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disclaimer_07
10-09-2008, 04:44 AM
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noodler
10-09-2008, 04:45 AM
I truly think it is an great anthem. The intro, the rif, the pure power in the lyrics.


Damn, its up there anyway.

dr.vanessa
10-09-2008, 07:17 AM
it's my favourite song..:D:D:)

Redjie
10-09-2008, 07:34 AM
rocks so much! :D I love it!
At least can make kids at school wonder who's that song from and go wild (I saw it happening today! Amen Lightning Rod!)

MasteR GunneR
10-09-2008, 07:45 AM
Their best song? No way!.............................................. .................................................. ............................ .. no really, it's not!
Still a pretty good one though.

F@ BANKZ
10-09-2008, 08:07 AM
No, no and no.

Rutegard
10-09-2008, 08:07 AM
it's not the best offspring song ever..


BUT it's almost there :p

holland25
10-09-2008, 08:08 AM
No .

Drafan
10-09-2008, 09:24 AM
No such thing like their best song, for me

Sofinch
10-09-2008, 09:30 AM
I post here
but I like them all [confused]

medi01
10-09-2008, 10:13 AM
ahh this thread is laaame...i want to mark my disagreement, by diong so i'm posting and there for it suggests i do think its the best. which it isn't

lightning rod is kl...some parts of it are really good. but as an overall song i wouldn't rate it in the top 10-20

lost_nvrfound
10-09-2008, 11:26 AM
No such thing like their best song, for me

i am in agreement.

Rutegard
10-09-2008, 11:49 AM
No such thing like their best song, for me

yes QTF! :D

Blitzkrieg Bop
10-09-2008, 11:56 AM
Not their best song ... but definately up there with the greats for me :D

Gustavo
10-09-2008, 05:48 PM
http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34653

Sort of... My favorite song, together with The End Of The Line.

disclaimer_07
10-10-2008, 12:26 AM
You people of little faith, why do you doubt? :D

What's not to like about that song? Pray tell. xD

Budzy
10-10-2008, 02:49 AM
You people of little faith, why do you doubt? :D

What's not to like about that song? Pray tell. xD

Its a GREAT song.
But is it the best? Nope.
Probably wouldn't make my top 10.

Conspiracyof1000
10-10-2008, 03:00 AM
It's not my favorite song, but it's in the top 10.
Now, I really must go to bed. It's 3 in the morning.

brian.offspring
10-10-2008, 03:29 PM
a didn't post here...

dff_punk
10-10-2008, 05:26 PM
a didn't post here...

....neither did a.

Rutegard
10-11-2008, 12:27 PM
....neither did a.

eheheheheh

u r funny


as usual :p

Ryder1234
10-12-2008, 01:43 PM
No, no and no.

QFT.

Actually one of my least favorites.

SK8rocka
10-12-2008, 08:43 PM
Put it this way.................best song on the album and better than almost everthing on co1 (almost)

yeah lightning rod rocks,

Its wierd i was listening to splinter last night and i realised that splinter has the greatest sound (guitar and drums)
and i also realised how good splinter actualy is.

renato piquette
10-16-2008, 07:09 PM
no way!the best songs are gotta get away and all i want!!!!

Bipolar Bear
10-17-2008, 12:46 AM
it's nowhere near the best song...SELF ESTEEM

Mephistopheles
05-13-2012, 03:41 AM
I agree that Lightning Rod is the best song and Splinter is the best Offspring album ever! ©€

TheJakes84
05-13-2012, 06:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1VCb8z5uhg

disclaimer_07
05-13-2012, 07:55 AM
It's still my fav.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1VCb8z5uhgSweet.

Gustavo
05-13-2012, 07:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1VCb8z5uhg

Have you been locked up in a cave or something? (http://www.offspring.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1353430#post1353430)

GamerKT
05-13-2012, 10:27 AM
It's definitely up there. I always thought the 5 second whoosh-whoosh-whoosh intro was stupid, so I never gave it a chance. When I finally did, I came.

BagOfShenanigans
05-13-2012, 11:04 AM
Splinter was good, this song made it great.

danitanev
05-13-2012, 12:26 PM
Lightning Rod is a great song - one of my favorites for sure!

XYlophonetreeZ
05-13-2012, 12:33 PM
Honestly I think it's probably the most overrated Offspring song there is. Never Gonna Find Me, on the other hand, is one of the most underrated!

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
05-13-2012, 01:29 PM
I agree that Lightning Rod is the best song and Splinter is the best Offspring album ever! ©€
On your profile, it says one of your interests is blasphemy. You had me convinced that you might be real until the whole "Splinter is the best Offspring album" thing. :)


Honestly I think it's probably the most overrated Offspring song there is. Never Gonna Find Me, on the other hand, is one of the most underrated!
I agree with you. Lightning Rod is a really good song, but I much prefer Never Gonna Find Me. I don't see why people love it so much.

Llamas
05-13-2012, 02:24 PM
Honestly I think it's probably the most overrated Offspring song there is. Never Gonna Find Me, on the other hand, is one of the most underrated!

Whoa, seriously? No way. TKAA is the most overrated song for hardcore fans... but overall, Pretty Fly definitely is. Both TKAA and Lightning Rod are awesome songs, though.

I think Lightning Rod is the best song on Splinter. I really dig the dark intro, into the fast, break-neck verses, to the half-time syncopated, heavy chorus, all the way to the somber, dark bridge... I think how they play with syncopation and time signatures are the best part of this song. It's not something they do often at ALL.

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2012, 02:54 PM
Old thread is old, but I still love this song.

Dexter_italy
05-13-2012, 02:58 PM
this and trust in you should be always on the setlist :D

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2012, 03:10 PM
I should have requested "Lightning Rod" at the party yesterday. Though they've only played it live like once, right? Maybe they wouldn't have been able to play it.

I made up a vocal harmony to the chorus the other day. </nerd>

dff_punk
05-13-2012, 03:41 PM
The most underrated song by The Offspring ever has to be Leave It Behind.

disclaimer_07
05-13-2012, 03:46 PM
The most underrated song by The Offspring ever has to be Leave It Behind.
Their fans obviously left it behind. :(

Llamas
05-13-2012, 04:00 PM
I made up a vocal harmony to the chorus the other day. </nerd>

Haha, I've totally done that to Offspring songs before :D :D


The most underrated song by The Offspring ever has to be Leave It Behind.

I always hated that song - used to skip it when it would come on, thought it was the weakest track on Ixnay and considered it filler. Last month, though, when I listened to Ixnay again, I suddenly appreciated it. I wouldn't call it underrated, but I actually enjoy it now. It's not a bad song :)

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2012, 04:26 PM
Haha, I've totally done that to Offspring songs before :D :D

They played the updated "Dirty Magic" yesterday, and I think I heard a vocal harmony added in that I used to sing in my car. So either that's the only possible place to go with a vocal harmony since the key is a little odd, or they've been bugging my car since I've been old enough to drive.

Degstur Lolland
05-13-2012, 05:38 PM
I don't know if there is any better song on Splinter, maybe The Noose.

Never Gonna Find Me is very good and fine, but don't think it's better.

Leave It Behind, that's not really a proper track. It's something in between a song and an interlude. People who hate it can call it a filler. The song either doesn't want to really start or it wants to end very soon. :d

Whoa, the new Dirty Magic? How was it? Faster?

Llamas
05-13-2012, 05:40 PM
They played the updated "Dirty Magic" yesterday, and I think I heard a vocal harmony added in that I used to sing in my car. So either that's the only possible place to go with a vocal harmony since the key is a little odd, or they've been bugging my car since I've been old enough to drive.

:D I'm not sure, myself, but I swore I heard what I figure is that same harmony in one of the videos posted of Dirty Magic from one of the recent shows! And it was totally the harmony I used to sing to it.

Maybe it's not the same harmony as the one you heard. But if it is, he obviously stole it from me, not you. :mad:

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2012, 06:03 PM
Whoa, the new Dirty Magic? How was it? Faster?

Sorry, Hau. All of your predictions are wrong. It's the same speed as the original, and the main riff is exactly the same (with all that chorus effect on it and everything), but everything else they added in at least live (dunno about the album) just made it sound...bigger. Pretty awesome. I am 100% no longer worried about it. It's like they knew what needed to be kept the same and added in stuff to make it even better. I am impressed.


:D I'm not sure, myself, but I swore I heard what I figure is that same harmony in one of the videos posted of Dirty Magic from one of the recent shows! And it was totally the harmony I used to sing to it.

Maybe it's not the same harmony as the one you heard. But if it is, he obviously stole it from me, not you. :mad:

Whomever they stole it from, it's definitely not because it's the only place to go with any added harmonies. Clearly you stole it from me, though.

SMASHedTHEignition
05-13-2012, 08:56 PM
Do you guys think that this album version of dirty magic will have dexter singing " dont wanna " as he goes into the chorus bit(pull the shades). I just ask because both acoustic versions of the song he sings "dont wanna, pull the shades" etc, and we all know that on the ignition version, he does not.
What do you guys think?

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2012, 08:58 PM
Do you guys think that this album version of dirty magic will have dexter singing " dont wanna " as he goes into the chorus bit(pull the shades). I just ask because both acoustic versions of the song he sings "dont wanna, pull the shades" etc, and we all know that on the ignition version, he does not.
What do you guys think?

He didn't at the party yesterday, and I thought he might because of the acoustic version. I was glad he didn't; I'm not a fan of the added words.

SMASHedTHEignition
05-13-2012, 09:01 PM
He didn't at the party yesterday, and I thought he might because of the acoustic version. I was glad he didn't; I'm not a fan of the added words.

Yeah, I'm hoping they don't as well, I think the acoustic versions are terrible in comparison to live versions from the 90's.

XYlophonetreeZ
05-13-2012, 09:38 PM
Whoa, seriously? No way. TKAA is the most overrated song for hardcore fans... but overall, Pretty Fly definitely is. Both TKAA and Lightning Rod are awesome songs, though.

Yeah, I was talking about hardcore fans. TKAA gets a free pass from me because the intro is actually one of the awesome things ever. I think it's one of the few things the Offspring have done that you can legitimately rank among the "greatest ever" in rock. It deserves to be on some Top 50 list for Greatest Guitar Intros Ever in Rock, or something, and probably in the first half of that list too.


I think Lightning Rod is the best song on Splinter. I really dig the dark intro, into the fast, break-neck verses, to the half-time syncopated, heavy chorus, all the way to the somber, dark bridge... I think how they play with syncopation and time signatures are the best part of this song. It's not something they do often at ALL.
OK, so now I have to argue and it may sound a little harsh on the song, so advance apologies.

But... you're right, they don't do that kind of thing often at all, and, well... it shows. The chorus to that song has always been incredibly awkward and ill-fitting for me. I actually dig the intro that transitions so awesomely from NGFM and I even like Dexter's frantic, echoey vocals that sound like he actually is on a mountaintop. But it all fall apart for me in the chorus, and the guitar after the chorus just has the most awful, jarring sound to me. It sounds like death and it's sloppy in a way that the Offspring's guitar almost never is. It just doesn't have any punch.



Do you guys think that this album version of dirty magic will have dexter singing " dont wanna " as he goes into the chorus bit(pull the shades). I just ask because both acoustic versions of the song he sings "dont wanna, pull the shades" etc, and we all know that on the ignition version, he does not.
What do you guys think?
I always thought he said "Go on, and" rather than "Don't wanna." I don't have a problem with the added words other than it makes the melody exactly the same as "Have You Ever," rather than just extremely similar :)

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2012, 10:05 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping they don't as well, I think the acoustic versions are terrible in comparison to live versions from the 90's.

I don't think the acoustic versions are terrible at all - I just don't like the added words. Probably just because I've been listening to it one particular way for so long.


But... you're right, they don't do that kind of thing often at all, and, well... it shows. The chorus to that song has always been incredibly awkward and ill-fitting for me. I actually dig the intro that transitions so awesomely from NGFM and I even like Dexter's frantic, echoey vocals that sound like he actually is on a mountaintop. But it all fall apart for me in the chorus, and the guitar after the chorus just has the most awful, jarring sound to me. It sounds like death and it's sloppy in a way that the Offspring's guitar almost never is. It just doesn't have any punch.

I disagree with you, and now you must die. But seriously, I like how jarring the chorus is and everything about it.


I always thought he said "Go on, and" rather than "Don't wanna." I don't have a problem with the added words other than it makes the melody exactly the same as "Have You Ever," rather than just extremely similar :)

Y'know, I thought it was "go on and" too, then read "don't wanna" here and thought that sounded better and second-guessed myself.

But, never made the connection with "Have You Ever." Whoooaaa. But they're both E minor so there's probably only so many places to go with that. Explains why I like "Have You Ever" so much though.

XYlophonetreeZ
05-13-2012, 10:38 PM
But, never made the connection with "Have You Ever." Whoooaaa. But they're both E minor so there's probably only so many places to go with that. Explains why I like "Have You Ever" so much though.
They tend to recycle things every now and then, like Genocide/Change the World or All I Want/The End of the Line. Doesn't bother me a bit, actually. I've tried to write songs before and it's all about having an initial inspiration to go from, and then they sometimes write themselves. Can't blame Señor Holland for taking things he's done before and branching off into different areas.

Scorsese does it too. Casino was basically a sequel to Goodfellas but he couldn't do an actual sequel because (a) too many characters died, and (b) Goodfellas was a true story and making a fictional sequel would piss people off. This is a pretty big tangent and I'm drunk and I'm gonna shut up now.

Dexter_italy
05-13-2012, 11:25 PM
Leave It Behind, that's not really a proper track.

Is not a proper track? what is it, a cookie?

I love that song! I love every single second of Ixnay :D

Little_Miss_1565
05-13-2012, 11:43 PM
They tend to recycle things every now and then, like Genocide/Change the World or All I Want/The End of the Line. Doesn't bother me a bit, actually. I've tried to write songs before and it's all about having an initial inspiration to go from, and then they sometimes write themselves. Can't blame Señor Holland for taking things he's done before and branching off into different areas.

Scorsese does it too. Casino was basically a sequel to Goodfellas but he couldn't do an actual sequel because (a) too many characters died, and (b) Goodfellas was a true story and making a fictional sequel would piss people off. This is a pretty big tangent and I'm drunk and I'm gonna shut up now.

Yeah, I've done the same with things I've written - building off of previous ideas. I kind of like being able to trace what I've dubbed "That One Riff" through a bunch of different places..."Change The World" back to the end of Smash back to even "The Blurb."

I'm totally picking up what you're putting down with the Scorsese analogy. I didn't know that about him and I dig it now that I do.

Llamas
05-14-2012, 04:15 AM
But... you're right, they don't do that kind of thing often at all, and, well... it shows. The chorus to that song has always been incredibly awkward and ill-fitting for me. I actually dig the intro that transitions so awesomely from NGFM and I even like Dexter's frantic, echoey vocals that sound like he actually is on a mountaintop. But it all fall apart for me in the chorus, and the guitar after the chorus just has the most awful, jarring sound to me. It sounds like death and it's sloppy in a way that the Offspring's guitar almost never is. It just doesn't have any punch.
Interesting view. I don't think it was too harsh. I just don't agree :) I'll have to listen to it again later and see, though.


I always thought he said "Go on, and" rather than "Don't wanna." I don't have a problem with the added words other than it makes the melody exactly the same as "Have You Ever," rather than just extremely similar :)
Yeah, I noticed years ago that those two songs have the same chorus melody. Totally interchangeable, but it's cool because they're two totally different, awesome songs.


They tend to recycle things every now and then, like Genocide/Change the World or All I Want/The End of the Line. Doesn't bother me a bit, actually. I've tried to write songs before and it's all about having an initial inspiration to go from, and then they sometimes write themselves. Can't blame Señor Holland for taking things he's done before and branching off into different areas.
I always heard a lot of similarities between TKAA and Dammit I Changed Again, as well. But those two albums Americana and CO1 had a lot of similarities... they tried to rework a lot of it cause it was so successful, I imagine. And it doesn't bother me, either. Again, totally different songs.

DeeThree
05-14-2012, 09:01 AM
the passion in this song is fully off-charts, i just love it with all my heart!

effreyj
05-14-2012, 09:23 AM
I think Gone Away, Dirty Magic, and Bad Habit are their best songs...

Degstur Lolland
05-14-2012, 12:09 PM
Big and awesome Dirty Magic, can't wait.

TKAA solo got into some list. Overrated? Underrated? That's pointless, some of the best songs...

Leave It Behind again. :D It's a small song. It doesn't really have an interesting structure, it's just a free floating riff that really wants you to think about the next song. It's something special, simplistic and different. Filler interlude song. Yeah, basically a cookie. :d

To keep it more on-topic, never thought about any defects in Lightning Rod, it's just awesome.

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
05-14-2012, 05:51 PM
I love Leave It Behind. I don't know how to describe it, I just do. It's short, but I wouldn't change a thing about it. I love the guitar riff at the beginning that reoccurs throughout the song.

Degstur Lolland
05-14-2012, 10:08 PM
I love Leave It Behind. I don't know how to describe it, I just do. It's short, but I wouldn't change a thing about it. I love the guitar riff at the beginning that reoccurs throughout the song.
I think it's easy to get into it because it's simple. Fresh fans might love it. Also, if you noticed, the guitar riff is from Ballroom Blitz.

Dexter_italy
05-14-2012, 11:01 PM
I think it's easy to get into it because it's simple. Fresh fans might love it. Also, if you noticed, the guitar riff is from Ballroom Blitz.

why only fresh fans might love it? If you don't like the song who cares, but are old fans allowed to like it? I don't think there's the need for a permission :D

Degstur Lolland
05-15-2012, 12:39 AM
Fresh fans might get easily into it because it's simplistic with a cool guitar riff. Older fans might want something with a bit more substance and complexity. But, of course, it's not a rule. I guess tru punx fans love it too. :D

Chainsaw
05-15-2012, 04:38 AM
Fresh fans might get easily into it because it's simplistic with a cool guitar riff. Older fans might want something with a bit more substance and complexity. But, of course, it's not a rule. I guess tru punx fans love it too. :D

Most Offspring songs are simplistic.

Moose
05-15-2012, 08:22 AM
i disagree that lightning rod is the best offspring song ever...its not even the best song on splinter (that goes to either the noose or cant get my head around you).



i was actually always disappointed with lightning rod...it feels like they could have done so much more with the song...after listening to it, im like, i want more from it...i know why people like it...i just feel like that song could have offered more.

joshgenis
05-15-2012, 05:27 PM
go to rainymood.com, listen to the song with that in the background

Llamas
05-16-2012, 06:31 AM
Fresh fans might get easily into it because it's simplistic with a cool guitar riff. Older fans might want something with a bit more substance and complexity. But, of course, it's not a rule. I guess tru punx fans love it too. :D


Most Offspring songs are simplistic.

I agree, chainsaw. Lightning Rod is actually one of their more complex songs. Other than Pay the Man, and a few tracks on RFRG, Lightning Rod just might be their most complex song.

Degstur Lolland
05-16-2012, 03:45 PM
Most Offspring songs are simplistic.
That's a pointless statement. Like I said, it's just a riff or a cookie, a level lower that anything on Ixnay except intro and interlude, but it's cool until it gets crushed by Gone Away. :D Leave that song behind, I'm tired explaining it.

CGMHAY and Hit That are great too, but different and people are going to prefer a heavy and dark rock.

Dexter_italy
05-16-2012, 10:51 PM
That's a pointless statement. Like I said, it's just a riff or a cookie, a level lower that anything on Ixnay except intro and interlude, but it's cool until it gets crushed by Gone Away. :D Leave that song behind, I'm tired explaining it.

CGMHAY and Hit That are great too, but different and people are going to prefer a heavy and dark rock.

cool to hate is way more a repeatful song. Point is you don't like it, some do....but you're explanation hasn't a point

Degstur Lolland
05-17-2012, 12:57 PM
cool to hate is way more a repeatful song. Point is you don't like it, some do....but you're explanation hasn't a point
Cool to hate? I don't think so, but I haven't heard it in a long time. I don't think it's as special as LIB. Don't like it? I don't think so, I like every Offspring song, but we are in the best song thread or at least some people challenge the best song. My point is that it's not the best song by far and so many songs on Ixnay crush it, but yeah some people love it and it's the best song for them, it's normal...