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ad8
03-07-2008, 01:02 PM
Since I am visiting this board for quite a while now I learned many things about the American society, because there are lots of Americans around here. I wonder what you Americans think / know about Germany (society / politics / other remarkable things). (Non-Americans may post too, ofc;) )
To start with this, I just recognized that Germany apparently looks better to tourists than to me(I just hate it). Umm... how come?:D
Discuss.

ninthlayer
03-07-2008, 01:52 PM
When are you guys going to tear down the Berlin Wall?

IamSam
03-07-2008, 02:17 PM
How many German 13 year olds does it take to drain a keg?

Llamas
03-07-2008, 04:36 PM
Heil Hitler, lol WWII, tall redheads, Autobahn... yep, that's about all there is to Germany.

Wolfbutter
03-07-2008, 05:27 PM
I basically see Germany as a small, average country with nothing very interesting, but still exciting becuase of the change of pace from being from another country. Like llamas said, when most people think of Germany, they think Hitler, and um....Hitler...yeah. Also, people think about weiner-schniztels and "ze germans".

That's pretty much it. Guess it's hard to make a country exciting when it's the size of Montana.

IamSam
03-07-2008, 05:43 PM
I basically see Germany as a small, average country with nothing very interesting, but still exciting becuase of the change of pace from being from another country. Like llamas said, when most people think of Germany, they think Hitler, and um....Hitler...yeah. Also, people think about weiner-schniztels and "ze germans".

That's pretty much it. Guess it's hard to make a country exciting when it's the size of Montana.

Don't forget Schnitzandgiggle.

Llamas
03-07-2008, 05:57 PM
I basically see Germany as a small, average country with nothing very interesting, but still exciting becuase of the change of pace from being from another country. Like llamas said, when most people think of Germany, they think Hitler, and um....Hitler...yeah. Also, people think about weiner-schniztels and "ze germans".

That's pretty much it. Guess it's hard to make a country exciting when it's the size of Montana.

Wow, this is seriously stupid.

First of all, my post was sarcastic.

Second of all, when has size ever been a factor in how interesting a country is? So, you basically think that every country is uninteresting unless it's big like the US, Canada, Australia, or Russia? I think some of the smaller countries are far more interesting. Hell, England is smaller than Germany- it's the size of North Carolina. You must think England is more boring than Germany, then.

DirtyYeso
03-07-2008, 06:12 PM
Since I am visiting this board for quite a while now I learned many things about the American society, because there are lots of Americans around here. I wonder what you Americans think / know about Germany (society / politics / other remarkable things). (Non-Americans may post too, ofc;) )
To start with this, I just recognized that Germany apparently looks better to tourists than to me(I just hate it). Umm... how come?:D
Discuss.

I've been in Germany two months, I liked it. When I was there I also noticed that they would criticize Germany a lot, maybe too much in my opinion. It is true, people from the outside see Germany as a well-working country but the Germans constantly find flaws in their system. But I think that has more to do with their history.
With Hitler they became a nationalist country (Deutschland Deutschland über alles..) by treating other countries/groups like they were less than the German race. Now Germans look back and despise completely this idea. It's like they've been marked and they don't want to repeat that history of Germany believing to be above everything. That's what I feel about Germans not liking their country as much as outsiders. :D

Wolfbutter
03-07-2008, 06:18 PM
You may have been sarcastic, but I wasn't. Most people I'm assuming think of Hitler straight away when they think of Germany.

And yes, size a big factor for interesting mass. The bigger the country is, the more types of people, cultures and festivals will all be there. I'm not saying, automatically, that a bigger country will be more interesting. I was just saying it is easier for it to be so. Simply because more things can happen in a bigger area of space.

Davo
03-08-2008, 06:54 AM
Germany is deshonra of Europe and Earth.

Paint_It_Black
03-08-2008, 07:58 AM
Wolfbutter, wtf?

The size of a country has almost no bearing on how interesting it is, unless you are speaking geographically.

You sound like someone who hasn't been to many places outside the US.

I could just as easily argue that a big country can be more boring than a small one. Look at the US for a moment. If you live in the midwest you can drive all day and not feel like you're actually getting anywhere. All the small towns look the same. All the big towns look the same. Oh, look, another McDonalds/Burger King/Wendy's/Best Buy/Wal-Mart/K-Mart/what-the-fuck-ever. Oh look, more flat plains with dead-straight fucking boring highways running through them.

Don't get me wrong. America has some great variety. But it's hard to just jump in your car and see it.

Now think about Britain. You can drive a few hours and see completely different stuff. Forests, the ocean, plains, mountains etc. You can hear wildly varied accents and different languages. Every little village you come to has more history than any US city (from a certain perspective). Want to see a castle? No problem. Maybe a Roman fort? Sure. Want to see one of the oldest man-made structures in the world? Stonehenge isn't far away. You can take a weekend roadtrip and experience the kind of variety that would require weeks and multiple flights in the US.

But it's retarded to even try and argue which countries are going to be the most interesting. It depends on the individual. Your tastes and interests, your cultural background, your personality. You're going to sound like an arrogant douche if you try to make generalizations.

Oh, and you're going to sound like an ignorant douche if you call Germany small.

batfish
03-08-2008, 08:15 AM
Lederhosen, ze Germans, German character (efficiency, ruthlessness, no sense of humour), Hitler connotations come to mind, but of course when I think about it more deeply, of course I don't just think about them...

When I talk about history with my German exchange partner and a couple of German friends, it's always very apparent that they're ashamed of their contry's history, and it always strikes me as sad that the younger generation have this guilt on them (though we joke about it too). And Germany always seems to fall over itself trying to prove it's not rasict or nationalist.


And yes, size a big factor for interesting mass. The bigger the country is, the more types of people, cultures and festivals will all be there. I'm not saying, automatically, that a bigger country will be more interesting. I was just saying it is easier for it to be so. Simply because more things can happen in a bigger area of space.

I think Germany has a fairly rich culture. Its history is fascinating, despite the fact it only became a united country in 1871. It has also produced some amazing historical figures: Marx, Freud, Nietzsche, Kafka. It has an international political influence. Festivals like Oktoberfest, the spring Carnival (I've forgotten its name)

Maybe you don't think it's interesting because you're never bothered looking into it, Wolfbutter?

ad8
03-08-2008, 08:43 AM
Lederhosen, ze Germans, German character (efficiency, ruthlessness, no sense of humour), Hitler connotations come to mind, but of course when I think about it more deeply, of course I don't just think about them...

When I talk about history with my German exchange partner and a couple of German friends, it's always very apparent that they're ashamed of their contry's history, and it always strikes me as sad that the younger generation have this guilt on them (though we joke about it too). And Germany always seems to fall over itself trying to prove it's not rasict or nationalist.


This is part of why I hate the german society. At school, I just learned too much about WWII / Hitler and that stuff. It's always the same and we also get that stuff taught like we young people caused WWII. About 95% of us know how horrible the Nazis have treated other countries and at a certain point it just gets annoying for us. I mean it's easy to understand that a genocide based on hating people cause of their ethnicity or religion is terrible, isn't it? The older people apparently seem to think that young germans will become Nazi if they don't get taught every day how bad that was. Instead of that, people should concentrate on the growing Neo-Nazi movement which was created by unemployment and hopelessness. But nobody thinks of that.

Paint_It_Black
03-08-2008, 12:16 PM
It has an international political influence.

Yeah, Nazis.


The older people apparently seem to think that young germans will become Nazi if they don't get taught every day how bad that was. Instead of that, people should concentrate on the growing Neo-Nazi movement which was created by unemployment and hopelessness. But nobody thinks of that.

So you're basically telling us that they are crazy to worry that their children may become Nazis, and they should instead worry that their children will become "new" Nazis.

Um.

Does Germany make anyone else think of bad hardcore pornography, or did I have a truly unique experience in my youth?

ad8
03-08-2008, 12:38 PM
Yeah, Nazis.



So you're basically telling us that they are crazy to worry that their children may become Nazis, and they should instead worry that their children will become "new" Nazis.

Um.

Does Germany make anyone else think of bad hardcore pornography, or did I have a truly unique experience in my youth?
I wanted to say that a bit of history is enough for young people to see that things mustn't become like that again. But many old people just think we have to learn it every day. And for the pornography, I think yes, there are no good german pornos:D

Tijs
03-08-2008, 12:45 PM
Since I live near the German border I visit Germany quite often, and I like it. The first things that I think about when I hear "Germany" are:
- Aldi
- Drive as fast as you want
- Ugly language
- Big

I just love driving to the airport in Germany.


Does Germany make anyone else think of hardcore pornography
Yeah it does, actually.

p.s. notice how I've taken away "bad" in the quote?

Paint_It_Black
03-08-2008, 12:53 PM
Maybe I didn't mean bad in a bad way...

HornyPope
03-08-2008, 01:27 PM
I could just as easily argue that a big country can be more boring than a small one. Look at the US for a moment. If you live in the midwest you can drive all day and not feel like you're actually getting anywhere. All the small towns look the same. All the big towns look the same. Oh, look, another McDonalds/Burger King/Wendy's/Best Buy/Wal-Mart/K-Mart/what-the-fuck-ever. Oh look, more flat plains with dead-straight fucking boring highways running through them.

You can go for hours in Canada and see nothing but fields and forests. Not even as much as a fast food joint. You're not going to get that in Europe, that's for sure.

IamSam
03-08-2008, 03:59 PM
Is there good skiing there?

ad8
03-09-2008, 03:06 AM
Is there good skiing there?

Well, there is some skiing, but it is really crowded since many people from Germany come and ski in the small few mountains that we have.

Paint_It_Black
03-09-2008, 07:36 AM
You can go for hours in Canada and see nothing but fields and forests. Not even as much as a fast food joint. You're not going to get that in Europe, that's for sure.

That can be either a hugely positive thing or a hugely negative thing depending on your point of view.

Just more proof that it's retarded to try and argue which countries are more interesting.

HornyPope
03-09-2008, 11:08 AM
It's good if you don't want anyone to bother you while you camp... naked.

JoY
03-09-2008, 01:21 PM
my grandfather was German, from Köln, actually. when someone mentions the city, I feel some sort of weird affection for it, even though I've been there like twice & personally have no relation to the city. what I remember is that my grandfather was very fond of the country & the people, even though he was forced to move to the Netherlands during the war.

I don't go to Germany much, even though it's like an hour drive from my parents'. when in Germany, we mostly are just traveling through to Switzerland. it's pretty underestimated as a country. there's a lot more to do there than people usually think. it can be as flat as the Netherlands, but there are also parts with magnificent mountains. there are the usual poluted concrete cities, but also idyllic little villages with beautiful chapels & fantastic nature. the association we have with Germany overall isn't very positive, though. German tourists who go to the Netherlands & who stand out as German tourists, are often rather irritating people. that, & history taken into acount, makes it too easy to label it with a negative judgement. too bad, really.

Llamas
03-09-2008, 02:39 PM
That can be either a hugely positive thing or a hugely negative thing depending on your point of view.

Just more proof that it's retarded to try and argue which countries are more interesting.

I just realized that I haven't taken the time yet to say how glad I am that you're back, Richard. :) How've you been???

Paint_It_Black
03-10-2008, 01:34 PM
Same old, same old.

Dive
03-11-2008, 11:47 PM
The most pertinent question has not yet been asked: Angela Merkel--would you? 'Cause he would. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGwORpJs96E)

Llamas
03-11-2008, 11:55 PM
haha, that was cute. And the song lyrics were perfect. Angela Merkel is scary looking, but that was silly. Bush is desperate. ;)