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Hypno Toad
09-09-2008, 11:57 PM
I plan on doing this sometime this year, I have a lot of experience in precise carpentry and woodwork, and we just received a large shipment of wild maple, and wile cherry lumbers in the shop (both very solid, dense material)

Does anybody have an good sources or info/experience on making solid electric guitars? And if possible where to buy pickups and other parts in Vancouver?

I don't know a huge amount about electric guitars, so some advice would be cool.

First Step:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1105/image070bm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Progress as of now (about 6 months in):



http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1479/dsc00757q.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00757q.jpg)

Ryder1234
09-10-2008, 12:39 AM
You should be able to get all the pickups, switches etc at Long and Mquade

randman21
09-10-2008, 02:35 AM
I plan to get into amateur luthier field myself, some day. Maybe when I have more than one room to work in. I have absolutely no experience in carpentry or woodwork, but I still plan on trying my hand at it. Anyway, here's my contribution to the thread:

If you're looking for cheap, good quality stuff, try Guitar Fetish (http://www.guitarfetish.com). In spite of the name, they're known for being good and reliable. I've bought pickups, input jacks, tuning heads, and a soldering iron from them.

Steward-MacDonald (http://www.stewmac.com) is another name I hear being thrown around, more so than Guitar Fetish, so I'd imagine that they're better. At some of those prices, they'd better be.

Warmoth (http://www.warmoth.com) is the third one that I've been recommended. I only spent a few minutes on their site, and if I recall correctly, it was mostly out of my price range, but it might not be for you. Check it out.

And I'm sure there are many more.

Hypno Toad
09-10-2008, 07:40 PM
Thanks for the advice.

I never liked the idea of buying an instrument. Feels cheap. The idea that you made it feels a lot more rewarding, too. Especially if it is done really well. I would recommend it to anybody who has the skill, time and resources. Electric guitars from what I hear are very easy to make, plus you get the quality bonus if you do it yourself.

Maple and Cherry are the primary materials for pricey guitars, I have them in bulk, which helps too :P

lost_nvrfound
09-10-2008, 08:39 PM
musiciansfriend.com will be able to give you a lot of choices for all of your bits and pieces. Far more than maybe a local music store. I'm in the process of rebuilding a guitar. I've got the body of a 60s something or other, that only one person in the state might be able to identify (and thats a long drive away, so i'm keeping a close eye for a possible opportunity to take it to him). I'm trying to research parts and whatnot.

The only advice I can provide about actually making the guitar is that when you make the neck join (provided you make the body and neck to separate pieces) You want it to be as tight as humanly possible. Not only will it make the neck more solid when you secure it, but it will also make the sound richer because the contact between the woods will help with resonance (thats part of why godin's guitars are so fantastic.)

Ryder1234
09-10-2008, 09:13 PM
I'm going to be doing this myself. In woodwork this year. But I'm only gonna make the body. The neck would be difficult and I don't want to go through all that work to find out I fucked up. Also, Allparts is the way to go.

I've also reassembled two guitars before, so I know the process. So as long as I get the measurements right and don't fuck up when routering the cavities, I should be good.

drummerbecca
09-11-2008, 02:48 AM
You could try this site. You have to register but I think it has a fair bit of useful stuff on there from people who have also made their own guitars.

http://www.guitarbuild.com/

Ryder1234
09-30-2008, 07:11 PM
So in woodwork I'm planning a couple of guitar related projects. The first will be a guitar body (custom shape), mahogany with a maple top. Luckily I have a Strat body a can base my final measurements from (really only the width, and of course bridge placement).

The second will be some pickguards for my RG. The first will be the most complex, oak with a mahogany border/rim. The second will likely be yellow cedar. I don't know about the third yet, I'll have to look at some other woods. am excited about this almost more than the body (Because it'll take me a while to buy all the electrical parts and other things for it)

dreaded
09-30-2008, 10:04 PM
try this site.,they have all the info.you could get with regards to guitar assembly..www.guitarsampsetc.com







guitars (http://www.guitarsampsetc.com)

Ryder1234
09-30-2008, 10:54 PM
Here's what one of the pictures should look like:

http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=104&pictureid=1175

Ryder1234
10-15-2008, 07:48 PM
So, I was talking to my friend on MSN, he's supposed to be getting us the wood for the bodies (he's making one too), and he said he got one piece of Beech wood. Has anyone ever used this wood in a guitar or played one made of Beech? Would you recommend it?

He also said there's only enough for 1 1/2 guitar bodies, so I'm hoping they have some Beech in the shop, and if not I'll be making it out of Alder.

randman21
10-15-2008, 08:00 PM
My grandmother's last name was Beech! Anyway, from my quick research, I've read that it works just fine for guitars. I was trying to find out how resonant Beech is, but couldn't.

Ryder1234
10-15-2008, 08:03 PM
I kinda want to do it out of Alder too, but we've only used Alder so far and I want to use something else. But I may end up going with Alder depending on the appearance of the Beech. I want to use a clear finish on it.

T-6005
10-16-2008, 08:39 AM
It's too bad neocon58 isn't hanging around here any more - as I recall he made a sweet guitar. You could have asked him.

Ryder1234
10-16-2008, 09:44 PM
I think I remember that, actually.

So, it's narrowed down to two woods now: Red Oak or mahogany. I'm leaning towards mahogany because it seemed heavier than I remember mahogany being. But the mahogany will cost me more (it's only $21, but I know that that's more than oak)

Hypno Toad
10-27-2008, 01:07 PM
I've made some progress now, I have the neck to the point where I need to add the truss rod.

I cut out a stratocaster template, and am now cutting out the guitar body

I am using wild cherry for the neck, and wild western maple for the body, it will probably have a fairly hi-fi sound, with not much sound absorbsion. A downside is you can get a twangy sound sometimes. With a good amp, you could probably get rid of that sound, though.

One downside to cutting wild maple on a bandsaw, is that when it gets socrched it smells like toe cheese :(

ad8
10-27-2008, 01:18 PM
Nice... I'm also building a guitar right now. Please post some pics when your guitar is done:)

Ryder1234
10-27-2008, 05:31 PM
Until my teacher calls and orders my wood, I've been refinishing a strat copy's body, which I plan to rebuild sometime. I'm in the process of doing the finishing sanding, and thinking about what color stain I should use. I'm thinking about using a blue stain, which I would eventualy combine with gold hardware. So, anyone think I should use a different stain?

Hypno Toad
10-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Here is what I have done as of now. Not too much as you can see :P

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1105/image070bm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Not bad considering I started with lumber cut by a chainsaw from somebodys back yard :)

I plan on using a faint red stain, white hardware, and a black paint design. But I am keeping most of the natural grain. Youc ant tell from the crappy low res pic, but because the tree was from somebodies back yard, it has a lot of weird and interesting grain texture.

Cock Joke
10-27-2008, 09:21 PM
Pretty good start, I'd say. Good luck and please show us when you're done! :)

Ryder1234
10-27-2008, 10:16 PM
Looks to be at about the same stage as the one my friend is making (I haven't gotten my wood so I cant start yet). He's got the back contour filed out already though.

Ryder1234
10-29-2008, 05:07 PM
So, today I got my wood (Oak, 2''), and it's gluing. I traced my design onto some plywood (well, used my friends guitar as a reference for size, then reshaped it). It's gonna look like a PRS (like this (http://img.alibaba.com/photo/10938519/PRS_Santana_II_Model_Brazilian_Limited_Edition.jpg ) one), but with some different shaping so it's comfortable for me.

Hypno Toad
10-29-2008, 07:48 PM
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3839/image071jp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I got my front contour done, and am almost done my back one.

Ryder1234
10-29-2008, 07:54 PM
Did you do the contour on the wrong side of your guitar? If the side closest to the picture is contoured (looks to be), that's the side with the short horn (bottom of the guitar). Or are you making a reverse body strat?

Hypno Toad
11-02-2008, 10:14 PM
Hahaha, yeah, I noticed that.

I was using a guide somebody had made for it, but at one point the were doing it for a left handed guitar, and then switched over to right, and it fucked me up.

It's not problem though, because I am doing almost everything custom, so there is literally no problem with the way it is now, because it can be worked around. Shouldn't pose any problems to the actual functionality, It will just be mirrored, and the pick guard will be shaped to fit the longer horn.

I'll just say it's a hybrid stratocaster design >.> <.<

So yes, it has forced me to make it reverse. At least it will be unique :)

Ryder1234
11-02-2008, 10:58 PM
Haha that'll be cool.

So in other news, my guitar body is ready to be cut out (release cuts are done), and I stained the strat body I'm refinishing. I'll probably clear coat it tomorrow and then take it to the shop and use their buffing wheel.

Hypno Toad
11-04-2008, 05:05 PM
I have finished the back contour, and routered the inside, and have begun designing the modded pick guard.

Routered body:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1606/image074cc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Pick Guard design on black tinted acrylite (its got paper over it).

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/493/image075ay6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



The Acrylite is transparent, with a smoke grey tint to it, so you will be able to see the components inside the guitar. The inside walls will be painted red.

Ryder1234
11-04-2008, 05:50 PM
Sweet. Looking good.

Today I used the spindle sander on my body. It's smooth now, and tomorrow I'll begin the contours. Instead of contours to make it comfortable (like on a Strat), I'm gonna just contour the entire edge of the top. I brought it home to measure and draw on where the neck joint will go (so that I don't file out the wrong spot), and I took pictures that I'll have up later.

Hypno Toad
11-04-2008, 06:48 PM
Will you be using a spoke shave? it's probably the best choice for contours.

Ryder1234
11-04-2008, 07:39 PM
Well, my friend just used a file. However if we have spoke shaves that's what I'll be using. I've never checked but I'm fairly sure we would have them.

Hypno Toad
11-04-2008, 07:58 PM
Its good to use a combo of (in order)

1: Spoke shave
2: File
3: 120 sand paper
4: 150 sand paper
5: A dry paper towel to remove saw dust from the grain.

It was kind of funny when I was doing the routering. I sort of zoned out (I get that when using power tools for long periods of time) I snapped out of it when my finger was getting tired of holding down the trigger, and then I looked down and my entire body was completely covered is sawdust and shaving. Like literally, completely plastered.

Ryder1234
11-04-2008, 09:55 PM
You weren't even watching!? You're lucky you didn't fuck it up! :D

So, here's my pictures

Just the shape is cut out really
http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=1471

Another angle
http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=1472

The grain... it's nice
http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=1473

SK8rocka
11-04-2008, 10:50 PM
You weren't even watching!? You're lucky you didn't fuck it up! :D

So, here's my pictures

Just the shape is cut out really
http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=1471

Another angle
http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=1472
The grain... it's nice
http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=38&pictureid=1473

Whoa its looking great, ive seen how they make guitars and yours looks very professional.

Ryder1234
11-04-2008, 11:01 PM
You're damn right it does :p Thanks

Actually up close, that area where the neck goes is all bumpy. I'll have to take it to the bandsaw and just make it a bit more straight.

Hypno Toad
11-05-2008, 11:57 PM
Maybe use the spindle sander instead, the bandsaw can easily fuck up.

Ryder1234
11-06-2008, 12:38 AM
I know, but the spindle sander is what fucked it up in the first place.

I started contouring my edge today, but my grain looks really prone to tear out, so I just used a file. And that was making it tear out too, but not enough that I couldn't fix it.

Hypno Toad
11-07-2008, 07:09 PM
I cut out the acrylite pick guard, and have drilled all of the necessary holes in it.

I hope to apply the finish and paint to the guitar next opportunity I get.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2562/image076vb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5286/image080ma2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2605/image079sy0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



As you can see, I had a bit of a screw up on one of the holes, but it will be covered with a knob, so I am in the clear :)

Hypno Toad
11-10-2008, 06:33 PM
Part stained:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3307/image087jw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Stained Orangy-Red:

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7048/image091gx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7311/image090su1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/840/image092ur4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


The color is a lot more vibrant IRL. The picture color quality is poor.

After this, I still have to add a few coats of varnish, as well as add all of the components. Then I start working on the neck again

LosingStreak
11-10-2008, 07:27 PM
I really want to make an electric guitar. But I dont have the time or patience to do so.

Hypno Toad
11-10-2008, 08:01 PM
Carpentry doesn't really require patience.

If you like carpentry, you like carpentry, if you don't, you don't. So either you don't want to make one, ergo can't, or you do want to make one, ergo you can.

What I mean is, f you really ant to make one, then you probably can. Though the tools can often be a setback.

Unless you have a bandsaw at your disposal, I wouldn't recommend trying.

Ryder1234
11-10-2008, 09:09 PM
After this, I still have to add a few coats of varnish, as well as add all of the components. Then I start working on the neck again

I would wait until you have the neck done to add the components. Also, I would have routed the neck joint before staining, cause sometimes the router chips the wood.

Hypno Toad
11-10-2008, 10:56 PM
I would wait until you have the neck done to add the components. Also, I would have routed the neck joint before staining, cause sometimes the router chips the wood.

Then I restain it ;) The gel stain I used can be applied easily and neatly.

Also, the fact that I am building my neck gives me the flexibility to put in the components first, because I can always make small modifications afterward, the same goes for my pickgaurd. but I guess it is a matter of which one arrives/gets made first.

Ryder1234
11-10-2008, 11:06 PM
No, if you don't rout out a spot for the neck to sit in, it will be to high.

Example: http://www.pickersparts.com/khxc/media/ccp0/prodsm/hwy1_black_front_500.jpg

EDIT: You still use screws, but the fretboard needs to be right at the top of the body.

Hypno Toad
11-10-2008, 11:07 PM
No, if you don't rout out a spot for the neck to sit in, it will be to high.

Example: http://www.pickersparts.com/khxc/media/ccp0/prodsm/hwy1_black_front_500.jpg

I realized that, thus the edit :p

But as I said, if it does chip, I can re-stain it, besides, the bit I am using is brand new, and is very sharp. So I won't be worrying about chipping.

Ryder1234
11-10-2008, 11:08 PM
Haha yeah, wouldn't have been good trying to put together :D

Hypno Toad
11-10-2008, 11:12 PM
Haha yeah, wouldn't have been good trying to put together :D

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2651/nail02xv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Disastrous results :( ^

Ryder1234
11-10-2008, 11:20 PM
Haha owned :D

I'm happy with this 4 day weekend but I want to go back to school only to work on my guitar. Tomorrow's the last day of the weekend.

Hypno Toad
11-10-2008, 11:27 PM
Haha owned :D

I'm happy with this 4 day weekend but I want to go back to school only to work on my guitar. Tomorrow's the last day of the weekend.

I had to go back today because the schools like having a day off, a schoolday, and a then another day off :confused:

Ryder1234
11-10-2008, 11:50 PM
A few schools around here had to go to school today, I guess I'm one of the lucky few who didn't.

Hypno Toad
11-11-2008, 12:43 AM
A few schools around here had to go to school today, I guess I'm one of the lucky few who didn't.



I wouldn't put it past the VSB to make us go to school even after a nuclear war.


I mean, during the winter there were tonnes of car accidents on the roads to my school, and everybody still goes to school. I guess the day before remembrance day isn't much compared to the other 2 though :p

Ryder1234
11-11-2008, 04:17 PM
Haha. I remember in elementary school we got the day of because of 3 cm of snow :p

It was in May, but still it was only 3 cm.

Hypno Toad
11-13-2008, 05:12 PM
Took it into the spray booth today.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2256/image099cn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It's shiny.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2714/image102by4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5954/image097xu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hard to believe it used to be a tree in somebodies back yard, huh? =P



Next day, I'm going to add another 2-3 coats.

Unfortunately, it is to the point where I really have to start worrying about vandalism, due to all the jackasses and undiagnosed retards running around my school. So I have to put it out of the way in the upstairs storage area =(

Ryder1234
11-15-2008, 09:19 PM
Just take it home and then bring it back the next day.

So, I got my contour done. You guys know those tables that have the flip up top part? I had the body on one of them then someone flipped it up, causing it to slide off. It took a fair size chunk out of the back edge :( Luckily it's small enough that when I plane it to finished thickness it'll be gone, and I'll also be slightly contouring the rear edge which should completely get rid of it should it still be there.

Hypno Toad
11-16-2008, 12:06 AM
Just take it home and then bring it back the next day.



Because walking home a nearly complete guitar body through inner east van is a much better idea :p

Ryder1234
11-16-2008, 12:34 AM
One word: Backpack :p

Ryder1234
11-17-2008, 06:41 PM
Today I planed the body to finished thickness and used a router to round the back edge of the guitar. It's looking much better now.

Hypno Toad
11-17-2008, 07:35 PM
One word: Backpack :p

Until I give the lacquer a good few weeks to completely harden, that would be suicide :(


Also:

Applied some of the last coats, next day I will apply a thinner coat to even it out a bit.

I also began the endless job of peeling of that cardboard/paper crap from the acrylite.


http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/6104/image110xf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



just some advice to you, be very careful to avoid even tiny blemishes and pressure marks on the body. They show up quite easily once you start applying lacquer or varnish. The crappy quality of my cellphone camera just enhances the effect :(

Hypno Toad
11-19-2008, 01:35 AM
I'm not looking forward to picking it up tomorrow from it's hidey hole.

I had to put it on something that was not likely to stick to the dry, but not totally dry lacquer. I have a feeling I'm going to have to do some paper removing, but better that removing part of some other kid's project from the back...

Ryder1234
11-20-2008, 06:13 PM
When I stain my guitar, I'm gonna drill an extra hole in the neck joint (will be covered with a neck plate), and when it's dry to the point where it wont drip I'll hang it up.

I started my routing, the teacher didn't tell me to do a bit at a time (yeah, I don't have much experience with routers :D), so it slightly chipped my wood. But if I put some wood filler in it and once the pickup ring goes on, it'll be unnoticeable. I got a practice piece after that and I still hadnt been told to do a bit at a time yet, so I tried to plunge it all the way in and it broke the router bit. Then he told me to do a bit at a time, and I thought "why didnt you tell me this before!?". Once i did it the right way it worked perfectly, and ill start on my actual guitar tomorrow.

Hypno Toad
11-20-2008, 09:46 PM
Off to a good start XD


Well, don't really worry about mistakes, surprisingly, guitars are fairly forgiving when you fuck up on them. I'm going to be really careful when making the fret board though, fuck ups are not welcome there.

Ryder1234
11-20-2008, 11:33 PM
That's why I'm buying my neck :D

Ryder1234
11-21-2008, 04:49 PM
So, I started the routing, but when I tried the neck I have in the joint, they aren't the same shape. SO I've decided to make my own neck so that it'll be the same shape.

Hypno Toad
11-21-2008, 09:28 PM
So, I started the routing, but when I tried the neck I have in the joint, they aren't the same shape. SO I've decided to make my own neck so that it'll be the same shape.

That's kind of why I'm building one, just so I can be sure everything fits.

I peeled of more of that paper,a nd added a few more coats. While It was drying, the wire unraveled, and the guitar fell :(

I caught it part way down, but didn't actually grab it. it hit the table, and took a big chunk out, and only a little dent in the guitar (fixed now). I'm glad I made it out of maple ;)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9805/image118df0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1451/image114nf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

You can get an idea of the final thing now.

T-6005
11-21-2008, 11:20 PM
Ryder, are you 13?

Hypno Toad
11-22-2008, 12:42 AM
14, read the profile :p

Ryder1234
11-22-2008, 02:28 AM
Yep, 14 is right.

Hypno Toad
11-25-2008, 10:19 PM
Sprayed on the last coat of lacquer.

And finally finished peeling that paper off of the pick guard. I think the stuff I am using is ancient (10 years old) so the glue for the paper got stale. Took me 4 blocks (about 4 hours) to peel it off.

Just before last coat, I can see my reflection in the guitar =D

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7782/image123qo7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Last coat:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2729/image126cc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Back of the body:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2329/image124on5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ryder1234
11-26-2008, 12:19 AM
you so should have used the back as the front.

Hypno Toad
11-26-2008, 07:29 PM
you so should have used the back as the front.

Been through this already... it really make no difference. The original stratocaster could have been made either way, it just made the other way. Due to an error in the guide, I ended up with it the other way around when I had already started.

Besides, all the guitar players that have seen it haven't even noticed.

Ryder1234
11-26-2008, 11:10 PM
No man I'm talking about the grain pattern on the back; It's way better than the front.

Hypno Toad
11-27-2008, 10:59 AM
Oh, It only started looking better after I applied the stain.

You have a guitar, right? any chance you could take the measurements from the top and bottom on the fretboard (width) the instruction sheet I am using, I'm pretty sure is faulty. The top of the fret board in it is 1 5/8" which is completely tiny. I guessing it is wrong.

Thanks in advance, if you can help.

Ryder1234
11-27-2008, 06:29 PM
Haha. Yeah, I have 5 guitars.

Do you know what the scale of the guitar is going to be? I can help you then.

Here's one of the guitars I have, the one I use the most. It has the neck dimensions somewhere on the page, it's for a 25.5" scale.

Hypno Toad
11-27-2008, 06:37 PM
Haha. Yeah, I have 5 guitars.

Do you know what the scale of the guitar is going to be? I can help you then.

Here's one of the guitars I have, the one I use the most. It has the neck dimensions somewhere on the page, it's for a 25.5" scale.

Not sure what the scale it.

I'm building it by marking the end width, and top width across the fretboard, and then drawing a line in-between. I'm looking into buying a fretboard, because it's a very complex thing to build. But I need the size of the top and bottom to make it right.

BTW, the coat is hardened, the body is finished, minus the components and strings. Lost a bit of the glossyness after hardening, but whatever, it looks fine.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3894/image127bj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Contours:

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5907/image128si4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ryder1234
11-27-2008, 06:58 PM
It's looking good, can't wait to see it put together.

BTW, I forgot the link to the page I was talking about, so here it is: http://www.ibanez.com/eg/guitar.aspx?m=RG350EX

Hypno Toad
11-27-2008, 07:10 PM
Thanks, that'll be useful.

Turns out the reason it was small is because the measurements were for a bass guitar. With only 4 strings, you don't need as much space.

Ryder1234
11-27-2008, 08:56 PM
Seems like the person who gave you the guide fucked up big time :D

Hypno Toad
12-01-2008, 12:14 AM
I'm ordering parts at Stewart Macdonald. Starting to get pricey :(


Ryder, it looks like it might be cheaper to buy a pre-wired pickguard, and then just remove the pickgaurd :p

Is that a good idea?

Ryder1234
12-01-2008, 09:07 AM
Well it depends on what parts come with the Pick guard. You should be good for a strat but it might be a bit difficult for me. I already have wires and all though.

Hypno Toad
12-01-2008, 11:14 PM
Yeah, it's a strat picgaurd, so I guess I wll go for that.

But, my total for all the parts (tremolo/bridge, fingerboard, tuners, pre wired pickgaurd, output jack, stratocaster output jack plate, mounting plate, taxes, shipping, etc) comes out to $241.72


:eek:

So, I may look around for somebody selling an electric guitar with a fucked up body, or broken neck (both if I am lucky) and maybe take it off them for 50-75 bucks, and then just strip it for parts. As disrespectful as that sounds.

EDIT:

Man, I'm searching craigslist for some broken guitars, but they are all in ok condition, I would feel bad scrapping a guitar for parts.

Ryder1234
12-06-2008, 03:39 PM
Just do it, then if the body is in good condition, refinish and rebuild it

Hypno Toad
12-06-2008, 10:14 PM
Pfft, craigslist... I post a "wanted" message, and in 3 minutes it is buried well into the second page of people looking for useless crap. There was some guy looking for used milking equipment. Who the fuck on craigslist is going to have that?

ad8
12-14-2008, 09:04 AM
So... I just started my self-built-custom-guitar project:D
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/Ricetigers/guitar2.jpg
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/Ricetigers/guitar1.jpg
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/Ricetigers/guitar5.jpg

As you see, it's still a long way to go... from now I'll try to post pictures everytime there is noticeable progress.

Ryder1234
12-14-2008, 10:53 AM
Nice... kinda looks like... an RG-Tele hybrid? Cool though.

Im done work on my guitar for now. All that's left to be done is the neck joint and the electronics cavity, wich will both be done when I buy the neck and back plate cover so I can rout the exact shape. But I'm done all the shaping and the pickup routs.

ad8
12-14-2008, 12:26 PM
Nice... kinda looks like... an RG-Tele hybrid? Cool though.

Im done work on my guitar for now. All that's left to be done is the neck joint and the electronics cavity, wich will both be done when I buy the neck and back plate cover so I can rout the exact shape. But I'm done all the shaping and the pickup routs.

Yeah... I tried to make it look like an Ibanez FR. So I took the shape of my Ibanez GRX-40 (RG-shape) and varied the upper part of the body a bit.

Ryder1234
12-14-2008, 01:13 PM
Oh yeah I see it now. It's cool

ad8
12-15-2008, 05:19 AM
Oh yeah I see it now. It's cool

Thanks :) Have you posted pictures of your guitar / soon-to-be-guitar before?

Ryder1234
12-15-2008, 04:56 PM
yeah, theres some. but dont bother looking for them, i brought it home today and ill post pics later

Hypno Toad
02-04-2009, 05:08 PM
Happy new year everybody :p

Spent the last 2 months or so fixing the varnish coat, and working for the school's drama tech crew helping them build a set so I could get part of the part purchase subsidized.

At any rate, I ordered the parts 1 week and a half ago, and they arrived today, due to a "activity week" thing at our school, I got to do 5 hours of work on the guitar, no breaks, didn't eat or drink either =D



Anyways, I have a few pics.


Parts arrived (cost C$236):

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7725/image185ed8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Put together my custom pick guard, and here is the guitar with all the added/to add parts:


http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9577/image191sg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6711/image189un2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Outerspaceman21
02-04-2009, 05:33 PM
Thats pretty awesome. I wish I had the money and knowledge to build my own guitar. Still, kudos to you man and I hope it shreds like it does in your dreams.

Hypno Toad
02-05-2009, 03:40 PM
yeh, it's a pretty long and arduous job.

Hypno Toad
02-11-2009, 06:00 PM
Alright, beena w hile:

Sanded off all the lacquer and stain on the top surface of the guitar, and re-applied it all.

Fastened down the jack plate, gonna but some 4/8" round head screws to fasten the pickguard down, I fit the truss rod into the neck, and am beginning to shape the neck head..

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8610/image193gw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2859/image196yr6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hypno Toad
02-13-2009, 09:14 PM
Made a video of start to where I am not :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn-zSOJQtjE&fmt=22


Here are the pics that got cut out of the vid.


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7901/image202qk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9209/image201xh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7268/image200mw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ryder1234
02-20-2009, 09:45 PM
Yes, I finally have it back. My teacher had been holding onto the body until I payed up ($40) for the wood. When I brought it home I gave it a sanding with 320 grit sandpaper, so now it's nice and smooth. I re-filled the neck joint that I had started to router at the end of last semester (and the end of woodwork :(), because I really didn't want to go through with building a neck, and because I couldn't find a proper neck building guide. So I just glued in a small piece of oak and re-filed it to match the contour. Pickup routs are done, too. Now I'm saving up for my parts. I've decided on how I'm going to paint it. I'm thinking a green burst that fades to black. Do you know how to fill in the grain? Because you know how the grain on oak has lots of pores and that will show up after I've painted it for sure.

Hypno Toad
02-24-2009, 08:57 PM
ttytt I think you should use some sort of gel stain instead of paint. Also, from what I have heard unless you are a professional with the proper equipment it is a bad idea to paint your guitar. Anyways, oak is a wood that looks very nice and slapping paint over it is cheap. It's kind of like me buying gold jewelery and dipping it in brown paint ;) Maybe consider trying a stencil design (look into how it is done to do it right) and then use stains for color.

Here's a good example in blue stain:

http://www.dolphinstreet.com/uploads/fender-deluxe-players-maple.jpg

I have a small update on mine, the neck has been tapered now, and is almost ready to be attached to the guitar. I also bought some specialty screws for the pick guard, so now that is attached )will have to take it off later though)

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9243/image208.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9363/image205.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Hopefully soon I can get some high resolution/quality pictures because it does looks way better in person.

Ryder1234
02-25-2009, 12:20 AM
would there be a way to get a burst effect by staining? cause thats what im aiming for and i would definantly do that with stain if i could. maybe i could just stain it the color i want, then use paint for the burst?

Hypno Toad
02-25-2009, 04:02 PM
You could probably do it through careful application, but you should practice on another piece of wood first.

Hypno Toad
03-03-2009, 01:12 AM
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1307/image212w.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image212w.jpg)

Cut the neck notch, and am beginning the process of installing the tremolo/bridge.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5108/image210b.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image210b.jpg)

zsk
03-03-2009, 01:19 AM
I plan on doing this sometime this year, I have a lot of experience in precise carpentry and woodwork, and we just received a large shipment of wild maple, and wile cherry lumbers in the shop (both very solid, dense material)

Does anybody have an good sources or info/experience on making solid electric guitars? And if possible where to buy pickups and other parts in Vancouver?

I don't know a huge amount about electric guitars, so some advice would be cool.

First Step:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1105/image070bm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Progress as of now (about 3 months in):


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8610/image193gw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

buy:

Di Marzio Humbucker-http://www.musicworldbrilon.de/images/product_images/popup_images/205178.jpg

Hypno Toad
03-04-2009, 05:53 PM
Er, that's very pointless because the guitar body has already been cut out, the pickguard is built for 3 single coil pickups, and a humbucker creates a certain sound I don't really want.

New pictures, the tremolo contraption is almost installed, and the body is almost entirely finished. My guess is another 1-3 weeks for the rest of the guitar.

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3769/image219.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image219.jpg)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1781/image214j.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image214j.jpg)

mrconeman
03-04-2009, 06:35 PM
Is the headstock finalised? If so it's the only thing I don't like. However the rest of it is shaping up very nicely, great work. Wish I had the patience/talent for that sort of thing.

Hypno Toad
03-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Yeah, the head stock is final. Remember that that part is not done, it hasn't been properly sanded, lacquered and it doesn't have any hardware, fretwire or parts on it.

Hypno Toad
03-10-2009, 08:37 PM
Neck is almost done.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1511/image242u.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image242u.jpg)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5623/image239.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image239.jpg)

The tremolo is installed and working, as of now, I just have to do a bit more work on the pick guard, connect the output jack to the output wires, screw in the neck and mounting plate, install the fretwire, and then string the guitar.

Unfortunately the neck isn't completely centered, but I have compensated the neck angle decently.

Hypno Toad
03-12-2009, 09:08 PM
Neck is attached now (wasn't before, it was just resting in the socket)

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2238/guitarg.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=guitarg.jpg)

Gonna do the finishing steps over spring break (install the rest of the frets, oil they fretboard a bit more, do last steps on pick guard, and buy a headnut) and once I get back to school, I will fix up the finish on the body a bit, then wire the output jack and hardware together.

On a sidenote, this is a very heavy guitar, weighing probably 7 or 8 pounds.

Hypno Toad
03-21-2009, 06:22 PM
Don't care if nobody is reading:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1479/dsc00757q.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00757q.jpg)

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7884/dsc00760k.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00760k.jpg)

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8295/dsc00763v.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00763v.jpg)

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1745/dsc00764b.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00764b.jpg)

ad8
03-22-2009, 03:48 AM
Nice work dude! How does "your baby" sound?;) (Or are you yet to buy the strings?)
Today I'll finally get the body for my custom-guitar so I can start putting everything together. By the way, I'm also worried about the weight, but I'll see how it turns out.

Hypno Toad
03-25-2009, 10:29 PM
Been trying it on an amp, I was getting no output, so tonight I changed around the wiring at the output jack, hoping to test it tomorrow. Seared my skin on the soldering iron twice ;D Hurt like a son of a bitch. The first time I've ever smelled my skin burning before.

ad8
03-29-2009, 03:21 AM
So... this is my guitar. She's heavy and not really beautiful, but I don't care cause I'm super-awesome-DIY-troooo-punx:D
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/Ricetigers/P1010007.jpg
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/Ricetigers/P1010009.jpg
I think I even managed to get a decent sound out of it(which I would not have expected when I started the project).
http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc348/Ricetigers/P1010008.jpg
Edit: As you can see there's room for another two pickups, but I can't afford another two yet.

Ryder1234
03-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Nice! I like that two tone man. Looks funny without the pickups haha :D. Does that give you an acoustic sound?

ad8
03-29-2009, 12:11 PM
Nice! I like that two tone man. Looks funny without the pickups haha :D. Does that give you an acoustic sound?
Well, I don't know if it's an acoustic sound yet or if it's just the higher quality of the strings and the wood, but the unplugged sound of the new guitar is louder than the one of the old guitar.
@jpstoner: Thanks:) Do you have pictures of your guitars? I'm pretty curious now;)

Ryder1234
03-29-2009, 07:51 PM
I figured out how i might be able to do a burst with stain, but it involves paint. I would just stain it all green, and then take some black/dark green paint and do the burst like that (like on strats)

Ryder1234
04-02-2009, 01:38 PM
thanks, thatll help :)

Hypno Toad
04-16-2009, 06:56 PM
mmm, new guitar.


Body: Satin Walnut (Sweetgum tree), contoured telecaster shape
Neck: African mohogany, 22 fret, telecaster shape
Parts: Stuff from some sort of Ibanez. Got one with a broken neck for $50, So I guess the guitar is some sort of Ibanez - Telecaster crossbreed.


http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3576/image292q.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image292q.jpg)

I have more huge holes cut in the back, the electronics come through the top surface of the wood.

Outerspaceman21
04-20-2009, 04:12 PM
Sexy I WANNA FUCK THAT GUITAR!!!

Hypno Toad
04-20-2009, 07:20 PM
pfft, that's nothing:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5886/image298.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image298.jpg)

Outerspaceman21
04-20-2009, 08:06 PM
Nice. What kind of fret board are you gonna put on that?

Hypno Toad
04-20-2009, 08:52 PM
I'm guessing I'm going to be using a strat fretboard, rosewood.

Outerspaceman21
04-20-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm guessing I'm going to be using a strat fretboard, rosewood.

I love rosewood. It's really gentle on the fingers.

Hypno Toad
04-22-2009, 09:51 PM
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6947/image303t.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image303t.jpg)


http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/706/image313l.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image313l.jpg)

Hypno Toad
05-06-2009, 06:25 PM
:3

Body: Black Walnut

Neck: Spalted Western Maple

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4890/image347o.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image347o.jpg)

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8537/image348o.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image348o.jpg)

Comments please D:

Ryder1234
05-06-2009, 06:37 PM
It's awesome! I got confused seeing a normal strat body haha :D

Hypno Toad
05-07-2009, 11:55 PM
Haha, aiming for no dumb mistakes this time ;)

Ryder1234
05-09-2009, 11:45 AM
Yeah, probably a good idea haha.

I still haven't made any progress on mine. I haven't had any money to do anything. It's just at the stage where the pickup cavities are routed and the holes for knobs and such are drilled.

Hypno Toad
05-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Yeah, probably a good idea haha.

I still haven't made any progress on mine. I haven't had any money to do anything. It's just at the stage where the pickup cavities are routed and the holes for knobs and such are drilled.

That sucks. You could always buy a trashed guitar like I did for the telecaster.

Also:


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7510/image359q.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image359q.jpg)


3 to 0, Ryder; your turn! :p

Ryder1234
05-21-2009, 05:55 PM
I'm kinda pissed off, I painted my strat body blue, had clearcoat on and everything, but i got a finger print in it. I had been doing all the painting and such at car club, but i couldnt there anymore so i did another layer of clearcoat here. it was perfectly glossy everywhere but i wet sanded it because of the print, but when i started putting on my clear coat, it was all bumpy :mad:

mynamewastaken
06-06-2009, 08:54 PM
i had a dream last week and i made this electric flute and nearly killed myself when i tried to use it.

Hypno Toad
06-16-2009, 03:11 PM
I'm kinda pissed off, I painted my strat body blue, had clearcoat on and everything, but i got a finger print in it. I had been doing all the painting and such at car club, but i couldnt there anymore so i did another layer of clearcoat here. it was perfectly glossy everywhere but i wet sanded it because of the print, but when i started putting on my clear coat, it was all bumpy :mad:

Wait, you wet sanded after painting? There's your problem. Also, did you mix different paint brands?

The best way to paint a guitar body would be:

Fine sanding on basic wood body> Apply 2-3 coats of basic spraypaint> Spray on high gloss lacquer. Save the auto paint for autos :p


On the news of my most recent guitar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sYoRrtyj14&feature=channel_page


^ The audio is really crappy at the start start, because I was using a camera mic, and the amp was blaring right next to it. Also the frets need a bit of work, so there is a bit of buzz on some notes.

----

I'm just about finished school now (got provincial exams still), and I'm going nuts since I'm not building any guitars. It's like a goddamn addiction now. Planning on moving into a rental house with 5 or so friends, when and if that happens, I'm going to try and set up my own carpentry shop in the basement, at which point I'm going to start making a fucktonne of guitars; so I'm open to suggestions.

Ryder1234
06-24-2009, 11:42 PM
So, gonna refinish my RG. You said sanding between paint is bad? Is the same true for the lacquer? I'm reading a site that says if I don't have proper spray equipment, I should brush it on, and sand between coats. It should be noted that I'll be staining it, or at least leaving it natural.

Ryder1234
06-25-2009, 12:10 PM
Got 3 guitar projects this summer

The first one is the guitar I made. Gonna stain it a natural color (like this (http://www.amish-peddler.com/oak%20natural%20stain053.jpg), but a little yellower), and then I have to finish the routing and stuff, plus get all the parts.

The second is the strat I'm refinishing. I sanded down the lacquer that I fucked up, so it's somewhat foggy. But I've decided to use brush on lacquer, so hopefully, I should be able to save that paintjob cause it was good until it messed up. Then I also have to get all the parts for that.

The third is, I'm gonna refinish my RG. I'm thinking about a blue stain on it. Probably a white pickguard.

Ryder1234
06-26-2009, 01:18 PM
I got started on my guitars again. I stained my home made one a yellowy color, and it turned out fantastic. My strat... not so good. I was hoping varnish would help the foggyness, but it's still foggy. So I think I'm just gonna sand it (again), then hopefully, I can get my friend's dad to paint it for me (he's got a painting business, so he's got a professional spray gun thing). Haven't decided on a color but I'm gonna aim for a little brighter blue than I have on now. Hopefully something like this (http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/guitarimages2006/fender_ST_CrBl_05/chome_blue_stratocaster_003.jpg).

I have pictures of both results but can't upload them now. I probably will later.

I'm thinking, since I won't have access to any equipment to make new guitars, or any wood, that this summer I might just order 2 bodies, and build up my own custom guitars. I'm thinking of this (http://store.guitarfetish.com/liststbofima.html) Strat body, and this (http://store.guitarfetish.com/litestboflma1.html) Tele body (which is sold out but hopefully they'll be back in stock once I get money). And at 54 dollars a body, it's a bargain. I might end up swapping the parts out of the Tele I have for that body too.

Hypno Toad
11-15-2009, 10:20 PM
KA-BUMP!

Just figured I'd show off a more recent homebrewed project, for old times sake :p

It's a telecaster type thing, African Padauk body, Maple neck, Rosewood fretboard. Wilkinson tele pickups.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7046/image568.jpg

I'm almost done it now. need to:

- put in string ferrules
- shield and ground the guitar
- add those last four frets, then level and polish the frets.
- wire electronics
- string guitar

then done.

SweetTatyana
11-16-2009, 06:29 AM
wow that looks really good so far.
Brian may made his own guitar with his father :)

Iropsreob
11-16-2009, 07:09 PM
I would suggest cleaning them before you make them into bracelets Guitar strings get very very grimy. And maybe hot glue to cover the pointy end.

Looks good though

Ryder1234
12-02-2009, 09:03 PM
So I've been doing some work on mine again, I've finished routing the neck joint, there's a little bit of space between the neck and guitar in some places but it shouldn't matter.

Hypno Toad
12-07-2009, 02:08 AM
Bout time ;D

Most luthiers seem to use jigs when routing. I went to another guitar related forum and posted this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyA1D6YqsNM) and they were all in shocked that I managed to do the routing without any fuckups. Trick is to avoid the edges of the template pencil marks, and then slowly graze them down to the line after you're at the full depth. In your situation, as long as you screw the neck in right, everything will be aligned.

Also, here's my new guitar in the works:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4892/image581.jpg

Ryder1234
12-07-2009, 09:01 PM
Looks like you did what I did around the edge and filed a kind of contour? Haha, I think it looks suspiciously similar to mine :p. No worries though, looks great.

Hypno Toad
12-08-2009, 05:28 PM
You didn't post a picture of yours? D:


But yeah, the body is heavily rounded around the edges. It's also semi-hollow. I'd say it's chambered, but it's really heavily chambered to the point that's it's best off being referred to as semi hollow.