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Jakebert
04-02-2007, 12:40 PM
I know this is old news to be considered "breaking info", and a little early for a big speculation thread, but for those who haven't already heard, Bad Religion's new album "New Maps of Hell" is slated for release on July 10th, 2007.

Cover art:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Bad_Religion_-_New_Maps_of_Hell.jpg

Supposed track listing:

1.) "New Dark Ages"
2.) "Grains of Wrath"
3.) "Fields of Mars"
4.) "Germs of Perfection"
5.) "Requiem"
6.) "Submission Complete"
7.) "The Grand Delusion"
8.) "Honest Goodbye"
9.) "Prodigal Son"
10.) "Before You Die"
11.) "Lost Pilgrim"
12.) "Heroes and Martyrs"
13.) "Dearly Beloved"
14.) "New Chapter"
15.) "Murder"
16.) "52 Seconds"
17.) "Scrutiny"

The album title and song titles are fairly generic Bad Religion, but still seems somewhat interesting anyway. I like the last 2 albums, so I'll probably be pretty excited come late June. I'm not big on the album cover, seeing as it reeks of the lame "Graffiti" design style that's been plastered everywhere lately.

H1T_That
04-02-2007, 01:26 PM
I agree, it does reek of generic influences.

Ninty Man
04-03-2007, 06:19 PM
Well... the cover isn't that good (well... bad religion album's covers are not precisely the best), but I hope they can get better stuff that the orgasmic Empire strikes first

Little_Miss_1565
04-03-2007, 06:53 PM
huhuh get it, Graffiti...Graffin...lololol

Jakebert
04-04-2007, 03:55 AM
If I wasn't so lazy, I'd pull an 0r4ng3 and find the Nothing Nice to Say that has the "What do you call a punk rocker with a skin disease?" "Greg GRAFTon" joke.

0r4ng3
04-04-2007, 07:08 AM
The funny thing is that I actually did that very thing after reading that post. However I couldn't find it and gave up.

Homer
04-04-2007, 06:48 PM
Apparently it's supposed to sound (or... have the energy) like the good ol' HCHBAW days. Also, they're pretty much done recording, just need back-up crap to be done. But you probably already new that, if you frequent The BR Page.

bouncingcoles
04-04-2007, 07:53 PM
im very excited about this new album.

Short_Attention_Span
04-04-2007, 11:12 PM
If I wasn't so lazy, I'd pull an 0r4ng3 and find the Nothing Nice to Say that has the "What do you call a punk rocker with a skin disease?" "Greg GRAFTon" joke.

You mean...

This one? (http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/index.php?pageNum_Recordset2=297)

What happened to that comic though? There hasn't been a new one in forever...

Anyway... I'm kind of excited for the next album. I liked The Empire Strikes First so, maybe this one will be good too. Although, I'm getting a vibe that this may be their last one, especially since the title and artwork is kind of reminiscient of How Could Hell Be Any Worse? That might just be me though.
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Venom Symbiote
04-05-2007, 04:22 AM
You know what I don't fucking understand?

How everyone seems to hate The Process Of Belief, yet enjoy The Empire Strikes First.

Ridiculosityness.

Process as far as I'm concerned, is among like the top three records they've ever released. I guess the political factor was toned down for once, and the hippy trupunx kids turned nuts.

0r4ng3
04-05-2007, 06:47 AM
I happen to like them both, but I like Empire a teeny bit more. Maybe it has to do with the political aspect, but I think I just like the music itself better.

Little_Miss_1565
04-05-2007, 08:05 AM
They were trying so fucking hard to recreate the old magic with Process of Belief that they failed at writing solid, good songs. "Kyoto Now"? Are you fucking kidding me? With Empire, they started actually hitting their old stride.

Venom Symbiote
04-05-2007, 08:31 AM
Well, yeah, but "Kyoto Now" is one of the weaker songs on that record, along with "Materialist".

Things like "Evangeline", "The Defense", "Epiphany" and even those three somewhat stereotypical BR short-and-buzz-saw-y songs at the start, all good shit.

As for their politics, I've never been someone who really agrees with their stance, but weirdly enough I've always loved their music. It's never bothered me before, but for some reason it did with Empire. Ugh. It just gets old real quick on that album. It's more blunt and preachy than usual, or something. And before you say it, yeah, I know Graffin has ALWAYS been blunt and preachy. It's just never irritated me before now.

bouncingcoles
04-05-2007, 08:51 AM
i love the process of belief and empire strikes first. but i hope the new album is lyrically less like empire strikes first.

0r4ng3
04-05-2007, 09:08 AM
I think they mentioned somewhere that the lyrics are more abstract concepts than factual events. Like for example, they're not gonna do a song about iRaq.

Take from that what you will, but I think it'll be lyrically closer to Process.

JohnnyNemesis
04-05-2007, 09:10 AM
The New America was so fucking horrible that I've boycotted the band since, so anytime someone talks about any album released since then it's like a foreign language to me. It all just blurs together. All I really know about the albums past that one is that "Sorrow" was decent but way too cheesy to listen to more than three times.

Well, I didn't really boycott the band, I just completely and thoroughly lost interest in Bad Religion since that piece of shit album.

Eccentric Sara
04-05-2007, 10:18 AM
[quote=Venom Symbiote;990671]You know what I don't fucking understand?

How everyone seems to hate The Process Of Belief, yet enjoy The Empire Strikes First.

Ridiculosityness.

[quote]
The Process Of Belief is an amazing album! How can ppl hate it?

Short_Attention_Span
04-05-2007, 10:53 AM
The New America was so fucking horrible that I've boycotted the band since

That album sucked. It has maybe one good song, but apart from that, it makes a good coaster.


You know what I don't fucking understand?

How everyone seems to hate The Process Of Belief, yet enjoy The Empire Strikes First..

I don't hate The Process of Belief. I like it better than Empire. Empire had some good songs, but it also had it low points. It was good overall...
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Homer
04-05-2007, 06:15 PM
Hey, I like Kyoto Now!...

Ninty Man
04-05-2007, 09:53 PM
The New America was so fucking horrible that I've boycotted the band since, so anytime someone talks about any album released since then it's like a foreign language to me. It all just blurs together. All I really know about the albums past that one is that "Sorrow" was decent but way too cheesy to listen to more than three times.

Well, I didn't really boycott the band, I just completely and thoroughly lost interest in Bad Religion since that piece of shit album.

I really like it (except my computer song... that sux)

Little_Miss_1565
04-05-2007, 11:02 PM
I think they mentioned somewhere that the lyrics are more abstract concepts than factual events. Like for example, they're not gonna do a song about iRaq.

Take from that what you will, but I think it'll be lyrically closer to Process.

Bah...it's the being vague and concepty that irritates me. A good song is written in the most specific manner possible. John Vanderslice wrote an amazing verse about 9/11 because he made it about one person's experience watching it on TV and talking about it on the phone with someone, keeping it in that moment and not even trying to make any sweeping judgments about it. And in the process, he captured the most grand of emotions about it. Ya gotta be specific in order to get at the abstract concepts.


The New America was so fucking horrible that I've boycotted the band since, so anytime someone talks about any album released since then it's like a foreign language to me. It all just blurs together. All I really know about the albums past that one is that "Sorrow" was decent but way too cheesy to listen to more than three times.

Well, I didn't really boycott the band, I just completely and thoroughly lost interest in Bad Religion since that piece of shit album.

"The New America" is catchy as hell, "The Hopeless Housewife" is pretty good as well, "Don't Sell Me Short" is as close to the classics as they've come in a long, long time. But yeah, the rest of that album is pretty worthless.

Venom Symbiote
04-05-2007, 11:04 PM
I think they mentioned somewhere that the lyrics are more abstract concepts than factual events. Like for example, they're not gonna do a song about iRaq.

Are you talking about the new album? If you're meaning in general, they already pretty-much did. "Let Them Eat War", etc. Pretty sure there are a few others on Empire directly referencing the War On Terror, etc. Haven't listened to it in a while, but lyrically I seem to remember some hints there.

Eccentric Sara, people do hate it. Most BR fans, anyway, especially the "old schoolers". I mean, apart from the classics like Suffer and Against the Grain and Recipe For Hate, etc, it's probably my favourite. Definitely their best "newer" album, no contest.

JohnnyNemesis
04-06-2007, 07:13 AM
"The New America" is catchy as hell, "The Hopeless Housewife" is pretty good as well, "Don't Sell Me Short" is as close to the classics as they've come in a long, long time. But yeah, the rest of that album is pretty worthless.

I hated those three songs passionately. "You've Got a Chance" and "1000 Memories" are the only songs I liked.

Llamas
04-06-2007, 07:25 AM
I don't have all their albums... I have All Ages, Recipe for Hate, Stranger than Fiction, Suffer, the Grey Race, The New America and Generator. Stranger than Fiction is by far my favorite, and New America is my least favorite.

I mostly agree with Ricky.

Little_Miss_1565
04-06-2007, 07:36 AM
I hated those three songs passionately. "You've Got a Chance" and "1000 Memories" are the only songs I liked.

LOL, and I hated THOSE two songs passionately. But not as much as I hated "Streetkid Named Desire."

JohnnyNemesis
04-06-2007, 07:43 AM
B-b-b-b-but...you were the oooooooooone. You were my everythiiiiiiiiing :(

At least we agree on Streetkid though.

Jakebert
04-06-2007, 07:55 AM
I don't mind the New America. I don't like it, but it's not one of those albums that I have sitting in my "I'm going to sell these someday" pile. I agree with 1565 on "The Hopeless Housewife". I have a soft spot for that song for some reason.

As for the 2 most recent ones- The Process was a fun album, even if it's not amazing. It's not on par with their older stuff, but I still listen to it occasionally.

I loved the first half of the Empire Strikes First, but the second half is a tad boring.

JohnnyNemesis
04-07-2007, 01:30 AM
Update: Upon second listen, "The New America" is still a horrible piece of shit album, but "The Hopeless Housewife" fucking rocks and puts me in "wtf was I thinking?" mode.

The song "New America" is unfathomably bad though oh my holy fuck :(

Jakebert
04-07-2007, 08:13 AM
Very much agreed. Musically it's just generic and dull, but listenable. But once you get those incredibly corny lyrics in there, holy hell, that song sucks.

F@ BANKZ
04-07-2007, 08:54 AM
They're going to be touring after right? If so i can see Agent Orange in a couple of months, then Bad Religion and i only have one more band to see then before i'm out of things to live for.

Ninty Man
04-08-2007, 05:46 PM
They're going to be touring after right? If so i can see Agent Orange in a couple of months, then Bad Religion and i only have one more band to see then before i'm out of things to live for.

MMM... I was listening Gray Race, and it's good... I think their worst album it's no susbtance.

OH, and Bobby Schayer was pretty weak in drums

Homer
04-10-2007, 03:33 PM
Dude, DUDE!

Bad Religion Santa Monica show set list!
Slaves
Along The Way
We're Only Gonna Die
Fuck Armageddon
Suffer
Do What You Want
No Control
You
Modern Man
21st century
Generator (festival)
Atomic Garden
Recipe For Hate
American Jesus
Stranger Than Fiction
Infected
Come Join Us
Supersonic
Prove It
Can't Stop It
Let Them Eat War
LA is burning
encore:
Heroes and Martyrs!!
Sorrow

Fuck, that show must've been awesome. Oh, and they're all in chronological order, if you didn't notice, but SLAVES? Damn, they haven't played that one in about 20 years. Oh, and Heroes and Martyrs... awesome.

EDIT:
Shit... this is awesome.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2021207200

You can definitely hear the influence from the old BR.

JohnnyNemesis
04-10-2007, 03:36 PM
"Do What You Want" and "You"...mmmmmmm.

Homer
04-10-2007, 03:56 PM
^ Hey, did you check out that video?

0r4ng3
04-10-2007, 04:28 PM
I saw the vid on Myspace yesterday. Not the best quality. It's also kind of a short song. Still, it was pretty good.

Homer
04-12-2007, 09:23 PM
http://rapidshare.com/files/25682720/Bad_Religion_-__live__Heroes_And_Martyrs__Vive_Latino_Festival_2 007_.mp3.html

Need I say more?

FrancoDaHui
04-13-2007, 07:05 AM
http://rapidshare.com/files/25682720/Bad_Religion_-__live__Heroes_And_Martyrs__Vive_Latino_Festival_2 007_.mp3.html

Need I say more?

Holy.Fucking.Shit

Homer, you're my new hero

Yatesy
04-13-2007, 12:42 PM
The new song sounds good, probably sound better with better sound quality but meh.

Amiralanal
04-13-2007, 01:54 PM
The chorus was mighty.

Homer
04-15-2007, 07:57 PM
You guys think it'd be a good idea if my band were to cover this song in under a month?

FrancoDaHui
04-16-2007, 07:08 AM
You guys think it'd be a good idea if my band were to cover this song in under a month?

that's a GREAT idea, i was thinking the same but sadly my band isn't punk :(


if you do you should post the video

cool 2 hate 681
04-16-2007, 11:38 AM
here are some new bad religion bootlegs if anyone wants them

videos from the BR show in Chile

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Bad+Religion+Chile+2007+imane ta&search=Search


Quilmes Festival 04.12.2007 Buenos Aires, AR (Radio Stream FM ROCK AND POP)

This is the full Performance in Mp3

Playlist

01) American Jesus
02) I Want To Conquer The World
03) Let Them Eat War
04) Supersonic
05) Prove It
06) Can´t Stop It
07) Sanity
08) No Control
09) Epiphany
10) 21st Century Digital Boy
11) Do What You Want
12) The Defense
13) Anesthesia
14) Infected
15) Los Angeles Is Burning
16) Suffer
17) Recipe For Hate
18) Generator
19) Heroes And Martyrs
20) Fuck Armageddon... This Is Hell
21) Along The Way
22) Sorrow
+
23) Interview


Mirror 1 : http://www.bigupload.com/d=6E16F490

Mirror 2 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OLQ7CL6I

Mirror 3 : http://www.filefactory.com/file/8155a0

update more videos

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=credicardhall+bad+religion&search=Search

http://showlivre.uol.com.br/videos.php?video_id=25973&conteudo_id=37&eventoId=2648&video_aberto=S

F@ BANKZ
04-17-2007, 12:03 PM
thanks a million:)
p.s. are they leaving America while touring?

Cejus
04-17-2007, 12:14 PM
I guess so... http://www.metrorock.net Although the tour dates in their website only include US dates.

F@ BANKZ
04-17-2007, 12:32 PM
Good to know, thanks a million & 1:)

Ninty Man
04-21-2007, 03:17 PM
here are some new bad religion bootlegs if anyone wants them

videos from the BR show in Chile

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Bad+Religion+Chile+2007+imane ta&search=Search


Quilmes Festival 04.12.2007 Buenos Aires, AR (Radio Stream FM ROCK AND POP)

This is the full Performance in Mp3

Playlist

01) American Jesus
02) I Want To Conquer The World
03) Let Them Eat War
04) Supersonic
05) Prove It
06) Can´t Stop It
07) Sanity
08) No Control
09) Epiphany
10) 21st Century Digital Boy
11) Do What You Want
12) The Defense
13) Anesthesia
14) Infected
15) Los Angeles Is Burning
16) Suffer
17) Recipe For Hate
18) Generator
19) Heroes And Martyrs
20) Fuck Armageddon... This Is Hell
21) Along The Way
22) Sorrow
+
23) Interview


Mirror 1 : http://www.bigupload.com/d=6E16F490

Mirror 2 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OLQ7CL6I

Mirror 3 : http://www.filefactory.com/file/8155a0

update more videos

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=credicardhall+bad+religion&search=Search

http://showlivre.uol.com.br/videos.php?video_id=25973&conteudo_id=37&eventoId=2648&video_aberto=S

It's the same playlist that they... play??? here in Mexico... fuckers

Homer
04-25-2007, 05:08 PM
Honest Goodbye (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J8ZJ9GO0)

Sounds poppy, but it's surprisingly catchy.

FrancoDaHui
04-25-2007, 06:05 PM
Honest Goodbye (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J8ZJ9GO0)

Sounds poppy, but it's surprisingly catchy.

im listening right now and i love it, their music have really grown

can't wait for the new album

Ninty Man
04-25-2007, 06:34 PM
im listening right now and i love it, their music have really grown

can't wait for the new album

It's FUCKING good... I'll buy the album after all... lend me money biatch

cool 2 hate 681
04-25-2007, 08:21 PM
from http://www.thebrpage.net/


01. 52 Seconds
02. Heroes & Martyrs
03. Germs of Perfection
04. New Dark Ages
05. Requiem for Dissent
06. Before You Die
07. Honest Goodbye
08. Dearly Beloved
09. Grains of Wrath
10. Murder
11. Scrutiny
12. Prodigal Son
13. The Grand Delusion
14. Lost Pilgrim
15. Submission Complete
16. Fields of Mars

As you can see, they've switched around the songs quite a bit. And, instead of the original 17 songs, there are only 16 now, as New Chapter has been dropped (maybe it'll resurface a a B-side?). Further, Requiem is now called Requiem for Dissent. This change might indicate the completion of the album.

Short_Attention_Span
04-25-2007, 08:29 PM
Honest Goodbye (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J8ZJ9GO0)

Sounds poppy, but it's surprisingly catchy.


KROQ's started playing it... it's not bad. It's probably another of one of Brett's attempts to write the perfect pop song. I like it.
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DeAtHsTaR
04-25-2007, 09:19 PM
It doesn't sound like Bad Religion, but I like it a lot.

Jakebert
04-26-2007, 12:01 PM
For some reason that site isn't working for me at all. Would someone be kind enough to upload it on a different site?

Homer
04-26-2007, 05:15 PM
For some reason that site isn't working for me at all. Would someone be kind enough to upload it on a different site?

Bam (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D643AB40286864CA).



Also, if you're at work or something and don't want to download it, it's on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW8ao3EI3ag), too.

Jakebert
04-27-2007, 03:29 AM
Awesome. Thanks a lot.

Jakebert
04-27-2007, 07:44 PM
I finally got around to listening to it, and I have to admit, I'm not impressed. The opening riff reminds me of Avril Lavinge, and the rest of it sounds like something straight off of No Substance or The New America.

Homer
04-27-2007, 10:35 PM
Yeah, that was my first reaction to the song. But don't worry, it'll grow on you, trust me. I actually like the song now after about 10 listens. Also, it's so much better if you actually know what the song's about. There's a discussion on The BR Page about what it means (Mr. Brett himself actually hinted as to what it was) and what we came up with was that it's pretty much heavily related to the story of the killer (Perry Smith) in the book In Cold Blood. Just put the lyrics with what you know about the book and you'll know what the song is about.


And the winner is... *drum roll please* AlMac! You nailed it sir! The song is about Perry Smith who was portrayed by Capote as a sympathetic, psychopathic killer - quite a paradox. The song asks how a man with seemingly gentile sensibilities can commit brutal heinous deeds. As to the many questions about the word "trasubstantiation", I simply meant to invoke Perry's early training in catholicism and the contrast between the profane (knuckle cracking nuns) and the sacred (receiving the eucharist), and the possiblility that these conflicting messages contributed to the make-up of the man he became.
Good Going AlMac, I'm very impressed. I honestly didn't think anybody could guess with the meager hint I gave. By the way Blood Meridian is one of my favorite books.
Best,
Brett

AlMac is the guy who suggested that it was related to In Cold Blood, obviously.

Ninty Man
04-28-2007, 10:38 PM
MMM... oh come on. No substance it's pure crap except Hear it... BUT NEW AMERICA FUCKING ROCKS

Homer
04-29-2007, 12:30 AM
Nah, New America sucks. A lot.

0r4ng3
04-30-2007, 10:36 PM
I can't possibly see how anyone can hate No Substance and love The New America, or vice versa. To me, they sound exactly the same.

Jakebert
05-01-2007, 03:35 AM
No Substance sounds like a pile of mush and the songs all run together. The New America has a few bright spots that stand out from the crap. So I can see how one would like one more than the other.

FrancoDaHui
05-01-2007, 09:55 AM
the new america > no substance

i love both albums, but i just cant stand that a lot of people that hate them are like "we want no control pt 2!!! tru punx!!!"

anyway, that's just what i think (and i've saw)

Ninty Man
05-01-2007, 10:40 PM
I can't possibly see how anyone can hate No Substance and love The New America, or vice versa. To me, they sound exactly the same.

No, in fact... New America has great songs... No Substance it's so crappy... that even Good Charlotte sounds mediocre for best to me

Jakebert
05-02-2007, 03:45 AM
I know english is not your first language, but wow, that was a confusing post.

FrancoDaHui
05-02-2007, 10:40 AM
No, in fact... New America has great songs... No Substance it's so crappy... that even Good Charlotte sounds mediocre for best to me

wtf??? i agree with jakebert

0r4ng3
05-02-2007, 10:43 AM
I think he's trying to say that even Good Charlotte sounds better (or the same, whatever) than No Substance. I don't agree with that, because I thoroughly enjoyed The Same Person, among others.

Ninty Man
05-02-2007, 07:15 PM
I think he's trying to say that even Good Charlotte sounds better (or the same, whatever) than No Substance. I don't agree with that, because I thoroughly enjoyed The Same Person, among others.

He understand it... and... yes... that part was awful XD

but NEw America rocks

FrancoDaHui
05-15-2007, 06:44 AM
honest goodbye is now in their myspace

clicky (http://www.myspace.com/badreligion)

Ninty Man
05-15-2007, 10:21 PM
honest goodbye is now in their myspace

clicky (http://www.myspace.com/badreligion)

Will you lend me money to buy the other Bad religion albums?

FrancoDaHui
05-16-2007, 05:34 PM
Will you lend me money to buy the other Bad religion albums?

NO! NO! FUCK NO!! STOP ASKING FOR FUCKING MONEY!!!

ok, i think they should put on their myspace the studio version of heroes and martyrs, the only version i have sounds awful

Ninty Man
05-16-2007, 06:54 PM
NO! NO! FUCK NO!! STOP ASKING FOR FUCKING MONEY!!!

ok, i think they should put on their myspace the studio version of heroes and martyrs, the only version i have sounds awful

LOL XD...

I love to make you piss off... dick

Homer
05-17-2007, 06:17 PM
Holy shit! Click NOW! (http://in.solit.us/archives/download/37603)

Heroes and Martyrs, leaked album version.

Venom Symbiote
05-17-2007, 06:54 PM
Chorus. Is. Mighty.

That's almost cheesy power-metal epic, right there. Loving it.

FrancoDaHui
05-18-2007, 07:42 AM
heroes and martyrs = win

but why does it say "bob ludwig's version" ??? :confused:

Ninty Man
05-19-2007, 10:38 PM
heroes and martyrs = win

but why does it say "bob ludwig's version" ??? :confused:

Maybe cause it's bob ludwig's version??

And fuck...it's great..my panties are wet

FrancoDaHui
05-21-2007, 09:11 AM
Maybe cause it's bob ludwig's version??


no shit, sherlock? i asked it because joe baresi is producing the record and maybe there's another version, duh

lametard

MaF
05-21-2007, 12:04 PM
Need 2 listen it more often 2 catch it up my mind...it's 2 short (or it's just demo?)...yeah, horus's good, but it sounded only twice...2 lil 4 such good chorus...

Ninty Man
05-21-2007, 06:30 PM
no shit, sherlock? i asked it because joe baresi is producing the record and maybe there's another version, duh

lametard

Fuck you pipope... and don't give me the crap of my virginess and fat ass-iness XD

It rocks anyway the song

RODNEYMULLEN
05-22-2007, 07:17 PM
I know this is old news to be considered "breaking info", and a little early for a big speculation thread, but for those who haven't already heard, Bad Religion's new album "New Maps of Hell" is slated for release on July 10th, 2007.

Cover art:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Bad_Religion_-_New_Maps_of_Hell.jpg

Supposed track listing:

1.) "New Dark Ages"
2.) "Grains of Wrath"
3.) "Fields of Mars"
4.) "Germs of Perfection"
5.) "Requiem"
6.) "Submission Complete"
7.) "The Grand Delusion"
8.) "Honest Goodbye"
9.) "Prodigal Son"
10.) "Before You Die"
11.) "Lost Pilgrim"
12.) "Heroes and Martyrs"
13.) "Dearly Beloved"
14.) "New Chapter"
15.) "Murder"
16.) "52 Seconds"
17.) "Scrutiny"

The album title and song titles are fairly generic Bad Religion, but still seems somewhat interesting anyway. I like the last 2 albums, so I'll probably be pretty excited come late June. I'm not big on the album cover, seeing as it reeks of the lame "Graffiti" design style that's been plastered everywhere lately.

THIS IS AWSOME! Have they released any of the songs yet?

FrancoDaHui
05-22-2007, 08:48 PM
THIS IS AWSOME! Have they released any of the songs yet?

yes, check out their myspace

i think honest goodbye and heroes and martyrs are there

Homer
05-22-2007, 08:51 PM
THIS IS AWSOME! Have they released any of the songs yet?

Good job at reading the thread!


Need 2 listen it more often 2 catch it up my mind...it's 2 short (or it's just demo?)...yeah, horus's good, but it sounded only twice...2 lil 4 such good chorus...

That's the full version, hence there not being any "demo" tagged onto the song.



And also, New Chapter was taken off of the track listing.

NMHFBD
05-30-2007, 02:11 AM
i want to ask if anyone knows who did backing vocals for 'Struck a nerve'?

Short_Attention_Span
05-30-2007, 04:36 PM
Johnette Napolitano, the vocalist from Concrete Blonde.
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Homer
05-30-2007, 10:25 PM
So... um... how 'bout that Bad Religion?
















Requiem For Dissent (http://www.mediafire.com/?8wnmx2urtth).

FrancoDaHui
05-31-2007, 08:17 AM
this really sounds old school and i'm getting more excited about the album

Ninty Man
05-31-2007, 01:26 PM
this really sounds old school and i'm getting more excited about the album

MMM... pass me the song

NMHFBD
06-01-2007, 12:28 AM
it's been a month since i started listening to Bad Religion,now i'm in love with their music. congratulate me!:)

FrancoDaHui
06-01-2007, 06:58 PM
it's been a month since i started listening to Bad Religion,now i'm in love with their music. congratulate me!:)

no


................

just kidding, you're doing the right thing by listening to bad religion and seems that new maps of hell will be a good start for n00bz :D

Ninty Man
06-01-2007, 11:09 PM
no


................

just kidding, you're doing the right thing by listening to bad religion and seems that new maps of hell will be a good start for n00bz :D

Am I a n00b? :eek:

NMHFBD
06-02-2007, 01:41 AM
you're doing the right thing by listening to bad religion and seems that new maps of hell will be a good start for n00bz :D

no,i already had my start.it was Suffer,No Control and Against the grain. i started listening to them with these albums and i still think these are the best they've made. now i listen to other albums(i've made playlist of songs i like) and i hope that this new album will be great as the others.

FrancoDaHui
06-02-2007, 08:28 AM
no,i already had my start.it was Suffer,No Control and Against the grain. i started listening to them with these albums and i still think these are the best they've made. now i listen to other albums(i've made playlist of songs i like) and i hope that this new album will be great as the others.

oh yeah, the classic trilogy, but i highly recommend the "underrated trilogy": the gray race, no substance and the new america

they're fucking great and shows the pop rock/alt rock side of bad religion

here ends my opinion :p

Short_Attention_Span
06-02-2007, 11:12 AM
oh yeah, the classic trilogy, but i highly recommend the "underrated trilogy": the gray race, no substance and the new america

they're fucking great and shows the pop rock/alt rock side of bad religion

here ends my opinion :p

I don't know... the Gray Race, yeah. It's pretty good. But the other two? I'd disagree. If you wanted to hear a more pop/rock Bad Religion, I'd recommend Stranger than Fiction before No Substance or the New America.
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NMHFBD
06-02-2007, 01:36 PM
these three are pretty good but not as impressing as 'classic trilogy' i mean they have less awesome songs! and what about Empire strikes first? anyone likes it?

FrancoDaHui
06-02-2007, 03:52 PM
I don't know... the Gray Race, yeah. It's pretty good. But the other two? I'd disagree. If you wanted to hear a more pop/rock Bad Religion, I'd recommend Stranger than Fiction before No Substance or the New America.

naaa, stranger than fiction is everything but pop rock, what about marked, incomplete or leave mine to me??? those aren't pop rock but it's still awesome


these three are pretty good but not as impressing as 'classic trilogy' i mean they have less awesome songs! and what about Empire strikes first? anyone likes it?

empire strikes first is not as impresive as the process of belief but TESF is pretty damn good too

and anyone should listen to the string quartet tribute

Ninty Man
06-04-2007, 07:45 PM
With the exception of no substance, Bad religion time in Atlantic was good... fuck sake... new america totally rocks.. but fucking fans

NMHFBD
06-05-2007, 02:47 AM
ok No Substanse isn't greatest album but it has some fuckin amazing songs! Shades of truth.Strange denial,The Same Person,In So Many Ways! don't tell me these songs suck

RODNEYMULLEN
06-07-2007, 01:35 PM
judging by the songs they had on myspace, i don't think this is going to be thier best album, i think thier best album was the empire strikes first, that album kicks ass.

Ninty Man
06-07-2007, 04:56 PM
judging by the songs they had on myspace, i don't think this is going to be thier best album, i think thier best album was the empire strikes first, that album kicks ass.

The best album of bad??? MMM...maybe it's between against the grain, stranger than fiction, new america (hell yeah), and process of belief... but hell no empire strikes first (even it rocks)


ok No Substanse isn't greatest album but it has some fuckin amazing songs! Shades of truth.Strange denial,The Same Person,In So Many Ways! don't tell me these songs suck

It has one fucking good kick ass song: Hear it

FrancoDaHui
06-07-2007, 08:23 PM
The best album of bad??? MMM...maybe it's between against the grain, stranger than fiction, new america (hell yeah), and process of belief... but hell no empire strikes first (even it rocks)



It has one fucking good kick ass song: Hear it

shut the fuck up

and i agree, strange denial, shades of truth and in so many ways are amazing

by the way
The New America > all other albums

Ninty Man
06-08-2007, 10:27 AM
shut the fuck up

and i agree, strange denial, shades of truth and in so many ways are amazing

by the way
The New America > all other albums

No, the order is like this:

Stranger than fiction> New America> Anything

And shut the fuck up, you pipope, No substance has raise your voice :eek:

RODNEYMULLEN
06-11-2007, 07:02 PM
Ok, New maps of hell came out yesterday. I know somebody has the album. It isn't on ares yet so can someone upload all the tracks to savefile or something, and i know that you guys are going to tell me to buy it but i don't have any money. So please please please someone upload the tracks to savefile because i am dying to hear them. And if you do make shure that they are good quality and not like 128 kbps or something. Thanks.

0r4ng3
06-11-2007, 07:13 PM
I think you have your dates mixed up. It comes out July 10.

RODNEYMULLEN
06-11-2007, 07:15 PM
I think you have your dates mixed up. It comes out July 10.

It's july 11th, july 10th was yesterday, so no i don't think i do.

0r4ng3
06-11-2007, 07:18 PM
Are you okay? Today is June 11.

RODNEYMULLEN
06-11-2007, 07:20 PM
Are you okay? Today is June 11.

oh my god, i'm a fuckin idiot, for some reason i thought it was july, my bad.

Homer
06-11-2007, 07:21 PM
Holy shit! Time travel!

But yeah, buy the fucking album, rather than whining and complaining about not having 15 bucks.

Edit:

30 second samples (http://www.amazon.com/New-Maps-Hell-Bad-Religion/dp/B000RGSOBO/ref=sr_1_5/103-0959999-3946248?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1181290799&sr=8-5).

Short_Attention_Span
06-11-2007, 08:30 PM
Holy shit!!!

I like how it sounds so far... but, did that "Before You Die" song remind anyone else of AFI's "Miss Murder" or is it just me?
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RonWelty
06-12-2007, 04:18 PM
i don´t like ..it may be just me..but the Atlantic Years are still the best ...

Ninty Man
06-12-2007, 06:08 PM
i don´t like ..it may be just me..but the Atlantic Years are still the best ...

Well... not exactly... I mean... they released No substance... fuckers XD. But... I must agree I love stranger than fiction, New America, and from Epitaph... almost everything

RonWelty
06-13-2007, 02:00 AM
no substance i don´t like ..but i love new america , i love the album after stranger than fiction...but i think that the best songs are in Atlantic Years...maybe the better albuns are from the Epitaph , but the best songs are from Atlantic Years... IMO ... CEASE per example, It´s a long way to the promise land,there will be a way,a walk, street of america, pity the dead, come join us...and many more :D

Ninty Man
06-13-2007, 02:21 PM
no substance i don´t like ..but i love new america , i love the album after stranger than fiction...but i think that the best songs are in Atlantic Years...maybe the better albuns are from the Epitaph , but the best songs are from Atlantic Years... IMO ... CEASE per example, It´s a long way to the promise land,there will be a way,a walk, street of america, pity the dead, come join us...and many more :D

Don't forget You've got A chance :D

FrancoDaHui
06-13-2007, 06:16 PM
Don't forget You've got A chance :D

and dont sell me short


and i really need that the album gets leaked. Im going to buy it anyway but i want to listen to it NOW

damn, those people at amazon are lucky

Homer
06-13-2007, 08:13 PM
Won't be leaked, because they didn't send out any promo CDs, and they never will.

FrancoDaHui
06-14-2007, 08:33 AM
Won't be leaked, because they didn't send out any promo CDs, and they never will.

i know that, but if amazon have samples of every song then they must have a copy, right???

Ninty Man
06-15-2007, 09:57 AM
i know that, but if amazon have samples of every song then they must have a copy, right???

Not necesarilly... I mean... Bad religion could send them samples (the fucking 30 seconds we heard)

nameless
06-17-2007, 02:44 PM
should be interesting when it comes out, hopefully wont be anything too out of the ordinary!

Short_Attention_Span
06-17-2007, 02:59 PM
Won't be leaked, because they didn't send out any promo CDs, and they never will.

Don't be so sure...


and dont sell me short

Or News From the Front... which, I can't seem to find. Does anyone have a copy they could upload?
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Evil-Dead
06-18-2007, 06:12 AM
Won't be leaked, because they didn't send out any promo CDs, and they never will.

they did ;)

but I'm not going to leak it :) sorry :p

sounds great though, it's well worth the wait but don't expect any real suprises, sounds like Bad Religion, you know what to expect. Exept 'Murder' maybe. Lots of fast songs, classic BR stuff.

FrancoDaHui
06-18-2007, 10:09 PM
for those who dont want to wait (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XD4AH3TC)


fuck it, i downloaded it and definitely going to buy it

it's so awesome

Short_Attention_Span
06-18-2007, 10:48 PM
^ Um... your link isn't working.
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RODNEYMULLEN
06-18-2007, 11:03 PM
http://www.epitaph.com/videos/player/986
a webisode about thier new album
or download it here
http://www.savefile.com/files/821845

Living in Chaos
06-19-2007, 12:12 AM
for those who dont want to wait (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XD4AH3TC)


fuck it, i downloaded it and definitely going to buy it

it's so awesome


^ Um... your link isn't working.

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Venom Symbiote
06-19-2007, 02:47 AM
Graffin is one bald sexy motherfucker.

Grabbal
06-19-2007, 04:57 AM
................

Mike_911
06-19-2007, 07:04 AM
the album has leaked and it is on oink. it's only 192 kbps.. i've listened to half it and i'm really enjoying it. i think it's better than the last album so far.

RODNEYMULLEN
06-19-2007, 01:35 PM
the album has leaked and it is on oink. it's only 192 kbps.. i've listened to half it and i'm really enjoying it. i think it's better than the last album so far.

wait what's oink, how did you get the album, i want it. Where did you get it. And if you have them will you upload them because i have no clue what oink is.

Homer
06-19-2007, 02:18 PM
for those who dont want to wait (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AHTC)

Don't post that here. So many people are going to download it and not buy the album.

RODNEYMULLEN: Just wait and buy it, you cheap bastard.

RODNEYMULLEN
06-19-2007, 02:22 PM
Don't post that here. So many people are going to download it and not buy the album.

RODNEYMULLEN: Just wait and buy it, you cheap bastard.

I don't have money and do you think they are going to care what the fuck does 20 bucks mean to them.
This proves my point, even if it is south park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhSKnGuz6jw

0r4ng3
06-19-2007, 02:36 PM
Don't post that here. So many people are going to download it and not buy the album.
I'll download it and buy it when it comes out, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, so I think it's safe to post it.

Grabbal
06-19-2007, 02:57 PM
................

Homer
06-19-2007, 02:59 PM
I don't have money and do you think they are going to care what the fuck does 20 bucks mean to them.
This proves my point, even if it is south park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhSKnGuz6jw

You fail. Hard. Bad Religion isn't Metallica. You can make 20 bucks easily in three weeks. I also know exactly how the band feels about "20 bucks".


I'll download it and buy it when it comes out, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, so I think it's safe to post it.

I know this, but the people who won't buy it far outweigh the amount of people who will. Here, I'll show you someone already who won't buy it. Look up.

Homer
06-19-2007, 05:54 PM
Anyways, to those who refuse to download a leak, I've got this (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PTN851EA).

It's a radio rip of Scrutiny.

Jakebert
06-19-2007, 07:20 PM
It's already on Soulseek as well. I have no clue if I'll download it or not.

RODNEYMULLEN
06-20-2007, 11:26 AM
It's already on Soulseek as well. I have no clue if I'll download it or not.

Well i know i'm going to buy the album, i still want to download it though. I guess underclass hero is going to have to wait.

RODNEYMULLEN
06-20-2007, 11:37 AM
here are some new bad religion bootlegs if anyone wants them

videos from the BR show in Chile

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Bad+Religion+Chile+2007+imane ta&search=Search


Quilmes Festival 04.12.2007 Buenos Aires, AR (Radio Stream FM ROCK AND POP)

This is the full Performance in Mp3

Playlist

01) American Jesus
02) I Want To Conquer The World
03) Let Them Eat War
04) Supersonic
05) Prove It
06) Can´t Stop It
07) Sanity
08) No Control
09) Epiphany
10) 21st Century Digital Boy
11) Do What You Want
12) The Defense
13) Anesthesia
14) Infected
15) Los Angeles Is Burning
16) Suffer
17) Recipe For Hate
18) Generator
19) Heroes And Martyrs
20) Fuck Armageddon... This Is Hell
21) Along The Way
22) Sorrow
+
23) Interview


Mirror 1 : http://www.bigupload.com/d=6E16F490

Mirror 2 : http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OLQ7CL6I

Mirror 3 : http://www.filefactory.com/file/8155a0

update more videos

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=credicardhall+bad+religion&search=Search

http://showlivre.uol.com.br/videos.php?video_id=25973&conteudo_id=37&eventoId=2648&video_aberto=S

I downloaded the first mirror and i got a bunch of rap mp3s. Did this happen to anyone else.

H1T_That
06-20-2007, 03:52 PM
RODNEYMULLEN really needs to get a job and buy CD's.

Ninty Man
06-21-2007, 01:24 PM
RODNEYMULLEN really needs to get a job and buy CD's.

rodney will be raped in his ass... and no money for that bastard

H1T_That
06-21-2007, 02:51 PM
rodney will be raped in his ass... and no money for that bastard

If you insist on making jokes all the time, please try and make them at least a little bit funny.

Ninty Man
06-21-2007, 08:08 PM
If you insist on making jokes all the time, please try and make them at least a little bit funny.

Bleh, I don't give a shit what you think.

And I wanna this album now (not jokes about the leak version)

FrancoDaHui
06-22-2007, 09:46 AM
If you insist on making jokes all the time, please try and make them at least a little bit funny.

ninty, you got owned

Bleh, I don't give a shit what you think.

And I wanna this album now (not jokes about the leak version)

it's WANT, not wanna, lametard


and new maps of hell totally rules, i downloaded the leak and it's amazing, a lot better than the empire strikes first and process of belief. I cant wait to buy it

RODNEYMULLEN
06-22-2007, 12:09 PM
ninty, you got owned


it's WANT, not wanna, lametard


and new maps of hell totally rules, i downloaded the leak and it's amazing, a lot better than the empire strikes first and process of belief. I cant wait to buy it

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! WHERE ARE YOU DOWNLOADING THE LEAK, I WANT IT, PLEASE TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE GETTING IT OR UPLOAD IT PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEASE!

RODNEYMULLEN
06-22-2007, 12:30 PM
Allright, nevermind. They put them on ares. FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH. This album is so much better than empire strikes first and empire strikes first kicked ass. Yup, downloaded it, and burned it. I don't know if i should buy it. The only thing i get that i don't allready have is the album art.

0r4ng3
06-22-2007, 02:00 PM
Yeah, I like how this one doesn't drag toward the end like Empire did. Also, "Before You Die" is growing on me very quickly. I don't know what it is about that song, but I'm really liking it.

FrancoDaHui
06-22-2007, 03:04 PM
Yeah, I like how this one doesn't drag toward the end like Empire did. Also, "Before You Die" is growing on me very quickly. I don't know what it is about that song, but I'm really liking it.

yeah, before you die is GREAT, but i think that dearly beloved and grains of wrath are better. Hell, the whole album fucking kicks ass

bouncingcoles
06-22-2007, 05:12 PM
i actually downloaded the whole album a few days go. i like 11 out of the 16 songs. its definetly a good album, but not the best. i feel that many of the songs arent as memorable and the songs on their other albums.

bouncingcoles
06-22-2007, 05:13 PM
Allright, nevermind. They put them on ares. FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH. This album is so much better than empire strikes first and empire strikes first kicked ass. Yup, downloaded it, and burned it. I don't know if i should buy it. The only thing i get that i don't allready have is the album art.


you should buy it and support the band.

Homer
06-22-2007, 09:39 PM
Ah, god damnit you guys! Now you've renewed my desire for this album. I just had it under control what with the Bad Brains album coming out this Monday. Oh well... atleast I know it's good.

and


Allright, nevermind. They put them on ares. FUCK YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH. This album is so much better than empire strikes first and empire strikes first kicked ass. Yup, downloaded it, and burned it. I don't know if i should buy it. The only thing i get that i don't allready have is the album art.

Buy the fucking album you cheap piece of shit.

Jakebert
06-23-2007, 09:41 AM
I downloaded the first 6 songs and am pretty impressed so far. Seems to have a much darker feeling than the last 2 albums, and it works well. I think I'll wait the few weeks to buy it instead of burning it, though.

Ninty Man
06-23-2007, 11:49 AM
Ah, god damnit you guys! Now you've renewed my desire for this album. I just had it under control what with the Bad Brains album coming out this Monday. Oh well... atleast I know it's good.

and



Buy the fucking album you cheap piece of shit.

LOL

well... I hope It'll arrive in Mexico soon...

Autonomist
06-24-2007, 12:24 AM
They've been frequently playing tracks off of it on an alternative radio program over here. It sounds great to me. If I hadn't recently rediscovered how good it feels to own the actual album, no doubt I would download it.

DeAtHsTaR
06-24-2007, 10:14 AM
Requiem for Dissent is on this 2007 Warped Tour comp I got for 7 bucks, and that song fucking rocks.

Venom Symbiote
06-25-2007, 06:08 PM
Holy fucking fuck! I love that Graffin solo stuff. It's actually good, who'da thunk it?

Very cool, and obviously pretty different to what he usually does.

RODNEYMULLEN
06-26-2007, 05:02 PM
Someone give me a list of all the songs because amazon only put 12

0r4ng3
06-26-2007, 08:19 PM
Look it up on wikipedia. It should be there.

NMHFBD
07-03-2007, 11:20 AM
today i heard Honest goodbye on the radio...an hour ago.This song is the first sinlge ,right? i'm so glad that they play Bad Religion on the radio,so glad.

Blackball_
07-03-2007, 02:25 PM
this album is good, but doesnt seem very memorable. no real poor tracks but no instant classics either. all in all, decent. but not great.

glad they havent sunk back to the no substance/new america bullshit.

Homer
07-03-2007, 05:57 PM
www.myspace.com/badreligion

That is all.

Venom Symbiote
07-03-2007, 06:19 PM
Holy...holy fuck!

Better listen to this now, people, bands usually take it down reasonably quickly, if they decide to put the entire album on their MySpace page.

But yeah...wow. Better than decent.

Ninty Man
07-08-2007, 08:04 PM
Holy...holy fuck!

Better listen to this now, people, bands usually take it down reasonably quickly, if they decide to put the entire album on their MySpace page.

But yeah...wow. Better than decent.

It rocks XD

Jakebert
07-10-2007, 01:15 PM
I just bought it today. I'm very impressed with it, and I think I might go as far as saying it's their best album since Stranger Than Fiction.

Homer
07-10-2007, 01:24 PM
I hate you, so much. I don't have a way of getting it today... fuck.

Autonomist
07-10-2007, 03:59 PM
Bought it last Saturday.

It's good.

Ninty Man
07-10-2007, 05:11 PM
I'm gonna buy it tomorrow.

Also it's worth mentioning this is the first Bad Religion cd I'm buying. Any tip of another BR album I should take home with me?

General opinion:

Against the grain, recipe for hate, stranger than fiction TRU PUNX NO CONTROL... and maybe generator

PERSONALLY:

New america, gray race, stranger than fiction, against the grain, generator, recipe and the empire strikes first

bouncingcoles
07-10-2007, 06:21 PM
I'm gonna buy it tomorrow.

Also it's worth mentioning this is the first Bad Religion cd I'm buying. Any tip of another BR album I should take home with me?

the only albums by them i wouldnt buy are new america, and no substance. o ya and there live album that came out in 1997 and it sucks ass.

Homer
07-10-2007, 08:21 PM
Finally got my CD, but the ONLY way to first listen to an album is with a CD player and good headphones. I gotta do that sometime.

Venom Symbiote
07-11-2007, 05:08 AM
No! No! "Into The Unknown". It's a must.

FrancoDaHui
07-11-2007, 08:12 AM
i totally recommend the new america and no substance. They are extremely underrated, it's just that they dont get the attention they deserve because they're not TRU PUNX

in fact, if you like songs like broken, LA is burning, epiphany or struck a nerve, im sure you'll like those 2 albums

Homer
07-11-2007, 01:32 PM
New America and No Substance are the worst CDs. Ironically though, New America was the first album I bought from Bad Religion.

But yeah, I guess The Gray Race is a good starter album, but there are better ones. Against The Grain, Stranger Than Fiction, Process Of Belief, and New Maps would all be better starters in my opinion.

Ninty Man
07-11-2007, 02:07 PM
I love "Whisper in time".

Then buy New America

Homer... New america is great... I think i have to agree with franco... tru punx fans are the ones who dislike this albums... BUt... I think No substance and into the unknown are the worst albums

adombomb222
07-11-2007, 08:13 PM
I bought it at Warp Tour for $10 and I got a T-shirt. Haven't listent to it much... but I think I'll put it on right now!

Venom Symbiote
07-11-2007, 08:26 PM
I still maintain "Into The Unknown" is the most punk album they've ever written. Hell, if that badass motherfucker of a disc was released 5 years earlier than it was, they'd be hailed as geniuses.

Homer
07-11-2007, 10:06 PM
Into The Unknown is a great album. New America will always be regarded as the worst album. Among fans especially. Doesn't mean it's bad, it's just the worst.

By the way, the ONLY way to listen to a new Bad Religion CD is to put it into a CD player with headphones at night, with the lights turned off and everything. This is what I did, and it's my second favorite album, right behind Against The Grain.

Ninty Man
07-11-2007, 10:34 PM
Into The Unknown is a great album. New America will always be regarded as the worst album. Among fans especially. Doesn't mean it's bad, it's just the worst.

By the way, the ONLY way to listen to a new Bad Religion CD is to put it into a CD player with headphones at night, with the lights turned off and everything. This is what I did, and it's my second favorite album, right behind Against The Grain.


Bleh, Into the unknown is bad wherever you look at it... and New America is... well... misunderstood

Venom Symbiote
07-12-2007, 02:32 AM
Bleh, Into the unknown is bad wherever you look at it...

I will slap you. In the tits.

Jakebert
07-12-2007, 11:48 AM
By the way, the ONLY way to listen to a new Bad Religion CD is to put it into a CD player with headphones at night, with the lights turned off and everything. This is what I did, and it's my second favorite album, right behind Against The Grain.

Um...we're talking about Bad Religion, not Godspeed You! Black Emperor. As much as I love Bad Religion, there's not enough depth in their music to require that kind of attention.

Ninty Man
07-12-2007, 12:34 PM
I will slap you. In the tits.

Leave alone my man boobs :mad:

RonWelty
07-13-2007, 12:52 PM
i have to correct myself in a previous Post : THIS ALBUM ROCKS!!!

SyLeS
07-14-2007, 01:59 PM
I heard Honest Goodbye on urge its a lot different than there other stuff, im still unsure if ill buy the album...

0r4ng3
07-14-2007, 02:05 PM
You really shouldn't judge the album based on "Honest Goodbye". The rest of the album is a lot different, and it's some of their best stuff in years.

Ninty Man
07-14-2007, 02:11 PM
I heard Honest Goodbye on urge its a lot different than there other stuff, im still unsure if ill buy the album...

Why don't hear in their My Space some songs of the album?

Homer
07-14-2007, 03:25 PM
Honest Goodbye is a lot different from the album, it's just a radio song. That's all. Although, it has grown on me ever since I heard it, but I guess that's because what the song's based on makes it better.

RonWelty
07-15-2007, 09:13 AM
Bought "New maps of hell" today.

That is all.
me too....loved it

SyLeS
07-15-2007, 03:26 PM
Ok i changed my mind

New Dark Ages = Teh PWNAGe!!!!111

Im buying it!

NMHFBD
07-16-2007, 12:10 PM
i just don't understand why everyone dislikes Honest goodbye.I loved this song since i first listened to it.the worst song from this new album is prodigal son,it's so boring and unimpressive/ so what's everyone fav song from this album? i can't choose between New dark ages and Before you die.those 2 are my favourites/

Homer
07-16-2007, 01:06 PM
There's only one answer: Grains Of Wrath.

Ninty Man
07-16-2007, 02:48 PM
All the album rocks.

What do you think about field of mars?

Venom Symbiote
07-16-2007, 03:42 PM
i just don't understand why everyone dislikes Honest goodbye.I loved this song since i first listened to it.

Because aside from the "whooaa-oaaa-oaaa", it could be one of Avril's "serious" songs. I don't hate the track, but you can bet your vagina that's why the song gets the least respect of the new material. It's not bad, it's just obvious pandering to the radio audience - there's nothing wrong with that, but that's how it is. No different to "Los Angeles Is Burning". Still a decent song, not great, but decent enough. Just totally Avril.



the worst song from this new album is prodigal son,it's so boring and unimpressive

Wrong.


As for the "Fields Of Mars" thing, totally the best 'Greg song' they've written since motherfuckin' "Cease". 'Tis brilliant.

And yup, "Grains Of Wrath" is another highlight.

And am I the only one who didn't really appreciate the "52 Seconds" and "Murder" additions? Just seemed really "hey, we're still hardcore!" (reminds me of the "China still cool!" Simpsons thing), "look, kids, 1982!". They're decent enough compositions, just...blah, dudes, you've grown past that stuff.

But the other 90% of the album kicks absolute goat testes, so it's all good. Rad disc.

Oh, and the production on this album is fucking unbelievable.

jacknife737
07-16-2007, 05:08 PM
Ok, now that I’ve finally put down New Wave by Against Me! long enough to actually give it a couple good listens , I’ve decided that I too love this album. Honestly, this defiantly ranks up with some of the bands best work, I adore the tracks “Heroes and Martyrs”, “Dearly Beloved”, “Fields of Mars” and yes, even “Honest Goodbye". Like venom so eloquently put it the production for New Maps of Hell is indeed “fucking unbelievable”. My only real problem with the album is that I don’t think that there are as many “standout” tracks as there were on The Empire Strikes First, but either way its still a great album.

Venom Symbiote
07-16-2007, 08:12 PM
My only real problem with the album is that I don’t think that there are as many “standout” tracks as there were on The Empire Strikes First, but either way its still a great album.

What are you, Jewish or something? Of course there are. Process was better than Empire, and New Maps Of Hell is a hell of a lot more classic obvious BR than either of them. It's a more cohesive traditional standout Bad Religion sound.

jacknife737
07-16-2007, 08:52 PM
Process was better than Empire, and New Maps Of Hell is a hell of a lot more classic obvious BR than either of them.
Well for a start i would disagree with you there.



It's a more cohesive traditional standout Bad Religion sound.
I’m not debating wether or not New Maps of Hell has a more “classic” or "traditional" Bad Religion sound or whatever, but rather that on an individual basis I found the songs on Empire to be more memorable.

Don’t get me wrong, New Maps of Hell is a great album and the tracks seem to flow well together, but other then a couple exceptions I feel that the majority of its tracks just don’t’ standout to me on an individual level

Ninty Man
07-16-2007, 10:15 PM
Well for a start i would disagree with you there.


I’m not debating wether or not New Maps of Hell has a more “classic” or "traditional" Bad Religion sound or whatever, but rather that on an individual basis I found the songs on Empire to be more memorable.

Don’t get me wrong, New Maps of Hell is a great album and the tracks seem to flow well together, but other then a couple exceptions I feel that the majority of its tracks just don’t’ standout to me on an individual level

MMM... wrong:

Dark ages, Heroes and martyrs, Grains of wrath, dearly beloved, before you die and fields of mars are fuckiing awesome, and they own your ass

FrancoDaHui
07-17-2007, 07:58 AM
yeah, i think that new dark ages and dearly beloved are the best songs they've done in a long time.

and what do you think about new chapter?? do you think that we'll hear it soon?

Short_Attention_Span
07-17-2007, 11:39 AM
As for the "Fields Of Mars" thing, totally the best 'Greg song' they've written since motherfuckin' "Cease". 'Tis brilliant.

Wrong. It's a good song, but it's not that good.



But the other 90% of the album kicks absolute goat testes, so it's all good. Rad disc.

Oh, and the production on this album is fucking unbelievable.

I do have to agree with you there, though.


I?m not debating whether or not New Maps of Hell has a more ?classic? or "traditional" Bad Religion sound or whatever, but rather that on an individual basis I found the songs on Empire to be more memorable.

Don?t get me wrong, New Maps of Hell is a great album and the tracks seem to flow well together, but other then a couple exceptions I feel that the majority of its tracks just don?t? standout to me on an individual level

I agree here, too. "Beyond Electric Dreams" anyone? That wouldn't really fit in on another album. I liked that about Empire, but it was also one of it's lowpoints. I like the consistency of New Maps of Hell.



and what do you think about new chapter?? do you think that we'll hear it soon?

I doubt it. If they decide to do another album, then it might be on there.
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Ninty Man
07-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Wrong. It's a good song, but it's not that good.




I do have to agree with you there, though.



I agree here, too. "Beyond Electric Dreams" anyone? That wouldn't really fit in on another album. I liked that about Empire, but it was also one of it's lowpoints. I like the consistency of New Maps of Hell.



I doubt it. If they decide to do another album, then it might be on there.



Nah, New chapter will be lost in time... like...MMM... well the demos of the next album from Van Halen... next to Van Halen III... it don's exists

Venom Symbiote
07-17-2007, 04:54 PM
What's "New Chapter", a b-side or something? Or just a demo. Gotta admit I didn't really follow this album up until its release, I was pretty disappointed/annoyed with Empire a few years ago so I kind of turned apathetic towards them.

Empire was...okay. It wasn't horrible, hope I don't sound like I think that about it. Just, following The Process Of Belief, and with its trendy-at-the-time (everyone was doing it, motherfuckin' everyone) "Bush is bad" throat-ramming, it was just a let-down. :eek: Some decent music on it, but hey, it all seems to kind of run together. The first...four tracks or whatever, sound exactly alike. I know how retarded that seems to say, since the first three on Process suffered from basically the same thing, but I don't know. Process mixed it up big time after the "hey, we can still kick butt" intro.

And New Maps is so much more non-specific lyrically, which makes it a much better listen. If I wanted to hear the Empire politics, I'd hang out at fucking Greenpeace meetings. Or listen to Rage Against the Machine, for fuck's sake.

Short_Attention_Span
07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
"New Chapter" is a song that got nixed from the final album product. It kinda just died during production.

You're right though; the first four tracks on Empire are strikingly similar, although that might be due to the dark overtones in the production of the album. And after awhile, it drags on.
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NMHFBD
07-18-2007, 11:31 AM
Feilds of mars sucks musically.it's as boring as PS.i guess you see some deep meaning or hidden message in that song and because of it you like it so much.i don't like it anyway.yes.those are two songs from this album i don't like/

Homer
07-18-2007, 02:21 PM
What's "New Chapter", a b-side or something? Or just a demo. Gotta admit I didn't really follow this album up until its release, I was pretty disappointed/annoyed with Empire a few years ago so I kind of turned apathetic towards them.

It's a song that apparently "didn't fit in with the rest of the album", so it was taken off, and we'll probably never hear it.


Empire was...okay. It wasn't horrible, hope I don't sound like I think that about it. Just, following The Process Of Belief, and with its trendy-at-the-time (everyone was doing it, motherfuckin' everyone) "Bush is bad" throat-ramming, it was just a let-down. :eek:

What the fuck? That's the dumbest post I've seen. No one was bashing Bush back in 2002, or even 2004 for that matter. It didn't become a 'trend' until about a year or two after Bush was re-elected, when it didn't matter anymore.


Some decent music on it, but hey, it all seems to kind of run together. The first...four tracks or whatever, sound exactly alike. I know how retarded that seems to say, since the first three on Process suffered from basically the same thing, but I don't know. Process mixed it up big time after the "hey, we can still kick butt" intro.

That's nothing new, and it's a good thing. They usually take three, fast and short songs and put them at the beginning to create that 'bang' for when you first put the album in.


And New Maps is so much more non-specific lyrically, which makes it a much better listen. If I wanted to hear the Empire politics, I'd hang out at fucking Greenpeace meetings. Or listen to Rage Against the Machine, for fuck's sake.

That was stupid. Bad Religion's always been a political band. ALWAYS. Since they're very first EP.

bouncingcoles
07-22-2007, 11:16 AM
new maps of hell is a good album. not my favorite. but songs like dearly beloved, before you die and pilgrim are on my list of favorite bad religion songs ever.

Llamas
08-04-2007, 07:35 PM
I just got the new album. I really like it, despite what I expected. I haven't really liked their last few albums... The New America was the start of an era of BR albums I just couldn't get into. But this is good. I really like "New Dark Ages", especially. I'm on my third listen-through right now, and it's really growing on me. :)

Jakebert
08-04-2007, 10:16 PM
What the fuck? That's the dumbest post I've seen. No one was bashing Bush back in 2002, or even 2004 for that matter. It didn't become a 'trend' until about a year or two after Bush was re-elected, when it didn't matter anymore.

I agree with the rest of your post, but this is wrong. Bush-hating was incredibly cool in music in 2004. NOFX, Green Day, Rock Against Bush!, Pearl Jam, Springstein, and basically every major rock band had a huge anti-Bush sentiment that year. It was the big cool thing to do that year.

Homer
08-04-2007, 10:39 PM
Well, if I remember correctly, it wasn't as huge as it was until recently, after he was re-elected, when everyone started bashing Bush.

Jakebert
08-05-2007, 01:11 PM
Well, you remember wrong. During the 2004 election, being anti-Bush was the cool thing to do.

Homer
09-09-2007, 12:36 AM
Bad Religion's playing on Late Night with Conan O'Brien on the 10th.

Awesome.