convert video formats and sychronise to my Zune all at once)

how is that your fault? the os *should* support being able to multitask to that degree, that's its job.

yay
05-12-2007, 10:32 PM
I recently got Vista Ultimate. It doesn't crash when I install new versions of programs, and runs Microsoft Office better than ever before. Only problem is it is a bit resource hungry, and its networking seems to be unreasonably difficult compared to XP's.

All in all though I think this one could be the one that renders Mac OSX useless. Leopard doesn't look like its gonna be a patch on Vista, which wasn't something most people could say about XP and Jaguar at the time.