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Tyler Durden
09-22-2008, 06:59 PM
It was the last period of the school day, like a minute before class was out. The teacher had ended class like five minutes before that, so everyone was just sitting around talking. I was texting on my cell phone and my teacher saw the cell phone and took it away from me...WTF? I can understand if she took it away while she was teaching, I mean, where's the logic, what's the point? A minute before school was let out but she wasn't even teaching, we weren't even doing anything, it's freaking ridiculous. for the love of god, i don't get it. it's pointless.

Endymion
09-22-2008, 07:03 PM
don't most schools have rules against cell phone usage?

Homer
09-22-2008, 07:03 PM
:(:mad::(:mad:

fuk scool!!

Ryder1234
09-22-2008, 07:13 PM
don't most schools have rules against cell phone usage?

yep .

Tyler Durden
09-22-2008, 07:13 PM
don't most schools have rules against cell phone usage?

Yeah...but Id assume it's only during class when something can actually be disrupted...Like teachers don't care if you use it during lunch. So it seems pointless to take it away at such a useless time.

randman21
09-22-2008, 07:15 PM
It is, but could you not have waited one minute? It's pointless but I actually support it. When can you get it back?

mrconeman
09-22-2008, 07:26 PM
If it's been made abundantly clear like they did in my school that you're not allowed to use it in class, even free classes, you shouldn't have been using your phone, doesn't matter that it was a minute until school ended. I think phone rules are pretty fair, as long as you're allowed to have it with you on silent or something for emergencies.

0r4ng3
09-22-2008, 07:33 PM
I agree with most cell phone rules, until the point when they bring the metal detectors to the entrance of the school, and just confiscate all of them at the door. Then it's a bit ridiculous.

IamSam
09-22-2008, 07:34 PM
Cell phones in classrooms piss me off, even when it is the end of class. There are rules for them to not be there.

WebDudette
09-22-2008, 07:39 PM
We aren't even allowed to use them during lunch.

It is a reasonable rule. If you want to break it don't whine when you get caught.

ninthlayer
09-22-2008, 07:45 PM
It's nice being an adult.

Tyler Durden
09-22-2008, 07:45 PM
But I don't understand how it is reasonable...It's not like I was talking, I was just texting silently...What's the harm?

JohnnyNemesis
09-22-2008, 07:46 PM
Well, it's not about whether it was harmful or not, it's about just enforcing the rules.

lost_nvrfound
09-22-2008, 07:49 PM
At my high school, you couldn't have a cell phone out on campus period between 8:40am and 3:40pm. Granted, we had some teachers who didn't care, but I've gotten my phone taken away before the 8:40 bell. Had it been something like that, then I wouldn't blame you for being mad, but you were blatantly using your phone in front of the teacher. Thats just total disrespect for her and the school's rules. Yeah, I would text in class sometimes, but if one of them took my phone, I didn't get pissed because it was my fault for having it out.

JohnnyNemesis
09-22-2008, 07:51 PM
Sometimes I'm so proud of dropping out of high school.

jacknife737
09-22-2008, 07:56 PM
Well, it's not about whether it was harmful or not, it's about just enforcing the rules.

Exactly, it's unfortunate that you had your phone taken away, but teachers don't get to pick and choose what rules they enforce, it's their job.

IamSam
09-22-2008, 08:09 PM
But I don't understand how it is reasonable...It's not like I was talking, I was just texting silently...What's the harm?

Harm? Harm?


I don't know. Unless you want to look like this dude. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhwbNw_G6k)

Tyler Durden
09-22-2008, 08:12 PM
I understand now. I hope the teacher doesn't hold it against me.

KHWHD
09-22-2008, 08:12 PM
Harm? Harm?


I don't know. Unless you want to look like this dude. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVhwbNw_G6k)

Dayum.....

Lizardus
09-22-2008, 10:11 PM
txt, txt FIGHT THA POWAH!

Tyler Durden
09-23-2008, 12:54 AM
Cell phones in classrooms piss me off, even when it is the end of class. There are rules for them to not be there.

Why? Are you a teacher? No offense but that's kinda weird.

WebDudette
09-23-2008, 01:02 AM
If I recall correctly, he is in fact a teacher (or maybe it was a student teacher?).

wheelchairman
09-23-2008, 03:53 AM
Exactly, it's unfortunate that you had your phone taken away, but teachers don't get to pick and choose what rules they enforce, it's their job.

Actually they do and should. Some rules, especially in American schools, make absolutely no goddamn sense. For example the one about texting. There isn't a teacher in Denmark that would care.

Johnny I got you beat. I'm so glad I was thrown out of middle school.

Sunny
09-23-2008, 06:36 AM
Actually they do and should. Some rules, especially in American schools, make absolutely no goddamn sense. For example the one about texting. There isn't a teacher in Denmark that would care.

i'm pretty sure they would if at any given point there were 5+ students completely ignoring him and just pounding away at their sidekicks or blackberries.

or maybe i just know particularly bratty USian kids, who knows.

T-6005
09-23-2008, 06:45 AM
I cannot believe that you've actually gotten worked up about this.

IamSam
09-23-2008, 09:36 AM
If I recall correctly, he is in fact a teacher (or maybe it was a student teacher?).

Thank you, PilZ-E. Correct.

If it is an emergency by all means, but text on your own time. You had one minute left, it could have waited. That, and we have no idea how you act normally in the class. The teacher may not like you for other things you do in class.

jacknife737
09-23-2008, 11:23 AM
i'm pretty sure they would if at any given point there were 5+ students completely ignoring him and just pounding away at their sidekicks or blackberries.

or maybe i just know particularly bratty USian kids, who knows.

I think it's incredibly disrespectful, and some kids don't need yet another distraction while in school.

ninthlayer
09-23-2008, 11:40 AM
I find myself really enjoying IamSam's posts.

Sofinch
09-23-2008, 11:52 AM
That's so f*cking useless!
Did she kept it ?
In my school they only take your cellphone away when it makes noise during the lessons or you're using it. and then you can get it back on the end of the day at the reception.

wheelchairman
09-23-2008, 12:22 PM
Sunny, generally the philosophy in high schools here (the age group is also older as you are very able to take breaks between 9th grade and high school) is that learning is your own responsibility, if you happen to fail a course because you couldn't pay attention, boohoo.

But we don't have blackberry's here, and when I went to high school cell phones had rather limited internet capabilities.

Tyler Durden
09-23-2008, 12:51 PM
i'm pretty sure they would if at any given point there were 5+ students completely ignoring him and just pounding away at their sidekicks or blackberries.

or maybe i just know particularly bratty USian kids, who knows.

But I don't think I was ignoring her at all...After all, the school always told us not to have it out during class. Since the teacher had ended class and the teacher was doing something by herself, and everyone else was talking I just thought it was harmless.


I think it's incredibly disrespectful, and some kids don't need yet another distraction while in school.

Once again, it wasn't a distraction...Nobody was doing anything work-related. And I'm not really getting worked up, I just think it's annoying.

wheelchairman
09-23-2008, 12:53 PM
In all fairness, it was pretty stupid on your part too. No matter how you wish to interpret the rules and situation. Why couldn't you wait 5 min.? How hard would that have been?

Tyler Durden
09-23-2008, 12:55 PM
But I didn't realize I was even breaking any rules. We're allowed to have them during lunch and study hall, and since class was over I just figured it wasn't something that would get me in trouble. I didn't wait because I would never had expected that I needed to.

jacknife737
09-23-2008, 12:56 PM
Once again, it wasn't a distraction...Nobody was doing anything work-related. And I'm not really getting worked up, I just think it's annoying.

My comment wasn't really directed at you personally, more or less my views on cellphone usage in class in general.

Llamas
09-23-2008, 01:17 PM
I'm for not allowing cell phones in classes, and I don't just say that from the teacher standpoint. In college, those rules don't exist, as adults are more responsible about their phones than kids... but it still is so fucking annoying when someone is sitting right by you for a 1.5 hour lecture, and you have to listen to the clicking of the buttons the whole time. Or when someone is sitting in front of you in a darkened room and the light from their phone keeps flashing and blinking. Or when you're taking a listening exam and someone forgot to silence their phone and your professor warned everyone ahead of time to silence their phones and that he will not be repeating any parts of the exam.

I hate cell phones in class. I don't believe that they are even needed for emergency in high school- if there's an emergency, you call the school and the school gets the kid out of class to come to the office. There is just absolutely no need for them in class. I don't think they should be banned from schools, because using them during lunch or before and after school is totally fine... but I agree that teachers should confiscate them if a student has them in the classroom.

jacknife737
09-23-2008, 01:27 PM
I'm also starting to become very anti-lap top in class as of late. Nothing is more annoying then someone sitting in front of you flipping through their facebook pictures when you're trying to pay attention to the prof.

Perhaps, i'm becoming a luddite?

Llamas
09-23-2008, 01:31 PM
I'm also starting to become very anti-lap top in class as of late. Nothing is more annoying then someone sitting in front of you flipping through their facebook pictures when you're trying to pay attention to the prof.

Perhaps, i'm becoming a luddite?

I agree on that, too. I rarely see people in class using their laptops for class, ever since our campus went completely wireless like 5 years ago. Now there are always a few dozen people surfing facebook in class and writing emails. That's even more obnoxious that using a phone.

0r4ng3
09-23-2008, 01:34 PM
I'm also starting to become very anti-lap top in class as of late. Nothing is more annoying then someone sitting in front of you flipping through their facebook pictures when you're trying to pay attention to the prof.

Perhaps, i'm becoming a luddite?
I think I'd feel the same way if I saw it more often, but I haven't noticed people bringing laptops to class much.

jacknife737
09-23-2008, 01:35 PM
I agree on that, too. I rarely see people in class using their laptops for class, ever since our campus went completely wireless like 5 years ago. Now there are always a few dozen people surfing facebook in class and writing emails. That's even more obnoxious that using a phone.

Totally agree. I've seen some people who come to class, and do nothing but surf the web; why don't they just stay home?

Funny enough, first year politics students at my school have been banned from using laptops, because a couple guys thought it would be fun to watch porn in class, this doesn't affect me, but i kind of wish they'd extend the ban to the upper years.

Llamas
09-23-2008, 01:50 PM
I think I'd feel the same way if I saw it more often, but I haven't noticed people bringing laptops to class much.

What's your major? It definitely happens more in certain degree programs than others.


Totally agree. I've seen some people who come to class, and do nothing but surf the web; why don't they just stay home?

Funny enough, first year politics students at my school have been banned from using laptops at my school, because a couple guys thought it would be fun to watch porn in class, this doesn't affect me, but i kind of wish they'd extend the ban to the upper years.

Wow... that's so incredibly stupid.

That reminds me, the U of Minnesota actually has a Porn Appreciation Club. It's 100% legit and University recognized.

IamSam
09-23-2008, 01:52 PM
The college I'm attending doesn't have wireless so laptops are useless in that respect.

I don't really believe you (Tyler) that you didn't know the rules. That is a pretty much normal public school rule unless I'm horribly mistaken.

wheelchairman
09-23-2008, 01:52 PM
I think you guys are overreacting.

Llamas, if those are annoyances then someone breathing irregularly is an annoyance. Unless you guys have weird noisy and unusually bright cellphones. It is however mindboggling that you are allowed to keep your cells with you during exams. And that people don't turn them off.

Jackknife, all you gotta do is pay attention. That might be distracting but it would require only a small degree of self-control to get over it. I find myself in the same situation all the time, and it's really not that difficult unless you make it difficult. It does raise questions of why are they there in the first place though.

0r4ng3
09-23-2008, 01:54 PM
What's your major? It definitely happens more in certain degree programs than others.
I'm an art major, so I know I won't see that many laptops in class anyway, but even in my non-art classes I don't see people bringing them to class all that often either.

Superdope
09-23-2008, 01:57 PM
I've brought my laptop to school for the last year or so, and it's really useful for taking notes. I can understand that if it was being misused people could get annoyed, but I would find it hard to go back and take notes with a piece of paper and a pencil now.

This guy in my class gets caught nearly every fucking day texting, and we have a rule in our class: if you're caught texting, the price you pay is in cake form.

He hasn't brought the goods yet :(

Tyler Durden
09-23-2008, 02:00 PM
I understand that it can be distracting during class. I get that. But it wasn't during class. We weren't doing anything, it was the exact same thing as a lunch or something. The only reason why the rule exist is to not distract other students and yourself from learning or doing work. And nobody was learning or doing work, everyone else was talking or listening to their ipods. The teacher said "you can have the rest of the period for yourselves". So I just think she took it away for no reason. But whatever. I just don't think the same rule should be applied to every situation.

Llamas
09-23-2008, 02:11 PM
I understand that it can be distracting during class. I get that. But it wasn't during class. We weren't doing anything, it was the exact same thing as a lunch or something. The only reason why the rule exist is to not distract other students and yourself from learning or doing work. And nobody was learning or doing work, everyone else was talking or listening to their ipods. The teacher said "you can have the rest of the period for yourselves". So I just think she took it away for no reason. But whatever. I just don't think the same rule should be applied to every situation.
The rule is generally "no cell phones in class" and not "no USING cell phones in class". You brought your cell phone to class, and took it out (doesn't matter if class was pretty much over- you showed that you had it in class). I probably wouldn't have taken it away, depending on what kind of student you are, but I would have at least brought you aside and told you that's not allowed and next time it will be taken away.

Llamas
09-23-2008, 02:13 PM
Llamas, if those are annoyances then someone breathing irregularly is an annoyance. Unless you guys have weird noisy and unusually bright cellphones. It is however mindboggling that you are allowed to keep your cells with you during exams. And that people don't turn them off.

They're similar annoyances as someone snoring, quite honestly. It's not like omg I can't learn, but it's disruptive and just rude to people around you. Common courtesy, I guess.

wheelchairman
09-23-2008, 02:41 PM
Button pressing is so minuscule that I can't even relate to the words you are applying to this....

bighead384
09-23-2008, 03:05 PM
I understand that it can be distracting during class. I get that. But it wasn't during class. We weren't doing anything, it was the exact same thing as a lunch or something. The only reason why the rule exist is to not distract other students and yourself from learning or doing work. And nobody was learning or doing work, everyone else was talking or listening to their ipods. The teacher said "you can have the rest of the period for yourselves". So I just think she took it away for no reason. But whatever. I just don't think the same rule should be applied to every situation.

I really don't think it was necessary to take away your phone. Maybe the teacher was thinking "if I let him get away with this, people will start to push the limits further and further". Which is an understandable point of view, but I think a warning would be more appropriate in this situation. It's important to enforce necessary rules, but authority figures should always acknowledge that there are exceptions that may not necessarily be written into the laws/rules (Remember the thread I made abotu the cop pulling over the guy with the dying dog?). To put it bluntly, people that can't understand this are tools.

T-6005
09-23-2008, 03:51 PM
Lordy, you're still on this?

Tyler, your incessant whining about something that shouldn't be more than a momentary annoyance is trying my patience.

Free?
09-23-2008, 04:01 PM
Lordy, you're still on this?


It's a very delicate topic, we don't want any psychological trauma!

I think teacher just decided to be a bitch there. Everyone sometimes does that, live's not fair. If our victim still feels awful about that tragedy and wants to continue prove us that he was right, I'd recommend him to visit a psychologist. :rolleyes:

Rag Doll
09-23-2008, 04:02 PM
What's your major? It definitely happens more in certain degree programs than others.



What degree programs does this occur in? I only see people using them in the library or the University Commons or something.

Sunny
09-23-2008, 04:11 PM
I'm an art major, so I know I won't see that many laptops in class anyway, but even in my non-art classes I don't see people bringing them to class all that often either.

hm. i was a design major and *everyone* had laptops in class. partially because all the students were required to buy laptops... but even in non-design classes, everyone was using their computers. sometimes for notes, usually for fucking around/facebook/games... especially in art history classes. z_z that being said, i still got A's in all these classes, so who cares :]

Tyler Durden
09-23-2008, 04:25 PM
Lordy, you're still on this?

Tyler, your incessant whining about something that shouldn't be more than a momentary annoyance is trying my patience.

Dude, just chill the fuck out. You're complaining about me whining, but you're whining about my posts all the time? Put me on your ignore list if it's that important to you...

Llamas
09-23-2008, 05:17 PM
I really don't think it was necessary to take away your phone. Maybe the teacher was thinking "if I let him get away with this, people will start to push the limits further and further". Which is an understandable point of view, but I think a warning would be more appropriate in this situation. It's important to enforce necessary rules, but authority figures should always acknowledge that there are exceptions that may not necessarily be written into the laws/rules (Remember the thread I made abotu the cop pulling over the guy with the dying dog?). To put it bluntly, people that can't understand this are tools.
Wow, I fully agree with bighead... and I even think it was worded well and everything. *applause* But seriously, I do agree.


What degree programs does this occur in? I only see people using them in the library or the University Commons or something.


hm. i was a design major and *everyone* had laptops in class. partially because all the students were required to buy laptops... but even in non-design classes, everyone was using their computers. sometimes for notes, usually for fucking around/facebook/games... especially in art history classes. z_z that being said, i still got A's in all these classes, so who cares :]

Well there's that. But I had three majors in college before I decided on one... in music, didn't happen. Ever. Not even in music history and theory classes. I think there was a stigma against it. In the biological field, it was EVERYWHERE. I couldn't go to lecture without having someone within a few seats tapping away the whole class. Once I switched back to the liberal arts and was taking history/language classes, it was only a couple people here and there in large classes, and nobody did it in small ones. But those science people... ugh.

XYlophonetreeZ
09-23-2008, 07:13 PM
Wow, when did the BBS become such a bunch of old fogies? I'm with this kid. If other kids were just talking to one another freely with one minute left in a class which was, by all appearances, already over from the teacher's point of view, then texting on a cellphone is probably less disruptive than what the other kids were doing. Was the teacher technically wrong? No. If the school has an anti-cellphone policy during class, then she was technically within bounds. But when the only purpose for rule enforcement is to appear like a tightass stickler, then it's annoying. It's not worth getting bent out of shape about, but it's just one of those things that accomplishes nothing. It doesn't help or hurt anyone.

So my only advice to you, Tyler Durden, is to keep it that way and don't act like it hurt you in any way. Really this thread probably never should have existed. I think the only reason why most people in this thread are siding with your teacher is because you sound kinda whiny.

WebDudette
09-23-2008, 08:22 PM
I dislike texting in general. It is kind of discerning when your hanging out with a friend/friends and trying to have a discussion but they are texting the ENTIRE FUCKING TIME.

My best friend is ALWAYS texting his girlfriend. Always. We were playing cards one night and we kept having to wait on him because he wouldn't know it was hist turn.

Apathy
09-23-2008, 09:35 PM
Yeah...but Id assume it's only during class when something can actually be disrupted...Like teachers don't care if you use it during lunch. So it seems pointless to take it away at such a useless time.

Your school already sounds amazingly lenient. I've never heard of anywhere that allows phones during lunch. That's crazy.

0r4ng3
09-23-2008, 10:47 PM
My best friend is ALWAYS texting his girlfriend. Always. We were playing cards one night and we kept having to wait on him because he wouldn't know it was hist turn.
Wow, that sounds like the story of my summer.

JoY
09-24-2008, 06:49 AM
dude, couldn't you have waited for one minute?? I understand you think it's a bit unnecessary to take away someone's cellphone the last minute of class, especially when lessons are pretty much over, but on the other hand.. a minute, man. that's 60 seconds. how bad did you need to use the thing anyway at that moment?

in my opinion you shouldn't do anything during class, that has no place in class & that you can perfectly do after class. a bit of respect for the underpaid teacher with the lousy job to bring knowledge to a bunch of unwilling teenagers. I always hated those kids, who packed their books 5 minutes before the bell rang. it's freakin' 5 minutes. what's so important that can't wait for five minutes? like you're actually going to do something useful in those five extra minutes, after you've put your books in your bag.

Llamas
09-24-2008, 08:49 AM
I dislike texting in general. It is kind of discerning when your hanging out with a friend/friends and trying to have a discussion but they are texting the ENTIRE FUCKING TIME.

My best friend is ALWAYS texting his girlfriend. Always. We were playing cards one night and we kept having to wait on him because he wouldn't know it was hist turn.

I hate this. Whenever a friend starts texting while I'm talking, I just stop talking. They say, "I'm listening, don't worry." But I wait until they're done texting. It's just so rude.

XYlophonetreeZ
09-24-2008, 09:39 AM
dude, couldn't you have waited for one minute?? I understand you think it's a bit unnecessary to take away someone's cellphone the last minute of class, especially when lessons are pretty much over, but on the other hand.. a minute, man. that's 60 seconds. how bad did you need to use the thing anyway at that moment?

in my opinion you shouldn't do anything during class, that has no place in class & that you can perfectly do after class. a bit of respect for the underpaid teacher with the lousy job to bring knowledge to a bunch of unwilling teenagers. I always hated those kids, who packed their books 5 minutes before the bell rang. it's freakin' 5 minutes. what's so important that can't wait for five minutes? like you're actually going to do something useful in those five extra minutes, after you've put your books in your bag.

Normally I'd agree, but if the teacher really ended class five minutes before time ran out and kids had been talking freely during those five minutes, then really he was probably one of the least disruptive people there. It doesn't sound like there was anything to disrupt anyway.

JoY
09-24-2008, 09:51 AM
that's true. if the teacher explicitly ended class, then I don't see what she's complaining about either. hey, if she'd really ended class, then that means the cellphone incident occured after class. like I said, just don't pull stuff like that during class, even if no one is seriously following class & paying attention.

I don't know, though. it sounded to me like not so much the teacher, but the kids were just done with class & ready to go, because class was nearly over & there were only five minutes left anyway. in a classroom full of kids that are chatting & behaving like they're in a cafeteria, no teacher can continue in a decent manner. the fact she was so upset about him using his cellphone that she'd take it away, tells me she maybe wanted to make an example out of him & tried to get people's attention.

IamSam
09-24-2008, 12:28 PM
It's not a question of class ending, it's a question if the rules state no cell phone use on school grounds or in the classroom period.

bighead384
09-24-2008, 12:38 PM
It's not a question of class ending, it's a question if the rules state no cell phone use on school grounds or in the classroom period.

Technically, that's true, and I don't think the people that disagree with you fail to understand this. But shouldn't people dare to think beyond what the rules state in black and white sometimes? Don't you think there are exceptions?

IamSam
09-24-2008, 12:42 PM
Technically, that's true, and I don't think the people that disagree with you fail to understand this. But shouldn't people dare to think beyond what the rules state in black and white sometimes? Don't you think there are exceptions?

There are no gray areas in the no cell phone use on school grounds. There are exceptions, such as a student at school that is in need of a kidney transplant needs to have his cell phone on to be alerted when one is available. Now if the student misuses the cell phone then there are repercussions.

Tyler Durden
09-24-2008, 02:26 PM
OH MY GOD. Today in class she gave everyone assinged seats, and guess where she placed me? In the back table where nobody else was sitting, totally isolated. I don't know if it's because of the cell phone or not, but it's weird because I have a 94 in her class, I'm not even a bad student. wtf...why can't she just give me a break? it's not like I'm a troublemaker, it was just one mistake. She's like "okay, I have you put down to sit right over there" and I'm like uhhh...oh my god

Thomas
09-24-2008, 02:30 PM
Most teachers do random assigned seating and switch people up from there if there are problems. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Usually if you have an A, teachers won't hold a grudge against for a minor offense like that, but if they do hold a grudge (I've yet to come across a teacher that did that), they aren't going to isolate you because of that. Just bad luck, I'd guess. No need to make mountains our of mole-hills, I say.

Little_Miss_1565
09-24-2008, 02:32 PM
Wow, when did the BBS become such a bunch of old fogies?

Damn kids GET OFF MY LAWN!


Technically, that's true, and I don't think the people that disagree with you fail to understand this. But shouldn't people dare to think beyond what the rules state in black and white sometimes? Don't you think there are exceptions?

Shouldn't people generally pick more worthwhile battles to fight? There are a lot of good reasons for not allowing cellphones and texting in classes, such as being able to cheat on exams etc that way, without the annoyance factor. I generally agree with what IamSam said. My 10 year old cousins have had cell phones on them at school since they were 8. This is Brooklyn, after all, and my aunt works full time. If they fuck around in class with them, though, there are consequences.

JohnnyNemesis
09-24-2008, 02:41 PM
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Cock Joke
09-24-2008, 02:44 PM
Holy shit! Nice tags!

randman21
09-24-2008, 07:45 PM
Doesn't this mean that the guy will stop poking you with the pencil now?

IamSam
09-24-2008, 10:56 PM
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FTW. Thread is done.

Llamas
09-24-2008, 11:21 PM
OH MY GOD. Today in class she gave everyone assinged seats, and guess where she placed me? In the back table where nobody else was sitting, totally isolated. I don't know if it's because of the cell phone or not, but it's weird because I have a 94 in her class, I'm not even a bad student. wtf...why can't she just give me a break? it's not like I'm a troublemaker, it was just one mistake. She's like "okay, I have you put down to sit right over there" and I'm like uhhh...oh my god

...are you, like, 8 years old? If you have questions, go ask your teacher. Honestly, after class, just walk up to her and ask why she put you there if it bugs you... instead of crying about it. If you do it in a mature manner, she'll respect you and give you a reason. My god.

JoY
09-25-2008, 07:58 AM
It's not a question of class ending, it's a question if the rules state no cell phone use on school grounds or in the classroom period.

rules may be rules & there may be no exceptions made, but point is that there is a reason behind every rule.
cellphones are banned from classrooms, because they're disruptive during class & it's disrespectful towards the teacher, who's trying to doing his/her job of educating you, aswell as towards your classmates, who are trying to pay attention & be educated. not to mention people use them for cheating during tests & exchanging answers they should come up with themselves. the use of cellphones during class stands in the way of the educational function & purpose of school & class. that's why they're banned.

if the teacher explicitly ended class herself & as a result the entire class was doing something other than engaging in education, rules against the use of a cellphone in class aren't really functional, but just enforced blindly. because something's a rule & she's in the position to enforce it, it doesn't mean she should enforce it at all times like on some kind of powertrip. if you ask me, that's just kind of unnecessary & makes rules lose their function.

not that she's wrong to enforce it, technically she's absolutely right. she just didn't have to enforce it at that moment.


Technically, that's true, and I don't think the people that disagree with you fail to understand this. But shouldn't people dare to think beyond what the rules state in black and white sometimes? Don't you think there are exceptions?

I'm not saying I agree with you all the time, but seeing your posts & the way you attempt to word your point, you really did manage to make a brand new start! you're one of few that is doing a damn good job at making the change of username an actual effective change of image. you're also one of few who's aim was to improve & make a better impression under a new username, instead of making one for the purpose of spamming some more, or shaking off bashing members like in a chase.


There are no gray areas in the no cell phone use on school grounds. There are exceptions, such as a student at school that is in need of a kidney transplant needs to have his cell phone on to be alerted when one is available. Now if the student misuses the cell phone then there are repercussions.

in my opinion, there's no good reason why a student shouldn't be allowed to use his/her cellphone on schoolgrounds in a spare moment at which the school isn't performing it's function of education. except to discourage the use of cellphones at school overal, so students stop bringing them with them altogether & automatically don't take them out during class. cellphones actually indirectly encourage kids to socially interact, which can be considered an important function of school. although I must say I find it better if kids directly socially interact, especially at school where they're grouped together, without the use of a cellphone.


OH MY GOD. Today in class she gave everyone assinged seats, and guess where she placed me? In the back table where nobody else was sitting, totally isolated. I don't know if it's because of the cell phone or not, but it's weird because I have a 94 in her class, I'm not even a bad student. wtf...why can't she just give me a break? it's not like I'm a troublemaker, it was just one mistake. She's like "okay, I have you put down to sit right over there" and I'm like uhhh...oh my god

if you get such good grades & usually don't pull stupid shit, then maybe she figured it's better to put troublemakers, that she needs to keep an eye on, & students with difficulties with that course, who need extra help & encouragement, in front.
maybe you were placed by yourself in the back of the class, because you don't need fellow students to study with to help each other to understand the matter, because you're just that good at the subject.
it could also be, that because you get such good grades & do so well in her class, she gets the impression you easily get bored during class & don't need to pay attention in order to get good grades, which could distract others & keep other students from studying.

whichever it is, I'm sure it can't have much to do with the cellphone-incident. maybe you feel like the cellphone-incident is the only time you somewhat misbehaved in class & that you're a good student, because you get awesome results, but being an A student doesn't automatically make you a good student. it's also a matter of attitude & behavior.


...are you, like, 8 years old? If you have questions, go ask your teacher. Honestly, after class, just walk up to her and ask why she put you there if it bugs you... instead of crying about it. If you do it in a mature manner, she'll respect you and give you a reason. My god.

*high fives* yeah baby, yeah!

it's alright to start a discussion on the use of cellphones at school among youngsters & if it was okay or not for your teacher to take away your cellphone. your teacher on a powertrip doesn't make the most interesting of topics, but it's turned out to be a fairly interesting discussion. but the last post makes it painfully obvious the topic was really just to nag about the teacher.

Llamas
09-25-2008, 09:37 AM
if you get such good grades & usually don't pull stupid shit, then maybe she figured it's better to put troublemakers, that she needs to keep an eye on, & students with difficulties with that course, who need extra help & encouragement, in front.

This is an extremely good point. I would NEVER put a troublemaker bad student in the back of the classroom alone... they're always front and center for me. The good kids are the ones who get to sit in the back.

And yeah, this thread did turn out to be a place for Tyler to balk and scream about his teacher.

Free?
09-25-2008, 10:34 AM
Seeing all those discussions and for how long this thread still lives makes me agree with how thread is named.

This is RIDICULOUS!

bighead384
09-25-2008, 12:51 PM
There are no gray areas in the no cell phone use on school grounds. There are exceptions, such as a student at school that is in need of a kidney transplant needs to have his cell phone on to be alerted when one is available. Now if the student misuses the cell phone then there are repercussions.

This isn't a big deal anyway so if that's how you feel then so be it. But all I'm saying is, I really don't see what's so wrong with telling the kid something like "I can see why you might think it's okay to use your cell right now, but it's not, and next time I'm going to have to take it from you. Understood?"


I'm not saying I agree with you all the time, but seeing your posts & the way you attempt to word your point, you really did manage to make a brand new start! you're one of few that is doing a damn good job at making the change of username an actual effective change of image. you're also one of few who's aim was to improve & make a better impression under a new username, instead of making one for the purpose of spamming some more, or shaking off bashing members like in a chase.

Cool, thanks.