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XtokiogirlX
08-15-2008, 08:07 PM
Does anyone ever think about doing it?

Me? I probably never will but I think bout it

What do you think?

KHWHD
08-15-2008, 08:09 PM
Nope, never have. You should probably seek some sort of counselling.

XtokiogirlX
08-15-2008, 08:12 PM
No!
I will never do it, just a thought and stuff

Lodat225
08-15-2008, 08:15 PM
Lol, these past few days have been shit and yes, I've thought about it. I'm way too much of a pussy to actually do it but yeah.

Life's complicated and I can name a handful of kids who wouldn't mind me killing myself, most of them here.

XtokiogirlX
08-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Why would you be scared to do it cause like
If you ODed or jumped of a building I don't think it would hurt to much

KHWHD
08-15-2008, 08:18 PM
Are you serious or not? Your post said you think about it all the time and want to do it... then your reply said no, that you would never do it.

If you are contemplating suicide, then yes... I would seek counselling immediately.

Lodat225
08-15-2008, 08:24 PM
Lol, I'm too much of a pussy because I don't WANT to kill myself. Still doesn't change the fact that I think about it here and there.

But yeah, if you're contemplating suicide ... all I'm going to say is "Ob-la-di, ob-la-da! Life goes on! BRAA! LALA, life goes on."

XtokiogirlX
08-15-2008, 08:24 PM
I don't know if I am or not,
I don't think so anyway

XtokiogirlX
08-15-2008, 08:27 PM
yeah lol
In reality I will probably never do it

KHWHD
08-15-2008, 08:49 PM
yeah lol
In reality I will probably never do it

Is that why you joined the boards, to talk about your "maybe, maybe not" thoughts on suicide. Maybe you're just craving some kind of attention.

KHWHD
08-15-2008, 08:52 PM
Does anyone ever think about doing it?

Me? I probably never will but I think bout it

What do you think?

I love how you changed your original post. Yep, you're some kind of attention whore.

lost_nvrfound
08-15-2008, 09:41 PM
My sister had a friend commit suicide a little over a year ago. THIS IS NO GODDAMN JOKE! One of my bestfriends was suicidal. We think she's finally past it, but it still keeps me up at night.

Homer
08-15-2008, 10:05 PM
I was in class when someone told me that a kid jumped in front of a train because his girlfriend broke up with him. Apparently he had texted everyone on his cell phone saying goodbye right before it he did it.

I laughed and everyone thought I was insensitive. The end.

KHWHD
08-15-2008, 10:11 PM
I was in class when someone told me that a kid jumped in front of a train because his girlfriend broke up with him. Apparently he had texted everyone on his cell phone saying goodbye right before it he did it.

I laughed and everyone thought I was insensitive. The end.

Sorry, but I laughed at that. :D Over a girlfriend? Wowzers, that's nuts.

lost_nvrfound
08-15-2008, 10:24 PM
Why is that funny?

Homer
08-15-2008, 10:31 PM
Why isn't it?

KHWHD
08-15-2008, 10:32 PM
Why is that funny?

Cause he's insensitive. But come on, over someone dumping them? Shit, my kids' Daddy left 2 weeks after my baby girl Aaliyah was born.. you didn't see me jumping in front of a train. Life goes on....

lost_nvrfound
08-15-2008, 10:56 PM
Cause he's insensitive. But come on, over someone dumping them? Shit, my kids' Daddy left 2 weeks after my baby girl Aaliyah was born.. you didn't see me jumping in front of a train. Life goes on....

you should've seen my friend when her and the guy she lost her virginity to were on the outs... not even broken up... just in a fight

Rag Doll
08-15-2008, 10:56 PM
Cause he's insensitive. But come on, over someone dumping them? Shit, my kids' Daddy left 2 weeks after my baby girl Aaliyah was born.. you didn't see me jumping in front of a train. Life goes on....

Whoever it was, was probably young and mentally/emotionally unstable as it is.

Anyway. I used to think about it when I was younger, up until the beginning of college, I'd say.

Homer
08-15-2008, 11:03 PM
Whoever it was, was probably young and mentally/emotionally unstable as it is.

Apparently it wasn't his first girlfriend. So... yeah, overreaction to the max.

But still, you're all missing the point. He used a CELL PHONE to TEXT his last words to loved ones. Hilarious.

KHWHD
08-15-2008, 11:06 PM
Apparently it wasn't his first girlfriend. So... yeah, overreaction to the max.

But still, you're all missing the point. He used a CELL PHONE to TEXT his last words to loved ones. Hilarious.

Now that's classy.

lost_nvrfound
08-16-2008, 12:40 AM
Apparently it wasn't his first girlfriend. So... yeah, overreaction to the max.

But still, you're all missing the point. He used a CELL PHONE to TEXT his last words to loved ones. Hilarious.

hi-fucking-larious...
:mad:

JohnnyNemesis
08-16-2008, 12:50 AM
I can name a handful of kids who wouldn't mind me killing myself, most of them here.

I don't think anyone here actually wants you dead, and if you DID die, I know I for one would be bummed for a brief period of time (sorry, just being honest). I know that's not what you said, but I felt the need to clarify.

I think that there might be a "DOWN WIT MODZ" style celebration on the BBS if I kicked the bucket. And if I found out about the celebration at some point in the afterlife, I'd laugh my non-existent ass off.

Anyway, yeah, I'd thought about suicide in the past, but not really about me doing it. Just, like, it existing as an act. I've also thought about how shit would be if I were dead, but never actually wanted to off myself.

Ryder1234
08-16-2008, 01:18 AM
I don't think I ever could. Of course, there's always those times when life's at a real low, and then that voice pops into your head, like "there's always suicide...". But then I just think "Stop right there, what am I thinking?".
I've also thought that if I decide "this is what I'm gonna do, nothing's gonna stop me", I've always thought that when the moment comes... I couldn't do it (however I would plan to). I'd say "It's not worth it" or something.

hshduppsnt
08-16-2008, 01:51 AM
to be perfectly honest with you, I'm lucky enough never to have been depressed enough or this or that,

and as for just thinking about it as an act in and of itself, the truth is death scares the crap out of me and as a result I try not to think about it as much as possible,

which would also be reasoning to keep me from ever being in a state where I'd reasonably consider it.

not an easy subject, death... :-/...

WebDudette
08-16-2008, 02:35 AM
I've thought about it and how if it came to that everything would be insignificant to me (because I'm dead, duh). But I've never actually considered doing it.

Sometimes though, when I'm driving I look at a median or another car and say 'I could make this drive a lot more interesting'. Though in most cases those things would probably just injure me badly.

I've been pretty significantly sad about things but then I think 'What ever its just a ticket' or 'It's only school, I'll get over it'.

Recently though I've been wrapped up in some crazy emotional stuff, not necessarily bad just extremely confusing and I'm a little to frightened to try and be less confused by it.

Rambling much?

F@ BANKZ
08-16-2008, 04:14 AM
Apparently it wasn't his first girlfriend. So... yeah, overreaction to the max.

But still, you're all missing the point. He used a CELL PHONE to TEXT his last words to loved ones. Hilarious.
I'm sorry to say that I lol'd. It's a severe shame though; if I commited suicide the last thing I would want would be people loling at me over BBSs for it.

Oh, and although suicide crosses my mind as much as (I imagine) it crosses everybody's, I always have a multitude of reasons to reject the motion. One is that there are billions of people worse off than I am in many ways, that I have everything I need for convalescense and that suicide would hurt everybody that I care about. It sound harsh but I have considered it as quite cowardly, although I concede that I have no fair reason to.

Iamstupid
08-16-2008, 06:28 AM
The idea of suicide has run through my head sometimes.

I mean, this a good way to end a life that don't please you, you decide how, where etc. You're the only master of your life and if it doesn't please you, you end it. I think it is better than living a long -but shitty- life as, anyway, nobody really cares about you and you don't really care about others. Dead ones are being buried and they're quickly forgotten, unless the person is a really close parent. Then you go to the graveyard often at the beginning, then only a few times, then once a year etc...it's like a child who leaves the house and go living far away from its parents, in another town : he sees his parents at first for easter, birthdays etc., and then he just sends a letter at christmas to wish them a happy new year. Therefore, suicide is not that dreadful.

Just my thoughts on it.

wheelchairman
08-16-2008, 08:12 AM
Everyone in the world has thought of suicide and considered the possibility of it at some point. This doesn't mean everyone is suicidal or even remotely close. Or was ever remotely close.

I'm going to take the liberty of just assuming your somewhere in your teens Xtokiogirlx. Aside from the fact that you have *the* definition of a typical teenage girl's screenname (not a huge issue, all the established women on this bbs had names like that or similar as well) but suicide and simply strange behaviors and moods and actions happen when you're a teenage cause of the constant hormone flux. I personally didn't believe it was true when I was a teenager and you probably won't believe me either, but when it comes down to it, you look back and realize how little reason was involved in so many actions when you were that age.

Which brings me to another point, there's nothing wrong with you for thinking about suicide.

As for killing myself, the thought only comes from temptation. Like pulling the emergency exit on an airplane. It's not that I would do it, I just get a strong temptation to, and there are many people like me. I also get a strong temptation to push people over when they are riding their bikes. But that's mostly because it would be *sooooo* easy.

T-6005
08-16-2008, 08:15 AM
As for killing myself, the thought only comes from temptation. Like pulling the emergency exit on an airplane. It's not that I would do it, I just get a strong temptation to, and there are many people like me. I also get a strong temptation to push people over when they are riding their bikes. But that's mostly because it would be *sooooo* easy.
I get the one where I'm waiting for the subway and think about jumping in front of the train.

It's almost morbid that I find it a fun little thought to have.

F@ BANKZ
08-16-2008, 08:47 AM
The idea of suicide has run through my head sometimes.

I mean, this a good way to end a life that don't please you, you decide how, where etc. You're the only master of your life and if it doesn't please you, you end it. I think it is better than living a long -but shitty- life as, anyway, nobody really cares about you and you don't really care about others. Dead ones are being buried and they're quickly forgotten, unless the person is a really close parent. Then you go to the graveyard often at the beginning, then only a few times, then once a year etc...it's like a child who leaves the house and go living far away from its parents, in another town : he sees his parents at first for easter, birthdays etc., and then he just sends a letter at christmas to wish them a happy new year. Therefore, suicide is not that dreadful.

Just my thoughts on it.

People learn to live with friends/relatives' deaths, but I can't believe that this is the case. When my great-grandfather died The Church told my great-grandmother that she would be reunited in heaven. She was so devout to The Church, convinced and so horrified that she commited suicide to see her husband again, consequently my Grandfather was left parentless, had a very, very hard childhood and rejected religion all together. To this day my family is not remotely religious as a consequence (though I am an exception). Suicide also cuts deeper than natural death, I believe, because the people close to you believe that they have failed you.

Sunny
08-16-2008, 10:19 AM
well, i dunno about you, but listening to Tokio Hotel always makes me feel suicidal. but when i stop, the feeling goes away. miraculously.

hshduppsnt
08-16-2008, 11:19 AM
As for killing myself, the thought only comes from temptation. Like pulling the emergency exit on an airplane. It's not that I would do it, I just get a strong temptation to, and there are many people like me. I also get a strong temptation to push people over when they are riding their bikes. But that's mostly because it would be *sooooo* easy.

ok yeah I've definitely thought about the airplane thing and then wondered about what it would be like to get sucked out of the plane and just start falling...

then I usually get a little bit of a panic attack haha... and go back to whatever I was thinking, while hoping those who chose the exit row are really only there for the legroom...

as for the bike thing I've actually had random people push me over and run away so i'm going to just have to say "hey!" to that one... cuz it hurts :(

nieh
08-16-2008, 11:27 AM
I don't buy it when people claim to never have though about suicide at some point in their lives. Not necessarily to the point where they're seriously considering it, but to say you've never had the thought cross your mind at some point? That just seems like a load of bull.

Iamstupid
08-16-2008, 11:30 AM
People learn to live with friends/relatives' deaths, but I can't believe that this is the case. When my great-grandfather died The Church told my great-grandmother that she would be reunited in heaven. She was so devout to The Church, convinced and so horrified that she commited suicide to see her husband again, consequently my Grandfather was left parentless, had a very, very hard childhood and rejected religion all together. To this day my family is not remotely religious as a consequence (though I am an exception). Suicide also cuts deeper than natural death, I believe, because the people close to you believe that they have failed you.


I'm sorry to what happened to your great-grandmother and your grandfather was left alone. I guess suicide is like everything : there's good and bad consequences, as let's say internet which brought many informations but pOrn, and all on the otherside.

But didn't your grandmother know the church is actually against suicide ? They think you got a free ticket to hell if you do such a thing.

About TH, I'm torn apart. I never know if I have to laugh or to weep when I'm unlucky enough to be forced into listening to that (at friend's house e.g). I guess both are natural reaction to this music.

hshduppsnt
08-16-2008, 11:32 AM
^^ perhaps some people (myself included in this probably) when hear "think about suicide" assume "seriously think about suicide" as in not so much what would happen this or that versus like actually wanting to kill ones self. So that's why originally I said I hadn't because death scares the crap out of me.

As for just the random wonderings of what happens and what it would be like after... sure I agree with you on that as a human of a certain age at some point we all sorta wonder about death... i would assume...

KHWHD
08-16-2008, 11:33 AM
I don't buy it when people claim to never have though about suicide at some point in their lives. Not necessarily to the point where they're seriously considering it, but to say you've never had the thought cross your mind at some point? That just seems like a load of bull.

I respectfully disagree. Some people have had a great life/childhood/teenage years with nothing to complain about whatsoever. Me, being one of them. I think it all just depends on events that happen in your life and how well you can cope with things. Shit, I had all 4 of my grandparents die in the same year, plus my dog.. my Dad got fired (worked there for 27 years,)... this all happened when I was 18... then back about 4 months ago I was on stress leave from my job of 2 1/2 years because BOTH (yes, both.. and no I'm not kidding either) of my parents had a heart attack, my sister lost her job while on Maternity leave, Dad got fired cause he was off for a week cause Mom was in the hospital with the heart attack.. when I went back to work, I was fired. I was told I was off of work for too long and was needed at work. This all happened in a span of 1 month. Not to mention the fact my kids' Dad left when my baby was 2 weeks old. He went back to his ex-wife that cheated on him when they were married... AND got knocked up with this other guys kid. Did I ever think about suicide during any of this? No, not once.

disclaimer_07
08-16-2008, 01:03 PM
Sorry, but I laughed at that. :D Over a girlfriend? Wowzers, that's nuts.

Quite surprisingly, girlfriends can be a vast source of suicidal thoughts and behaviors. So no, I wouldn't laugh at that at all. Of course, it may seem incredibly hilarious from a "realistic" point of view but turns out to be fucking serious when it happens to you. People have different personalities, not everyone is tough, there are also fragile and sensitive ones that can be hurt very easily. And sorry for sounding harsh, no offense meant to anyone.

KHWHD
08-16-2008, 01:10 PM
Quite surprisingly, girlfriends can be a vast source of suicidal thoughts and behaviors. So no, I wouldn't laugh at that at all. Of course, it may seem incredibly hilarious from a "realistic" point of view but turns out to be fucking serious when it happens to you. People have different personalities, not everyone is tough, there are also fragile and sensitive ones that can be hurt very easily. And sorry for sounding harsh, no offense meant to anyone.

I, personally am not offended. Like I said in my reply, it all depends on how tough and strong you are. Some are stronger than others. We're all "built" differently.

disclaimer_07
08-16-2008, 01:22 PM
I, personally am not offended. Like I said in my reply, it all depends on how tough and strong you are. Some are stronger than others. We're all "built" differently.

I'm glad that you're not offended, as it wasn't the point of my message. I was just expressing my opinion. I may only add that I believe many people have thought about committing suicide, and thinking about it doesn't mean they are ever going to do it.

Lodat225
08-16-2008, 01:36 PM
I don't understand why people jump to conclusions and say that because you're talking about suicide, you're an attention whore. Ugh. (Talking about the first two pages.)

Anyways, suicide's a big no-no. That is all.

KHWHD
08-16-2008, 02:02 PM
I don't understand why people jump to conclusions and say that because you're talking about suicide, you're an attention whore. Ugh. (Talking about the first two pages.)

Anyways, suicide's a big no-no. That is all.

Well apparently you didn't read the original post that she made... then editted it a half hour after she originally made the post.

Jojan
08-16-2008, 02:06 PM
Suicide is selfish if it's not agreed upon all you know.


Va ska man ta livet av sig för när man ändå inte får höra snacket efteråt

-- Magnus Uggla

"What should I kill themselves because if you do not hear snacket afterwards", translated with Google Translate.

disclaimer_07
08-16-2008, 02:17 PM
Well apparently you didn't read the original post that she made... then editted it a half hour after she originally made the post.

What did the original post say?

KHWHD
08-16-2008, 02:48 PM
What did the original post say?

Look at my second or third reply.

jacknife737
08-16-2008, 03:18 PM
I get the one where I'm waiting for the subway and think about jumping in front of the train.

That (and the plane thing) happens to me too. But it's nothing more then a passing thought.

bighead384
08-16-2008, 04:22 PM
It really wouldn't bother me if I was no longer alive in about 10 years. I just don't really look forward to much these days, whether it be in the near future or far future. One of the main things that keeps me from seriously considering it is the pain I would cause my family. Plus, the horror of actually killing myself. Yikes.

WebDudette
08-16-2008, 04:30 PM
Hah, seeing what I said quoted like that in T-6005's signature really makes it look pathetic. To clarify that no something I've ever considered suicide over, just things that kind of get to me before I decide it isn't all that big of a deal.

shanna_guarana
08-16-2008, 06:19 PM
for the tokiogirl:
are you emo?

Jakebert
08-16-2008, 10:28 PM
Cause suicide is painless.
It brings on many changes.
And I can take or leave it if I please.

Tyler Durden
08-16-2008, 10:40 PM
Suicide is selfish if it's not agreed upon all you know.


Va ska man ta livet av sig för när man ändå inte får höra snacket efteråt

-- Magnus Uggla

"What should I kill themselves because if you do not hear snacket afterwards", translated with Google Translate.

Of course suicide is selfish but being selfish is a good thing. If you're never selfish then you won't get anywhere in life and you won't get anything you want, of course it's sad for your friends and family when you commit suicide but ultimately it's your decision alone and a totally respectable one at that.

ad8
08-17-2008, 02:39 AM
Apparently it wasn't his first girlfriend. So... yeah, overreaction to the max.

But still, you're all missing the point. He used a CELL PHONE to TEXT his last words to loved ones. Hilarious.
I think I'd rather use ICQ or Facebook to tell them...:D (please forgive me for this sarcastic post)


well, i dunno about you, but listening to Tokio Hotel always makes me feel suicidal. but when i stop, the feeling goes away. miraculously.
Same here lol:D

Alright, now the serious part of the post:
I often think about suicide and also thought about commiting suicide. But luckily I think that I'd be a pussy if I actually did it and made nothing out of my life. Still there are so many people that are poorer than I and live their life anyway.

Lupin
08-17-2008, 05:48 AM
Check out the "Raisins" episode of South Park, there is a none to subtle suicide theme to it...Butters is fucking brilliant, and makes a better point about depression and how to come around it than anybody ive ever heard, who gives advice on these things.

wheelchairman
08-17-2008, 07:00 AM
Of course suicide is selfish but being selfish is a good thing. If you're never selfish then you won't get anywhere in life and you won't get anything you want,

Of course the flipside is true too. I don't think anyone except a few religious people advocate being completely altruistic or completely selfish.

Free?
08-17-2008, 07:27 AM
Come on! Not on Offspring forums people! With all respect to freedom of speech I'm asking you stop this intelligent discussion.
Xtokiohogirlx, will your next thread be about anime?

mrconeman
08-17-2008, 07:30 AM
I've thought about suicide insofar as that it's something that exists, I also had to study it for quite a length at school, but I've never considered it as a viable option - fuck. that. shit.

I've also thought about people's reactions to my death a few times, is it an ego thing or something? I wonder if I just up and croaked would the boards ever find out...

Pepparoo
08-17-2008, 07:34 AM
Does anyone ever think about doing it?

Me? I probably never will but I think bout it

What do you think?

If you're gonna do it do it, but you'll look pathetic. Especially due to the fact that people in the west (ie: UK and USA) are so much better off than a lot of people in other countries where there are people who barely have clean drinking water. Why don't those people go kill themselves?

Sunny
08-17-2008, 07:39 AM
with all due respect, if you actually think that your logic might convince a suicidal person to choose to stay alive, then your naivete is just adorable.

the "you'll look bad" and "children in africa have it much worse than you" arguments show such a lack of understanding of the issue that i'm not sure if i should LOL or just shake my head in utter disbelief.

Pepparoo
08-17-2008, 07:52 AM
with all due respect, if you actually think that your logic might convince a suicidal person to choose to stay alive, then your naivete is just adorable.

the "you'll look bad" and "children in africa have it much worse than you" arguments show such a lack of understanding of the issue that i'm not sure if i should LOL or just shake my head in utter disbelief.

... and why would I want a suicidal person to stay alive? End of the day they want to go so let them. They will look pathetic and not just that, their parents will look pathetic too. If they thought of it like that then maybe they'll snap out of it and start getting with the program.

Okay, my statement may show a lack of understanding of the actual issue but what I say is still valid.

Sunny
08-17-2008, 07:57 AM
no, your lack of understanding of the issue actually *does* render your statement invalid. you can tell yourself that it makes sense, and you're free to do that, but to someone who has actually dealt with suicidal ideation, your statement is a big ol' pile of crap. your mere implication that it's as easy as "snapping out of it" and "getting with the program" is offensive to say the very least.

Pepparoo
08-17-2008, 08:17 AM
no, your lack of understanding of the issue actually *does* render your statement invalid. you can tell yourself that it makes sense, and you're free to do that, but to someone who has actually dealt with suicidal ideation, your statement is a big ol' pile of crap. your mere implication that it's as easy as "snapping out of it" and "getting with the program" is offensive to say the very least.

My statement is valid because people who top themselves do look pathetic. Not just that their actions affect other people too. If people thinking about killing themselves realised that they affect other people in their life, not just them they'd have a different outlook on suicide.

End of the day people get depressed and suicidal for a reason. Whatever problems they they've gotta stop being emo, stop moping about and fucking do something with their life. Take up a hobby, get a job, earn some money then maybe they won't feel so bad.

There's a saying 'blessed is the man who is too busy to worry during the day and too sleepy to worry at night'. Very true! I think as well, if people were thankful for the things they have than complain about the things they don't have then there'd be less talk of this suicide and depression.

mrconeman
08-17-2008, 08:25 AM
Stop painting everyone with suicidal tendencies with the one brush, you're making yourself look ridiculously stupid. Among about a million other issues in your posts I'm too lazy to call.

Pepparoo
08-17-2008, 08:33 AM
Stop painting everyone with suicidal tendencies with the one brush, you're making yourself look ridiculously stupid. Among about a million other issues in your posts I'm too lazy to call.

I mean, maybe if someone was abused or something I can understand that cos it fucks you up. I'm not tarring everyone with 1 brush, I'm more referring to the majority of people/attention seekers who think it's cool to be depressed and make a meal of it when really they have no valid issues to feel depressed about.

mrconeman
08-17-2008, 08:37 AM
So in fact you're not talking about suicide or suicidal tendencies in any fashion, and as such all of your input in this thread is invalid.

You're talking about teen angst, and obviously have no idea of the types of people who genuinely want to off themselves, or of anything else regarding the issue.

Oromis
08-17-2008, 08:40 AM
If you're gonna do it do it, but you'll look pathetic. Especially due to the fact that people in the west (ie: UK and USA) are so much better off than a lot of people in other countries where there are people who barely have clean drinking water. Why don't those people go kill themselves?

"People considering suicide are overwhelmed with hopelessness. They feel that things cannot get better, that there is no way out of their difficulties. This is depression in the extreme, and it is not a state of mind that someone is easily talked out of. It will do little good to tell such a person that things really aren't so bad. The person will only take this as further evidence that no one understands his/her suffering"

^thats a direct quote from an old introductory level psychology textbook that im reading in my spare time because its interesting. you're kind of dead wrong.


I mean, maybe if someone was abused or something I can understand that cos it fucks you up. I'm not tarring everyone with 1 brush, I'm more referring to the majority of people/attention seekers who think it's cool to be depressed and make a meal of it when really they have no valid issues to feel depressed about.

"Another erroneous idea is that those who commit suicide are 'life's losers' - people who have failed vocationally and socially. In fact, many people who kill themselves seem to have 'every reason to live' - prestigious jobs, families and so on. Doctors, for example, have a suicide rate several times that of the general population - which is probably related to the stresses of their work"

again from an old psyche textbook, kinda shows that getting a job and gettin with the program isnt really related to the issue of suicide and depression...

F@ BANKZ
08-17-2008, 08:41 AM
with all due respect, if you actually think that your logic might convince a suicidal person to choose to stay alive, then your naivete is just adorable.

the "you'll look bad" and "children in africa have it much worse than you" arguments show such a lack of understanding of the issue that i'm not sure if i should LOL or just shake my head in utter disbelief.

Although I'm inclined to agree, the website linked to BBS of people wanting to leave an "attractive corpse" induces some doubt. Image is everything to some people, and it can be the reason why they want to commit suicide in the first place.

Pepparoo
08-17-2008, 08:47 AM
"People considering suicide are overwhelmed with hopelessness. They feel that things cannot get better, that there is no way out of their difficulties. This is depression in the extreme, and it is not a state of mind that someone is easily talked out of. It will do little good to tell such a person that things really aren't so bad. The person will only take this as further evidence that no one understands his/her suffering"

^thats a direct quote from an old introductory level psychology textbook that im reading in my spare time because its interesting. you're kind of dead wrong.



"Another erroneous idea is that those who commit suicide are 'life's losers' - people who have failed vocationally and socially. In fact, many people who kill themselves seem to have 'every reason to live' - prestigious jobs, families and so on. Doctors, for example, have a suicide rate several times that of the general population - which is probably related to the stresses of their work"

again from an old psyche textbook, kinda shows that getting a job and gettin with the program isnt really related to the issue of suicide and depression...

Oromis, thanks for the input and thanks for rising above the urge to make immature insults (unlike other members on here).

I can appreciate that people from all walks of life are prone to stress and depression, hell... I have an important publisher/typesetting job that pays well and I know full well the stresses it incurs. My grandad was also a typesetter and was fairly high up. He got so stresses that when he came home each day he was physically sick. Nevertheless, he, like myself still got on with the job in hand. There's 2 kinds of people, those who quit to pressure and those that keep taking the hits and still move forward, no matter how bad things get.

Sunny
08-17-2008, 09:01 AM
My statement is valid because people who top themselves do look pathetic. Not just that their actions affect other people too. If people thinking about killing themselves realised that they affect other people in their life, not just them they'd have a different outlook on suicide.

End of the day people get depressed and suicidal for a reason. Whatever problems they they've gotta stop being emo, stop moping about and fucking do something with their life. Take up a hobby, get a job, earn some money then maybe they won't feel so bad.

There's a saying 'blessed is the man who is too busy to worry during the day and too sleepy to worry at night'. Very true! I think as well, if people were thankful for the things they have than complain about the things they don't have then there'd be less talk of this suicide and depression.

i'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because you're new here and you might be very young, but right now you're coming off as a grade A ignorant moron.

are you saying you've just rendered the entire field of clinical psychiatry unnecessary? you've figured out the cure for mental illness! you deserve a goddamn Nobel prize! or perhaps you just haven't the slightest clue.

telling someone suffering from depression to "snap out of it" is equivalent to telling a lupus sufferer "sheesh, why don't you do something about that rash?" honestly, i thought that since we live in the XXI century, the fact that clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance would be common knowledge. you can be rich, successful, attractive, and suffer from clinical depression, even though, in the eyes of those less intellectually capable, you "have no reason to be depressed".

this has nothing to do with being "emo", depression being "trendy", or good ol' fashioned teen angst. if you fail to see the difference, i suggest you at least try to educate yourself, although, to be frank, you seem to be perfectly happy being ignorant.
you're trivializing and dismissing the physical and mental suffering of millions of people, which, in my view, kinda makes you a douchebag of epic proportions.

Pepparoo
08-17-2008, 09:17 AM
i'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt because you're new here and you might be very young, but right now you're coming off as a grade A ignorant moron.

are you saying you've just rendered the entire field of clinical psychiatry unnecessary? you've figured out the cure for mental illness! you deserve a goddamn Nobel prize! or perhaps you just haven't the slightest clue.

telling someone suffering from depression to "snap out of it" is equivalent to telling a lupus sufferer "sheesh, why don't you do something about that rash?" honestly, i thought that since we live in the XXI century, the fact that clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance would be common knowledge. you can be rich, successful, attractive, and suffer from clinical depression, even though, in the eyes of those less intellectually capable, you "have no reason to be depressed".

this has nothing to do with being "emo", depression being "trendy", or good ol' fashioned teen angst. if you fail to see the difference, i suggest you at least try to educate yourself, although, to be frank, you seem to be perfectly happy being ignorant.
you're trivializing and dismissing the physical and mental suffering of millions of people, which, in my view, kinda makes you a douchebag of epic proportions.

.......Sorry

JohnnyNemesis
08-17-2008, 12:36 PM
my statement may show a lack of understanding of the actual issue but what I say is still valid.

This sentence really makes me want to cry.

Jakebert
08-17-2008, 12:47 PM
Or make you want to commit suicide, perhaps?

Camilamazed
08-17-2008, 12:55 PM
*Mouth shut*

People hate me for talking about it.

=|

Pepparoo
08-17-2008, 03:27 PM
*Mouth shut*

People hate me for talking about it.

=|

I think some people are way too sensitive about it on here. Nevertheless I've said my piece on it... lol at Jake Bert!

syyr*boi
08-17-2008, 04:08 PM
If you want to end your life, then end your life in where you live; go move into another continent or country....

something like this was said in the film "gegen die wand". it means: against the wall

Tizzalicious
08-18-2008, 07:57 AM
It's unbelievable how many stupid replies this thread has.

Yes, emo teens who slit their wrists because they think life sucks are stupid. But fuck, emo's are not the only people who commit suicide. Did it ever occur to you that some people might have a a disease (either mental or physical) that makes them feel the way they do, and that it isn't just a a case of "stop whining and cheer up" for most people who end up going through with a suicide?

I think we had this exact same discussion some time ago, and indeed Camila, it's better that you decided to shut up this time.

Sunny
08-18-2008, 07:58 AM
I think some people are way too sensitive about it on here. Nevertheless I've said my piece on it... lol at Jake Bert!

sheesh, these silly people, being all sensitive about life and death issues! priorities, people, priorities!

JohnnyNemesis
08-18-2008, 12:54 PM
I'd rather be sensitive about the fact that other people are sensitive and make a shitload of comments saying people shouldn't be sensitive.