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sipptaroowsky
06-26-2008, 04:22 AM
How do we achieve world peace?
Even more relevant, do we need world peace?
Imagine if we had no more things to fight about, then we would no longer be we.
What world order would be best for the world, a Republic, Democracy, Communism, Socialism, Monarchy, Kingdom, Nationalism, Militarism or something else?
I know some of these mean the same things as the other ones.
What I want to know is, what arrangement do you live it, how do you look on it, and what would you change?

A funny thought, imagine we get rid of all the nuclear weapons, all the guns and bows and arrows, and then we discover a hostile threat outside Earth and we have no means of defending our selves.

ad8
06-26-2008, 04:40 AM
Tyranny:D
It's pretty hard to say which system would work out best, but the best idea is the socialism, imo.

Pepsaj
06-26-2008, 04:43 AM
Tyranny:D
It's pretty hard to say which system would work out best, but the best idea is the socialism, imo.
Maybe IDEA was good. But I know how socialism was working, here in Poland before 1989. I wouldn't say that it was good :P

ad8
06-26-2008, 04:56 AM
Maybe IDEA was good. But I know how socialism was working, here in Poland before 1989. I wouldn't say that it was good :P

Yeah, that's the problem:(

Capricorn4
06-26-2008, 05:04 AM
Maybe IDEA was good. But I know how socialism was working, here in Poland before 1989. I wouldn't say that it was good :P

We were in the same situation as Poland in 1989,we adopted a new constitution but I wouldn't say it is much better(in my case).Everything has it's bad side as its good.

Before 89 you couldn't travel abroad without permission,you could feel like you locked up in your country,eastern Europe was isolated from western parts.
Nowadays you have more freedom,but it's hard to find a job even with proper education.Like come on!I've applied a job half a year ago in a cinema as a ticket clerk beside school and when I read the requirements I couldn't belive my eyes.The requirements was you need a language exam and many others.
Is this progress that you need a degree even if you're a cleaning lady?

I think there's no appropriate way to rule the world until the country have an appropriate leader,wich sadly we don't have.

sipptaroowsky
06-26-2008, 06:12 AM
Maybe IDEA was good. But I know how socialism was working, here in Poland before 1989. I wouldn't say that it was good :P

Exactly. I remember a documentary on the CCCP fall down. Most of the Russians said that the Communism is a perfect society order for perfect people, however nobody is perfect. Therefore giving imperfect people a lot of power equals great for a minority of people, and sucky sucky for the majority.


We were in the same situation as Poland in 1989,we adopted a new constitution but I wouldn't say it is much better(in my case).Everything has it's bad side as its good.

Before 89 you couldn't travel abroad without permission,you could feel like you locked up in your country,eastern Europe was isolated from western parts.
Nowadays you have more freedom,but it's hard to find a job even with proper education.Like come on!I've applied a job half a year ago in a cinema as a ticket clerk beside school and when I read the requirements I couldn't belive my eyes.The requirements was you need a language exam and many others.
Is this progress that you need a degree even if you're a cleaning lady?

I think there's no appropriate way to rule the world until the country have an appropriate leader,wich sadly we don't have.

I know what you mean. A similar thing here, people have great education but they can't get employment. Unfortunately we found a way to fix it, either connections, bribe or some other thing. However beautiful women need absolutely no education, they just need to look good and put it out, how's that for sex equality.

Tehran25
07-13-2008, 04:57 AM
i think my picture says it all guys
communism may not work, but we can all pretend can't we?

Anka
07-13-2008, 08:51 AM
and where the hell is anarchy?

I have no idea which is the best way to rule world, there probably isnt. every system has some things which could be abused and as long as there is even a single person who tries to make profit from it, there is always way to do it- so others will suffer or be oppressed... I know Im not very optimistic about people, but unfortunately it is true...
so no matter which political system we have, we need to change as people and then we could have even the anarchy and everybody will be happy...

phillip Nielson
07-14-2008, 09:24 AM
socalisim is the best but in order for it to work we need to kill off all the stupid people and all the lazy sons of ****es

Bipolar Bear
07-14-2008, 11:14 PM
and where the hell is anarchy?

I have no idea which is the best way to rule world, there probably isnt. every system has some things which could be abused and as long as there is even a single person who tries to make profit from it, there is always way to do it- so others will suffer or be oppressed... I know Im not very optimistic about people, but unfortunately it is true...
so no matter which political system we have, we need to change as people and then we could have even the anarchy and everybody will be happy...

I voted other for anarchy. The biggest problem with it is the fact that we're so overpopulated on Earth. However, in my mind anarchy appears like the most natural and beautiful dream that could ever exist, and I think that it's the best idea of all. Fucking impossible right now, but still a beautiful dream. Our mental capabilities have exceeded the point where we can just be happy and live, it's a shame. Along with the great things we've gotten from our intelligence, we've also grown ambitious and greedy. I don't see how anarchy could work with 7 billion humans on the planet.

IamSam
07-14-2008, 11:20 PM
i think my picture says it all guys
communism may not work, but we can all pretend can't we?

Just pretending wouldn't work. I mean, the United States is pretending it has a democracy, but we all know that isn't true.

adombomb222
07-14-2008, 11:20 PM
I say kill anyone who doesn’t follow laws. Bug every phone in the world to make sure their not scheming. I vote in Big Brother with Tyranny - to kill all those stupid motherfuckers who wouldn't listen to me. Mass graves and piles of bodies on fire, only way to achieve world peace, I'm telling you.

EDIT:
The reason Anarchy isn't up there is because it's a dream... So quite crying you fucking trendy assholes. Besides HERE (http://offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32409) you can talk all you want about that subject.

Thomas
07-14-2008, 11:50 PM
It would be impossible to "rule" the world under one system. There are too many different cultures and beliefs. Democracy and Republicanism may work in some places extremely well, but fall apart in others. The same goes for ANY system of government (except for the ones that don't work at all). The population would have to be incredibly mixed and un-diversified in order for a single system to work.

IamSam
07-14-2008, 11:55 PM
It would be impossible to "rule" the world under one system. There are too many different cultures and beliefs. \

But according to the Bible it's going to happen!

adombomb222
07-14-2008, 11:59 PM
But according to the Bible it's going to happen!

Yep they call it a crusade... however in this case the Holy Land is the entire world. Genocide! Genocide! Genocide! Oooooooohhhhhh I can't wait!!!!! I'm so glad I'm a confirmed Christen. Roman Catholic, the real Christen church.

Which just brought up a light bulb, do Roman Catholics still hate Protestants?

SaiKYoU
07-15-2008, 08:10 AM
hypnosis. period.

Bipolar Bear
07-15-2008, 10:07 AM
EDIT:
The reason Anarchy isn't up there is because it's a dream... So quite crying you fucking trendy assholes. Besides HERE (http://offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32409) you can talk all you want about that subject.

Trendy assholes for wanting anarchy. Wow lol.

Drafan
07-15-2008, 11:35 AM
Who wants to rule the world is fool. The middle age is over.

adombomb222
07-15-2008, 02:19 PM
Trendy assholes for wanting anarchy. Wow lol.

If you don't think wanting anarchy isn't trendy, then you're retarded.

Lupin
07-15-2008, 02:22 PM
Mass.Genocide_______Minor.Apology_____New.world.or deR

adombomb222
07-15-2008, 02:25 PM
Fuck apologies!!
Fuck them, they're dead!
New world order begins when I put automatic weapons and machetes in the hands of the willing!

Lupin
07-15-2008, 02:45 PM
Fuck apologies!!
Fuck them, they're dead!
New world order begins when I put automatic weapons and machetes in the hands of the willing!

i think maybe, if we "came together" we could rule the world.

Llamas
07-15-2008, 03:31 PM
I'm shocked that nobody has brought up the fact yet that it's impossible to determine which one would work best for the WORLD. Every country is far too different. Libertarianism could work GREAT in one country, but destroy another one. There isn't any answer for the world.

Also, the world can't be RULED by anarchy... its citizens could live in anarchy, but it can't be ruled in it...

Mota Boy
07-15-2008, 03:44 PM
Me. I'm the best way to rule the world. Discussion over.

Thomas
07-15-2008, 03:45 PM
I'm shocked that nobody has brought up the fact yet that it's impossible to determine which one would work best for the WORLD.

* cough *


It would be impossible to "rule" the world under one system.

Bipolar Bear
07-15-2008, 11:34 PM
If you don't think wanting anarchy isn't trendy, then you're retarded.

I was being sarcastic you dumbass. You're the one that said wanting anarchy was trendy, in this post:


I say kill anyone who doesn’t follow laws. Bug every phone in the world to make sure their not scheming. I vote in Big Brother with Tyranny - to kill all those stupid motherfuckers who wouldn't listen to me. Mass graves and piles of bodies on fire, only way to achieve world peace, I'm telling you.

EDIT:
The reason Anarchy isn't up there is because it's a dream... So quite crying you fucking trendy assholes. Besides HERE (http://offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32409) you can talk all you want about that subject.

After which I said "Trendy assholes for wanting anarchy. Wow lol."

StefanDBH
07-18-2008, 08:32 PM
here in serbia we have socialism during 90-00 and then we was in big shit in that time we have a many wars with everybody...I think that road to "better life" is democracy...

MaF
07-21-2008, 01:11 PM
My vote is for anarchy

Heared today phrase from one autor:
"1st i gave up in democrats, than in democracy. I don't know any good democrat. And democracy stimulates all bad things in u. Look at Latvia and Estonia..."

zsk
07-24-2008, 03:26 PM
we need somebody like him!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_II%2C_Holy_Roman_Emperor

or him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_I_%28Barbarossa%29

Jakebert
07-24-2008, 06:07 PM
The best way to rule the world is by making people go insane by forcing them to watch crappy movies.

Enjoi
07-24-2008, 09:14 PM
The easiest way would to have anarchy

adombomb222
07-25-2008, 12:41 AM
Easiest? Are you fucking kidding your self?

Sunny
07-25-2008, 03:13 AM
i'm willing to bet most people who said "anarchy" are either in their teens or uneducated morons with severely limited understanding of the concept.

also, as llamas pointed out, the concept of one universal system working for the entire planet is pretty ridiculous, considering the cultural, religious and economic diversity of the world.

Rag Doll
07-25-2008, 08:57 AM
Me. I'm the best way to rule the world. Discussion over.

Hard alcohol for all!


Anyways. As has been said before, one form of government could never work for the entire world. The US thinks they have the best form of government, so they decided to spread it to Iraq. Look at how well THAT is turning out. The two cultures are entirely different. Countries need the government that suits them.

wheelchairman
07-25-2008, 01:55 PM
Well I'm not sure that I entirely agree with Sunny or Rag Doll.

While of course not every country can have the *exact* same type of government. Due to historical, economic and "cultural" reasons. (Cultural in quotations because cultures are undefinable and in a constant state of flux. Democracy was not part of any culture for many European nations until 150 years ago (some earlier), universal suffrage wasn't part of the "culture" until 100 years ago, and the concept of equality is really only just picking up in recent generations.)

However that doesn't mean countries can't institutionalize democracy on some level and to varying degrees (or for that matter socialism, but I would say that's a bit more difficult to discuss to the ambiguous definitions of socialism.)

Take the Iraqi government. Sure it was created through an invasion, but 14 million Iraqis voted, and the Iraqi Communist Party is in the government cabinet. This was clearly a choice made by the Iraqis and not the American invasion forces. :p

Now I'm no neo-liberal who believes that democracy will be the winning banner of government. It's no surprise at all that Russia is deviating from it's new democracy. When democracy is connected to a failed economy, political instability and a very harsh form of capitalism that was instituted. (Actually there was always talk of a Marshall Plan for when communism was overthrown in the East, but instead of a billion dollars we sent them economic consultants who really screwed them over.) No surprise that your typical liberal democracy looks downright awful. I don't know who said it but someone once said "It took capitalism in Russia to make communism look succesful."

I don't believe in a historical inevitability of democracy but I wouldn't flat out deny that it could spread further. However what we've noticed since the early '90's is that after the initial success of the cold war in favor of democracy, history had not actually ended. I read an interview with an observer of international relations who positioned the world in 4 poles now. Western liberal democracies, China/Russia instutionalism, the Islamic block (not a form of government but a religious grouping that tries to affect the international system), and then some 4th group I can't remember. Plus a host of non-aligned nations, like India.

jacknife737
07-25-2008, 02:43 PM
I read an interview with an observer of international relations who positioned the world in 4 poles now. Western liberal democracies, China/Russia instutionalism, the Islamic block (not a form of government but a religious grouping that tries to affect the international system), and then some 4th group I can't remember. Plus a host of non-aligned nations, like India.

You wouldn't happen to have a link or source for that interview?

wheelchairman
07-25-2008, 04:24 PM
You wouldn't happen to have a link or source for that interview?

It was in Danish, but if I can find the paper I will tell you the guy's name. I'm pretty sure he was on the daily show talking about slightly similar topics.

wheelchairman
07-25-2008, 04:27 PM
It was Mark Leonard. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Leonard) And the 4th pole was Europe. So in my previous post make a delineation in the Western Democracies between Europe and the US.

Cock Joke
07-25-2008, 05:02 PM
You didn't add in dictatorship!!!

wheelchairman
07-25-2008, 07:12 PM
I don't somehow think this is the most scientific of polls, Zag.

jacknife737
07-26-2008, 01:18 PM
It was Mark Leonard. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Leonard) And the 4th pole was Europe. So in my previous post make a delineation in the Western Democracies between Europe and the US.

Thanks, i'll have to check out some of his work. The separation between Western Europe and the US reminds me a bit of Thérèse Delpech's work, but i'll have to give his stuff a good look before i can make any comparisons.

Pepsaj
07-29-2008, 03:06 AM
Before 89 you couldn't travel abroad without permission,you could feel like you locked up in your country,eastern Europe was isolated from western parts.
Nowadays you have more freedom,but it's hard to find a job even with proper education.Like come on!I've applied a job half a year ago in a cinema as a ticket clerk beside school and when I read the requirements I couldn't belive my eyes.The requirements was you need a language exam and many others.
Right. but when you finnally find a job and you earn some money you can spend them on something! Before 89 we had empty shelves! Everybody had job but so what? You could spend only as much as your country decided. Sick as hell.

GBH2
07-29-2008, 10:40 PM
You didn't add in dictatorship!!!

YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT

go look up "tyranny"

adombomb222
07-30-2008, 12:32 AM
True, different cultures will make it hard to rule the world under on system, therefore, as proposed before, kill anyone who choses not to follow such a system. Hippies want world peace, however they don't understand the cost of freedom... Such a sad paradox.:(

wheelchairman
07-30-2008, 06:16 AM
True, different cultures will make it hard to rule the world under on system, therefore, as proposed before, kill anyone who choses not to follow such a system. Hippies want world peace, however they don't understand the cost of freedom... Such a sad paradox.:(

You're going to need to explain how those two things are related...

adombomb222
07-30-2008, 11:55 PM
They really aren't. I just felt like pointing it out. I don't like hippies...