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zemanel
01-07-2005, 03:56 AM
Is America's the eternal pseudo economical/political/military World-power or will it die due to china's pseudo-socialist regime and economically strenght beat usa?
It would be ironic acctually, a "socialist" contry defeating usa in a field that usa created and worked for in so many ways.. like in laos or nicaragua, or albania, or Kosovo, or panama..Haaaa World Market, free of red scum..That's what america buit at the cost of milions of lifes... What do you think of that ? Do you think usa will be destroid by China? And what do you think of all the atrocities USA has perpetrated? The milions it killed? I think you deserv all the terrorism you get in your land... cause in fact America created it.. there's no way around it...

wheelchairman
01-07-2005, 05:52 AM
Destroyed by China? No probably not, perhaps bought by China. But that's more cynicism than an actual possible reality.

America's economic problems have been increasing and getting better, then getting even worse, then getting a little better, since WW2. It will probably last for a while, but I think an economic collapse is looming, and that means one factor of foreign policy will be severely weakened (the economic factor), and since the American Defence Forces take up over 50% of the budget, when we lose the money, we will either privatize the defence force (which I think even the republicans can agree, would be a disastrous idea) or have to cut it down significantly.

Nothing lasts forever, to believe America will, is rather foolish.

zemanel
01-07-2005, 08:05 AM
lol that thing of privatising defence forces, that's too cyberpunk to be true...

What I was saying is that EUA won't have enough economic power to continue it's world dominance due to chinas inner market and production capabilities, and due to Europes future federation, that will get stronger and stronger... not that I'm in favour of any of them...

Skate Rat 19
01-09-2005, 04:05 PM
My theory is that once the oil runs out(which should be within at least another decade) the whole world will indescrimnantly fall into an economic depression. Imagine, no more plastic, no more heat, a huge reduction in power, no more driving, no more mobilization, no more legos, no more factory goods, no more computers, no more patroleum products, huge job losses, lots more war over oil, etc..... Really all politics are not gonna mean much when the entire world is pretty much third world. Except the U.S. will have alska's oil and that should help keep America's defending armies mobalized.

acgc2002
01-09-2005, 04:10 PM
Is America's the eternal pseudo economical/political/military World-power or will it die due to china's pseudo-socialist regime and economically strenght beat usa?
It would be ironic acctually, a "socialist" contry defeating usa in a field that usa created and worked for in so many ways.. like in laos or nicaragua, or albania, or Kosovo, or panama..Haaaa World Market, free of red scum..That's what america buit at the cost of milions of lifes... What do you think of that ? Do you think usa will be destroid by China? And what do you think of all the atrocities USA has perpetrated? The milions it killed? I think you deserv all the terrorism you get in your land... cause in fact America created it.. there's no way around it...


I think nothing lasts forever and USA imperialism is about to end. Especially with stupid Bush on power... his policies are completely opposite to Clintonīs and he is dumping the countryīs economy even more to the chaos.
China is having a nice growth and will be a new leader soon.

wheelchairman
01-09-2005, 04:45 PM
I think nothing lasts forever and USA imperialism is about to end. Especially with stupid Bush on power... his policies are completely opposite to Clintonīs and he is dumping the countryīs economy even more to the chaos.
China is having a nice growth and will be a new leader soon.
I would say his policies are just a more extreme version of Clinton's.

acgc2002
01-09-2005, 05:34 PM
I would say his policies are just a more extreme version of Clinton's.


not when it comes to military equipment and expenditure. he is doing the opposite Clinton tried to do. With those expenses the economy booms by means of the "wrong" sector.
I donīt remember where I read, i think it was at the internet or in a lecture at uni... that Bush is a new Hitler. He is doing the same thing hitler did in the inter wars period. the economy seems to be working nicely, when in reality, it isnīt...
Clinton was cool. And you can see everywhere he goes, he is not hated, everyone has a big respect to him. Not like Bush. Just by looking at him, you get furious.

wtf_mate?
01-09-2005, 08:14 PM
I donīt remember where I read, i think it was at the internet or in a lecture at uni... that Bush is a new Hitler. He is doing the same thing hitler did in the inter wars period.


Well...not EVERYTHING. Before Hitler ordered the invasion of Poland (and I think quite a bit before) he began a gun control plan for Germany. No citizens had guns...I guess so he would not fear of any uprisings. I may be wrong on this though.

wheelchairman
01-10-2005, 04:10 AM
not when it comes to military equipment and expenditure. he is doing the opposite Clinton tried to do. With those expenses the economy booms by means of the "wrong" sector.
I donīt remember where I read, i think it was at the internet or in a lecture at uni... that Bush is a new Hitler. He is doing the same thing hitler did in the inter wars period. the economy seems to be working nicely, when in reality, it isnīt...
Clinton was cool. And you can see everywhere he goes, he is not hated, everyone has a big respect to him. Not like Bush. Just by looking at him, you get furious.
There were several military operations under Bill Clinton, the destruction of Iraqi infrastructure for example, served no real purpose. Bill Clinton and NATO invading (whatever your opinion on this) is also increased military action.