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Jojan
06-22-2008, 04:05 PM
Original article in swedish:

http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=22584&a=1179720&lid=puff_1179727&lpos=rubrik
Original article translated into english with Google's translation tool:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsvt.se%2Fsvt%2Fjsp%2FCros slink.jsp%3Fd%3D22584%26a%3D1179720%26lid%3Dpuff_1 179727%26lpos%3Drubrik&hl=sv&ie=UTF8&sl=sv&tl=en

Little_Miss_1565
06-22-2008, 04:21 PM
I could have told you that myself. But what shocked me about that article is that many people were asked point blank and they admitted it.

wheelchairman
06-22-2008, 06:15 PM
Uh that doesn't make them a racist. Having a racial prejudice is common, I would find it hard to believe if it wasn't universal. Many issues come into play with regards to this (media, society, upbringing, individual inclinations etc, I've read that it might even be a genetic thing, suspicion of those who are not from your clan/outside provides a possible higher degree of security or something. Although I personally doubt that it's genetic in that sense.)

It's how you check and balance your views with reality, and how you act on them, that would make you a racist. At least that's my opinion. When a person says they don't see color I would personally think that they are kidding themselves, or at least wish they didn't see color.

IamSam
06-22-2008, 07:06 PM
I'll be honest, I have a prejudice. But that doesn't mean that I'm going to treat some people different than everyone else. I give them the benefit of the doubt and on great, wonderful occasions my prejudice is proven wrong.

Sunny
06-23-2008, 06:07 AM
you mean, one in three ADMITS to harboring racial prejudice...

sipptaroowsky
06-23-2008, 08:11 AM
were only hwite people questioned, becouse when I get on a bike and go to Kalnovec, the gipsys are serious about killing me, Roms, or as I like to call them Romulans, when I go through there, the first crime I experience is the smell, then there are 6 to 20 year old pricks with bricks, pottery, mud balls, they live next to a garbage deposit so you can imagine what kind of accessories they throw at me, however I have a few Romulan friends and they are great, so judging them by a few rotten apples is idiotic.

I personally blame the parents and lack of education.

sorry about my illiteracy

F@ BANKZ
06-24-2008, 01:07 AM
I think it's fair to say that almost everybody harbors racial prejudice to some extent- it's natural. What is important is that these feelings are acknowledged as being farcical 99% of the time.

Mota Boy
06-24-2008, 08:40 AM
Why do people act shocked that we aren't living in a magical post-racial utopia? It's bare psychological fact that people associate race with character traits, and media and limited personal experiences often reinforce these (the "black friend" comment is so mocked because often we psychologically tend to believe that such a person is the exception to the rule, and we carry around with us the "knowledge" that because one person can be an exception to a broader rule that governs our understanding of race, we can't actually be racist). I'm sure I could be classified as a racist ten different ways to Sunday by overly-sensitive individuals, and while I believe on a fundamental level that all races are more or less equal, there's no way in hell I'd submit myself to a publicly-performed psychological test of unconscious racial preference. Personally, I think we should get away from treating such natural prejudice as so bad that we don't talk about it, to the point that when one in three people privately admit to it, we impinge the entire nation "*Gasp*, one in three Americans are RACIST!"

Such hexing (the voodooesque psychological tic of saying all of one thing is bad [example - children and cooties, refusing to eat something because a fly touched part of it]), and such equating a prejudice, however slight, to full-blown racism is to lump in a whole host of issues under a single name. It's silly and stupid and it's time we as a species fucking dealt with it instead of sweeping it under the rug because we're all too ashamed to own up to the fact that if we walked into a room with two groups of people self-selectedly segregated by race (or class, or gender, or age, or subculture), we'd head over to the group that most looked like us.

Hell, I'm going to go so far (perhaps an overstretch, but not by much) as to say that anyone professing outrage at this is either not being true to others or, more likely, to themselves (logic: racial prejudice = racism; racism = something bad people think; I'm not a bad person, I can't be racist). We've progressed into an era where, for our generation, class and culture (though in far too many places in the country, class and culture fall so closely along racial lines that it becomes difficult to disentangle one from the other) play a more important part than race, but it's there, and it's important to acknowledge it and face it head on, because we're not going to move past it if we all keep up the public pretension that good people can't harbor some semblance - however slight - of racial prejudice.

Rilex
06-24-2008, 08:57 AM
I'm not a racist... I also wish that Neanderthals are still alive...

Palma
06-26-2008, 09:55 AM
you mean, one in three ADMITS to harboring racial prejudice...

correct. it is natural to have a racial prejudice. i watched an episode of body hits on bbc 3 a year or two ago in which people on the street were given two black and white photographs. one of a white male and one of a black male. and these people were asked which they thought was more trustworthy. the large majority of black people said black and the large majority of white people said white.

the only time in which it is a problem is when you treat someone differently because of it.

IamSam
06-26-2008, 03:05 PM
Did you know that 49.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot?

F@ BANKZ
06-26-2008, 05:24 PM
"Statistics can prove anything fourthteen percent of people know that."

ad8
06-27-2008, 06:04 AM
Did you know that only ~5% of Jojans post are serious? (Mostly about the Offspring and Sex)

JohnnyNemesis
06-27-2008, 08:43 AM
One in three?

There's plenty more.

Bodom J
07-20-2008, 02:56 PM
it's not natural to show prejudice. that's a cop out that racist people say make themselves feel better. If someone shows you a picture of a black and a white and more people pick the white, it's not natural. It was racists being stupid. The correct answer would be if asked: i cannot choose either to trust because it's just a picture of two people that I do not know.

wheelchairman
07-20-2008, 03:09 PM
Actually suspicion of people you don't know or recognize in us appears to be genetic.

What's natural shouldn't concern us as much. What helped us to survive genetically speaking is no longer relevant. It's overcoming base instincts and using your mind rationally which is what counts.

zsk
07-26-2008, 01:46 AM
hmm...
it was strange for me as i heard the story of "The Pledge of Alliegence"
in shool
If we would do something similar in germany,you would call us nazis again:D

wheelchairman
07-26-2008, 04:54 AM
That's because when *we* do the pledge of allegiance, 6 million jews don't typically die.

Desperado
07-26-2008, 10:57 AM
Having a racial prejudice is common, I would find it hard to believe if it wasn't universal.

No, it's not. Noticing little quirks about a race doesn't mean you're prejudice against them. If I notice that many Indian kids are good students, doesn't make me prejudice against Indians. Prejudice means you have a bad opinion or idea about a race, and that is totally separate from little revelations like those.

Paint_It_Black
07-28-2008, 04:57 AM
I was going to post seriously in this thread, but then I remembered that as long as Mota Boy continues to exist I'll never have to bother.

Thanks Mota Boy, you've saved me a shitload of time over the years. Though now I'm pretty much out of things to do.

Thank god for internet porn.

Paint_It_Black
07-28-2008, 05:09 AM
Prejudice means you have a bad opinion or idea about a race

Actually no, not necessarily. That's only one definition.


Noticing little quirks about a race doesn't mean you're prejudice against them.

Actually, yes it does. Depending on definition.


If I notice that many Indian kids are good students, doesn't make me prejudice against Indians.

Actually, it does if you then meet an Indian kid and expect him to be a good student.

Here's some definitions of the word for you:

1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.

Don't assume that everyone else is using the same definition you are. That path leads to the most useless of debates.

At work recently a diabetic black man collapsed and had to be taken away in an ambulance. Later I heard a co-worker remark that "at least it was only a spook". I was honestly shocked. Not that someone would think that, but that they would be stupid enough to say it in public. I believe I responded with "holy shit, I can't believe you just said that". His face went pale, and he said "oh shit, was he black?" You see, the black man in question also happened to be a federal agent, and my co-worker was using a more antiquated definition of "spook". He could have lost his job because of a fucking definition.

zsk
07-28-2008, 08:17 AM
That's because when *we* do the pledge of allegiance, 6 million jews don't typically die.

but i think it's stupid^^

Enjoi
07-28-2008, 08:44 AM
i wonder how many people in the world get horny every second....:confused:

.::Splinter::.
07-28-2008, 01:45 PM
ik i dont get horny every second.>..>..>..>.

Jojan
07-28-2008, 03:41 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Metric_system.png

Theese countries have on two things in common. 1. They don't use the metric system. 2. They are morons because of that. Three nations against the world.

KHWHD
07-28-2008, 07:49 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Metric_system.png

Theese countries have on two things in common. 1. They don't use the metric system. 2. They are morons because of that. Three nations against the world.

That was harsh.

6661.
07-28-2008, 09:14 PM
Sieg Heil!!!

:rolleyes:

IamSam
07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
Theese countries have on two things in common. 1. They don't use the metric system. 2. They are morons because of that. Three nations against the world.

http://www.map-of-sweden.co.uk/images/physical-map-sweden.gif

Tell me what these three Nordic countries have in common?

1. They are Nordic
2. And no one cares

The shadow
07-28-2008, 10:48 PM
Well, actually, following the Metric Conversion Act of 1975, the U.S. has already started to switch to the metric system. The american scientific community uses almost exclusively this system, most federal agencies are required by the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act of 1988 to use metric units and many industries manufacture their products in metric units as well.

Besides, the english units are as common worldwide as the metric units. I'm studying engineering and I can assure you that, for example, steel products are manufactured in "metric" countries almost entirely in english units with not too many people complaining. And it's not difficult to convert units.

zsk
07-30-2008, 07:46 AM
Sieg Heil!!!

:rolleyes:

You are just stupid!
Remember how many people died becuase of this!!!!

I hope you're acount will be removed by the admins!

zsk
07-30-2008, 07:47 AM
http://www.map-of-sweden.co.uk/images/physical-map-sweden.gif

Tell me what these three Nordic countries have in common?

1. They are Nordic
2. And no one cares

the best metal bands come from there!
they are european countries!->europe rocks!

6661.
07-30-2008, 03:56 PM
You are just stupid!
Remember how many people died becuase of this!!!!

I hope you're acount will be removed by the admins!

I put the :rolleyes: after it for a reason

Gustavo
08-07-2008, 12:12 PM
I wasn't able to read the article because when I clicked the link, it said there was an error. But, as far as I could read the repplies, I can definetely say that there are racist people out there, not only in the US (Even though I'm not an American and I have never been there), but in the whole world.
Some people are raised to believe that a belief, a skin color or whatever a person likes to do may be wrong and must be destroyed.
There are lots of things out there that I don't agree with, but, I don't think it's an excuse for you lynch someone.