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RODNEYMULLEN
05-08-2008, 05:52 PM
I can say with confidence that i will not download it. And even if i did it would not stop me from buying the real cd. But i'm curiouse who will be downloading the leak (if there will be one).

dff_punk
05-08-2008, 05:55 PM
I think Ill download only Half-Truism, and maybe some third song if I couldnt resist, but I will hear all the rest when I buy the album. That is exactly what I did with Splinter and CO1. We should create a thread for non-listeners of the leak when it appears :D

Nemesis881
05-08-2008, 05:56 PM
I will but thats only so I can learn all the songs before I add the album to my collection :cool:

Ryder1234
05-08-2008, 06:00 PM
^^yeah, just half-truism, but maybe if its eating at me, trust in you as well. i cant stop listening to that shitty quality rip, it sounds so much like smash

Camilamazed
05-08-2008, 06:01 PM
No. I definitely won't. I didn't listen to Half-truism nor Trust in you. I will immediately block people who tempt me on my MSN if it leaks.

Because of a friend, I couldn't help but listen to Hammerhead. Fuck.

bouncingcoles
05-08-2008, 06:05 PM
hell ya im getting the leak. but im also going to buy it the day its released

Ryder1234
05-08-2008, 06:07 PM
its probably good you listened to HH, camilamazed, because if you didnt, you might have died from to much perfection when you listen to the album

RODNEYMULLEN
05-08-2008, 06:10 PM
You know what, i change my mind. Only and i mean only if there is a full album 320 kbps rip will i listen to it.

dff_punk
05-08-2008, 06:29 PM
You know what, i change my mind. Only and i mean only if there is a full album 320 kbps rip will i listen to it.

It took you 18 minutes to change your mind :D

RODNEYMULLEN
05-08-2008, 06:34 PM
It took you 18 minutes to change your mind :D

Well, if it's 320 kbps then it'll be just about as good as the real thing, so i don't really see why not.

0r4ng3
05-08-2008, 06:40 PM
hell ya im getting the leak. but im also going to buy it the day its released
Yeah, what he said. If the leak is low quality but the songs are good, then I know it'll only be that much better when I buy it.

randman21
05-08-2008, 06:42 PM
The album's first release will be in Japan on May 11, so I think I can wait six days. If it were to somehow leak, say, tomorrow, then I would most likely be downloading that.

JohnnyNemesis
05-08-2008, 06:45 PM
Nope, not at all. My original plan was to not even download Hammerhead, but that's different 'cause it's the first single and all.

RODNEYMULLEN
05-08-2008, 06:50 PM
The album's first release will be in Japan on May 11, so I think I can wait six days. If it were to somehow leak, say, tomorrow, then I would most likely be downloading that.

Are you fucking seriouse? I thought the earliest it would come out was June 16th. Only one day earlier. This is way better! And not 6 days 3, it's may 8th today.

RGR22
05-08-2008, 07:10 PM
Defnitely NO... I will wait until I buy the album. I've only listened to HH so half/truism is still a mistery for me!

Aight Then
05-08-2008, 07:16 PM
Absolutely. I don't want to buy it, and I'll still be "suprised" when I hear the leak for the first time. I honestly just want to listen to it.

Fall-children
05-08-2008, 07:32 PM
i'll download it, the album comes to my country 1 or 2 monts later...so..

Tired_Of_You
05-08-2008, 07:47 PM
Are you fucking seriouse? I thought the earliest it would come out was June 16th. Only one day earlier. This is way better! And not 6 days 3, it's may 8th today. Japan = June 11th.

RODNEYMULLEN
05-08-2008, 08:01 PM
Japan = June 11th.

I've never been so happy! Ok this is for everybody in japan. I want a 320 kbps torrent or at least nothing less than 256kbps.

crrrN
05-08-2008, 08:19 PM
Fuck yea im gonna download it. I need to hear this shit now! Im not gonna torture myself and wait until 17th of June.

Cock Joke
05-08-2008, 08:37 PM
It's bad enough I'm listening to Hammerhead obsessively before the release date! I'm not touching any leaks at all. I wanna hear them for the 1st time in my car on the way home from Best Buy!

Titus
05-08-2008, 08:38 PM
I so will
Untill the cd come here it will be like july, so I will download if and then buy it when I find it

gabrielpatriarca
05-08-2008, 09:22 PM
I'll donwnload it all... and then wait for the album price to get lower... and then buy it hehe... I'm in Brazil and the imported CD's are very expensive here... so I don't feel bad at all.
And it's also gonna take like a month until the album comes to the stores here.

Unnatural Disaster
05-08-2008, 09:51 PM
I will, but I will also buy the album on June 17th

Killboy
05-08-2008, 09:59 PM
No, I won't.
I did that with Splinter, and I swore that it was not gonna happen with the new album; downloading it ruins everything

Wolfbutter
05-08-2008, 10:03 PM
How does downloading ruin anything?

randman21
05-08-2008, 10:08 PM
It's bad enough I'm listening to Hammerhead obsessively before the release date! I'm not touching any leaks at all. I wanna hear them for the 1st time in my car on the way home from Best Buy!

Hehe, that's where I'm buying mine. It's the only place I've found that has all of their albums in stock, even some singles.

Killboy
05-08-2008, 10:08 PM
How does downloading ruin anything?

It's not like it ruins it to the point not to buy the album. I say that it ruins everything because there's nothing like the excitement you feel when you just buy the album and wonder "how does it sound like?" and then you discover it's hell of an album.

SyLeS
05-08-2008, 10:22 PM
no i will not download it, im gonna go and pick it up right on june 17th though. Theres no possible way i could wait any longer!

slade
05-08-2008, 10:59 PM
I will download it a split second after it's leaked. No doubt about it.

ShutUpYouFuckingMime
05-08-2008, 11:02 PM
Half-Truism and Trust in You only.

jacknife737
05-09-2008, 12:16 AM
No; because for me, there is no better feeling in the world then opening that album that you've been waiting years for on the release day then lying on my bed and reading the booklet whilst listening to the tracks for the first time. I've downloaded the free version of Hammerhead, and a live version of Half-Truism, and that is it for me.

splinterosaur
05-09-2008, 01:54 AM
Absolutely NOT. I'll hear it the first time when I have the cd in my hands (or well, in stereos). I think downloading all those leaks is stupid, just because something has illegaly been uploaded doesn't mean you have to get it. I consider this the same than if you break into some store's storage room and steal the cd before it's on sale and then sneak it back after listening it through a few times. (I'm assuming the downloaders will buy the cd when it's out, in this case.)

The_Bass
05-09-2008, 01:59 AM
No, I will not.

Forza
05-09-2008, 02:37 AM
Sure, since actually having the cd does not give me any extra utility. I only listen to mp3's anyway.

wazzup22
05-09-2008, 03:01 AM
I will download it, but I will also buy the album as soon as it comes out.

Superdope
05-09-2008, 03:06 AM
No; because for me, there is no better feeling in the world then opening that album that you've been waiting years for on the release day then lying on my bed and reading the booklet whilst listening to the tracks for the first time. I've downloaded the free version of Hammerhead, and a live version of Half-Truism, and that is it for me.

I wholeheartedly agree

Stoned Mosquito
05-09-2008, 03:55 AM
hell yeah Iīll download it.
Iīm buying the album when it comes out so I donīt see anything wrong with getting to listen to it before.

leo3375
05-09-2008, 04:28 AM
I'll probably download it, then trash the leaked version once I have a physical copy in my hands.

holland25
05-09-2008, 04:56 AM
I will. Then buy it (6 days is long enough to loose patience).

Macko
05-09-2008, 05:20 AM
Anti-flag : The Bright Lights Of America
Leak date: 2008-03-18
Release date: 2008-04-01

Queens of the Stone Age : Era Vulgaris
Leak date : 2007-06-05
Release date: 2007-06-12

I won't wait one,two maybe even three more weeks after it will leak! :)
(But of course, I'll buy it the first day it's released)

The_Bass
05-09-2008, 05:46 AM
That means we might get it by the end of this month.

Very tempting...

darea
05-09-2008, 06:21 AM
I wouldn't download it. But if my boyfriend does, then I wouldnt not listen to it just because Im so stuborn about wanting to wait for the actual album!

joey1234
05-09-2008, 06:26 AM
Up until the latest album I didnīt even have internet connection so I only heard Splinter when I bought it. I wanted to wait and have the new album in my hands but Iīm waiting for 5 years to hear some new stuff..... I think I wonīt resist downloading it. And even if it sucks (IT WONīT), Iīm gonna buy it anyway. :)

zsk
05-09-2008, 06:31 AM
i think it's good to have the original!

Dexter_italy
05-09-2008, 06:57 AM
I will and I can't wait to download it :D but the 13th of june you can stay shure I'll be in front of the doors of the music store at the opening as I did for splinter :D
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Hypodermic_89
05-09-2008, 07:45 AM
Fuck no. I will never download the leak. Only Offspring songs I have downloaded are the ones that are legal (Original Prankster and Hammerhead) plus all the b-sides.

PS: I love the fact that the forum background color is black. Now you can actually hide words!LOL I CANT BELIIV U CHEKD LOL I DIN'T HIDE N E THIN.

ThunderPX
05-09-2008, 08:58 AM
I wish I could say no, but my willpower sucks too much. :P

Indii
05-09-2008, 11:48 AM
I wish I could say no, but my willpower sucks too much. :P

Same with me. But I'll try to resist nonetheless. The best thing for me would be, if it didn't leak at all. But I know that won't happen. The new Melvins record leaked over a month ago and won't be in stores until july. The Sword's second album leaked in early February and didn't come out until the end of march. I know these are extreme examples, but I don't think it is unusual that albums leak about a month before the official release.
So I hope the best (meaning that it won't leak at all) but fear the worst (that it leaks tomorrow). :rolleyes:

pulstar
05-09-2008, 01:33 PM
Waiting while you people talk about the songs will be torture! But still, i'll wait for the official release because eventually it feels better when you don't know yet all the songs on the album. Buying the cd and then listen will be so intense.

offspring101m
05-09-2008, 01:34 PM
yup i will download it for sure, i usually download every artists album i like then when it comes out i buy it to support them, so they keep making music,

disclaimer_07
05-09-2008, 02:12 PM
I don't know if I'm gonna download it before I buy it. I only know that I will buy it for sure 'cause i am dying to have the songs untouched by any compression. Before I bought Splinter, the only song from it I hadn't previously listened to was "Never Gonna Find Me".

Wolfbutter
05-09-2008, 06:14 PM
Waiting while you people talk about the songs will be torture! But still, i'll wait for the official release because eventually it feels better when you don't know yet all the songs on the album. Buying the cd and then listen will be so intense.

This makes no sense. Even if you get the leak, it will still be your first time listening.

Ninty Man
05-09-2008, 10:04 PM
offspring encourages downloading on internet, so i dont see why we should
deceive them!

MMM YEAH! ;)

Dragnet
05-10-2008, 01:29 AM
Why is everyone so keen on 256 or 320 kbps mp3s?

Most people don't even notice a loss of quality at 192 kbps.
128 kbps is kind of outdated though but still enough for most suckers. ;)

jacknife737
05-10-2008, 01:39 AM
Although i'm not a complete luddite (i own an mp3 player), there just seems to be something "missing" when downloading a leak; i have a hard time getting attached to nothing but data.

disclaimer_07
05-10-2008, 02:21 AM
Why is everyone so keen on 256 or 320 kbps mp3s?

Most people don't even notice a loss of quality at 192 kbps.
128 kbps is kind of outdated though but still enough for most suckers. ;)

Well, depends on the equipment you are using. But 128 kbps really sucks, almost on every equipment.

Splinter[PI]
05-10-2008, 03:51 AM
Vote No. 100 by me^^

pulstar
05-10-2008, 05:46 AM
This makes no sense. Even if you get the leak, it will still be your first time listening.
I meant that if you heard the leak and then you buy the cd, the cd is just special because you have made your collection complete, nothing more, because you already know all the songs on it. Also a leak is just some stuff on a computer, nothing you have in your hands. While if you don't listen to the leak, then buy the cd, you can put it on in your car, computer, cd player, ... the album isn't only a disc then, it's an item you're very curious about and want to listen to it as soon as you can. You still have to discover most of the songs for the first time. Do you understand now?

The_Bass
05-10-2008, 08:04 AM
Dragnet, I've got good speakers, and know some about good quality. Trust me, I will hear the difference bitween 128 kbps and 192/320 kbps...

HeadAroundU
05-10-2008, 08:48 AM
No, I will not download it. But only because it's offspring and I buy only their albums. :)

sneedo
05-10-2008, 09:19 AM
Well, depends on the equipment you are using. But 128 kbps really sucks, almost on every equipment.

actually this is a bullshit statement, most people can't tell the difference between 128 and 192, there are sites and studies about this, 128 is fine.

Erfa
05-10-2008, 09:39 AM
Yeah, of course, why wouldn't I? That doesn't stop me from buying the CD later. Would that make the songs feel worse or something? I never noticed that with Hammerhead anyway.

IamSam
05-10-2008, 11:09 AM
Yeah I'll download it. I'll be first in line in my city to buy it. Who said downloading ever stopped you from purchasing?

RODNEYMULLEN
05-10-2008, 01:42 PM
Fuck! The mods keep deleting my posts, there was a link here earlier to a leak website, and some guy qouted him with i love you or something like that, but the mods deleted it, then when i asked this same question earlier the mods deleted that. So was that link the leak. And also the mods changed the name of my thread from will you download a leak, to would you download the leak. What the fuck was the point of that. So i guess what i want to know is what that link yesterday the leak?

RODNEYMULLEN
05-10-2008, 02:37 PM
Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace should be online tommorow because tommorow is may 11th and thats when it come out in japan, right?

Jack-UK
05-10-2008, 02:40 PM
I would download it 100%. If it was the actual album.

Then, June 16th, i'd be out to buy a hard copy. Only because i support the band. I put all songs on my ipod anyway... i'd buy the CD just because i like the offspring, but i'd download their music before :)

YODAvid
05-10-2008, 02:46 PM
Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace should be online tommorow because tommorow is may 11th and thats when it come out in japan, right?


its june 11

RODNEYMULLEN
05-10-2008, 02:53 PM
The album's first release will be in Japan on May 11, so I think I can wait six days. If it were to somehow leak, say, tomorrow, then I would most likely be downloading that.

So is it may 11th or june 11th?

IamSam
05-10-2008, 03:41 PM
So is it may 11th or june 11th?

June 11th.

djchopdogfresh
05-10-2008, 05:53 PM
I pretty much only listen to music on cds. I don't have a walkman or ipod haha. I wait until the song is actually played on TV or radio before I listen to it. Then, I go out and buy the album. You could post a link in here "Saying preview of the new Offspring song" and I won't listen to it. I would even buy the album without listening to a single song from it. Come to think of it, I've bought albums by bands just because people on websites rave on about them and I hadn't even heard a song of theirs before I bought the album.

clocks_R_slow
05-10-2008, 06:32 PM
nope, i've been waiting so long (along with all you other faithful offy fans) i wouldn't download it, i'm gonna be a true pal and wait for the release :D

RODNEYMULLEN
05-10-2008, 06:39 PM
The album's first release will be in Japan on May 11, so I think I can wait six days. If it were to somehow leak, say, tomorrow, then I would most likely be downloading that.


Damm You! :mad: Do you know how exited i was? It's june 11th not may.

TheOldMark
05-10-2008, 07:01 PM
Same with me. But I'll try to resist nonetheless. The best thing for me would be, if it didn't leak at all. But I know that won't happen.


publications, magazines, radio stations etc. get the record 4-6 weeks in advance to they can review it. my friend has a deal with Epitaph, they send him preleases here and there so he can review them. the offspring most likely do the same. they wouldn't avoid that just so the kids on the BBS wont get their hands on it.

Llamas
05-10-2008, 07:57 PM
Fuck! The mods keep deleting my posts, there was a link here earlier to a leak website, and some guy qouted him with i love you or something like that, but the mods deleted it, then when i asked this same question earlier the mods deleted that. So was that link the leak. And also the mods changed the name of my thread from will you download a leak, to would you download the leak. What the fuck was the point of that. So i guess what i want to know is what that link yesterday the leak?

It was probably deleted because the mods don't want a link that's marked as a leak posted on the official page. They might not have even checked the link to see what it is.

And the title was probably changed (the name was changed differently than what you said) because "will you download the leak" = there will be a leak, will you download it? "would you download a leak" = in the event there might be a leak, would you download it? I bet if the band or Columbia saw "will you download the leak" they'd get pretty upset.

I don't get why so many people can't understand why the mods need to take steps to make sure the Offspring's bbs is run how they want it to be run, and that things regarding illegal downloading of their album aren't all over the board.


Damm You! Do you know how exited i was? It's june 11th not may.
That person made a typo. Next time you read a fact that clashes with what you previously heard, and it was only made by one person, you should research it instead of believing it and getting excited.

randman21
05-11-2008, 05:12 AM
Damm You! :mad: Do you know how exited i was? It's june 11th not may.

Woooow. I can't believe I put May. I didn't even mean to write a month at all, just "the 11th". But now you get what I meant about "six days". Haha, sorry to get yer hopes up, dudeski.:o

YODAvid
05-11-2008, 06:51 AM
at least 80% of the people saying "i will wait until june to buy it" are going to download the leak anyways.

... as soon as the first thread about the album opens saying "ooh my gawd this so kewl it fukkin rawks omgz u peoplez thank gawd i dont hav 2 weyt until joon HERES 2 THE LEEK" they will rethink their shit.

disclaimer_07
05-11-2008, 07:37 AM
actually this is a bullshit statement, most people can't tell the difference between 128 and 192, there are sites and studies about this, 128 is fine.

This is not bullshit. Try and listen:
Want You Bad 128 kbps Stereo (http://rapidshare.com/files/114135075/Want_You_Bad_128_kbps_Stereo.mp3)
Want You Bad 192 kbps Joint Stereo (http://rapidshare.com/files/114135790/Want_You_Bad_192_kbps_Joint_Stereo.mp3)
Both were compressed with the same encoder - LAME 3.92, I also used Joint Stereo for the second one to increase the "gap" between them, a 128 Joint Stereo song will most likely sound better than a 128 Stereo song.

Lipo
05-11-2008, 09:06 AM
When you think the album will leak?

YODAvid
05-11-2008, 09:15 AM
pretty much this week or the following.

holland25
05-11-2008, 09:41 AM
The end of May...

GunForHire
05-13-2008, 06:26 AM
On the topic of leaks, I guess they deleted Soxicmusic's threads, particularly his one with the album review?

disclaimer_07
05-13-2008, 06:31 AM
On the topic of leaks, I guess they deleted Soxicmusic's threads, particularly his one with the album review?

Yeah, I can't find any, and his postcount is 0.

Indii
05-13-2008, 06:45 AM
Yeah, I can't find any, and his postcount is 0.

And they do it without any comment. I don't think he did something wrong. He heard a promo and told the people how he thinks about the songs. So why did the mods delete all his threads and posts?

disclaimer_07
05-13-2008, 06:47 AM
BTW, did anyone copy his review somewhere? I didn't have time to read it carefully yesterday. Thanks.

disclaimer_07
05-13-2008, 06:51 AM
And they do it without any comment. I don't think he did something wrong. He heard a promo and told the people how he thinks about the songs. So why did the mods delete all his threads and posts?

No idea, maybe that's not the mods, perhaps they were told to do so or the admins have taken care of this.

Jesus
05-13-2008, 07:05 AM
And they do it without any comment. I don't think he did something wrong. He heard a promo and told the people how he thinks about the songs. So why did the mods delete all his threads and posts?

Probably the admins and not the mods (cause they are kind enough to give a reason).

Pretty fucking stupid though, all that thread did was make people more excited about the album. I seriously hope they aren't gonna ban all posts or threads (until the japanese release day) talking about the songs once the album leaks. Besides being stupid, it would give the mods way too much work too ;).

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2008, 07:18 AM
And they do it without any comment. I don't think he did something wrong. He heard a promo and told the people how he thinks about the songs. So why did the mods delete all his threads and posts?

Wasn't me.


No idea, maybe that's not the mods, perhaps they were told to do so or the admins have taken care of this.

Could have been. I just woke up and ta-da. I feel like whether or not it makes sense to anyone individually is really besides the point; this is the band's album, their first new album in several years. Can't we just let them unfold it the way they want to and not get ahead of ourselves? We know it's coming out. I'm still shocked that Tijs and I have to delete posts asking for leaks STILL! As though it was okay to use the bands' own website to spread around a leak that they don't want!

Please respect the band's wishes.

Indii
05-13-2008, 09:36 AM
I'm sorry. I've just thought of the mods in the first place. I didn't want to blame you when you did nothing. But obviously I did, so excuse me. If someone else (management, whoever,..) deleted the posts, they could still have written a statement, like Little_Miss has done now (see the sticky).
It's not that don't respect such a decision, but I think a little communication could clear things up for everybody.

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2008, 09:38 AM
...it's why I've posted a clarification about it now. This happened overnight while I was asleep.

skoko
05-13-2008, 11:32 AM
and what did we learn:

donīt slepp little miss 1565 ;-)

Komaschwarz
05-13-2008, 11:41 AM
I'ma be all over the leak like a fat man at an all you can eat buffet.

That being said, I'll buy the album. I usually buy three: one for myself, one for a good friend, and one I usually hide somewhere; like in a library or bookstore.

Sometimes I just randomly mail it to someone I don't know, just for kicks.

maplejet
05-13-2008, 12:25 PM
Getting the leak first since I need more music, then I'll go buy it!

Jesus
05-13-2008, 12:30 PM
Not only will I download the leak, I'll even listen to it. Multiple times even.

bd007h
05-13-2008, 12:34 PM
I doubt the band would be too upset with the album leaking. They've been very supportive of free music in the past and were going to release Conspiracy of One for Free Download on the official site but the record company wouldn't let them

YODAvid
05-13-2008, 12:39 PM
I'ma be all over the leak like a fat man at an all you can eat buffet.

That being said, I'll buy the album. I usually buy three: one for myself, one for a good friend, and one I usually hide somewhere; like in a library or bookstore.

Sometimes I just randomly mail it to someone I don't know, just for kicks.


LOL that shit made me laugh^^ "for kicks" hahaha

Dirty Magic
05-13-2008, 03:15 PM
I will definitely download it. And then buy it the hour it is released. That being said I'm also pretty sure that it will leak by the end of this week

Marc_Nitschke
05-13-2008, 04:22 PM
where did you guys take it from: "i think it' gonna leak by the end of the week..."??
honestly?

bd007h
05-13-2008, 04:49 PM
where did you guys take it from: "i think it' gonna leak by the end of the week..."??
honestly?

Well, since promo copies have been handed out It's only a matter of time before someone leaks it.

RODNEYMULLEN
05-13-2008, 05:55 PM
I can't wait for the leak. I'm so fucking exited. That little miss 1565 thread is bullshit, cause obviously a leak isn't gonna stop any of us from buying it. Whatever i don't need this site for leaks, it'll obviously come out in torrent form.

Llamas
05-13-2008, 06:07 PM
Or the people that got promos are those who don't leak things, or they were very specifically instructed not to leak it and so they won't because of what happened to powerH and stuff. Some people are honest.


I can't wait for the leak. I'm so fucking exited. That little miss 1565 thread is bullshit, cause obviously a leak isn't gonna stop any of us from buying it. Whatever i don't need this site for leaks, it'll obviously come out in torrent form.

God, stop it. Seriously. Re-read the thread 1565 made. It doesn't say "don't post leaks because the band wants people to buy the album". I'm sure most people are aware that the people here who would download a leak would also buy the album. The point is that the band gets to choose when the public hears the album... they get to pick the quality it's heard it, release the artwork and songs how they want to... it's their fucking music. If it leaks, do whatever you're gonna do. But stop bitching about the band not wanting leaks posted on their own BBS.

offspringjon
05-13-2008, 06:29 PM
I would probably download the leak, purely because I'm not patient enough to wait. But I'd definitely buy it on day of release.

Camilamazed
05-13-2008, 07:12 PM
That's funny. People used to call me crazy when I (back then) was the only one not inclined to download the songs. Now everybody is going to torture themselves untill June 17th.

wow.

Count Orlok
05-14-2008, 03:48 AM
I would probably download the leak, purely because I'm not patient enough to wait. But I'd definitely buy it on day of release.

I would react the same.Iīm too excited not to download it,but Iīm buying it anyway.

Nitroadict
05-14-2008, 05:00 AM
For Splinter, I did, & of course for Conspiracy of One, I think most of us did (Napster, lolz).

However, ever since I listened to Hammerhead, I've got the distinct feeling this album will be worth holding out for when I buy it & pop in that cd for the first time.

I've been on a good streak so far this year holding out for good albums (BR's New maps of Hell, NIN's Ghosts, Gnarl's Barkley's Odd Couple; Mindless Self Indulgence's "If" looks promising... ), and for avoiding terrible albums (the latest from Anti-Flag, Pennywise, The B-52's, to name a few), so I think I'll sit back and relax :D.

Little_Miss_1565
05-15-2008, 02:37 PM
A moderator said:


Lol the disc companies are obviously the ones that got the moderator to write that. They just want to serve their multimillion dollar interests. Be a true punk, a true offspring fan, and download the leak. Don't fall in society's mold and follow their rules; these rules are made not to serve the people but to serve the few people at the top.

I'm so downloading the leak.

Hi Jim,

I have no connection to the label, nor do I have any of their "multimillion dollar interests." I'm here because of the band, and that is where my allegiance is.

Thanks for making this community a more positive place to be, not to mention making me feel so much better about the job I do here purely out of how much I like this band.

The rules here aren't made by "society," they're made by people who want this to not be a shitty place to hang out.

PS -- Punk's not dead, it just deserves to die.

jacknife737
05-15-2008, 02:40 PM
Lol the disc companies are obviously the ones that got the moderator to write that. They just want to serve their multimillion dollar interests. Be


uh....... thanks for the laugh though.

Superdope
05-15-2008, 02:42 PM
PS Punk's not dead, it just deserves to die.

I think the phrase lol is being used carelessly these days, but this is one of the few times were it actually describes my reaction.

I lol'd

Little_Miss_1565
05-15-2008, 02:50 PM
The good days were when offspring were a punk band with strong lyrics like in Ignition and Smash, I think a lot of people will agree. I don't like their movement away from that and into commercialism. I maybe offended you but it isn't a reason to say punk should die because offspring is a band with punk roots, and if you were a real fan you wouldn't insult offspring just to get back at me, like you just did.

How much of a punk are you really if you can't recognized a Dead Kennedys lyric?!

RAFRAG is a return to balls-out rock form for the band. You're going to try and call them out for commercialism ten years after "Pretty Fly" was on TRL?!

I give up.

Little_Miss_1565
05-15-2008, 02:56 PM
Their movement away started after smash or ixnay and I said nothing otherwise. In fact I was describing smash and ignition as their good albums leaving it implicitly stated that after that they started their move towards commercialism. I think you're just looking for loopholes in what I said to get back at me, and are acting quite immaturely.

As though it was mature to try and pin my actions on the label?

I think you're being really unfair to the band.

EMehl6
05-15-2008, 05:58 PM
Lol the disc companies are obviously the ones that got the moderator to write that. They just want to serve their multimillion dollar interests. Be a true punk, a true offspring fan, and download the leak. Don't fall in society's mold and follow their rules; these rules are made not to serve the people but to serve the few people at the top.

Lyke, OMG, U R totally lyke tru punx!!11111 Anarchy 4 lyfe! Fuck teh systum!

I am also reminded of a certain Anti-Flag song. It goes like this:

You say that punk to you is what's in your mind
Not what you wear
But you know you're so full of shit!
You scoff at how the cops treat you
But they're no worse than dicks like you!
I just can't understand what you're thinking

Punk, punk, punk
Punk by the book

Please, do as all a favor and shut the fuck up. That will be all.

EMehl6
05-15-2008, 06:50 PM
Good job for finding a song that expresses your opinion. I can quote at least 1000 songs that express my opinion, offspring alone some of those too. Here's one of them:

When you won't go along
Some will feel like you can't find your way
Heaven knows
Heaven knows I've seen it all before
Now don't get me wrong
I've seen many a life gone astray
When someone goes
All your bows won't make it any better so let it go

Shut up and take it like a man
You need us to get a life
For your own good we'll take you by the hand
'Cause you need a little more

Maybe no one will say it
Maybe no one's aware it goes on
All I know
All I know it's like going off the deep end
Could you make a decision?
Could you think for yourself and go on?
Everyone knows
Everyone knows you've got to fit into the mainstream so save your woes

Close your eyes
Look away now
Make believe while you can
So you'd best go along
Don't let on if you can't find your way
Many more
Many more do it for you
Because heaven knows
Heaven knows it's like playing with fire
Your life's a throw

So, what shall we do? There will be an infinite number of lyrics supporting both sides of this debate. In fact, we can find lyrics about any opinion possible. Even things that are evidently wrong. Does that prove anything? No.



Do I even have to defend myself on that? You're just using sarcasm to say the exact opposite from me with no reasoning as to why my opinion isn't valid. Sarcasm is an easy way to make anything seem "silly".

Lyrics of any opinion can be found, for example your rather typical opinion of "live the american dream, obey society's rules, retire and die". Sarcasm is a juvenile way to make fun of things. Ending your post with the word "fuck" to make yourself appear more menacing (or w/e) tops it. Good job.

"That will be all."

You just don't get it, do you?

Count Orlok
05-16-2008, 07:40 AM
@ All people who think they know theyīre punks:
I donīt think that there are any "laws" of what is punk and what isnīt.But if you want so static definitions,here you go:
@"Sarcasm is an easy way to make anything seem "silly".":
The Sex Pistols (wow,that were punks back then...) used sarcasm very often to attack someone.So you, as a self defined punk,should like sarcasm,to stay "true".

PS:Could you all please stop the debate on whatīs punk and what is not...This is so fucking old .

Komaschwarz
05-16-2008, 03:29 PM
Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore cos you spike your hair
When a jock still lives inside your head

;)

Count Orlok
05-16-2008, 03:46 PM
I'm not trying to obey punk's rules, it's just that a large portion of my own opinions happen to be reflected through theirs. There's a distinction there.

Then itīs fine.I didnīt have planned to offend you personal.I only wanted to say that people who shout "iīm a punk,i donīt obey any rules..." ,but act like "i canīt make a song with more than 3 chords,thats un-punkish" are a bit ridiculous.

brothadave79
05-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor. The punchline is always the same: "HA! I said the opposite of what I meant!"

Chainsaw
05-16-2008, 06:50 PM
yes, i will download it.

Paki7491
05-16-2008, 08:50 PM
I'd download it, but no matter the quality of the rip I'd still buy the album.

offspring_freak_3
05-16-2008, 09:16 PM
hell yeah! of course i'll download if theres any leaked song, but it still wouldnt stop me from buying the album

RODNEYMULLEN
05-17-2008, 09:07 AM
No leak yet?

Indii
05-17-2008, 09:13 AM
No leak yet?

I know, it's literally hurting by now, some kind of physical pain. But I'm really sorry: no leak yet.

Steph
05-17-2008, 09:35 AM
First I thought I will not download. But now that I saw all those songs it's tempting me so bad:rolleyes:I'll try to stop myself from doing this.
Of course I'm buying the album when it comes out!!

Dann
05-17-2008, 10:01 AM
I'll only download the b-sides of the singles..
Because you can't find singles here easily..

By the way I hope this time they'll do differents songs for the b-sides.

YODAvid
05-17-2008, 11:54 AM
well after this day of BOREDOM and checking forum and leak-sites like all the time i am leaving the house now to get shitfaced with a few buddies of mine.

tomorrow after waking up when my head is still spinning i will download the album........... hopefully.

Angelo
05-17-2008, 05:48 PM
I'm actually quite surprised it hasn't leaked yet. Given the fact that there are a couple of promo copies floating around, you'd think someone would have said "fuck it" and uploaded the songs to a torrent site by now. I suppose those of us who want to download it (before buying it, of course ;)) will have to wait a little longer.

It's unbelievable how good the first four songs are! I can't wait...

Conspiracyof1000
05-17-2008, 05:55 PM
I would not download a leak partly because dial-up is a bitch to download on and I can actually wait until June 17 for the actual thing.

Angelo
05-17-2008, 06:00 PM
I would not download a leak partly because dial-up is a bitch to download on and I can actually wait until June 17 for the actual thing.

I admire your patience (and discipline). As I've stated numerous times, I do not want to wait. As soon as the album is leaked (and I find out about it) I'm downloading it and listening to it with my dad. I'm 28 and my dad's 56 ... And HE's looking forward to the album as well! Partly for me, partly because he knows they write some really good songs. He liked Gotta Get Away the first time he heard it back in '94. Gone Away is probably his favourite Offspring track, but he likes a bunch of others as well (Spare Me the Details, The Kids Aren't Alright, Come Out & Play, etc.) :D Needless to say, my dad's a bad-ass!

Conspiracyof1000
05-17-2008, 06:18 PM
My dad's excited, too. He got into them after Self Esteem. Thanks to him I basically have a guarantee to go to an Offspring concert once they come to Arizona since he wants to go, too. :)
I want the album as much as anyone else, but as I said, downloading a leak would take until the album actually came out. ;)

TeddyBear_Army
05-17-2008, 09:06 PM
I admire your patience (and discipline). As I've stated numerous times, I do not want to wait. As soon as the album is leaked (and I find out about it) I'm downloading it and listening to it with my dad. I'm 28 and my dad's 56 ... And HE's looking forward to the album as well! Partly for me, partly because he knows they write some really good songs. He liked Gotta Get Away the first time he heard it back in '94. Gone Away is probably his favourite Offspring track, but he likes a bunch of others as well (Spare Me the Details, The Kids Aren't Alright, Come Out & Play, etc.) :D Needless to say, my dad's a bad-ass!

your dad fucking kicks ass!! Heīs into offspring AND heīs a canadian!! Canada rules... I SOOO wish I lived there!

so_drastic
05-17-2008, 10:23 PM
I'm not going to download a leak. I probably would, except I'm in Australia and we get it on June 14, so it's only a couple of days wait. ...and I'm going on a trip on the 11th and getting back on the 13th, so there's not much point, really.

God, I'm excited though. The songs that we've heard so far are awesome!

music89
05-18-2008, 12:27 AM
im gonna download and then buy it the day it comes out, sounds like its gonna be an amazing album, better than their last. My dad loves them too, he took me to my first offspring concert back in 1999, when i was only 9 years old. It was my first concert ever, a day i will never forget

IdleOffspring
05-18-2008, 04:55 AM
I don't get the people who are waiting for the leak and even are upset by it.

I won't download it, even its very hard to wait. The feeling you get when you buy the cd when you havend heard it is priceless.

O well, everybody have is own opinion, but I want to hear all the songs first when I put the cd in my computer en have the booklet in my hand, except official released singles, like hammerhead of corse.

randman21
05-18-2008, 05:31 AM
Judging by how quickly I downloaded "You're Gonna Go Far, Kid" (I didn't think twice about it) I have to change my vote and say that I would definitely download a leak.

Trek
05-18-2008, 09:47 AM
I could not resist, but 200% i would also buy the cd.

EMehl6
05-18-2008, 11:14 AM
If this doesn't leak soon, I just might die from excitement lol. It's killing me.

On another note, would anyone happen to have a Direct File Acces of Download Professional Account?

darea
05-19-2008, 07:11 AM
Im getting annoyed with all these leaks, not that its not exciting and that I dont wanna listen, cause its tempting to. I'd rather there weren't any leaks, or that I didnt hear about them... but then I'd just have to not go on the bbs...

But I feel like its taking away all the excitement of listening to the album for the first time after buying it. I'll buy the album for sure. But it was so awesome when I bought Americana after only having heard pretty fly, and be able to listen to all the songs and see all the artwork in one go, with all the excitement that's with it. Seeing it or hearing some of it before it comes out, takes a lot of the excitement away :(:(:(:(

aceizace
05-21-2008, 11:08 AM
I have already preordered the CD (from Japan) but I'd download it if it's leaked so I can get it quicker.

ThunderPX
05-21-2008, 11:12 AM
Leak, fucker, leak!

YODAvid
05-21-2008, 11:24 AM
i am actually downloading a torrent right now... dont know its a fake or not, looks alright to me.

BUT no complete downloads yet so i have like 0 to 0.5 kbs hehe... hope its done tomorrow.

music89
05-21-2008, 11:29 AM
i am actually downloading a torrent right now... dont know its a fake or not, looks alright to me.

BUT no complete downloads yet so i have like 0 to 0.5 kbs hehe... hope its done tomorrow.
me too im at 51.1% and its been going for 21 hours already, its so annoying but looks good so i cant wait

Jesus
05-21-2008, 11:33 AM
me too im at 51.1% and its been going for 21 hours already, its so annoying but looks good so i cant wait

If it's a zipfile of around 50 mb it's a virus.

tylercosgrove1989
05-21-2008, 11:37 AM
what torrent site do you use?

YODAvid
05-21-2008, 11:47 AM
If it's a zipfile of around 50 mb it's a virus.

how do you know? cause it is.

i am at 50% too....

@tyler send you the link as a pm. i dont get banned for this do i?






FUCK WHY CANT SOME SHITPISSER LEAK THE DAMN THING ITS DRIVING ME NUTS! we have the half truism and trust in you thingy so what the hell.

GunForHire
05-21-2008, 12:17 PM
That one you're using is definitely dodgy. The uploader has upped similar upcoming albums, all are now unseeded.

And yes, the wait for the album is killing me too. I've already preordered it off HMV, but I want it now :(

YODAvid
05-21-2008, 12:22 PM
That one you're using is definitely dodgy. The uploader has upped similar upcoming albums, all are now unseeded.


hmm intersting... i will continue downloading though.....

oh and by the way, to all who are DLing it right now. you can turn of the computer over night or whatever. in the morning it will download all you "missed" at like 200 kbs... then its gonna go slow again.

ThunderPX
05-21-2008, 12:35 PM
I don't know if it's a virus but it's definitely fake and a scam. When you open it the files are passworded and you supposedly have to go to some site to get it, but it's not there- all that happens is some leeching asshole gets money because suckers click on the link. Even if you crack the password, they're not real MP3s.

ppronni
05-21-2008, 12:38 PM
Don't expect the album to be leaked until june, I've seen similar cases and albums tend to leak between 15 to 7 days before the official release in Japan (where they're usually released first). I think now it's too soon, but I'm just guessing...

YODAvid
05-21-2008, 12:46 PM
a little quote from one of my favorite german bands, the Donots:

you fail to try
i try and fail, but that's alright

of course i am not saying you failed to try, just saying i try and will probably fail.

music89
05-21-2008, 02:15 PM
hmm the user that uploaded this one has uploaded a bunch of other torrents and pretty much all of them have been no good, so things arent looking good for this torrent

Paki7491
05-21-2008, 02:25 PM
Yeah i think i'm getting the same leak, if anyone nkow wether this is really fake or not let me know, cause i'm gettign it at like 4 BYTES per second. And this is taking forever.

mrXniick
05-21-2008, 02:33 PM
god i hope this is a real leak...

the wait is killing me.

dff_punk
05-21-2008, 02:39 PM
57.8 %.. and I have been d/l-ing it for 24 hours... anyway imho it is really a fake.

MaxxPower
05-21-2008, 02:49 PM
Yea, id probly download it, but I already pre-ordered it so Ill buy it when it comes out anyway.

jacknife737
05-21-2008, 02:50 PM
It's fake, and you're all wasting your time. This thing isn't going to leak until June, and probably not even until the Japanese release.

6661.
05-21-2008, 02:51 PM
Yeah don't even risk downloading it. Waste of time. The first place it will appear is a well known site.

YODAvid
05-21-2008, 03:07 PM
^ is what people, who are jealous of people that are actually dling it and have it in advance, say

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d97/yodavid/Aufzeichnen-1.jpg

lets hope this is the shit

mrXniick
05-21-2008, 03:16 PM
does anyone know why it was downloading REALLY fast at first.. but now went down to like 2 kb/s

jacknife737
05-21-2008, 03:16 PM
lets hope this is the shit

It won't be, because it's fake.

Paki7491
05-21-2008, 03:19 PM
It won't be, because it's fake.

If it is fake fine we wasted our time, but if it's real some of you guys would follow right behind us and download it once we verify it's authenticity.

So you say it's fake but,
How are you so sure?

jacknife737
05-21-2008, 03:28 PM
So you say it's fake but,How are you so sure?

Because i've been using torrent sites long enough to know that most zip files of upcoming releases are just spam (the 50mb isn't helping either). Not to mention how protective the label has been concerning leaks. I'm sure it will leak at some point (but not before June); like i said, i won't expect this to be on torrents until just prior to June 11th (the Japanese release). And i won't be downloading anything, since i'm waiting for the 17th physical release.

Paki7491
05-21-2008, 03:35 PM
Because i've been using torrent sites long enough to know that most zip files of upcoming releases are just spam (the 50mb isn't helping either). Not to mention how protective the label has been concerning leaks. I'm sure it will leak at some point (but not before June); like i said, i won't expect this to be on torrents until just prior to June 11th (the Japanese release). And i won't be downloading anything, since i'm waiting for the 17th physical release.

Ok i see your point, and I'll admit i don't really expect this to be a real leak, but just because it's unlikely dosen't mean there isn't a chance this could be the real thing, if i didn't beleive that i wouldn't be downloading it. nobody will really know for sure until we get it and open it.

dff_punk
05-21-2008, 03:36 PM
We are all just so impatient, curious and excited we are downloading even a fake leak, just to make us feel good:p I need some pills.

Flash12354
05-21-2008, 03:49 PM
Its a fake... I know I haven't posted much, so I might not seem so credible. But if you look at who posted the torrent, you'll see that all of his torrents say Retail (New Album), and they are all .zip files... I downloaded another of his torrents which happened to be Weezer's new Red Album, and it just wanted me to go to one of those password verification sites thats pretty much a virus scam... Sooo... I was pretty pissed... and not to shoot down your hopes, but I'm about 99% sure that this is just a scam... If you need proof check out the other torrents that the guy uploaded.

4eh
05-21-2008, 04:23 PM
downloading one via eMule))) let's see)) anyway, i will buy a legal copy as soon as it will apper in Russia!

UPD: A FAKE!

GunForHire
05-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Whoever is posting these fakes needs a good beating. Playing with our hopes :(

6661.
05-21-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeah, especially since we all know a real one is already online on mininova.org

I'm not even gonna bother. Not only have I checked today but I know how you are. :rolleyes:

sneedo
05-21-2008, 06:13 PM
Yeah, especially since we all know a real one is already online on mininova.org

or not.......................

dff_punk
05-21-2008, 06:14 PM
Damn you Mininova, and damn you Jim! :o

6661.
05-21-2008, 06:21 PM
Welcome to Intermission

Daa. Daa Daa. Da da da da da da daa.

EMehl6
05-21-2008, 06:25 PM
Welcome to Intermission

Daa. Daa Daa. Da da da da da da daa.

Lol what does that have to do with anything?

ThunderPX
05-22-2008, 08:20 AM
Yeah, especially since we all know a real one is already online on mininova.org

Except not.