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Jakebert
05-06-2008, 01:23 PM
I didn't know what to title this thread, so I'll explain because the title is somewhat misleading: what album that is considered to be a band's best work do you disagree with?

Pink Floyd- Animals > Dark Side of the Moon.

In fact, there's about 4 other Floyd albums that I'd put over Dark Side. Dark Side of the Moon is a good album, but at the same time, it doesn't have nearly the depth that most Pink Floyd albums have.

Husker Du- New Day Rising > Zen Arcade.
Sonic Youth- EVOL > Sister
The Beatles- The White Album > Sgt. Pepper
Sufjan Stevens- Michigan > Illinois
Cat Power- You Are Free > Moon Pix
Red House Painters- Ocean Beach > Rollercoaster

Yatesy
05-06-2008, 01:26 PM
Foo Fighters -S/T>The Colour & The Shape
Beck - Sea change>Odelay
Incubus - Light Grenades>Make Yourself

That's all I can come up with at the minute.

0r4ng3
05-06-2008, 02:58 PM
A Wilhelm Scream - Career Suicide

Not to say that it's not fucking amazing, but Ruiner is better.

coke_a_holic
05-06-2008, 03:16 PM
Sufjan Stevens- Michigan > Illinois

Disagree!

However,

Okkervil River - The Stage Names > Don't Fall In Love With Everyone You See
Against Me! - Searching For A Former Clarity > Reinventing Axl Rose

Alex101
05-06-2008, 03:18 PM
Metallica - Master of Puppets > S/T
D.R.I. - Thrash Zone > Dealing With It!
The Offspring - Ixnay on the Hombre > Smash
Bad Religion - Suffer > Stranger Than Fiction
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss > Reign in Blood

JohnnyNemesis
05-06-2008, 03:37 PM
Kanye West: Graduation > College Dropout > Late Registration

System of a Down: Hypnotize > System of a Down > Steal This Album! > Toxicity > Mezmerize

Eminem: The Eminem Show > The Marshall Mathers LP > The Slim Shady LP > Encore

That's all I got for now.

That_Guy91
05-06-2008, 03:56 PM
System of a Down: Hypnotize > Anything

We're not friends anymore.

Wolfbutter
05-06-2008, 04:04 PM
Kanye West: Graduation > College Dropout > Late Registration

College Dropout is wayyyyyyyy better than Graduation......

[/QUOTE]Eminem: The Eminem Show > The Marshall Mathers LP > The Slim Shady LP > Encore[/QUOTE]

:O Marshall Mathers LP is a billion times better than the Eminem Show!

Also, for Green Day, I consider Nimrod to be their best by far.

jacknife737
05-06-2008, 04:05 PM
Against Me! - Searching For A Former Clarity > Reinventing Axl Rose

Agreed.

Mighty Mighty Bosstones - Jackknife to a Swan > Let's Face It
Green Day - Warning/Nimrod > Dookie
Alkaline Trio - Good Mourning > Goddamnit
NoFx - War on Errorism > So Long and Thanks for all the Shoes
Rancid - Life Won't Wait > Out Come the Wolves

Jakebert
05-06-2008, 04:58 PM
Alkaline Trio - Good Mourning > Goddamnit

I have never understood why people think Good Mourning is weak.

bouncingcoles
05-06-2008, 05:33 PM
Green day, american idiot

0r4ng3
05-06-2008, 06:13 PM
I always felt that American Idiot is both underrated and overrated. Obviously it was the most popular album in the past few years, but that doesn't mean that all the hate for it is legit. Out of the context of popularity, I'm sure it would be a decent album.

XYlophonetreeZ
05-06-2008, 06:16 PM
The Offspring- Ixnay on the Hombre > Smash
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Californication > Blood Sugar Sex Magik
The Blood Brothers- Young Machetes > Crimes
Belle and Sebastian- Dear Catastrophe Waitress > If You're Feeling Sinister
Alice in Chains- Jar of Flies > Dirt

Very much agree on The Beatles- White Album > Sgt. Pepper

Sidewinder
05-06-2008, 06:38 PM
Against Me! - Searching For A Former Clarity > Reinventing Axl Rose

The Offspring- Ixnay on the Hombre > Smash
Red Hot Chili Peppers- Californication > Blood Sugar Sex Magik


Agreed.
Mine:

Better Than Ezra: Before the Robots > Closer > How Does Your Garden Grow > Deluxe
The New Pornographers: Challengers > all the rest

GBH2
05-06-2008, 06:40 PM
Bad Religion: No Substance + New America > Suffer + Against the Grain + No Control + pretty much everything else

WebDudette
05-06-2008, 07:28 PM
*Give Up the Ghost/American Nightmare - Down 'Til We're Underground > Background Music.
*Some Girls - All My Friends Are Going Deaf > Heaven's Pregnant Teens.
mewithoutYou - [A-B] Life > Brother, Sister.
Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith and Devotion > Violator.
**Godspeed You Black Emperor - F# A# (Infinity) > Yanqui U.X.O > Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven.
The Blood Brothers - Burn Piano Island, Burn ≥ Crimes > Young Machetes


Cat Power- You Are Free > Moon Pix


Kanye West: Graduation > College Dropout > Late Registration


*Based on the opinion of 4 people.
**Kind of a guess, I'm not sure about the individual popularity of those albums.

Jakebert
05-06-2008, 07:42 PM
*
**Godspeed You Black Emperor - F# A# (Infinity) > Yanqui U.X.O > Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven.

With Godspeed, I find all 3 of those albums to be perfect, so I honestly couldn't choose between them if I tried, which I have many a time.

opivy21
05-06-2008, 08:09 PM
I think Antennas... is their most critically acclaimed, but I like Yanqui U.X.O. the best out of what I've heard.

Cock Joke
05-06-2008, 08:14 PM
Whatever the fuck Usher put out in 2002 that got him the undeserved exposure that he had!

I seriously hope we never hear from him again!

JohnnyNemesis
05-06-2008, 08:33 PM
We're not friends anymore.

I can deal with that!


Depeche Mode - Songs of Faith and Devotion > Violator.

Ooooh, that's a bold one. I vehemently disagree. But I can respect that.

Unnatural Disaster
05-06-2008, 08:50 PM
Green Day - 1039/Smoothed Out Slappy Hours > American Idiot

Almost Anything > Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon, I just don't like this album at all.

Disturbed - Believe > Ten Thousand Fists

Atreyu - Lead Sails Paper Anchor > All their old stuff

Short_Attention_Span
05-06-2008, 10:40 PM
Husker Du- New Day Rising > Zen Arcade.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

Green Day: Warning > Dookie
X: More Fun in the New World > Los Angeles
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Omni
05-07-2008, 11:31 AM
Metallica - Master of Puppets > S/T
D.R.I. - Thrash Zone > Dealing With It!
The Offspring - Ixnay on the Hombre > Smash
Bad Religion - Suffer > Stranger Than Fiction
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss > Reign in Blood



I was always under the impression that Master of Puppets was considered their best anyway.

As for mine, I think Pearl Jam's "Yield" is better than "Ten" or "Vs." which everyone says is a toss up for their best two.

JohnnyNemesis
05-07-2008, 11:52 AM
For me, when it comes to Metallica, it's Ride the Lightning > everything, which most people go "WHAAAAAAAAAAT?!" to.

For me, when it comes to Pearl Jam, it's vs. > everything, but I think most people choose Ten or Yield as their favorites. Yield is one of those albums that I consider so overrated that it's become underrated. People praise it so much that it gets tiresome hearing about how brilliant it is, until you listen to it and go "holy shit every single song is a goddamned masterpiece".

barangatang
05-07-2008, 12:02 PM
Alice in Chains- Jar of Flies > Dirt


Yes, but

Dirt>Tripod(self titled)

I probably deserve the hate I'm going to recieve for my ludicrous opinions:

Modest Mouse-The Lonesome Crowded West>This is a long drive for someone with nothing to think about>The Moon and Antartica

Radiohead- OK Computer>Hail to the Thief

Elliot smith-Either/Or>From a Basement on a Hill

The White Stripes- Elephant>Get behind me Satan

Andy
05-07-2008, 12:04 PM
Alkaline Trio - Good Mourning > Goddamnit

This is the first time I've read anywhere that Goddamnit was seen as their best work. Really? I'd say it was S/T > everything. Good Mourning is great, however.

I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned Nevermind yet, probably the most overrated album of our generation so far.

Nirvana - In Utero > Nevermind

My mind is blank now.

jacknife737
05-07-2008, 12:07 PM
This is the first time I've read anywhere that Goddamnit was seen as their best work. Really? I'd say it was S/T > everything. Good Mourning is great, however.

I think i just spend too much time on punknews.org, where everyone seems is obsessed with that album.

nieh
05-07-2008, 12:25 PM
Radiohead- OK Computer>Hail to the Thief

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say Hail to the Thief is better than OK Computer.

Anyway, Amnesiac > OK Computer = Kid A > Hail to the Thief = In Rainbows

Jakebert
05-07-2008, 12:31 PM
Radiohead- OK Computer>Hail to the Thief

Elliot smith-Either/Or>From a Basement on a Hill


I'm pretty sure these are a pretty common opinion.

0r4ng3
05-07-2008, 12:44 PM
AFI - Sing The Sorrow > The Art of Drowning/Black Sails in the Sunset

*runs and hides*

BREAK
05-07-2008, 01:05 PM
...k, couple things:

- The Greatest is Cat Power's best album. I don't want to live in a world where anybody thinks otherwise.
- March On Electric Children is the best Blood Brothers album. Young Machetes is the worst. Everything else falls by the wayside.
- Every Pink Floyd album is overrated except for Meddle.
- Lupe Fiasco's The Cool is so much better than Food & Liquor. Not that I give a fuck, being a cracker or whatever.
- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back > Fear of a Black Planet by a wide margin, though I think this view is generally held.
- Marvin Gaye's Midnight Love > What's Going On for serious.
- Joy Division's Closer > Unknown Pleasures, though both are probably overrated.
- Tribe's Midnight Marauders > The Low End Theory, for no reason.
- Boy and October are U2's best albums. Joshua Tree holds 3rd place, and after that who cares.
- Every Pearl Jam album is the same. It's absurd to suggest there's a huge difference in quality between any two, this includes both discs of Lost Dogs.
- For Beatles, Let it Be > Abbey Road, I mean it.

Alright, done.

Short_Attention_Span
05-07-2008, 01:42 PM
- Every Pearl Jam album is the same. It's absurd to suggest there's a huge difference in quality between any two, this includes both discs of Lost Dogs.


The same in a good way... ?
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Omni
05-07-2008, 03:10 PM
For me, when it comes to Metallica, it's Ride the Lightning > everything, which most people go "WHAAAAAAAAAAT?!" to.

For me, when it comes to Pearl Jam, it's vs. > everything, but I think most people choose Ten or Yield as their favorites. Yield is one of those albums that I consider so overrated that it's become underrated. People praise it so much that it gets tiresome hearing about how brilliant it is, until you listen to it and go "holy shit every single song is a goddamned masterpiece".


Really? I don't remember a point of time where Yield was EVER overrated. It barely went Platinum, and it's almost entirely forgotten at this point. I had to buy it used because I couldn't find a new copy somewhere. I haven't heard any Yield song on the radio in ages upon ages. With Ten or Vs. on the otherhand, there's always a new copy somewhere, and I still hear Evenflow, Jeremy, Daughter, Glorified G, and Yellow Ledbetter (OK, not from Ten, but it was an outtake) on the radio. Ten is almost Diamond certified, and Vs. set a record for copies sold within a week. I think that for the most part, Yield is a lost item.



- Every Pearl Jam album is the same. It's absurd to suggest there's a huge difference in quality between any two, this includes both discs of Lost Dogs.


Then you've obviously never listened to No Code, and then listened to the two albums it's sandwiched in between (Vitalogy and Yield).

JohnnyNemesis
05-07-2008, 04:02 PM
First off, I've never heard anyone even suggest that Hail to the Thief was listenable, much less better than OK Computer. No one likes that album.


AFI - Sing The Sorrow > The Art of Drowning/Black Sails in the Sunset

I could fucking kill you right now.


- Lupe Fiasco's The Cool is so much better than Food & Liquor.

The Cool has more shitty songs on it than Food & Liquor, but the songs that are actually good are, for the most part, better than anything on Food & Liquor (except for The Emperor's Soundtrack, which is the best thing he's ever done and the best thing he ever will do). Anyway, it's a tossup, I'd suggest.

0r4ng3
05-07-2008, 04:29 PM
I could fucking kill you right now.
No you cant, I ran and hid. You saw it, didn't you!

Okay, maybe only This Celluloid Dream > those albums.

Llamas
05-07-2008, 04:41 PM
Barenaked Ladies: Born on a Pirate Ship, Maybe You Should Drive, Maroon > Stunt, Gordon.

Collective Soul: Disciplined Breakdown, Youth, Afterwords, Dosage > S/T.

Static X: Start a War, Cannibal, Shadown Zone > Wisconsin Death Trip

Alanis Morissette: Jagged Little Pill (acoustic) > Jagged Little Pill

Goo Goo Dolls: Superstar Carwash > Dizzy up the Girl or A Boy Named Goo.

Tool: Lateralus > Aenima

Nelly Furtado: Folklore > Whoa Nelly! or Loose

Bush: Razorblade Suitcase and Science of Things > Sixteen Stone

A Perfect Circle: Thirteenth Step > Mer de Noms

Eve 6: Horrorscope > S/T

Jay Z: Black Album and Blueprint 2.1 > The Blueprint

Lucky Boys Confusion: Commitment > Throwing the Game



:O Marshall Mathers LP is a billion times better than the Eminem Show!
sosossosososos agreed. Marshall Mathers LP > Eminem Show > Slim Shady LP > Encore



Green Day - Warning > Dookie
Alkaline Trio - Good Mourning > Goddamnit
Very yes (with one small edit). I don't get why people love Goddamnit so much... Good Mourning kicks its ass.


This is the first time I've read anywhere that Goddamnit was seen as their best work. Really? I'd say it was S/T > everything. Good Mourning is great, however.
S/T?? The only album lamer than S/T is From Here to Infirmary. Good lord!

Good Mourning > Crimson > Maybe I'll Catch Fire > Goddamnit > S/T > From Here to Infirmary

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0r4ng3
05-07-2008, 04:54 PM
It may be their worst album, but at least From Here to Infirmary has Armageddon. You can't deny them that.

WebDudette
05-07-2008, 04:56 PM
As far as I can tell this one is about half-half.

Afi - Art of Drowning > Black Sails in the Sunset.

FrancoDaHui
05-07-2008, 04:59 PM
A Perfect Circle: Thirteenth Step > Mer de Noms


completely agreed

queens of the stone age
rated r>songs for the deaf
it seems that everyone i know like a lot more SFTD than Rated R

bad religion
The New America>Stranger Than Fiction

The Music
Welcome to the North > S/T

Llamas
05-07-2008, 05:25 PM
The Music
Welcome to the North > S/T

I agree fully, but I barely know anybody who knows of The Music... therefore, I don't think S/T could really be overrated. I've never known anybody who liked them, actually.

But totally. Welcome to the North is a fantastic album, and totally owns S/T.

Andy
05-07-2008, 05:50 PM
S/T?? The only album lamer than S/T is From Here to Infirmary. Good lord!


Really? Really?

Really?

Pfft, well we'll have to agree to disagree there m'lady. Granted, I've not listened to much Alkaline Trio since the autumn* so I may have to have a recap on the morrow.

Saying that, I can easily listen to From Here to Infirmary. Yes, it's a pop album, but it's a damn listenable pop album! Mr Chainsaw, You're Dead and Armageddon are easily some of my favourite songs by the band.

Good Mourning, however, will always be up there: The album that got me into the band, and one of the few albums that I know pretty much every word to.

I've thought of a couple more:

McLusky - The Difference Between Me And You Is I'm Not On Fire > McLusky Do Dallas
Goldfinger - Hang Ups > everything
The Mars Volta - Amputechture > Frances The Mute
Weezer - Pinkerton > The Blue Album
The Vandals - Internet Dating Superstuds/Hitler Bad, Vandals Good > Live Fast, Diarrhoea
Rx Bandits - Progress > The Resignation
Less Than Jake - Borders & Boundaries > Hello Rockview
Green Day - Insomniac > Dookie
Foo Fighters - Colour & The Shape > There's Nothing Left To Lose

*Yes, I have seasonal bands but that's a whole other thread that's yet to be created.

Llamas
05-07-2008, 05:59 PM
U craZY, boiii. From Here to Infirmary is just so unoriginal. But I do enjoy Armaggedon and Mr. Chainsaw. Those are the only songs on there that I like and find to be original.

I would like to add on Weezer. Cause Maladroit > Blue Album. Srsly.

That_Guy91
05-07-2008, 07:10 PM
I can deal with that!

You know what? DA PANTZ IS OVERRATED.

lol jk I <3 it moar plz

nieh
05-07-2008, 07:16 PM
The Mars Volta - Amputechture > Frances The Mute


Does anyone even like Frances the Mute, let alone think it's their best album?

JohnnyNemesis
05-07-2008, 09:04 PM
You know what? DA PANTZ IS OVERRATED.

lol jk I <3 it moar plz

Haha, I didn't even see the hidden text until I quoted you.

I was gonna be all like "omg CRYS I CRY NOW"

Andy
05-08-2008, 09:33 AM
Does anyone even like Frances the Mute, let alone think it's their best album?

Aye, the people I know who are Volta fans (yes, all three of them) all love Frances the Mute.

Oh, and:

Oceansize - Frames > All

maplejet
05-08-2008, 10:40 AM
Korn - See You On The Other Side > Follow the Leader/Issues

Unnatural Disaster
05-08-2008, 01:12 PM
A Perfect Circle: Thirteenth Step > Mer de Noms




I can never tell which of those I like better, depends on my mood I guess.

OffspringHead
05-08-2008, 01:42 PM
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss > Reign in Blood
Seasons was fucking sick. Reign in Blood was asshole.

Yatesy
05-09-2008, 10:59 AM
Dream Theater - Octavarium> Images And Words

I honestly don't see whats wrong with Octavarium and why people slate it so much as it's personally my favourite.

Ninty Man
05-09-2008, 08:39 PM
completely agreed



bad religion
The New America>Stranger Than Fiction




I could not agree more:

New Maps from hell> New America> Generator> Against the grain>Stranger than fiction>the gray race>No substance> the empire strikes first>the process of belief>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no control>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>< suffer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>how could hell be any worse>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>recipe for hate>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into the unknown




The offspring: Ixnay on the hombre>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ignition>>>>>>>>> Smash

Van Halen:

5150>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1984

.:SMASH:.
05-10-2008, 05:22 AM
Everything by:

Fallout Boy
Green Day
Audioslave (just boring.)
Foo Fighters (good but way overrated)
Limp Bizcuit
NOFX
Pennywise

Others:

All albums except Satellite by POD.
Alot of Papa Roach Albums
A lot of Muse (good songs, poor albums)
Linkin Park - Minutes to Midnight
Silverchair - Young Modern...something or rather
Taking Back Sunday - Tell All Your Friends
That one by Hinder

That's all I can think of for now

0r4ng3
05-10-2008, 06:19 AM
Everything by:

Fallout Boy
Green Day
Audioslave (just boring.)
Foo Fighters (good but way overrated)
Limp Bizcuit
NOFX
Pennywise
I'm pretty sure this falls under overrated bands, not albums.

Also,
Rise Against - The Sufferer and the Witness = Revolutions Per Minute (as opposed to <)

Ninty Man
05-10-2008, 06:59 AM
Everything by:

Fallout Boy
Green Day
Audioslave (just boring.)
Foo Fighters (good but way overrated)
Limp Bizcuit
NOFX
Pennywise

Others:

All albums except Satellite by POD.
Alot of Papa Roach Albums
A lot of Muse (good songs, poor albums)
Linkin Park - Minutes to Midnight
Silverchair - Young Modern...something or rather
Taking Back Sunday - Tell All Your Friends
That one by Hinder

That's all I can think of for now

DUH???? I can't get it

ruroken
05-10-2008, 10:58 AM
AFI: Sing the Sorrow > The Art of Drowning > Black Sails in the Sunset

Mindless Self Indulgence: Despierta Los Ninos > Alienating Our Audience > You'll Rebel to Anything > Tight > FGWSSS

Incubus: Morning View > ACLOTM > Light Grenades

Buckethead: Pepper's Ghost > Crime Slunk Scene (though both are amazing)

Depeche Mode: A Broken Frame > Violator

Matchbox Twenty: More Than You Think You Are > everything else

0r4ng3
05-10-2008, 12:43 PM
AFI: Sing the Sorrow > The Art of Drowning > Black Sails in the Sunset
You should probably run and hide for that one. Just a heads up.

Llamas
05-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Incubus: Morning View > ACLOTM > Light Grenades

Matchbox Twenty: More Than You Think You Are > everything else

Those aren't against the general view. Most Incubus fans splooge over Morning View (I go against the grain and think it's their worst one, though). And most people thought More Than You... was MB20's best album. When I was a fan, I liked Mad Season the best, and everyone yelled at me.

In conclusion, you just agreed with the majority with those two. :P

ruroken
05-10-2008, 10:31 PM
I know. I was referring more to ACLOTM, but I couldn't say its better than Morning View.
And nobody here seems to acknowledge the existence of More Than You Think You Are :(

Llamas
05-11-2008, 01:31 AM
I know. I was referring more to ACLOTM, but I couldn't say its better than Morning View.

Ah, gotcha. You should've just said "ACLOTM > Light Grenades", then. I personally rank those two albums equally, but I guess generally ACLOTM was shat on, while people seem to love the new one.


And nobody here seems to acknowledge the existence of More Than You Think You Are :(
Really? I thought everyone went nuts over that album. I loved it when I first got it, then over time found it very bland and redundant... then ended up finding all of MB20's music bland and redundant, haha.

Their best song is a jazzy version of one of the songs of Mad Season. I think it's Crutch... It rocks. I also ADORE the hidden track on that album. Holy shit. Though I've always been unsure as to whether or not they actually performed that song... so it might not count.

Edit: HOLY SHIT. I just put on both songs I just mentioned... and had to listen to "You Won't Be Mine" in order to get to the hidden track... this song is amazing. Like, holy shit. omg. <3 this might force me to listen to the entire Mad Season album... for the first time in years.