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Jojan
06-11-2008, 11:43 AM
Who's Ivan?

Let's Hear It For Rock Bottom:

Wasting all my days.
What would Ivan say?
Wasting all my days.
What would Ivan say?

Unnatural Disaster
06-11-2008, 11:44 AM
I would guess that Ivan is like names from their others songs...Jennifer, Phoebe, Kristy, Janie, Mark, Jay, Brandon.....etc.. just a name...

Dead Kennedy
06-11-2008, 11:56 AM
maybe it was kristy's boyfriend

Jojan
06-11-2008, 12:08 PM
I think it some russian philosofer or so. Not just another name in a song.

medi01
06-11-2008, 12:10 PM
yeh i think theres more of a meaning to 'ivan'...especially when you hear the chuckle afterwards

IamSam
06-11-2008, 02:18 PM
I think Ivan is referring to the former Soviet Union. If you look at that song it's basically condemning America for being apathetic to the world around us while during the Cold War you had a competition between the USSR and the USA for domination. We went through this domination by helping other countries (or taking them over).

hughesyboy
06-12-2008, 06:43 AM
Ivan Ichidik perhaps?

motaboyrs
06-12-2008, 07:08 AM
I would guess that Ivan is like names from their others songs...Jennifer, Phoebe, Kristy, Janie, Mark, Jay, Brandon.....etc.. just a name...

I think Kristy is the nickname for his ex-wife Kristine Luna, who, i think, died in a car accident and was his inspiration to write Gone Away...

But, Ivan, no idea...

RonWelty
06-12-2008, 07:15 AM
I think Kristy is the nickname for his ex-wife Kristine Luna, who, i think, died in a car accident and was his inspiration to write Gone Away...

But, Ivan, no idea...

ahhhhnnnnn...no, Kristine LUNA is his, unless they got separated, current and only wife

Little_Miss_1565
06-12-2008, 07:41 AM
I think Kristy is the nickname for his ex-wife Kristine Luna, who, i think, died in a car accident and was his inspiration to write Gone Away...

Kristine Luna is very much alive, having appeared as one of the flight attendants in the "I Choose" video, next to Theo from the Lunachicks. <3 <3 <3

As to the other half of your statement, no one has ever come out and said that "Gone Away" was about that -- no one from the band has ever said anything about where the song came from. This rumor persists because it makes for a good story. And that's what it is, a story. Quit speculatin' about the man's personal life.

In addition, Dexter told a magazine recently that "Kristy" is about a girl he once knew who was sexually abused.

medi01
06-12-2008, 09:27 AM
Kristine Luna is very much alive, having appeared as one of the flight attendants in the "I Choose" video, next to Theo from the Lunachicks. <3 <3 <3

As to the other half of your statement, no one has ever come out and said that "Gone Away" was about that -- no one from the band has ever said anything about where the song came from. This rumor persists because it makes for a good story. And that's what it is, a story. Quit speculatin' about the man's personal life.

In addition, Dexter told a magazine recently that "Kristy" is about a girl he once knew who was sexually abused.

I'm sure i read an interview where dexter said it was about something personal and he didn't want to say anymore...

findout5
06-12-2008, 11:01 AM
Ivan is a russian mobster who is currently GETTING IT ON with other inmates in prison lol

Gustavo
06-12-2008, 12:25 PM
Interesting :confused: I was thinking of who Ivan is this morning.

ShutUpYouFuckingMime
06-12-2008, 12:36 PM
I think they're talking about this guy:

http://timeline.rovang.org/bigpics/ivan_ooze.jpg

Rafa88offspring
06-12-2008, 01:09 PM
Maybe it's the same Ivan that was in the Clash's Guns of Brixton :)

StefanDBH
06-12-2008, 01:19 PM
My brother is Ivan:cool:

code_blue
06-12-2008, 03:52 PM
I think Kristy is the nickname for his ex-wife Kristine Luna, who, i think, died in a car accident and was his inspiration to write Gone Away....

are you going to tell me that kristine was the lead singer of the lunachicks, too?

and that noodles is lars from rancid's brother?

some things never change.. :rolleyes:

Drafan
06-12-2008, 04:06 PM
Ivan canīt speak. Wheelchairdog.
www.handicappedpets.com/gallery/ivan11/index.htm

jacknife737
06-12-2008, 04:15 PM
I'm sure i read an interview where dexter said it was about something personal and he didn't want to say anymore...

It’s personal, in that he knew the girl who was being molested.

Edit: And to the orignal point of the thread, i'm quite sure that Ivan = Former USSR.

StayInTheHouseCarl
06-12-2008, 05:41 PM
I think they're talking about this guy:

http://timeline.rovang.org/bigpics/ivan_ooze.jpg


is it said that i knew who this guy was?
im a little sad. lol

iPunk247
06-12-2008, 09:06 PM
yea. i knew teh names were just randoms. but who knows though. *yawns*

Jojan
06-13-2008, 12:43 AM
I will ask Dexter when I get the chance. Maybe Noodles or Greg knows too. But Dexter must know. Yeah, that's what I'll do. hehu.

Hypodermic_89
06-13-2008, 03:03 AM
I'm Ivan. I buried Dexter.

brothadave79
06-22-2008, 10:43 AM
For those that didn't hear the interview, Ivan is a slacker friend of theirs who basically does nothing all day. In the part of the song where Dexter sings "Wasting all my days," he couldn't think of a line to come after so they were like "Well, what would Ivan say?" and it just happened to rhyme. Cute story.

Rehynn
06-22-2008, 11:01 AM
For those that didn't hear the interview, Ivan is a slacker friend of theirs who basically does nothing all day. In the part of the song where Dexter sings "Wasting all my days," he couldn't think of a line to come after so they were like "Well, what would Ivan say?" and it just happened to rhyme. Cute story.

What interview?

brothadave79
06-22-2008, 11:04 AM
It's in one of these under the audio tab:

http://www.edge.ca/OffspringSneakPeek.aspx

NotTheOne_NL
06-22-2008, 11:23 AM
For those that didn't hear the interview, Ivan is a slacker friend of theirs who basically does nothing all day. In the part of the song where Dexter sings "Wasting all my days," he couldn't think of a line to come after so they were like "Well, what would Ivan say?" and it just happened to rhyme. Cute story.

You can Dexter hear laughing in the song after "what would Ivan say?" :D

medi01
06-22-2008, 11:25 AM
You can Dexter hear laughing in the song after "what would Ivan say?" :D

...might be noodles laughing ;)

Rehynn
06-22-2008, 11:39 AM
It's in one of these under the audio tab:

http://www.edge.ca/OffspringSneakPeek.aspx

Thanks, dude!

bd007h
06-22-2008, 09:30 PM
is it said that i knew who this guy was?
im a little sad. lol

Is it sad that I still have the VHS of that movie sitting on a shelf in my house?

Rafa88offspring
06-22-2008, 11:46 PM
I still have the VHS too! haha a friend of mine just asked me a few days ago, if I just happened to have that movie on dvd hahaha so random.

clocks_R_slow
06-23-2008, 07:13 AM
I think they're talking about this guy:

http://timeline.rovang.org/bigpics/ivan_ooze.jpg

ROFLMFAO!!!!! isnt that the guy from the power rangers? LMAO

Autonomist
06-23-2008, 07:39 AM
Is it sad that I still have the VHS of that movie sitting on a shelf in my house?

If that's sad I don't wanna think what that makes me for buying the DVD a couple of years ago.

Rafa88offspring
06-23-2008, 10:14 AM
If that's sad I don't wanna think what that makes me for buying the DVD a couple of years ago.

that makes you awesome.

GoneAway15
06-23-2008, 12:09 PM
my brother said he's heard them talk about their friend ivan before as well.

RageAndLov
06-23-2008, 02:32 PM
It's in one of these under the audio tab:

http://www.edge.ca/OffspringSneakPeek.aspx

never seen this before, thanks :D

Camilamazed
11-21-2008, 08:36 AM
Bumping it 'cause I need the interview.

Does anyone have it, it won't work for me.:(

Camilamazed
11-21-2008, 01:43 PM
No one??? Please???

Lavrova Maria
06-17-2010, 05:56 AM
oh well, you know, Ivan is a russian name. And in Russia we have an idiom "to drag along Van`ka" (Van`ka is pet name from Ivan) and this idiom means "to do nothing, to idle, mess around"

Free?
06-17-2010, 06:03 PM
oh well, you know, Ivan is a russian name. And in Russia we have an idiom "to drag along Van`ka" (Van`ka is pet name from Ivan) and this idiom means "to do nothing, to idle, mess around"

It's a cool observation. What is pretty funny - it all actually makes kinda too much sense for a coincidence.

Artem
07-17-2010, 08:42 AM
Чё за Иван?

ivexSerbia
07-17-2010, 09:28 AM
lol my name is Ivan x)

nancyoff
07-18-2010, 11:00 PM
Чё за Иван?

yeah! definitely thatīs what I thought
I completely agree with you!!! :)

Jojan
07-19-2010, 06:32 AM
yeah! definitely thatīs what I thought
I completely agree with you!!! :)

We already have the answer. No need to ask it again.

msshapes0898@gmail.com
03-25-2011, 11:03 AM
Ivan is one of his good friends. :)