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Gustavo
10-01-2008, 11:02 AM
Thread about the artwork and booklet for the RAFRAG album covered by us!
I've started a cover, I'll post it here as soon as possible!
Any thoughts?

Status

Cover: (Done) - iGustavo
Back: (Done) (?) - iGustavo

1. Half-Truism (Done)- Sofinch, Tijs
2. Trust In You (Done) ? - Free?, -L-
3. You're Gonna Go Far, Kid (Done) - Free?, -L-
4. Hammerhead (Done) - Free?, Joy
5. A Lot Like Me (Done) ? _Lost_, -L-, Tijs
6. Takes Me Nowhere (Done) - Hypodermic_89
7. Kristy, Are You Doing Okay? (Done) - Hypodermic_89 / _Lost_
8. Nothingtown (DONE) - Motacos / Anka, Superdope, Free?
9. Stuff Is Messed Up (Done) ? - _Lost_, Free?
10. Fix You (DONE) - Free?, Anka, Drummerbeca, -L-
11. Let's Hear It For Rock Bottom (DONE) - Hypodermic_89
12. Rise And Fall (Done) - Tijs
13. O.C. Life (NOT STARTED YET) - Will there actually be a page for O.C. Life?

Credits page: (DONE) ? - Tijs
Booklet: (DONE) ? - Tijs


EDIT:
Here's the "official" stuff we've done so far.

The main album cover (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9516/coverdonern0.jpg) by iGustavo
1. Half-Truism (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8274/halftruismre1.jpg) Sofinch, Tijs
2. Trust In You (http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/Trustinyou.jpg) Free?, -L-.
3. You're Gonna Go Far, Kid (http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/YGGFKksz.jpg) Free?, -L-
4. Hammerhead (http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/HAMMERHEADfinal.jpg) Free?, JoY
5. A Lot Like Me (http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/812/allmbymartatijscorrectift5.jpg) _Lost_, -L-, Tijs
6. Takes Me Nowhere (http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a271/Youth_Energy/TakesMeNowhere.jpg) Hypodermic_89
7. Kristy, Are You Doing Okay?
8. Nothingtown (http://img01.pipa.jp/tegaki/user_img/12161/1216135477961632.png) Motacos
9. Stuff Is Messed Up (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/SIMUcopy.jpg) Free?, -Lost-
10. Fix You (http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/fixyou2.jpg) Free?, -L-
11. Let's Hear It For Rock Bottom
12. Rise And Fall (http://i33.tinypic.com/c3gk9.jpg) Tijs
13. O.C. Life

The credits page (http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=1249) by Ryder1234

EDIT 2:

http://data.tijsvl.net/files/booklet.html

(or http://data.tijsvl.net/files/booklet_s.html if it doesn't fit your screen)

Free?
10-01-2008, 11:22 AM
Yeah, this:

I think it should be pretty much like a classic booklet. A page for every song with names of artists/some images, maybe forum quotes about that cover (but we can't really get quotes without spoiling :S). And in the end list of all participants, special thanks', message to The Offspring and blablabla stuff like that. We might put some references from other Offspring albums booklets. Oh, and don't forget the explicit lyrics mark :D. I'm done for now.

Also, there's something more I'd like to add.

Everyone's ideas, thoughts, artwork versions are appreciated here! Don't be shy, if you have anything useful (or not-so), post it!

We are not a closed group, every forum member is welcome to help.

Gustavo
10-01-2008, 12:02 PM
Ok, I've made a cover, it's not an actual cover yet... It's pretty much a 'preview'.

If you guys want to check it out...

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8509/anjorafrag2wn8.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anjorafrag2wn8.jpg)

Free?
10-01-2008, 12:40 PM
Eh, I kinda didn't get the idea, is he pointing at "RAFRAG" or doing an ancient egyptian dance? :) :). I love fonts though!

Also I've been exploiting the search button a lot now and found 2 threads with materials which might be used for booklet.
http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33363&highlight=RAFRAG+artwork&page=4
http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31879&highlight=album+artwork
I rrrreally liked some works there pretty much. Artwork authors, we might need your talent *glares at IamSam, Stylie, Dosix, sablock, leo3375, Unnatural Disaster, Mushroom, Mad Ian, powerh and remembers Hypodermic_89*!

Gustavo
10-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Well, it's supposed to be a man holding a microphone and singing, but he's got wings.
It sucked, didn't it? :P

Free?
10-01-2008, 02:31 PM
Oh, haha, now I see Freddy Mercury there :D

Gustavo
10-01-2008, 03:14 PM
Oh, haha, now I see Freddy Mercury there :D

oooh HAHHAHAHAHAH
but anyway... it's jsut the 'main idea'... be honest, did you like it?

Free?
10-01-2008, 03:42 PM
To be honest, not really. If that guy would hold an opened Gringo Bandito in the way he holds mic and eat the hot stuff (that guy from KROQ interview comes to mind) it would look better :). The singing man doesn't represent anything from what the people here are, not what The Offspring are (none would recognize Dexter there), so yeah... to me it represents Freddy Mercury. I liked your baby angel idea better, though it seems that he should look even more like baby.
I think we shouldn't try being serious with artwork because it's more difficult that way, silly/humor/parody artworks seems like much more safe way to go. And we shouldn't afraid of using some crazy elements like keyboard wings or monitor face (LOL bad example!).

But that's just my opinion, we NEED to hear many people here.

Stylie
10-01-2008, 03:51 PM
Artwork authors, we might need your talent *glares at IamSam, Stylie, Dosix, sablock, leo3375, Unnatural Disaster, Mushroom, Mad Ian, powerh and remembers Hypodermic_89*!

Oh, how nice. Thanks! :)

Well, I posted a comment in the "RAFRAG covered by us", asking how's it going with the artworks. 'Caus I have an electric guitar now, but after what I've found out I'm a little bit to late for that, heh. So yeah, maybe I could help with something. I got Photoshop on my other computer, though I think iGustavo is better than me on that. But I can draw something, maybe?


I liked your baby angel idea better, though it seems that he should look even more like baby.
Agree. I actually didn't like this last picture too good, but the "baby" angel was really, really cool. I think you should work a little bit more on that, 'caus you really had something going on there.

Free?
10-01-2008, 04:50 PM
Oh, how nice. Thanks! :)

Well, I posted a comment in the "RAFRAG covered by us", asking how's it going with the artworks. 'Caus I have an electric guitar now, but after what I've found out I'm a little bit to late for that, heh. So yeah, maybe I could help with something. I got Photoshop on my other computer, though I think iGustavo is better than me on that. But I can draw something, maybe?


It would be cool if you could produce an artwork or two. Maybe original artwork's remake, or how you imagine your own artwork for a certain song, or something I haven't mentioned yet. I liked sketches like some of you guys drawn by hand and I don't see any big problem if it would be an edited scan of such sketch.

At this moment we really need as many ideas as possible so we could choose/combine the best of them and start creating.

Stylie
10-01-2008, 05:00 PM
It would be cool if you could produce an artwork or two. Maybe original artwork's remake, or how you imagine your own artwork for a certain song, or something I haven't mentioned yet. I liked sketches like some of you guys drawn by hand and I don't see any big problem if it would be an edited scan of such sketch.

At this moment we really need as many ideas as possible so we could choose/combine the best of them and start creating.

Yeah, I understand.

I like the idea of remaking original artwork (like the baby angel, really cool). Well, I'll see what I can do.
We're going to our cabin tomorrow for some few days, so I'll have plenty of time then. Really want to be a part of this. :)

Gustavo
10-01-2008, 07:06 PM
Ok, guys... I'm going to back to work on that baby one tomorrow! :)

Free?
10-02-2008, 01:43 PM
Check out my brand new Trust In You artwork! B)

The basic idea looks like this:
http://xmages.net/out.php/i34725_TrustInYou.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/Trust-In-You.jpg
I've tried some additional effects and ended up with these 2:
http://xmages.net/out.php/i34741_TrustInYou2.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/Trust-In-You2.jpg
http://xmages.net/out.php/i34742_TrustInYou3.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/Trust-In-You3.jpg
Soo what do you people think? Is it good nuff to be in booklet? Maybe any changes you would like to recommend? The more opinions I'll see, the better... Anyone?

Stylie
10-02-2008, 02:22 PM
Nice, liked the last one best (the sun effect). What program did you use?
Those buildings in the sides wasn't too nice, sorry. :P But otherwise, really great!

Free?
10-02-2008, 04:21 PM
Nice, liked the last one best (the sun effect). What program did you use?
Those buildings in the sides wasn't too nice, sorry. :P But otherwise, really great!

Thanks :). I used Photoshop, it took a while to draw all the silhouettes with mouse. And those buildings... I had a feeling that without them it was too apocalyptic/empty. I'm pretty satisfied with how it looks, yeah, buildings are extremely cheesy :D, but it was intentional to point that they're all identical.
I hope that more people say what they think, if I'll see many building critics I'll have no choice but to redo them :).

Stylie
10-02-2008, 04:25 PM
Thanks :). I used Photoshop, it took a while to draw all the silhouettes with mouse. And those buildings... I had a feeling that without them it was too apocalyptic/empty. I'm pretty satisfied with how it looks, yeah, buildings are extremely cheesy :D, but it was intentional to point that they're all identical.
I hope that more people say what they think, if I'll see many building critics I'll have no choice but to redo them :).

Yeah, it must be something there, but as you said, those buildings was a little bit too cheasy. :p
Otherwise, it's really nice. Let's see what others say about it.

Gustavo
10-03-2008, 07:32 AM
After working for two hours... This is what I came up with.

http://i37.tinypic.com/68dapx.jpg
http://i35.tinypic.com/2j0e4bs.jpg

Gustavo
10-03-2008, 07:33 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/nbek9y.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/14socj7.jpg

So, what do you guys think?

Free?
10-04-2008, 04:24 AM
I like em. I would add a dummy, maybe red pampers (but I think the third (http://i34.tinypic.com/nbek9y.jpg) and fourth (http://i38.tinypic.com/14socj7.jpg) versions look probably better first two with pampers added). The only two things that imo should be changed are chains (they look more like pearl beads) and lines would look better if they wouldn't be edgy but more curvier, check the original RAFRAG cover and you'll see what I mean ;).
I can't decide which size of wings I like better though, both look good :).

Sofinch
10-04-2008, 12:31 PM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1210

http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1211

some stuff I already made before (sorry for the small size)

Free?
10-04-2008, 12:59 PM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1210

http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1211
some stuff I already made before (sorry for the small size)

Cool! We might use it somewhere, I'm pretty sure. But not as the main album's artwork because it'll be Gustavo's angel (sorry :().


I think it would be great for each covered song to have a made by us artwork.

The problem is that there are very few people responding in this thread and for now I can't be certain about every song will have an artwork.
I have an idea for Stuff Is Messed up one, but it'll be difficult to make it with my current Photoshop+mouse.

So I'm asking everyone willing to participate, I wish this thing to keep moving not getting stuck.

-L-
10-05-2008, 05:23 AM
http://xmages.net/out.php/i34741_TrustInYou2.jpg



I think your Trust in you idea isn't bad, maybe I can make something. Can you send your art without the houses?

Free?
10-05-2008, 05:40 AM
I think your Trust in you idea isn't bad, maybe I can make something. Can you send your art without the houses?

Sure. I guess you'll use photoshop as well so I can send you my .psd files with all the layers. The only downside is that they aren't colored, but it can be easy fixed when the image will be ready.
Oh, and check the sun layer. It isn't complete in 1st and 2nd versions as it is in 3rd one.
Here's the link http://www.sendspace.com/file/prxhc7

-L-
10-05-2008, 05:44 AM
Thank you, I downloaded it, and see what I can do:D

Free?
10-05-2008, 05:48 AM
I'm very intrigued :).

Sofinch
10-05-2008, 07:16 AM
Cool! We might use it somewhere, I'm pretty sure. But not as the main album's artwork because it'll be Gustavo's angel (sorry :().


I think it would be great for each covered song to have a made by us artwork.



Hey no problem !! :D I think that angel is even better than the original one it would be a sin not to use that pic. :D

Free?
10-05-2008, 09:09 AM
I've tried several times to make a Stuff Is Messed Up artwork, but I failed miserably :/ . I just can't draw it with mouse.
The idea is a TV showing some supersexy glamorous big breasted cutie posing for red carpet photos / doing an advertisement / telling about the weather / winning a reality show / getting an oscar award or something like that and saying that life is wonderful in the subtitles. Behind TV there is a broken wall and you can see tornado / tsunami / nuclear explosion / nuclear plant burning / bombers flying in the sky / (insert your disaster).
Maybe anyone who might somehow put that in one image? I couldn't! :mad: Maybe even that idea wasn't decent...

EDIT: If anyone has some ideas, post em here, we could use them! ;)

Gustavo
10-05-2008, 10:12 AM
I've tried several times to make a Stuff Is Messed Up artwork, but I failed miserably :/ . I just can't draw it with mouse.
The idea is a TV showing some supersexy glamorous big breasted cutie posing for red carpet photos / doing an advertisement / telling about the weather / winning a reality show / getting an oscar award or something like that and saying that life is wonderful in the subtitles. Behind TV there is a broken wall and you can see tornado / tsunami / nuclear explosion / nuclear plant burning / bombers flying in the sky / (insert your disaster).
Maybe anyone who might somehow put that in one image? I couldn't! :mad: Maybe even that idea wasn't decent...

EDIT: If anyone has some ideas, post em here, we could use them! ;)

Good idea, I might try to do it once the cover is done... I'll be able to work on the cover again on Monday, could you choose one of the four for me to do the changes?
Then I'll be able to work on this idea of yours.

Free?
10-05-2008, 11:36 AM
Good idea, I might try to do it once the cover is done... I'll be able to work on the cover again on Monday, could you choose one of the four for me to do the changes?
Then I'll be able to work on this idea of yours.

I'm leaning towards http://i34.tinypic.com/nbek9y.jpg or http://i38.tinypic.com/14socj7.jpg. Both wings look great to me. But if I have to choose one, then I'd choose http://i38.tinypic.com/14socj7.jpg . It's closer to the original and logically baby angels shouldn't have bigger wings than mature angels :).

-L-
10-05-2008, 12:11 PM
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/Trustinyou.jpg

What are you thinking about?

Free?
10-05-2008, 12:20 PM
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/Trustinyou.jpg

What are you thinking about?

Fuck! It's amazing! It actually looks like a booklet page much better now! Thumbs up!

-L-
10-05-2008, 12:33 PM
Thank youuu:D :D Yeah I think its so good, and I make more sure, but I need some basic art, because I can't draw:)



(and can't speak English, so execuse me:D)

Rutegard
10-05-2008, 01:25 PM
Thank youuu:D :D Yeah I think its so good, and I make more sure, but I need some basic art, because I can't draw



oh i loved it :D

it's great!!


gimme more!!! :D

Free?
10-05-2008, 01:34 PM
I think I came up with a decent concept of Kristy's artwork. A girl watering a dried but not dead yet flower. I think it's pretty obvious what saving a dying flower could mean.
... Now I wished I could draw a cute girl...
EDIT: Rutegard, you might help with just any concept idea that could born in your amazing zillions-offspring-receptors-brain ;).

-L-
10-05-2008, 01:40 PM
Yes, I think it would be good, come on, do it!:D You're Trust in you art is awesome, I love it, so you can make other fine pictures:D

-L-
10-05-2008, 01:44 PM
YOUR ( not you're!!!:D)

Stylie
10-05-2008, 03:35 PM
Nice Trust In You-picture! :)

And iGustavo, looks great. I would actually choose this picture http://i34.tinypic.com/nbek9y.jpg (with the big wings) instead of the one with small wings. Free? got a point, but the one with big wings filled the whole picture, looks greater.

And'eh... I haven't drawn something yet. I have done other things and stuff, but I'll keep it in mind. See if I can do something tomorrow. ^^

lost_nvrfound
10-05-2008, 07:34 PM
I think I came up with a decent concept of Kristy's artwork. A girl watering a dried but not dead yet flower. I think it's pretty obvious what saving a dying flower could mean.
... Now I wished I could draw a cute girl...
EDIT: Rutegard, you might help with just any concept idea that could born in your amazing zillions-offspring-receptors-brain ;).


I've tried several times to make a Stuff Is Messed Up artwork, but I failed miserably :/ . I just can't draw it with mouse.
The idea is a TV showing some supersexy glamorous big breasted cutie posing for red carpet photos / doing an advertisement / telling about the weather / winning a reality show / getting an oscar award or something like that and saying that life is wonderful in the subtitles. Behind TV there is a broken wall and you can see tornado / tsunami / nuclear explosion / nuclear plant burning / bombers flying in the sky / (insert your disaster).
Maybe anyone who might somehow put that in one image? I couldn't! Maybe even that idea wasn't decent...

i like these. give me more concepts ya'll. I'm not too great at concepts, but you give me the idea and i'll transform it into a nifty drawing for you.

I'm also working with an idea for the pictures of us. rather than having photos, i think it'd be cool to take one of each of us and i could draw all of us in one (like the promo pics the offspring does. i'd want pretty much everyone in it if i could).

look at my artwork album on my profile if you want to be sure i can draw.

ps: sorry, i have a bit of an ego when it comes to my drawing skills. i spent 7 years working on them throughout middle and highschool.

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 01:07 AM
Well, I'm doing a credits page right now, once you do the drawing of us all I can base it around that. I'll finish what I started tomorrow and post it.

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 08:59 AM
cool beans.

i've also been reminded by free? that i need to say that i am doing allm. i don't know what i am doing for it yet though, so i'll take ideas

Free?
10-06-2008, 09:17 AM
cool beans.

i've also been reminded by free? that i need to say that i am doing allm. i don't know what i am doing for it yet though, so i'll take ideas

The best concept for ALLM artwork I've came up with yet is:
there are two rooms, in both rooms two corporate guys came home from their works, they're really stressed and depressed and look in the mirrors which are on both sides of the same wall that separates the apartments, so it looks like they look at each other through the mirrors as it was a window.
I know, I've explained the idea pretty awful, I can't see the image very clear myself, I hope somebody will think of anything better.

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 09:21 AM
The best concept for ALLM artwork I've came up with yet is:
there are two rooms, in both rooms two corporate guys came home from their works, they're really stressed and depressed and look in the mirrors which are on both sides of the same wall that separates the apartments, so it looks like they look at each other through the mirrors as it was a window.
I know, I've explained the idea pretty awful, I can't see the image very clear myself, I hope somebody will think of anything better.

hmm... well the idea i get from the version of the song we made would be like between a guy and a girl. and the guy is like blaming her for all of his hurt, but she is saying that he is just as much to blame as she is. its really dark. i love listening to it the way we did it. its so amazingly painful and what not. you'll see what i mean when you finally listen to it. i think its awesome!

Free?
10-06-2008, 09:25 AM
hmm... well the idea i get from the version of the song we made would be like between a guy and a girl. and the guy is like blaming her for all of his hurt, but she is saying that he is just as much to blame as she is. its really dark. i love listening to it the way we did it. its so amazingly painful and what not. you'll see what i mean when you finally listen to it. i think its awesome!

Oh right, I've completely forgot that it's an artwork for your cover not for the original!
EDIT: Fuck, it made things even more complicated :p!

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 09:27 AM
Oh right, I've completely forgot that it's an artwork for your cover not for the original!

hehe... i can still use part of your concept. i like the mirror. i was thinking something along those lines. i think i may have something ...

Free?
10-06-2008, 10:35 AM
Here's what I think about concept for YGGFK.
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/DanceBuckerDance.jpg
I was trying to draw a masked politician dancing, ended up using google and
after very quick search I've found something that could describe my idea really good ;).
http://www.miniclip.com/games/dancing-bush/en/ :D . ...mheeheheheheee....

We can't use it right as it is now, but at least we have a good pose/silhouette to start with.

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 12:22 PM
HAHAHA! Thats good stuff! I could play that all day!

hmm... i'm off to find my sketch book

Gustavo
10-06-2008, 01:53 PM
I've tried several times to make a Stuff Is Messed Up artwork, but I failed miserably :/ . I just can't draw it with mouse.
The idea is a TV showing some supersexy glamorous big breasted cutie posing for red carpet photos / doing an advertisement / telling about the weather / winning a reality show / getting an oscar award or something like that and saying that life is wonderful in the subtitles. Behind TV there is a broken wall and you can see tornado / tsunami / nuclear explosion / nuclear plant burning / bombers flying in the sky / (insert your disaster).
Maybe anyone who might somehow put that in one image? I couldn't! :mad: Maybe even that idea wasn't decent...

EDIT: If anyone has some ideas, post em here, we could use them! ;)

Ok, I did an artwork for Stuff Is Messed Up, not sure if you guys will like it, but anyway... here it goes:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8426/stuffismesseduplyricszc3.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/853/stuffismessedupnolyricsbs3.jpg

What do you guys think?

Free?
10-06-2008, 02:38 PM
I really like how you've done window and TV, the guy is okay too i guess ;), but I think lyrics should be placed somehow different. And using Coca Cola logo isn't correct too I guess, I would replace it with "Life is wonderful" subtitle or something like that.
Any other opinions anyone?

Here's YGGFK artwork's preview. Will it be any good?
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/YGGFKpreview.jpg

Of course it's ways too empty atm and discoball clearly sucks :D (i just put it as a preview of something that could be added, I'll have to make a new one if it will be needed). It might be a good idea to add disco light rays and walls lol.
I guess, I'm uploading the source files so someone (like -L- ;) )could finish this work.
Here's the link http://www.sendspace.com/file/k0jzpu.

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 04:39 PM
Ok, so I need to know everyones names for the credits page, since I'll be putting both screen names and actual names. And remind me of everyone who has played on this record. In categories. Heres all I can remember now, and it may be everyone but I don't remember.

Guitarists:
Me
Tim
Felldrake
Raptor
?

Vox:
Karin
Tim
?

Bassists:
Tim
Felldrake
?

Drummers:
Becca
Zee
Felldrake (drum machine?)
Tim
Thomas
?

I think I got everything, but not sure about the bass.
And if I'd have to guess I'd say Thomas is your real name right?

EDIT: Add an American flag Free?.

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 08:51 PM
i've also started on a rough draft as a possible for SIMU. let me take a quick picture of it so you guys can choose which you like better. i don't want to keep working on it if you prefer his.

now remember this is a rough draft. Just to show the concept. I'd redraw it better and with a lot more detail if you like it.

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 09:00 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/DSC01121.jpg

so basically you've got a tv in the middle of a war zone. its like inside what used to be a house (i.e. the bricks). And its tuned in on the emmys.

sorry the picture is so bad. I don't have my scanner at school. i really should bring it back with me.

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 09:17 PM
Grand unveiling:

http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=1249

Simple, but I feel like I'm missing someone. Let me know if I am.

Karin I had a concept for Rock Bottom. It doesn't go with the feel of the song but more with the title:

A student (probably in high school) is walking down a hallway with his hands in his pockets, and his head is hanging down. On the sides of the hallway are students, all laughing and pointing at him.

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 09:23 PM
Grand unveiling:

http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=1249

sweet!


A student (probably in high school) is walking down a hallway with his hands in his pockets, and his head is hanging down. On the sides of the hallway are students, all laughing and pointing at him.

got it, processing, idea created. i'll play with it tomorrow. whatchu think of the SIMU idea?

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 09:26 PM
It looks like it'll be really cool once it's all colored and stuff. :)

For the sketch of us all, should the pictures be full body or just head shots? I think full body would be cooler because we could all be standing in a group.

like my little message in the bottom right? :D

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 09:30 PM
It looks like it'll be really cool once it's all colored and stuff. :)

For the sketch of us all, should the pictures be full body or just head shots? I think full body would be cooler because we could all be standing in a group.

like my little message in the bottom right? :D

to the waist, standing in a group.

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 09:32 PM
Ok.

For Hammerhead I'm thinking of a kid storming a classroom with an AK-47, and everyone in the class are going "o my gawd!!111"

Thomas
10-06-2008, 09:55 PM
Ok.

For Hammerhead I'm thinking of a kid storming a classroom with an AK-47, and everyone in the class are going "o my gawd!!111"

eh. Seems too blunt. Not enough subtlety, which is very important in the message of that song.

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Yeah, I still want to work on the idea. It's just what I've come up with so far.

Thomas
10-06-2008, 10:00 PM
Try like a black outline of a guy with his head hanging and a torn up American flag behind him. I dunno. I'm not very creative, but I think something along those lines would be interesting.

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 10:19 PM
Or like, half is the picture you explained, and the other half is a high school kid with a sort of angry look supposed to be a school shooter, like the double meaning of the song.

Thomas
10-06-2008, 10:36 PM
Yeah, I see what you mean. I just think that there has to be a lot of patriotic symbolism throughout the picture, too. Like jets flying in formation or something...

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 10:38 PM
Maybe like, a close up of a soldier in combat, but the other half is a student in the same physical position as the soldier storming a classroom?

Thomas
10-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Or maybe something with that idea, but a sort of TKAA video/Two Face kinda theme... ya know what i mean?


EDIT: OOH! OOH! IDEA IDEA!

So you show a picture of a kid looking at himself in a mirror, but the reflection is of a soldier in combat!

Ryder1234
10-06-2008, 10:59 PM
Is good idea :)
I think we can settle on that.

Thomas
10-06-2008, 11:02 PM
sweeeeeeeet.

lost_nvrfound
10-06-2008, 11:08 PM
i'll need a new concept for allm then. i was gonna use a mirror, but i think i've got another idea. its hard to describe, but you'll see it when i post a rough draft.

-L-
10-07-2008, 01:24 AM
Of course it's ways too empty atm and discoball clearly sucks :D (i just put it as a preview of something that could be added, I'll have to make a new one if it will be needed). It might be a good idea to add disco light rays and walls lol.
I guess, I'm uploading the source files so someone (like -L- ;) )could finish this work.
Here's the link http://www.sendspace.com/file/k0jzpu.[/QUOTE]


Yeeah, I think someone could finish the work, but only at the weekend, because she hasn't got Photoshop at her diggings:D

Free?
10-07-2008, 02:49 AM
-L- , No problem :), I think I'll improve the artwork a bit.

lost, that was almost like 95% exactly what I was trying to draw. I like it better than Gustavo's.

I like the Hammerhead mirror reflection idea. But I think you need to point at that kid's / soldier's stubbornness and seeing only his own version of truth (that would make him a hammerhead). I'll think about it too.

EDIT: The kid is looking at his schoolmates and teachers photo while he's loading a gun and prepearing for tomorrow and in the mirror we see a soldier looking at his war times photo where he's standing smiling on some ruins with fire, smoke and dead bodies around.

Still it doesn't point at hammerheadness accurate enough to me.

lost_nvrfound
10-07-2008, 08:58 AM
lost, that was almost like 95% exactly what I was trying to draw. I like it better than Gustavo's.

sweet! I'll start on a good version then.

Free?
10-07-2008, 09:24 AM
sweet! I'll start on a good version then.

Could you draw the TV like it has bent on one side and soon will fall? A small addition with some big message ;).

lost_nvrfound
10-07-2008, 11:00 AM
Could you draw the TV like it has bent on one side and soon will fall? A small addition with some big message ;).

hmm... we'll see...

Superdope
10-07-2008, 11:56 AM
Grand unveiling:

http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=1249

Simple, but I feel like I'm missing someone. Let me know if I am.

Karin I had a concept for Rock Bottom. It doesn't go with the feel of the song but more with the title:

A student (probably in high school) is walking down a hallway with his hands in his pockets, and his head is hanging down. On the sides of the hallway are students, all laughing and pointing at him.


Me! I'm missing! Put me under the guitars and I'm willing to act like it never happened.... :rolleyes:

Gustavo
10-07-2008, 11:56 AM
Is there anything I can do to help?

Free?
10-07-2008, 04:15 PM
We still need ideas for artworks. And the artworks.

Ryder1234
10-07-2008, 05:33 PM
Me! I'm missing! Put me under the guitars and I'm willing to act like it never happened.... :rolleyes:

Haha oh yeah that's who it was. I actually had you on the first version, but when I saved it it became really bad quality, so when I restarted I guess I forgot you :o

Ryder1234
10-07-2008, 11:50 PM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=1258

Here's the fixed version. :)

-L-
10-08-2008, 12:50 AM
The artwork for Fix you could be a car with an opened heart form engine house, in which a mechanic is tackling. With some cool background of course.

Free?
10-08-2008, 02:59 AM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=1258

Here's the fixed version. :)

I think there should be "covered by" part for every song too. Like Half-Truism covered by: FellDrake (guitar, bass, drums). Maybe even with photos, like you see a song's artwork then turn the page and see covermakers' pics and names on the other side.


The artwork for Fix you could be a car with an opened heart form engine house, in which a mechanic is tackling. With some cool background of course.

It would be cool if someone might put it on paper :p.

Fix You has one of the most difficult artwork's idea for me to come up with. I was thinking about two hearts made like puzzle that miss some pieces, but it's not correct in the end because fixing means to change person not just to put all the broken stuff back together.

Sad guy and girl sitting on the beach watching stars and moonlight, their hearts are stitched, and they don't know what to do.

Damn, I just realized how the official artwork was easy to come up with :p.

-L-
10-08-2008, 04:44 AM
I think there should be "covered by" part for every song too. Like Half-Truism covered by: FellDrake (guitar, bass, drums). Maybe even with photos, like you see a song's artwork then turn the page and see covermakers' pics and names on the other side.



It would be cool if someone might put it on paper :p.

Fix You has one of the most difficult artwork's idea for me to come up with. I was thinking about two hearts made like puzzle that miss some pieces, but it's not correct in the end because fixing means to change person not just to put all the broken stuff back together.

Sad guy and girl sitting on the beach watching stars and moonlight, their hearts are stitched, and they don't know what to do.

Damn, I just realized how the official artwork was easy to come up with :p.

Yeah, the official artwork isn't so difficult:D But I see before myself my idea that I wrote, and it looks very very good, and I could make it cool with photoshop. Please please please somebody draw it!!!!

lost_nvrfound
10-08-2008, 08:50 AM
I think there should be "covered by" part for every song too. Like Half-Truism covered by: FellDrake (guitar, bass, drums). Maybe even with photos, like you see a song's artwork then turn the page and see covermakers' pics and names on the other side.

I don't think we really need the lyrics. So, why don't we just do that? It seems weird if we put the lyrics in the book since they aren't our songs.

Ryder1234
10-08-2008, 09:07 AM
I think there should be "covered by" part for every song too. Like Half-Truism covered by: FellDrake (guitar, bass, drums). Maybe even with photos, like you see a song's artwork then turn the page and see covermakers' pics and names on the other side.

Hmm... well I could do a second page like this:

... apears on:
guitar in ... bass in ...

and do that for everyone.

Free?
10-08-2008, 11:17 AM
I don't think we really need the lyrics. So, why don't we just do that? It seems weird if we put the lyrics in the book since they aren't our songs.

Well yeah, we could do artworks without lyrics. It all started with Trust In You one, there was ways too much empty space, so -L- filled it with lyrics (and done it great!). Do you think it will be a big miss if some of artworks would have lyrics and other wouldn't? To me it seems insignificant. The way -L- placed the lyrics made them more like a part of an artwork than just text.
But yeah, for artworks with many details and without unused space lyrics would be more like a loss than a gain. I'd say artworks may contain or not contain lyrics, depends on our judgment.

Next version of YGGFK
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/YGGFK3preview.jpg

Do we really need an american flag there? The song isn't about some certain person/country, however it may be interpreted as it's about Bush. And The official artwork points at US government as well.

-L- the latest version of YGGFK is here http://www.sendspace.com/file/xgsyi0 (check curtain layers (I've messed the dark red one so I've made another, not colored one, to replace) and fucker layers (again, the original one was a bit messed with american flag (you'll see what I mean :p) but both of them look fine together as they are placed)). Also feel free to fix / remove / add anything you'd want (like discoball). I'm leaving it all up to you :p.

EDIT:

The artwork for Fix you could be a car with an opened heart form engine house, in which a mechanic is tackling. With some cool background of course.


Yeah, the official artwork isn't so difficult:D But I see before myself my idea that I wrote, and it looks very very good, and I could make it cool with photoshop. Please please please somebody draw it!!!!

-L-, I can't see exactly how the car/ mechanic should be placed / positioned, could u draw a sketch (it's okay if it'll be just lines and circles) how it should look? :]

Stylie
10-08-2008, 02:03 PM
We still need ideas for artworks. And the artworks.

Yeaaah. Well, I'm just too lazy right now (:-/), so I haven't done anything yet. We'll see. Something special I maybe could work on, or should I just draw what I come up with?


I like the Hammerhead mirror reflection idea. But I think you need to point at that kid's / soldier's stubbornness and seeing only his own version of truth (that would make him a hammerhead). I'll think about it too.

EDIT: The kid is looking at his schoolmates and teachers photo while he's loading a gun and prepearing for tomorrow and in the mirror we see a soldier looking at his war times photo where he's standing smiling on some ruins with fire, smoke and dead bodies around.

Just wanted to say that I really like this idea. ^^

Free?
10-08-2008, 03:20 PM
Yeaaah. Well, I'm just too lazy right now (:-/), so I haven't done anything yet. We'll see. Something special I maybe could work on, or should I just draw what I come up with?



Just wanted to say that I really like this idea. ^^

Nice to see your opinion here. You might draw a rough sketch of an artwork you've came up with, however make sure that it isn't done / taken by someone else. And we are always glad to see fresh artwork ideas from everyone.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Half-Truism
2. Trust In You (DONE)
3. You're Gonna Go Far, Kid (soon will be done)
4. Hammerhead (kinda have the idea, artist needed)
5. A Lot Like Me (lost is working on it)
6. Takes Me Nowhere
7. Kristy, Are You Doing Okay? (lost is working on it)
8. Nothingtown
9. Stuff Is Messed Up (lost is working on it)
10. Fix You (-L- has the idea, more specific info needed, artist needed too)
11. Let's Hear It For Rock Bottom (lost is working on it)
12. Rise And Fall
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ryder1234
10-08-2008, 06:21 PM
We have a concept for Rock Bottom too. Karin's working on it.

Gustavo
10-08-2008, 06:42 PM
You guys don't want digital draws anymore?
Like the ones I made in Corel Draw.

lost_nvrfound
10-08-2008, 11:13 PM
well, free?'s pictures are digital. There is nothing wrong with it. Give another song a shot. I'm working on SIMU, ALLM, Kristy, and Rock Bottom (fuck thats a lot. i didn't realize it had gotten to be that many). was there another? I know there is an idea for Hammerhead, but i'm not going to do it. at least not until i finish the others. You can give it a shot if you like. You just need to be sure to use all original stuff.

and to free?, scratch what i said before. the concept I have for allm won't look good without the lyrics.

Here is what SIMU looks like right now. I couldn't get the tv to look decent with it starting to fall, so here is what i've got so far. I've played with it a bit in photoshop just to make it a little easier to see. I plan on adding in a lot more with shading and dramatic explodey lines so that it won't look so silly. and then i'll worry with color.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/DSC01122.jpg

Ryder1234
10-08-2008, 11:27 PM
Thumbs up @ the McDonalds cup :D

Free?
10-09-2008, 03:38 AM
SIMU looks good to me. It has been changed slightly, but as an artwork it looks fine.
Gustavo, sorry, but lost's artwork looks much better than yours, I can't say another artwork's idea that you could draw better (like you did with baby angel), all the concepts so far are pretty complicated. So yeah, give another artwork a try if you want.

-L-
10-09-2008, 06:21 AM
I like the YGGFK and the SIMU arts, and at the weekend I will do something with the YGGFK art. So do you think, we could do artworks without lyrics?
If we decide that we need no lyrics on the artworks, I can remove the text from the Trust in you art, and put something else to it's place.


Sorry Free?, I can't draw my Fix you idea, because I can draw nothing, I'm lame from drawing:(
But if I have somebody who can draw it, I will show it to you:)

Free?
10-09-2008, 07:07 AM
I like the YGGFK and the SIMU arts, and at the weekend I will do something with the YGGFK art. So do you think, we could do artworks without lyrics?
If we decide that we need no lyrics on the artworks, I can remove the text from the Trust in you art, and put something else to it's place.


Sorry Free?, I can't draw my Fix you idea, because I can draw nothing, I'm lame from drawing:(
But if I have somebody who can draw it, I will show it to you:)

Hey, you got it a bit wrong. We make artworks with lyrics if the lyrics are nice addition to the picture (like Trust In You)and we don't insert lyrics if the picture is already good without them (like SIMU).

Here is how I see your Fix You idea :D

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/fixyou.jpg

-L-
10-09-2008, 07:32 AM
OK, I understand:D

Thank you Free?, but unfortunetly no, my Fix you idea isn't like your art. This is because I can't speak English, and can't put it into words what I wanna say.
It doesn't matter, I'll try to make somebody sketch it. :D

Gustavo
10-09-2008, 09:38 AM
SIMU looks good to me. It has been changed slightly, but as an artwork it looks fine.
Gustavo, sorry, but lost's artwork looks much better than yours, I can't say another artwork's idea that you could draw better (like you did with baby angel), all the concepts so far are pretty complicated. So yeah, give another artwork a try if you want.

Oh, ok. No problem :)
Have you decided which baby-angel-cover you want to use?

Free?
10-09-2008, 11:24 AM
Oh, ok. No problem :)
Have you decided which baby-angel-cover do you want to use?

What he said.

Attention everybody! please vote, which baby we should use?
1 (http://i37.tinypic.com/68dapx.jpg) 2 (http://i35.tinypic.com/2j0e4bs.jpg) 3 (http://i34.tinypic.com/nbek9y.jpg) 4 (http://i38.tinypic.com/14socj7.jpg)
I like 3 and 4, really doesn't matter if it'll be one or another, but if I'd have to I'd chose 4 because I think baby's wings shouldn't be bigger than adult's wings :).

lost_nvrfound
10-09-2008, 11:52 AM
What he said.

Attention everybody! please vote, which baby we should use?
1 (http://i37.tinypic.com/68dapx.jpg) 2 (http://i35.tinypic.com/2j0e4bs.jpg) 3 (http://i34.tinypic.com/nbek9y.jpg) 4 (http://i38.tinypic.com/14socj7.jpg)
I like 3 and 4, really doesn't matter if it'll be one or another, but if I'd have to I'd chose 4 because I think baby's wings shouldn't be bigger than adult's wings :).

I agree. I think the bigger wings overwhelm the critter attached to them. so I vote for 4

Thomas
10-09-2008, 12:22 PM
Yeah, I definitely vote for 4.

-L-
10-09-2008, 01:46 PM
Me too. 4 is better than the others.

Stylie
10-09-2008, 03:17 PM
I vote for 3, 'caus it fill the picture much more, looks better. But I'm okay with the 4th too...

...the wings maybe symbolise that you don't give up, but keep on "fighting" and have hope - and we do that, just like The Offspring (another reason for beeing just as big as the original). Then, the baby is smaller again 'caus it's symbolising us, the younger people that cover RAFRAG...

...uhm, well. Sorry if that was stupid. As said, it's okay to choose the 4th, but I'll vote for the 3rd. ^^

lost_nvrfound
10-09-2008, 10:34 PM
I vote for 3, 'caus it fill the picture much more, looks better. But I'm okay with the 4th too...

...the wings maybe symbolise that you don't give up, but keep on "fighting" and have hope - and we do that, just like The Offspring (another reason for beeing just as big as the original). Then, the baby is smaller again 'caus it's symbolising us, the younger people that cover RAFRAG...

...uhm, well. Sorry if that was stupid. As said, it's okay to choose the 4th, but I'll vote for the 3rd. ^^

You're supposed to vote for the one you like the most, so more power to you for choosing 3.

I still like 4 myself, but I'm glad its no longer totally unanimous

Ryder1234
10-09-2008, 11:36 PM
I never really liked the baby angel idea, but I say 3.

Sofinch
10-11-2008, 06:37 AM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1270
Image became a little bit more unsharp with uploading it
hope U like it :)

Free?
10-11-2008, 08:50 AM
I like it. Could you please explain what does it mean? I have certain ideas about it's interpretation and where it could be used, but I'll tell them only after you, Sofinch. :p
Also, it will need some photoshop editing, but I'd like to hear your meaning of that artwork first.

Sofinch
10-11-2008, 09:04 AM
I like it. Could you please explain what does it mean? I have certain ideas about it's interpretation and where it could be used, but I'll tell them only after you, Sofinch. :p
Also, it will need some photoshop editing, but I'd like to hear your meaning of that artwork first.

I don't have photoshop :)
Well it's a little bit like the angel from RAFRAG
I was watching an Offspring picture on my school-diary and I saw Noodles' T-shirt
http://www.seatwave.com/FileStore/SEASON/IMAGE/the-offspring_003027_1_MainPicture.jpg
and it made me think on the Trust In You arms in the booklet from RAFRAG
so I made "my" fist looking like the angel from RAFRAG

wings - wants to fly , to be free
arrow - but gets stopped by the crowd
fist - but stays strong

now back to the studio - Free?

Free?
10-11-2008, 09:47 AM
Heeey, very nice! That was same explanation as mine. The message i see there is "stay strong, be yourself, don't let others tell you how to live, rise, life is now". Basically, I get the same message from Half-Truism. So I see it like Half-Truism's artwork!

I could edit it, but I'd like to ask -L- first, maybe she will do it better (I think there's not much to edit anyway).

lost_nvrfound
10-11-2008, 09:55 AM
Sofinch, could you ink it some? Like color the major lines with ink so that its easier to clean up in photoshop?

it seems weird, but you lose so much in photoshop with out the ink to make parts of it sharper.

Sofinch
10-11-2008, 12:47 PM
Sofinch, could you ink it some? Like color the major lines with ink so that its easier to clean up in photoshop?

it seems weird, but you lose so much in photoshop with out the ink to make parts of it sharper.

yes of course! but you will propably have it back a little later
I hope that doesn't bother you?

lost_nvrfound
10-11-2008, 01:27 PM
yes of course! but you will propably have it back a little later
I hope that doesn't bother you?
thats fine. I probably won't be able to do it for a bit anyway.

I've been playing in photoshop with my picture. Let me know what you think.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/SIMUcopy.jpg

-L-
10-11-2008, 01:55 PM
thats fine. I probably won't be able to do it for a bit anyway.

I've been playing in photoshop with my picture. Let me know what you think.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/SIMUcopy.jpg



Woooooow

It's awesome:D

I'm ready now with the YGGF,K artwork, I will post it now. Just a few minute.:)

Rutegard
10-11-2008, 01:58 PM
thats fine. I probably won't be able to do it for a bit anyway.

I've been playing in photoshop with my picture. Let me know what you think.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/SIMUcopy.jpg

i love it :D

-L-
10-11-2008, 01:58 PM
This is it!




http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/YGGFKksz.jpg

Rutegard
10-11-2008, 01:59 PM
This is it!




http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/YGGFKksz.jpg

AAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww

i think it's AWESOME

totally captures the meaning of the song!!

U DID IT :D

I lOVE IT!!!

5 stars!!

lost_nvrfound
10-11-2008, 02:05 PM
AWESOME! You really made it look AMAZING! hehe.. so political.. all those dancing politicians that decide our fate...

Now I have Americana playing in my head. :D

-L-
10-11-2008, 02:28 PM
:D Thank youu:D And also thanks to Free? for the idea and the art:)

Rutegard
10-11-2008, 02:34 PM
:D Thank youu:D And also thanks to Free? for the idea and the art:)

you guys are a great team :D

-L-
10-11-2008, 03:07 PM
you guys are a great team :D

Yeah :D Free?, me and the Photoshop:D

Free?
10-12-2008, 06:17 AM
I'd like to say that it's an awesome feeling to work with such talented ladies *blinks to lost and L*. :rolleyes:

Sofinch
10-12-2008, 06:24 AM
thats fine. I probably won't be able to do it for a bit anyway.

I've been playing in photoshop with my picture. Let me know what you think.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/SIMUcopy.jpg

Oooooooooooh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!! that's awesome!!
I like it!!!
I wish I could draw with the computer :D

lost_nvrfound
10-12-2008, 09:41 AM
Thanks a lot sofinch! I rather enjoyed myself. I don't know much about photoshop, but i learned a new trick yesterday on how to get the fading like that.:D


I'd like to say that it's an awesome feeling to work with such talented ladies *blinks to lost and L*. :rolleyes:
*blushes* aww free?... :o

Gustavo
10-13-2008, 07:27 AM
Ok, first of all, congratulations Lost (By the way, is your name Karin? :confused: if so, may I call you like that?) and -L-, your drawings look great.
Well, I had a sort of an idea for Half Truism, I might try to draw it by hand or in corel draw. I thought that maybe we could draw a soldier in a field, with a hurricaine, and a sort of "baloon of thinking" showing his baby, and maybe something that retracts religion, like... maybe a priest or something. And then money coming down from heaven...
I know it's such a crazy idea, but I sort of had it all done in my mind, and I think it would be cool. Don't know if you guys got it... But anyway... :P

Free?
10-13-2008, 07:59 AM
Gustavo, reading your Half-Truism concept made me want to ask you one thing. What do you think Half-Truism is about? :)

I believe that Half-Truism is about staying strong, keeping individuality, denying to accept something just because majority tells you to, living with today. A self-liberation anthem.

I think it would be interesting to tell our personal meanings of songs before we start to make artworks for them. Some songs are pretty obvious, some are quite misty (for me it's Rock Bottom and Rise And Fall).

Rutegard
10-13-2008, 08:34 AM
Gustavo, reading your Half-Truism concept made me want to ask you one thing. What do you think Half-Truism is about? :)

I believe that Half-Truism is about staying strong, keeping individuality, denying to accept something just because majority tells you to, living with today. A self-liberation anthem.

I think it would be interesting to tell our personal meanings of songs before we start to make artworks for them. Some songs are pretty obvious, some are quite misty (for me it's Rock Bottom and Rise And Fall).

yeah
for example...
rock bottom for me is about drugs

:p :)

Sofinch
10-13-2008, 09:57 AM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1309
I hope it's better :D
sorry for the bad photoquality but my webcam is also my digital camera:d

lost_nvrfound
10-13-2008, 10:48 AM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1309
I hope it's better :D
sorry for the bad photoquality but my webcam is also my digital camera:d

do you not have a scanner available to you?

oh and it is much better. :D

Sofinch
10-13-2008, 11:02 AM
do you not have a scanner available to you?

oh and it is much better. :D

Well we had but how can I say it "It passed away" :p

lost_nvrfound
10-13-2008, 11:09 AM
hmm... this could present some difficulties. Do you know anyone who would let you use theirs?

Nice avator bye the way. :D

Sofinch
10-13-2008, 11:12 AM
hmm... this could present some difficulties. Do you know anyone who would let you use theirs?

Nice avator bye the way. :D

Tnx not immediately
but I'll try to find a solution :D
my neighbourhoud is quiet primitive :p
fields, farmers, vineyards, orchards everywhere, welcome to Tielt-Winge :D

lost_nvrfound
10-13-2008, 11:28 AM
Tnx not immediately
but I'll try to find a solution :D
my neighbourhoud is quiet primitive :p
fields, farmers, vineyards, orchards everywhere, welcome to Tielt-Winge :D

haha. alright. theres not much that can be done with such a tiny picture of it. So I suppose it'll need to wait until there is a scanner available.

Free?
10-13-2008, 01:03 PM
I've tried to edit Sofinch's artwork.

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/half-truism.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/half-truism3.jpg
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/half-truism4.jpg

Do you see anything useful there?

lost_nvrfound
10-13-2008, 01:17 PM
not bad considering how small the picture was. Thats mostly the problem. Looks cool though

Superdope
10-13-2008, 01:18 PM
Gustavo, reading your Half-Truism concept made me want to ask you one thing. What do you think Half-Truism is about? :)

I believe that Half-Truism is about staying strong, keeping individuality, denying to accept something just because majority tells you to, living with today. A self-liberation anthem.

I think it would be interesting to tell our personal meanings of songs before we start to make artworks for them. Some songs are pretty obvious, some are quite misty (for me it's Rock Bottom and Rise And Fall).

I think I remember Dexter saying, that Rock Bottom was about going nowhere in life, and being perfectly fine with it.

Sort of a reverse Nothingtown, if you prefer.

Gustavo
10-13-2008, 01:32 PM
Gustavo, reading your Half-Truism concept made me want to ask you one thing. What do you think Half-Truism is about? :)

I believe that Half-Truism is about staying strong, keeping individuality, denying to accept something just because majority tells you to, living with today. A self-liberation anthem.

I think it would be interesting to tell our personal meanings of songs before we start to make artworks for them. Some songs are pretty obvious, some are quite misty (for me it's Rock Bottom and Rise And Fall).

Ok, the first thought that crossed into my mind when I started interpretating Half Truism was "La Revolucion", as Ernesto Che Guevara would say.
I believe that they wanted to talk about the revolution or maybe even war.
The booklet original artwork for Half Truism sort of shows it. For me, that guy wearing a mask represents the revolution, or maybe even anarchy.
Some lines in the lyrics for me, show it.
Like, "One is for envy and one just for spite", for example... Could mean that someone goes to the revolution or to the war because of spite or envy.
And specially the part "You’ll make it better"... And, of course, "The banner you’re waving, is burning and red"... Everybody knows that Red symbolyzes socialism, it made me think that maybe the song is about the cold war (Which I believe that is the subject for the song "Conspiracy Of One"), maybe the song is about the comunists or socialists during the World War II.

Rutegard
10-14-2008, 04:40 AM
Ok, the first thought that crossed into my mind when I started interpretating Half Truism was "La Revolucion", as Ernesto Che Guevara would say.
I believe that they wanted to talk about the revolution or maybe even war.
The booklet original artwork for Half Truism sort of shows it. For me, that guy wearing a mask represents the revolution, or maybe even anarchy.
Some lines in the lyrics for me, show it.
Like, "One is for envy and one just for spite", for example... Could mean that someone goes to the revolution or to the war because of spite or envy.
And specially the part "You’ll make it better"... And, of course, "The banner you’re waving, is burning and red"... Everybody knows that Red symbolyzes socialism, it made me think that maybe the song is about the cold war (Which I believe that is the subject for the song "Conspiracy Of One"), maybe the song is about the comunists or socialists during the World War II.

red color could also represent the blood, blood shed, i always remember this cause of the portuguese flag :p

the red has nothing to do with political views, but with all the blood that was lost.....

Gustavo
10-14-2008, 07:45 AM
red color could also represent the blood, blood shed, i always remember this cause of the portuguese flag :p

the red has nothing to do with political views, but with all the blood that was lost.....

Yeah, it could be that too.

Free?
10-14-2008, 08:01 AM
I started a Half-Truism meaning thread in GOD. :rolleyes: Hopefully, we'll figure out, what exactly that song is about. I'm still pretty sure that my explanation was correct, but if you put a revolutionary theme it kinda makes sense too.

I would like us to make correct artworks for all the songs. :rolleyes:

Oh, and Superdope, thanks, what you said about Rock Bottom makes perfect sense! I don't doubt anymore.

Gustavo
10-14-2008, 08:19 AM
I started a Half-Truism meaning thread in GOD. :rolleyes: Hopefully, we'll figure out, what exactly that song is about. I'm still pretty sure that my explanation was correct, but if you put a revolutionary theme it kinda makes sense too.

I would like us to make correct artworks for all the songs. :rolleyes:

Oh, and Superdope, thanks, what you said about Rock Bottom makes perfect sense! I don't doubt anymore.

Thread repplied :D
But, anyway... some of the Offspring's songs are always confusing, and there might be a lot of explanations for the songs.
We'll see what happens...

Anka
10-15-2008, 11:36 AM
do you have any ideas of Nothingtown or Rise and fall artworks yet? because I have one...

-L-
10-15-2008, 01:23 PM
do you have any ideas of Nothingtown or Rise and fall artworks yet? because I have one...

I think we haven't got any yet. What is your idea?

Anka
10-15-2008, 01:40 PM
I dont know if I will describe it correctly, but I will try:
a brief sketch of Nothingtown (I was drawing it at the bad while falling asleep, so sorry for the quality of "drawing" and photo):
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7065/snmka045ok9.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snmka045ok9.jpg)

and Rise and fall, I have just though of spider in a bathtub and people gathered around and staring at it and one of them having the hand on a tap ready to flush the spider away... (I really have no idea why it came to my mind this way)

Stylie
10-15-2008, 02:45 PM
Much, much great artwork here. Especially the two "finished" ones, SIMU and YGGF,K? Nice.
I haven't done anything yet, because I just don't have the time and energy because of school. But of course, I'll keep it in mind. ^^

Kepp up the good work guys.

Free?
10-15-2008, 04:01 PM
I dont know if I will describe it correctly, but I will try:
a brief sketch of Nothingtown (I was drawing it at the bad while falling asleep, so sorry for the quality of "drawing" and photo):
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7065/snmka045ok9.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snmka045ok9.jpg)

and Rise and fall, I have just though of spider in a bathtub and people gathered around and staring at it and one of them having the hand on a tap ready to flush the spider away... (I really have no idea why it came to my mind this way)

I don't quite understand the Nothingtown idea, it looks like a place between city and a village to me :). The spider idea sounds fun, but I think we better have explanations for all the artworks we do. So, what are your artworks' meanings, Anka?

Tijs
10-15-2008, 07:20 PM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=176&pictureid=1309
I hope it's better :D
sorry for the bad photoquality but my webcam is also my digital camera:d

I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to make my debut in this project using your (awesome) drawing:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8274/halftruismre1.jpg

Thomas
10-15-2008, 07:38 PM
http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/thumb.gif

Ryder1234
10-15-2008, 07:40 PM
Very nice Tijs! :)

Motacos
10-15-2008, 10:21 PM
I really like that one. Great job, Tijs! I like how you developed Sofinch's original artwork.
And kudos to Sofinch for the great idea, too:)

I just did this a few days ago.
I did it just for fun, not for this project but I thought I'd post it here.
Anything might be found useful...so:D
http://img01.pipa.jp/tegaki/user_img/12161/1216135477961632.png

lost_nvrfound
10-15-2008, 10:34 PM
OH MAN TIJS! Wicked cool! Fan-damn-tastic! *more compliments*

jacknife737
10-15-2008, 10:50 PM
Wow, nice job Tijs!

Free?
10-16-2008, 03:05 AM
Tijs, awesome, pretty much like i've imagined it'll be!
Motacos, the idea of one person taking another somewhere else with lighter shining through the darkness was something that I've failed to draw. Great! ;)

Static_Martyr
10-16-2008, 03:15 AM
You guys keep making me jealous with your damned-fantastic artwork. I suck at artwork :(

But yeah, kickass!

-L-
10-16-2008, 03:52 AM
I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to make my debut in this project using your (awesome) drawing:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8274/halftruismre1.jpg



WooooooW congratulation Tijs!!! It's awesome!

Tijs
10-16-2008, 06:24 AM
Glad you all like it :) I'd like to do more, too!

Gustavo
10-16-2008, 10:49 AM
I hope you don't mind, but I'd like to make my debut in this project using your (awesome) drawing:

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8274/halftruismre1.jpg

Congratulations, Tijs!
I didn't know you were this good at artworks...

Gustavo
10-16-2008, 12:25 PM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9516/coverdonern0.jpg
So, what do you guys think?

Anka
10-16-2008, 12:59 PM
I don't quite understand the Nothingtown idea, it looks like a place between city and a village to me :). The spider idea sounds fun, but I think we better have explanations for all the artworks we do. So, what are your artworks' meanings, Anka?

nothgintown: the idea is that everybody tries to escape from where they are, it doesnt matter if they are in a city or village- for them everything sucks...so both are going out of their "hometowns" with you. but as you can see (maybe) on the road behind they are going back... so simply my idea is that people are trying to get away from where they are and are never satisfied.

and with the spider, it just came to my mind during the line "theyve come to see you rise and fall". because when you imagine how the spider behaves in bath, he actually is rising and then falling. and many people then finally flush the spider away, not save him. so thats "theyre only tearing down your walls" or "this time youre really dead"

Free?
10-16-2008, 03:51 PM
2Anka.
Haha, spider in a bath rising and falling IS funny! It could be a great idea, however there is one "but". The only problem about RAF artwork is that I actually can't say exactly, what about that song is. I can't say that I ehm.. approve an artwork if I don't know final meaning of song. Can anybody help me with an explanation?

Nothingtown. That was a good enough explanation, I got the point. I have a feeling that it still lacks something. I can't see that those guys aren't satisfied with their places so they are moving away. It's difficult to say, what kind of details should be added to point at those things. But so far I see there only man riding horse and a car.
I must add that I like Motacos' Nothingtown artwork better too.
But it's great to see you trying to help us! ;)

2Gustavo. Me likes, me approves.

2Everyone else. I said what I think, now it's your turn! :)\o/

Superdope
10-16-2008, 03:57 PM
2Anka.
Haha, spider in a bath rising and falling IS funny! It could be a great idea, however there is one "but". The only problem about RAF artwork is that I actually can't say exactly, what about that song is. I can't say that I ehm.. approve an artwork if I don't know final meaning of song. Can anybody help me with an explanation?

Nothingtown. That was a good enough explanation, I got the point. I have a feeling that it still lacks something. I can't see that those guys aren't satisfied with their places so they are moving away. It's difficult to say, what kind of details should be added to point at those things. But so far I see there only man riding horse and a car.
I must add that I like Motacos' Nothingtown artwork better too.
But it's great to see you trying to help us! ;)

2Gustavo. Me likes, me approves.

2Everyone else. I said what I think, now it's your turn! :)\o/


I think that Nothingtown should be a picture from above, like, taken from a plane. in the picture we see this small town, maybe just a couple of buildings down a single road. at the end of the town the road veers off into two different directions, only these directions lead straight back to the town, like a loop.

Did that make any sense? Sort of a town you can't leave. By car anyway...

EDIT: oh, and we can have a text on it, reading Wish you were here! like if it was a postcard. except the town needs to be really depressingly boring.

Gustavo
10-16-2008, 04:04 PM
2Anka.
Haha, spider in a bath rising and falling IS funny! It could be a great idea, however there is one "but". The only problem about RAF artwork is that I actually can't say exactly, what about that song is. I can't say that I ehm.. approve an artwork if I don't know final meaning of song. Can anybody help me with an explanation?

Nothingtown. That was a good enough explanation, I got the point. I have a feeling that it still lacks something. I can't see that those guys aren't satisfied with their places so they are moving away. It's difficult to say, what kind of details should be added to point at those things. But so far I see there only man riding horse and a car.
I must add that I like Motacos' Nothingtown artwork better too.
But it's great to see you trying to help us! ;)

2Gustavo. Me likes, me approves.

2Everyone else. I said what I think, now it's your turn! :)\o/

Yep, I'm glad you liked it, Sir.

Well, about the Nothingtown thing, I've always pictured Nothingtown in my head like this... You know those balls that are attached to chains that are usually attached to prisoners? I guess it's quite used in TV Cartoons... Anyway, I think we should create a sort of a miniature of a city, with lots of buildings, parks and stuff... From an horizontal view... And then there would be someone attached to one of these "balls" and trying to escape from the city, he can't though.
"Still stuck in nothingtown"

EDIT: For those of you who didn't get what I was trying to say due to my awful English, it's sort of like this: http://blog.sweetestmemories.com/pix/Ball-n-chain-guy_ball.jpg ... But, of course, we wouldn't use this very same guy, we'd use a different one :P

lost_nvrfound
10-16-2008, 04:45 PM
Free?, the problem is that there is no definite meaning for these songs. You are supposed to come up with your own interpretation of it. That is the point of art. Its not what the artist meant to say with it thats important. Its what you get out of it that matters

and iGustavo, I really like it. I especially like the black and white. Pretty fantastic.

Gustavo
10-16-2008, 05:02 PM
Free?, the problem is that there is no definite meaning for these songs. You are supposed to come up with your own interpretation of it. That is the point of art. Its not what the artist meant to say with it thats important. Its what you get out of it that matters

and iGustavo, I really like it. I especially like the black and white. Pretty fantastic.

Cool, are you gonna draw it?

Free?
10-16-2008, 07:22 PM
Free?, the problem is that there is no definite meaning for these songs. You are supposed to come up with your own interpretation of it. That is the point of art. Its not what the artist meant to say with it thats important. Its what you get out of it that matters

and iGustavo, I really like it. I especially like the black and white. Pretty fantastic.

Rise and Fall is so full of cliche's, I can't get what Dexter meant. To me it seems to be about let's say a person (like politician or a celebrity) who was raised by someone else, but he was sure that his success was mainly thanks to his own merits and now he's left alone without support and falling. But I'm almost sure that I'm wrong with my guessing. Even more confusion comes with the official artwork with a heart stabbed with 2 arrows. Gah... I definitely need some help with that! I'm sure that there is a definite meaning after all, I just can't find it.
Same thing was with Rock Bottom until Superdope told me it's meaning in few words and I'm absolutely happy about it.

I'm afraid that we'll end up with something very simple and ways too obvious. Something that rises and falls at the same time. What I don't like about such artwork - the idea will be based only on song's title, it's not even necessary to listen the song to produce such artwork. I would feel ways much better if the artwork will actually explain what is the song about. You know, if Dexter will happen to take a look at that artwork, he should see what we got from the song, not just a bungee jumping guy or something simple like that. Not after mysterious official stabbed heart artwork. I hope you'll be able to understand what I was trying to say :).


I'm glad to see some fresh ideas. They are pretty much about the same, they all are fine. A place that is impossible to leave.

What do you think about my next idea...? You see a guy (or girl) that is giving you a hand, in the other hand he holds a lighter (of course ;)) and is calling you to come with him. "Still stuck in Nothingtown? Come on, let's go!" So it's up to you, will you grab his hand and try change things or not.

That concept is quite similar to what Motacos drawn, only with a little twist.
Something like that, so you can get the idea.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/2571164193_80bf27a2b6.jpg

But I like your concepts as well, they will do fine.
Oh, and Anka's / Superdope's versions of Nothingtown kinda remind me of what "Takes Me Nowhere" artwork might be. I'll post my takes me nowhere idea later, this wall of text has grown too high. :)

lost_nvrfound
10-16-2008, 07:39 PM
What I get from Rise and Fall is that you can be doing well, be successful and all that, but there are people who will want nothing more than to see everything in your life crumble and for you to fall flat on your ass. Everyone says they want you to be happy, but they'd also like to see you mess up or watch your life fall apart, because that way they will be happier than you.

I don't know how one would convey that in a picture, but I've got some ideas. I'm starting to have a hard time following this thread. Oh, and I've started the ALLM drawing. I'll upload it

lost_nvrfound
10-16-2008, 07:47 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/Photo148.jpg

Does anybody want to make it amazing for me? Someone who is better with photoshop than I am. The same question for SIMU. I didn't do a very good job with it.

Ryder1234
10-16-2008, 08:12 PM
I think the RAF artwork should contain a reference to Green Day. Cause it's totally about them :rolleyes::D

lost_nvrfound
10-16-2008, 08:14 PM
I think the RAF artwork should contain a reference to Green Day. Cause it's totally about them :rolleyes::D

HAHAHA! :eek: The truth is astonishing! :p

Gustavo
10-16-2008, 08:47 PM
Rise and Fall is so full of cliche's, I can't get what Dexter meant. To me it seems to be about let's say a person (like politician or a celebrity) who was raised by someone else, but he was sure that his success was mainly thanks to his own merits and now he's left alone without support and falling. But I'm almost sure that I'm wrong with my guessing. Even more confusion comes with the official artwork with a heart stabbed with 2 arrows. Gah... I definitely need some help with that! I'm sure that there is a definite meaning after all, I just can't find it.
Same thing was with Rock Bottom until Superdope told me it's meaning in few words and I'm absolutely happy about it.

I'm afraid that we'll end up with something very simple and ways too obvious. Something that rises and falls at the same time. What I don't like about such artwork - the idea will be based only on song's title, it's not even necessary to listen the song to produce such artwork. I would feel ways much better if the artwork will actually explain what is the song about. You know, if Dexter will happen to take a look at that artwork, he should see what we got from the song, not just a bungee jumping guy or something simple like that. Not after mysterious official stabbed heart artwork. I hope you'll be able to understand what I was trying to say :).


I'm glad to see some fresh ideas. They are pretty much about the same, they all are fine. A place that is impossible to leave.

What do you think about my next idea...? You see a guy (or girl) that is giving you a hand, in the other hand he holds a lighter (of course ;)) and is calling you to come with him. "Still stuck in Nothingtown? Come on, let's go!" So it's up to you, will you grab his hand and try change things or not.

That concept is quite similar to what Motacos drawn, only with a little twist.
Something like that, so you can get the idea.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/2571164193_80bf27a2b6.jpg

But I like your concepts as well, they will do fine.
Oh, and Anka's / Superdope's versions of Nothingtown kinda remind me of what "Takes Me Nowhere" artwork might be. I'll post my takes me nowhere idea later, this wall of text has grown too high. :)

I have alaways thought that Rise And Fall, Rage And Grace is an album that might be differently interpreted and understood.
There are a lot of ways for us to define it... Even its booklet is a little bit confusing, for me, mostly the songs are about mistakes and success, wining and losing... and in an oddly, about not forgetting the past and keep on living what's gone (Which got me thinking that Dexter hasn't archieved the goal of the Can't Repeat's main message, if he actually got to live what the lyrics are about), which can easily be seen in songs like A Lot Like Me and Nothingtown. But I stand for my opinion on Half Truism, I still do believe it's about a revolutionary scene, I believe the song is sort of linked to Conspiracy Of One's scene. And of course, let's not forget about the 'loving' part, that can be noticed in songs like Fix You and A Lot Like Me.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but even the band members have said that they do not pick up a day to write lyrics, it's not an album to be a sort of an history told on a CD. As Noodles said in that enjoyable interview with 93.3 WMMR, Dexter not always came up with the whole lyrics into the studio, sometimes he just came up with some parts, or sometimes he really did come up with some completed ones.

I don't believe they want to follow a specific topic, I believe that when they're doing their albums, and specially when Dexter is writing the songs, everything goes out naturally. Which I believe that's good, if they had chosen to follow a specific topic and not to go out of it, they'd have been so restricted, and I don't think that the album would be as good as it is.

So, I don't think there's a 'conspiracy' behind the songs, it's not always that the songs are linked to other songs, there might happen to be some songs that are not linked to another one (even though it's an 'album partner' song), but there might be these occasions where a song might be linked or related to another one, and it might happen with 'album parteners' song or not.

Well, that's MY opinion, just for you guys to know...

Gustavo
10-16-2008, 08:50 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/Photo148.jpg

Does anybody want to make it amazing for me? Someone who is better with photoshop than I am. The same question for SIMU. I didn't do a very good job with it.

OMG! I'm impressed. That's exactly how I've pictured it in my mind, I was actually going to try to describe it. In my opinion, you couldn't have done it better!
Congratulations, and please, keep on impressing me with these awesome artworks of yours!

Ryder1234
10-16-2008, 09:01 PM
HAHAHA! :eek: The truth is astonishing! :p

Yep. It's truth:

American Idiot and RAFRAG have the same color scheme.

American Idiot = First on the album. RAF = Last on the album.

AI and RAF have similar artworks.

The lyrics to RAF seem to talk about Green Day "You thought you'd rise above it all/I told you so" etc.

:eek:

randman21
10-17-2008, 04:49 AM
I really like that one. Great job, Tijs! I like how you developed Sofinch's original artwork.
And kudos to Sofinch for the great idea, too:)

I just did this a few days ago.
I did it just for fun, not for this project but I thought I'd post it here.
Anything might be found useful...so:D
http://img01.pipa.jp/tegaki/user_img/12161/1216135477961632.png
I just wanted to show some love for this. I love it! I've always pictured them on a motorcycle during the part that this drawing depicts (although I know a lighter wouldn't withstand it).

Free?
10-17-2008, 04:51 AM
Gustavo, I was talking about Rise And Fall song, not the album. :) I kinda get the whole concept of RAFRAG, but some songs still have some unclear moments.

And yes, I avoided mentioning Green Day, but I see it too.

lost, I like your artworks as they are, nothing's wrong with them being "cartooney", that's so offspring-ish. And looking at ALLM one made me think about that you could draw Kristy ;).
Also, seems like mirrors - reflections - shadows will unavoidably be in several artworks. Like Trust In You, ALLM and current version of Hammerhead. Hm... I think we should change HH idea... Ehh.

Conspiracyof1000
10-17-2008, 05:16 AM
I just did this a few days ago.
I did it just for fun, not for this project but I thought I'd post it here.
Anything might be found useful...so:D
http://img01.pipa.jp/tegaki/user_img/12161/1216135477961632.png

I love this! It reminds me of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, which is one of my favorite games. It's just so great. I love the lighting, I can't draw like that. :D

lost_nvrfound
10-17-2008, 05:44 AM
lost, I like your artworks as they are, nothing's wrong with them being "cartooney", that's so offspring-ish. And looking at ALLM one made me think about that you could draw Kristy ;).
Also, seems like mirrors - reflections - shadows will unavoidably be in several artworks. Like Trust In You, ALLM and current version of Hammerhead. Hm... I think we should change HH idea... Ehh.

haha. thanks.

Its funny because cartooney is not usually my style (I actually have developed really distinct styles according to former classmates in my art classes), but since I am drawing from head, it makes it hard to go the realistic route.

However, I am still waiting on pictures for the group picture. Just send them in PMs to avoid cluttering this thread further and to avoid cluttering up my VM board.

Tijs
10-17-2008, 06:57 AM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/Photo148.jpg
Does anybody want to make it amazing for me? Someone who is better with photoshop than I am. The same question for SIMU. I didn't do a very good job with it.I'll give it a shot. Great drawing!

lost_nvrfound
10-17-2008, 07:25 AM
Sweet! thanks.

Stylie
10-17-2008, 08:56 AM
Wow, great pictures! Really, really, really great. :D
Which songs does not have an artwork yet? Maybe I can make something now.

lost_nvrfound
10-17-2008, 09:53 AM
Wow, great pictures! Really, really, really great. :D
Which songs does not have an artwork yet? Maybe I can make something now.

oh i've totally lost track i think.

umm...

ones that DO have artwork:

half truism
YGGFK
SIMU
Kristy
Trust in you

many others have ideas. you'll need to look for them though

Anka
10-17-2008, 11:16 AM
What I get from Rise and Fall is that you can be doing well, be successful and all that, but there are people who will want nothing more than to see everything in your life crumble and for you to fall flat on your ass. Everyone says they want you to be happy, but they'd also like to see you mess up or watch your life fall apart, because that way they will be happier than you.



I think of the Rise and fall the same...
and I like very much the Nothingtown made by Motacos

-L-
10-17-2008, 12:48 PM
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/lost_nvrfound/Photo148.jpg

Does anybody want to make it amazing for me? Someone who is better with photoshop than I am. The same question for SIMU. I didn't do a very good job with it.


This art is for Kristy?

Free?
10-17-2008, 01:01 PM
This art is for Kristy?

Nope, A Lot Like Me.

Vera
10-17-2008, 01:58 PM
The artwork for Nothingtown, the kid with the lighter is AWESOME.

Overall I'm so glad to see this project coming together piece by piece. Keep up the good work, guys!

randman21
10-17-2008, 02:26 PM
This art is for Kristy?
Wow, I just realized that it could work just as seamlessly for Kristy.

Free?
10-17-2008, 02:35 PM
Wow, I just realized that it could work just as seamlessly for Kristy.

I see Kristy's artwork as that girl from ALLM one is watering a dried flower. But we need to see her cute sad face this time.

-L-
10-17-2008, 03:19 PM
I'm ready now with A lot like me artwork, I hope you like it:)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/Lotlikeme.jpg

Free?
10-17-2008, 03:24 PM
Fuck, I LIKE it!
-L-, just, please, pay more attention to this thread because Tijs already said that he is going to work on ALLM editing. And you should've posted that you were going to take it. :)
But I really like what you've done, thumbs up!

-L-
10-17-2008, 03:41 PM
Fuck, I LIKE it!
-L-, just, please, pay more attention to this thread because Tijs already said that he is going to work on ALLM editing. And you should've posted that you were going to take it. :)
But I really like what you've done, thumbs up!


Oh sorry, i read just now, that Tijs said that he makes it. I just saw the art, and made this. But no problem, I don't insist that the final artwork must be mine:)

Tijs
10-17-2008, 06:06 PM
No worries, I'll post mine later when it's finished. I really like what you've done with it, so I might use a bit of yours in mine so it's from both of us :)

-L-
10-17-2008, 06:22 PM
No worries, I'll post mine later when it's finished. I really like what you've done with it, so I might use a bit of yours in mine so it's from both of us :)


Ok:D It will be great:)

lost_nvrfound
10-17-2008, 10:50 PM
cool! I can't wait to see!

I've been working on a Kristy rough draft. I forgot about the flower.... I will work on another, because the one I was doing was very literal and dark... I don't like what it had turned into as i was drawing. :( Its too depressing.

I will start on the one with the flower now, mmk?

Ryder1234
10-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Can't wait to see the ALLM art Tijs.

So - I'm wondering if everyone can take that pic of them selfs so that Karin can sketch us into a group. I think she said she only needs the pictures to be from the waist-up. Cause I've been experimenting in PSP (Not the game system), and I started a new "The Forums are:" credits page. It's only the title right now, cause I'm waiting on that picture to base it around. But we can't make the picture yet without everyone's individual pic.

lost_nvrfound
10-17-2008, 11:43 PM
You are right. EVERYONE PM ME A PICTURE OF YOURSELF FROM THE WAIST UP (preferably standing arms to your sides just to keep things easy on me)! Superdope is the only one so far who has.

Ryder1234
10-17-2008, 11:47 PM
I'll do mine tomorrow. When there's light. The day I rent drummms :D

Rutegard
10-18-2008, 05:08 AM
I'm ready now with A lot like me artwork, I hope you like it:)

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo7/dzsosss/Lotlikeme.jpg

this one is just awesome :D :D

Gustavo
10-18-2008, 01:32 PM
I've started a sort of 'status index'... It can be found here: http://www.offspring.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1193026&postcount=1

Please let me know if anything is wrong :P

Rooster
10-18-2008, 01:42 PM
I'm checking the artwork a bit now and i fucking like everything i see here. I have to take some time to check everything though. Where would be the names of users who created a particular song written (if this info was already posted i'm sorry i missed it)?

I would try something, but i don't think im as good as some users here, we have some true talents :)

Gustavo
10-18-2008, 01:48 PM
I'm checking the artwork a bit now and i fucking like everything i see here. I have to take some time to check everything though. Where would be the names of users who created a particular song written (if this info was already posted i'm sorry i missed it)?

I would try something, but i don't think im as good as some users here, we have some true talents :)

Oh, you mean... this? :)
http://www.offspring.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1197522&postcount=76

Free?
10-18-2008, 01:48 PM
EDIT:To Gustavo about his status index thing.


It's cool, but there are some mistakes.
That thing I drawn for -L- wasn't really my concept of Fix You :D. I believe -L- is excited about her idea for that, but she can't draw it. I have few ideas for Fix You too, but I hope that -L- will find a solution and show us her artwork.

I think lost also is working on ryder's idea of Rock Bottom.

There were few ideas of Nothingtown by Anka, Superdope, me and Motacos made his own version of it, I think lost isn't working on Nothingtown.

But she works on Kristy with flower.

Also she needs our photos so she could start working on our mass portrait.

Do we need an artwork for O.C. Life? mmm Oo



P.S.: Poor lost. :D

Tijs
10-18-2008, 01:51 PM
No worries, I'll post mine later when it's finished. I really like what you've done with it, so I might use a bit of yours in mine so it's from both of us :)

And here it is! Me and -L- like it, let's hope you do too!

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9231/allmbymartatijsdl1.jpg

Rooster
10-18-2008, 01:54 PM
Oh, you mean... this? :)
http://www.offspring.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1197522&postcount=76

I have seen that one, and i think it's pretty cool :)

What i meant was that we should have written somewhere who recorded (or helped to record) which song somewhere. I think it could be written somewhere on the bottom of a page of a particular song that user(s) helped with (like under the song lyrics, written in small font).

edit: and if zsk is still interesting to record the second guitar for Takes Me Nowhere (i recorded one part, and i'm waiting zsk to reply - he wanted to colaborate, but he hasn't been up here for a while) and would record his part, he should be added under the "guitarists section", but Ryder should be able to fix that without a problem (i'm referring to the page you posted in your link)

Gustavo
10-18-2008, 01:57 PM
And here it is! Me and -L- like it, let's hope you do too!

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9231/allmbymartatijsdl1.jpg

Holy shit! It's amazing.

Superdope
10-18-2008, 01:57 PM
Tijs, you just keep on blowing my mind! Shout out to -L- and lost, also.

Free?
10-18-2008, 01:57 PM
And here it is! Me and -L- like it, let's hope you do too!

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/9231/allmbymartatijsdl1.jpg

No, I hate it!
jookin', it's good! You made the mirror look like a window.
It's cool to have cartooney and wicked-artsy artworks.

Tijs
10-18-2008, 01:59 PM
Yeah I wasn't sure if it was a mirror or a reflection in a window the girl was looking at. I could try to make it look more like a mirror.

Rooster
10-18-2008, 02:00 PM
And here it is! Me and -L- like it, let's hope you do too!

*picture*

Dude, that's amazing! You're an artist!

Free?
10-18-2008, 02:07 PM
Yeah I wasn't sure if it was a mirror or a reflection in a window the girl was looking at. I could try to make it look more like a mirror.

Well, I'm not sure too anymore hehe. The original idea were 2 mirrors placed on both sides of a wall and 2 persons looking in them so the mirrors would make sense of a window and like persons are staring at each other. But we better ask lost.

Ryder1234
10-18-2008, 02:11 PM
Gustavo - credits should be changed to "started" or something. I made that other picture you linked just as a preview of how it might look (of course without Karin's group picture), so now I'm waiting on that picture to do the final one.

Raptor - I will be doing a separate page say who played on what. Again, that other pic was just a preview.

Tijs - That is great! And of course props to Karin and -L- for the concept.

Rooster
10-18-2008, 02:14 PM
Raptor - I will be doing a separate page say who played on what. Again, that other pic was just a preview.

Aha, ok. But it's a cool idea, and i like it :)

I know i wanted to make something for the artwork in the beginning, but you guys are better than me in these artwork things.

And will the pictures of users still be needed?

edit: checked the index again, and i saw that the pics will be needed.

Gustavo
10-18-2008, 02:15 PM
EDIT:To Gustavo about his status index thing.


It's cool, but there are some mistakes.
That thing I drawn for -L- wasn't really my concept of Fix You :D. I believe -L- is excited about her idea for that, but she can't draw it. I have few ideas for Fix You too, but I hope that -L- will find a solution and show us her artwork.

I think lost also is working on ryder's idea of Rock Bottom.

There were few ideas of Nothingtown by Anka, Superdope, me and Motacos made his own version of it, I think lost isn't working on Nothingtown.

But she works on Kristy with flower.

Also she needs our photos so she could start working on our mass portrait.

Do we need an artwork for O.C. Life? mmm Oo



P.S.: Poor lost. :D

Fixed... I edited it, is there anything wrong yet?

EDIT:
Gustavo - credits should be changed to "started" or something. I made that other picture you linked just as a preview of how it might look (of course without Karin's group picture), so now I'm waiting on that picture to do the final one.


Ok, I changed it.

Anything else?

Tijs
10-18-2008, 02:29 PM
Anything else?
Add me to the ALLM artwork?

And did SIMU still need to be (re-)done? I'll do it!

Stylie
10-18-2008, 02:36 PM
Tijs, that's awesome! I really want to draw something now, just to see my drawing in those beautifull pictures, hah.

Gustavo
10-18-2008, 03:25 PM
Add me to the ALLM artwork?

And did SIMU still need to be (re-)done? I'll do it!

Sure!

Well, I did an artwork for SIMU, but it wasn't good. Lost_nvrfound has done an amazing one! If it needs to be redone I don't know... You'd better ask Lost.

... Poor Lost˛ :P

lost_nvrfound
10-19-2008, 01:25 AM
Yeah I wasn't sure if it was a mirror or a reflection in a window the girl was looking at. I could try to make it look more like a mirror.
Hmm... well yes. It was supposed to be a mirror. I think that its very important to the meaning of the picture.

I think there is too much color in it to be honest. -L-'s version didn't have enough, but, like her dress (I think it looks more like a bed sheet though.) shouldn't be red (maybe keep it white?) and maybe have the wall fade to white radially as you get farther from the mirror.

And as a last comment, that pink and that shade of red shouldn't be mixed. (They don't compliment each other well)

Please don't think I'm just shitting all over it. Its headed in the right direction.

And yes, please redo the coloring for SIMU. I did a terrible job. It looks too cartoony and not "edgey" enough. I like your work.


P.S.: Poor lost. :D

... Poor Lost˛ :P
hehe... poor me? Well it does seem like i've bitten off a lot I suppose. I will get a lot done tomorrow though (well actually later. GEEZE its late! I only just got home from work. wtf?). They gave me sunday off this week, so I will work on the drawings that I am supposed to get done.

AND EVERYBODY SEND ME A PICTURE OF YOU VIA PM SO I CAN INCLUDE YOU IN THE GROUP PORTRAIT! IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY, KNOW THAT I WON"T LET ANYONE ELSE SEE!

Tijs
10-19-2008, 05:36 AM
How's this?

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4351/allmbymartatijscorrectioy4.jpg

Zee
10-19-2008, 06:41 AM
Now that's just fucking great! Awesome! Brilliant!

Free?
10-19-2008, 07:11 AM
Imo the dress is still too dark to be the ehm.. bed dress.
And mirrors are usually placed on the wall, not engraved into the wall.

Gustavo
10-19-2008, 10:11 AM
I've been thinking... Will there be a printed version of the album with all the artwork and stuff?

Stylie
10-19-2008, 10:41 AM
I've been thinking... Will there be a printed version of the album with all the artwork and stuff?

That would actually be really cool.

lost_nvrfound
10-19-2008, 10:58 AM
How's this?

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4351/allmbymartatijscorrectioy4.jpg

Looks god Tijs! I'm pleased. :)


I've been thinking... Will there be a printed version of the album with all the artwork and stuff?

Thats part of the idea. It's all going to be put together in a .rar or something like that so that I guess you can print it yourself.

Tijs
10-19-2008, 12:29 PM
I noticed that there's one thing forgotten in the artwork-list in the first post. The CD itself. Probably similar to the front cover?


Imo the dress is still too dark to be the ehm.. bed dress.
And mirrors are usually placed on the wall, not engraved into the wall.
Ok, here's another version:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/812/allmbymartatijscorrectift5.jpg


Thats part of the idea. It's all going to be put together in a .rar or something like that so that I guess you can print it yourself.When it's finished I'll print one for sure! This is all pretty damn awesome. I could make a nice PDF file for all the art, so everything's exactly in the right size.



AND EVERYBODY SEND ME A PICTURE OF YOU VIA PM SO I CAN INCLUDE YOU IN THE GROUP PORTRAIT! IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY, KNOW THAT I WON"T LET ANYONE ELSE SEE!
Does this goes for everyone? Because Free's first post only mentions the people who worked on the recordings.

Tijs
10-19-2008, 12:34 PM
Just so we can compare the 3 different versions that were made:

I like the first one the best. There are plenty of shadows in it which creates a dark atmosphere which I like. I also like how the colors focuses your attention to the center of the picture.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9070/all3gh6.jpg

lost_nvrfound
10-19-2008, 12:39 PM
my roommate says the last one and i think i agree.

Ryder1234
10-19-2008, 01:45 PM
I'd have to say the first one.

I've had a concept for Nothingtown for a while, but never posted it.

It's a shot down a street, with houses on the sides that are all identical. In the distance, you see high rise buildings, like a different city. A boy is standing in an intersection, looking towards the city, knowing he'll never get to go there.

I sketched it a while back, I'll take a picture of it (no scanner, and you wouldn't use mine anyway, someone would have to redraw it), and post it here.

Free?
10-19-2008, 02:09 PM
I would say the first one with the dress and shadows around the mirror of the 3rd one. :p

And so far Nothingtown definitely has the most of artwork ideas. What could that mean?

Stylie
10-19-2008, 02:24 PM
I must agree with Tijs, I like the first one best. Darker. But maybe change the color of the dress...

Ryder1234
10-19-2008, 05:11 PM
http://offspring.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=180&pictureid=1352

Here's my rough sketch for Nothingtown. So, all the houses are the same, in the distance there's the city/high rise buildings (got cut off a bit), and the boy standing in the intersection. If this gets chosen, someone re do it cause I can't draw all that well.

randman21
10-19-2008, 06:06 PM
This is almost exactly how I picture it in my head. Well, the concept. In mine, the homogeneous houses go horizontally, in the foreground, while the city towers above it in the background. And there's a guy and a girl on a motorcycle, leaving their Nothingtown. I won't even attempt to draw it. I'm not suggesting it anyway, I like yours.

Free?
10-19-2008, 06:18 PM
I like all your concepts about at the same level. Well, because they kinda resemble each other, I have no problems with simple artworks if they have some good idea. I personally like either my own, motacos' or superdope's concepts a bit more than the rest, but hey, it's a quite obvious song, so it's not necessary to put some twists in artwork.

lost_nvrfound
10-19-2008, 07:19 PM
Meh... I still like the third one best.

Also, I kind of like Mocatos' drawing. Its good.

And finally, I didn't get any drawing done today. My roommate ended up on an adventure unintentionally and that ate up most of my day.

randman21
10-19-2008, 09:05 PM
Oh, yeah. I forgot that I'm in love with Motacos's drawing. It has my endless endorsement :)

-L-
10-20-2008, 06:30 AM
Thread about the artwork and booklet for the RAFRAG album covered by us!
I've started a cover, I'll post it here as soon as possible!
Any thoughts?

Status

Cover: (Done) - iGustavo
Back: (NOT STARTED YET) - Anyone?


1. Half-Truism (Done)- Sofinch, Tijs
2. Trust In You (Done) ? - Free?, -L-
3. You're Gonna Go Far, Kid (Done) - Free?, -L-
4. Hammerhead (NOT STARTED YET) - Anyone?
5. A Lot Like Me (Done) ? Lost_nvrfound, -L-, Tijs
6. Takes Me Nowhere (NOT STARTED YET) - Anyone?
7. Kristy, Are You Doing Okay (INCOMPLETE) - Lost_nvrfound
8. Nothingtown (INCOMPLETE) - Anka, Superdope, Free?, Motacos
9. Stuff Is Messed Up (Done) ? - Lost_nvrfound,
10. Fix You (INCOMPLETE) -L-
11. Let's Hear It For Rock Bottom (NOT STARTED YET) - Lost_nvrfound, Ryder1234
12. Rise And Fall (NOT STARTED YET) - Anyone?
13. O.C. Life (NOT STARTED YET) - Anyone?

Credits page: (INCOMPLETE / STARTED) ? - Ryder1234

Those of you who helped with the recordings for the album are supposed to send Lost_nvrfound a picture of yours, send her a PM. (Do not repply to this thread with your photo and don't send her the picture by vistor messages either)



Fix you isn't started yet, so anybody has an idea about it...that could be fine, because my idea isn't working.

Tijs
10-20-2008, 09:36 AM
And also, please reply someone?


I noticed that there's one thing forgotten in the artwork-list in the first post. The CD itself. Probably similar to the front cover?




AND EVERYBODY SEND ME A PICTURE OF YOU VIA PM SO I CAN INCLUDE YOU IN THE GROUP PORTRAIT! IF YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY, KNOW THAT I WON"T LET ANYONE ELSE SEE!
Does this goes for everyone? Because Free's first post only mentions the people who worked on the recordings.

lost_nvrfound
10-20-2008, 10:16 AM
I want a picture of everyone involved if possible

Free?
10-20-2008, 02:11 PM
I want a picture of everyone involved if possible

Quoted for truth! Poor lost will have to draw soooooooooooooooo much :p.

lost_nvrfound
10-20-2008, 07:27 PM
i've been working on kristy... i don't like it. :(

Free?
10-21-2008, 05:26 AM
Sorry for late reply, Tijs.
I noticed that there's one thing forgotten in the artwork-list in the first post. The CD itself. Probably similar to the front cover?
Yes I think it will be the baby angel. But there's also two possible places on front/back sides of the case. I think they need to have some different from the main baby artworks. My funny-stupid idea for the ending artwork was that baby angel sitting behind a PC posting on forum and sucking gringo bandito. Don't know if you'll like it guys, I'm not sure about it as well.
I imagine Kristy about like that
http://xf9.xanga.com/212c106553d31157818120/z118424462.bmp
Nevermind the background and her looks, just her pose. I think Kristy should look like that girl from ALLM artwork, in the white dress, sitting on her knees and gently watering a dying flower.
http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/Image/1660/Thumb/1660R-3371.jpg
Hope you get the picture :)

lost_nvrfound
10-21-2008, 09:31 AM
mmk... I will give it another shot today...

Gustavo
10-21-2008, 10:00 AM
Sorry for late reply, Tijs.
Yes I think it will be the baby angel. But there's also two possible places on front/back sides of the case. I think they need to have some different from the main baby artworks. My funny-stupid idea for the ending artwork was that baby angel sitting behind a PC posting on forum and sucking gringo bandito.

Interesting. I might try to do this one... By the way, I bought my Gringo Bandito bottle today!

Stylie
10-21-2008, 10:28 AM
My funny-stupid idea for the ending artwork was that baby angel sitting behind a PC posting on forum and sucking gringo bandito. Don't know if you'll like it guys, I'm not sure about it as well.

Hahahah, that's great! :D

Gustavo
10-21-2008, 11:01 AM
EDIT: http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4728/backcoverzr3.jpg , click in this link to see the image
So, what do you guys think?

Free?
10-21-2008, 12:10 PM
I think it's HUUUUUGEE! But I kinda like it, yeah something like that would do. I'm still not sure, should we use O.C.Life as the track nr 13, not as bonus "hidden" song.

Stylie
10-21-2008, 01:58 PM
That looks really great, iGustavo! :)

lost_nvrfound
10-21-2008, 01:59 PM
gustavo, can you shrink that down a little and replace it. Its ridiculously huge. I can't really see it its so big and my screen has crazy high resolution.

Tijs
10-21-2008, 02:32 PM
gustavo, can you shrink that down a little and replace it. Its ridiculously huge. I can't really see it its so big and my screen has crazy high resolution.
Just visit the image's location and your browser should resize it automatically.

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4728/backcoverzr3.jpg

lost_nvrfound
10-21-2008, 02:38 PM
ahh thanks!

Looks good. the gringo bandito label is hard to see though.

Tijs
10-21-2008, 02:48 PM
I agree, I think that the angel/bottle/computer thing can be larger. The wings could be behind the song titles but that doesn't matter. Give the song title-boxes a black border and it'll look just fine. This should also fill up the large black area at the top- and centerleft

Anka
10-21-2008, 02:48 PM
I dont see it in the forum, and the link isnt working for me :(

Gustavo
10-21-2008, 03:05 PM
sorry! I fixed it :)

Anka
10-21-2008, 03:15 PM
sorry! I fixed it :)

I still cant see it:(

Thomas
10-21-2008, 04:46 PM
Yeah, I can't see it either.

lost_nvrfound
10-21-2008, 05:37 PM
I agree, I think that the angel/bottle/computer thing can be larger. The wings could be behind the song titles but that doesn't matter. Give the song title-boxes a black border and it'll look just fine. This should also fill up the large black area at the top- and centerleft

i agree and second this

Free?
10-22-2008, 12:39 PM
What do you think of this Hammerhead artwork concept?
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/Hammerhead-sketch.jpg

Anka
10-22-2008, 01:10 PM
What do you think of this Hammerhead artwork concept?
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/therunawayfromdangerman/Hammerhead-sketch.jpg

it made me laugh... I like the idea

Static_Martyr
10-22-2008, 02:36 PM
I like the HH artwork. "Approved," hah! Makes me think of Bad Religion's "Los Angeles Is Burning" video (the camera-headed dudes that shoot flames), or the cover art to Sum 41's "Go Chuck Yourself."