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bighead384
09-01-2008, 11:47 AM
I'm trying to learn how to play some leads and solos on guitar. Can anybody recommend some good ones to start with? I'm not that fast yet, and I'm not trying to memorize a lot, I just want to begin to get my fingers used to those movements.

Little_Miss_1565
09-01-2008, 12:04 PM
The solo from TKAA is pretty straightforward, plus it's a good way to practice bends.

medi01
09-01-2008, 12:04 PM
if ur into blink then try dammit, its simple! first song i ever learnt

as for the offspring try 'dammit i changed again' i find that quite easy, and parts of TKAA, Gone away, Dirty magic, genocide and fix you are quite easy

coke_a_holic
09-01-2008, 12:14 PM
EDIT: this was wrong. Now it's right. Sorry, let me see if anyone called me out on it...
EDIT 2: sweet business, no one bothers to read the stuff I write, so when I'm wrong no one notices. Awesome.


Pentatonic scale:


|o| | | |x|
|x| | | |x|
|x| |x| | |
|x| |o| | |
|x| |x| | |
|o| | | |x|

If you go up and down that until you've memorized where to put your fingers (it's the same from any position, with circles being the roots and the x's being other notes), you can make up solos and leads using it. Lots of songs use it, most blues solos and most leads in rock music in general are in pentatonic.

Obviously, Genocide was one of the first leads that I learned how to play, but also the solo from Smells Like Teen Spirit. Both are in pentatonic and you could probably play them pretty easily.

0r4ng3
09-01-2008, 12:44 PM
The solo from TKAA is pretty straightforward, plus it's a good way to practice bends.
I could never get that damn solo. No matter how accurately I think I play it, it never sounds right.

Little_Miss_1565
09-01-2008, 12:47 PM
I could never get that damn solo. No matter how accurately I think I play it, it never sounds right.

I usually ended up improvising something slower and different during the fast bits. Hands never did want to move fast enough...maybe I was always meant to be a bass player after all, har. What kind of guitar are you playing through? My electric is an 80's metal beast.

T-6005
09-01-2008, 01:05 PM
I could never get that damn solo. No matter how accurately I think I play it, it never sounds right.

Same thing, actually. There always seems to be a little something missing at the end.

0r4ng3
09-01-2008, 01:17 PM
What kind of guitar are you playing through? My electric is an 80's metal beast.Mine is some kind of Epiphone thing. I'm not exactly sure, I don't have it with me right now.

Same thing, actually. There always seems to be a little something missing at the end.
I feel like they're using an effect for a part (and I'm obviously not), which is why it doesn't right.

T-6005
09-01-2008, 01:23 PM
I feel like they're using an effect for a part (and I'm obviously not), which is why it doesn't right.
Well, there's definitely something, although I've never spend the time to track down exactly what it was. My best guess would be a really short delay.

Static_Martyr
09-01-2008, 01:48 PM
I'm probably gonna get shot at for this, but I learned to play guitar by listening to Green Day. Lots and lots of Green Day; their solos aren't quite "solos" (unless you go all the way back to their first two albums), more like short lead riffs, but they're really good ways to learn scales and chords and how to play riffs using chords. I'd recommend Dookie, Nimrod and American Idiot, as they have the most diverse riffs of their entire discography (Insomniac has no solos at all, and Warning focuses more on bass lines and acoustic chords). The American Idiot tablature book is also good, because it teaches you how to play octave chords (which are fun to use and a primary staple of metal and punk), slides, pick scrapes....American Idiot covers most of the basic guitar techniques, so I always give it a good grade as far as starting guitar albums. Once you learn AI, you can pretty much shoot off to whatever other album you want. Just be warned, with guitar there's a pretty steep learning curve; it can be hard to find something that's just over the next hill, instead of something that's miles ahead of where you are (so to speak).

After Green Day (or if you don't like AI), I always pimp the following bands for early guitarists:

--Alkaline Trio (very, very easy --- try their albums From Here To Infirmary, Good Mourning, or even better, their B-side comp Remains). Jaked On Green Beers has a really simply "solo" near the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtL9ND1JLko

--Rancid (...And Out Come The Wolves has some great beginning blues riffs, namely Olympia, WA and Listed MIA, great album to learn pentatonic to):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJJYjszd8vU

--Early Bad Religion (How Could Hell Be Any Worse? has some great simple riffs, like Fuck Armageddon's solo and the bend from We're Only Gonna Die; this is a good album to teach the integration of several different techniques...though I'd stay away from Part III's solo until you're more experienced---that thing is like one of those Final Fantasy bosses that you meet really early, but aren't supposed to kill until way later in the game):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e_KoZvfV_c

--Cracker is a band with a lot of simple riffage. Teen Angst has a really simple lead in if you want to learn how to build speed (there are several notes played in sequence that you hold for a long time, then there's a quick burst of three notes played together):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TybFyhlwdvU

--The Foo Fighters have a lot of simple, fun riffs --- stuff like Monkey Wrench and Everlong, off of The Colour And The Shape. Another good album to learn to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ck2ygpSUg8 (monkey wrench)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpCr6Ojozz8 (everlong)

--Sum 41 has some great riffs, but they tend to go between very easy lead-ins and ridiculous solos a lot. So if you're like me, you'll be playing the lead riffs before long, but the solos might take you awhile. The best album by them to learn by is Does This Look Infected? just because of the diversity of the riffage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXOLq_6a-qQ (Hell Song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wmvB25PyQY (Over My Head, Better Off Dead)

Most of these riffs are pretty easy to figure out on your own, but if you need, I have tabs for all of 'em.

Well, there's definitely something, although I've never spend the time to track down exactly what it was. My best guess would be a really short delay.

I'm pretty sure it's clean. You know how to do that thing where you bend the one string up to match the note of the next string? I thought that was some kind of chorus or delay for like a year, and then I watched him play it live once and I was like, "OH MY GOD THAT's what he's doing," and ever since then it's never been a problem. Here's my cover:

http://rapidshare.com/files/141142151/The_Kids_Aren_t_Alright__Offspring_Cover_.mp3.html

A couple of the notes are bent and trilled, when it doesn't really sound like they would be. It's mostly a matter of finding out where the transition points are; if a note transition seems off, maybe you reached that note the wrong way (example: you bent up to it from another note when you should have slid up, etc.). If you can find a way to play it so that it feels natural, that's probably pretty close. I can tab out the version I play, if you'd like (though I don't know if it's 100% because I don't have the official tablature).

Free?
09-01-2008, 01:48 PM
Try Pay The Man solo! It is long and sounds complicated while it's easy to play.

Jebus
09-01-2008, 02:03 PM
I could get down TKAA fairly well, but there's just a couple parts of that just don't sound right compared the original track no matter what tabs I use.

The intro solo to Fade to Black is a fairly easy but still a good challenge for beginners. If you're not familiar with alternate picking yet, it's slow enough to be all down picked. The only part you'll probably won't be able to get down is that small arpeggio part. Just skip and relearn it when you're better. The little small fills that sound fast is just legato so it's also a good solo to practice your hammer-ons and pull-offs.

bighead384
09-01-2008, 04:58 PM
Thanks for the suggestions, folks. I'll have to pick one to play next time I get some time to practice.

dff_punk
09-01-2008, 04:59 PM
The first solo that acutally was really kind of a solo I learnt, was Sum 41 - The Hell Song. Try that one, it is also very fun to play.