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dr.vanessa
10-15-2008, 06:54 AM
I know it's not so funny thing to talk about but have u ever felt that you're afraid of death?and do you think there's a kind of life after death and how do u imagine that will be?

Rutegard
10-15-2008, 07:22 AM
i don't fear death...

i only fear the way i am going to die...i don't wanna suffer!!


and as the great band (after offspring) once said...we don't rest in peace we just disappear


i agree with that, after we die there's nothing....just nothing...we no longer exist and period!...it stops!

actually if we think about it , it's not that bad ;)


EDIT: who am i kidding?....after i die i'm gonna meet with dex and noods and greg in heaven! and they will perform a private show :D eheheheheh

Sofinch
10-15-2008, 07:43 AM
I don't believe in reincarnation
but if I could I would like to become a fly
I think a fly has the greatest life ever: you can eat what you want , you can annoy everyone, you can spy everyone [nobody suspects the fly], you can go where you want whenever you want, everything is free
and you end without even knowing it [bang! under the newspaper]

Free?
10-15-2008, 07:46 AM
Death will be the final point, when you can't change anything in your life. Also, in many cases someone's death is worse for his close people than for the person that died.
I don't think that there's any form of life after death. But even if we are 100% sure in something, we still might be wrong because we can't know everything, we can't see everything, we can't be everywhere. So who knows. We'll see... We're just humans. except Rutegard =P

Free?
10-15-2008, 07:48 AM
I don't believe in reincarnation
but if I could I would like to become a fly
I think a fly has the greatest life ever: you can eat what you want , you can annoy everyone, you can spy everyone [nobody suspects the fly], you can go where you want whenever you want, everything is free
and you end without even knowing it [bang! under the newspaper]

Unless you meet some kind of boy who likes to ...experiment... with bugs. ;)

Rutegard
10-15-2008, 07:52 AM
Unless you meet some kind of boy who likes to ...experiment... with bugs. ;)

eehhh yeark!!

gross!

who?

you?!

dr.vanessa
10-15-2008, 08:34 AM
one night i couldn't sleep(it was summer)and i was thinking full of fear about death when suddenly i felt that the relationship i have with myself-soul could never end i really dunno if it was just an excuse for me to to stop being afraid but it was a really strong feeling.i've doubted many times about it since then but i finally have no idea.the only sure thing is death after that i wish i knew....

thnx for your posts guys:)...

Splinter[PI]
10-15-2008, 09:53 AM
We'll see. death comes early enough.

Grimesy da Offspringfan
10-15-2008, 10:07 AM
I'm not really afraid of death. I'm actually rather curious about it

Rutegard
10-15-2008, 10:18 AM
I'm not really afraid of death. I'm actually rather curious about it

exactly

somehow i just fear the way i'm gonna day...

dr.vanessa
10-15-2008, 10:24 AM
exactly

somehow i just fear the way i'm gonna day...

LOL r u sure it's gonna be a day it could be a night....jk!xD

Rutegard
10-15-2008, 10:30 AM
LOL r u sure it's gonna be a day it could be a night....looooooooool jk!

:p ;)

i mean DIE DIE DIE :D

so DIE fucker DIE :D LOL

dr.vanessa
10-15-2008, 10:41 AM
:p ;)

i mean DIE DIE DIE :D

so DIE fucker DIE :D LOL

LoL .

F@ BANKZ
10-15-2008, 12:03 PM
I hope nobody makes that horribly pretentious argument about life not being able to physically continue after you die again, no offence to whomever said it intended.

Bipolar Bear
10-15-2008, 12:30 PM
Life after death: probably doesn't exist
(I say probably because I'm not an asshole who pretends he's sure
about anything, unlike RELIGIOUS PEOPLE)

Drafan
10-15-2008, 12:39 PM
What is faster, death or thought?

Rutegard
10-15-2008, 12:55 PM
What is faster, death or thought?

death i supposeLOL

Bipolar Bear
10-15-2008, 12:57 PM
You never hear about anyone thinking: Shit. I just died.
Can you continue thinking for a while after death? I heard that yes.

Rutegard
10-15-2008, 01:04 PM
You never hear about anyone thinking: Shit. I just died.
Can you continue thinking for a while after death? I heard that yes.

at least decapitated ppl can still move their eyes...

hshduppsnt
10-15-2008, 11:23 PM
I'm not really afraid of death. I'm actually rather curious about it

I'll fess up - also very curious - but
also afraid of death - don't like the idea of not knowing what goes on with life, the world, answers to so many questions, and the whole concept of nothingness.

I know that if there is, in fact, nothing I won't have to worry about it because I won't know but current living me doesn't like Thinking about nothingness... it messes with my head too much...

Sofinch
10-16-2008, 10:55 AM
Unless you meet some kind of boy who likes to ...experiment... with bugs. ;)

hmmm... you made me think again about my "perfect reincarnation plan" :D
maybe I rather be a chicken, who experiments with chickens ? :D

Rutegard
10-16-2008, 11:03 AM
hmmm... you made me think again about my "perfect reincarnation plan" :D
maybe I rather be a chicken, who experiments with chickens ? :D

erm....everyone?!?! LOL

Grimesy da Offspringfan
10-16-2008, 11:06 AM
hmmm... you made me think again about my "perfect reincarnation plan" :D
maybe I rather be a chicken, who experiments with chickens ? :D

You'd probably end up at KFC :D:p

Sofinch
10-16-2008, 11:11 AM
You'd probably end up at KFC :D:p
Lucky me we don't have KFC's in Belgium :D

erm....everyone?!?! LOL

wuh wuh whaaaaaaaat! :eek: well now I don't know it anymore :'D

Vikica
10-16-2008, 04:15 PM
I guess death is a way life tells you ''that's it, you had your chance''. I can't say I'm not afraid to die, but I don't want to leave something undone. true, teenagers like me shouldn't think about this kind of stuff but I often wonder did I do my best till now? is there anything I can change? and that's the time I call some old friends just to ask how they are doing.
I think that once you die, your afterlife lasts as long there's something you can be remembered of and as long there's someone to remember you.

LosingStreak
10-16-2008, 07:54 PM
I imagine dieing moshing at a Offspring concert. Then i would be reincarnated as one of Dexter's condoms.

Lodat225
10-16-2008, 08:45 PM
I really dislike everybody who has posted in this thread.

The good old days ... :(

Rutegard
10-17-2008, 04:50 AM
Lucky me we don't have KFC's in Belgium :D


wuh wuh whaaaaaaaat! :eek: well now I don't know it anymore :'D

yeah...don't u eat chicken? p


I imagine dieing moshing at a Offspring concert. Then i would be reincarnated as one of Dexter's condoms.

AHAHHAHAHA

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

may i go with u?!?! :D pppllleeeeeeeaaaasee

Sofinch
10-17-2008, 07:17 AM
yeah...don't u eat chicken? p





I eat chicken [man I'm a cannibal in some kind of way :D]

Grimesy da Offspringfan
10-17-2008, 07:44 AM
I eat chicken [man I'm a cannibal in some kind of way :D]

In a very strange way, you eat yourself... :eek: :D

Sofinch
10-17-2008, 08:43 AM
In a very strange way, you eat yourself... :eek: :D

That why I have so many bite-wounds on my arm :D

Rutegard
10-17-2008, 09:16 AM
I eat chicken [man I'm a cannibal in some kind of way :D]

uuuuuh see? LOL



In a very strange way, you eat yourself... :eek: :D

huuuuuuuuuuummm...sexy :D

Sofinch
10-17-2008, 09:24 AM
uuuuuh see? LOL




huuuuuuuuuuummm...sexy :D

I have to admit that I taste delicious :D:p
man I have such an appetite for some fries right now!! :D [wipes off the drool]

Lodat225
10-17-2008, 08:52 PM
Okay, enough with the smileys or emoticons or faces or whatever the fuck you want to call them.

Please.

JoY
10-18-2008, 02:58 AM
"death" is supposed to be the permanent end of life in a person or animal according to the dictionary, but it's a confusing term & its definition has been open to debate for decades, especially after the introduction of organ- & tissuedonation.

after initially the heart stops beating, measurable brainactivity can be monitored upto several hours (if I remember correctly, it's even as much as 24 hours - or maybe just 8 hours, but I remember it was quite a lot more than I'd expected). after brainactivity becomes immeasurable to us, there's really no way to tell if the brain isn't functioning anymore on a minimal level.
after initially brainactivity stops being measurable to us, it's possible the heart still keeps beating upto about an hour.
so when do you decide someone's indisputably dead? when the proces of dying has progressed to an irreversible point you medically can't prove someone's still alive? well... yes, that's basically practically what it comes down to.

there's a reason in some cultures there are ceremonies & rituals where the beloved ones accompany the one who's passed away for three days, why in acient cultures (like the Egyptian, that in many ways was way ahead of its time) they brought gifts to the dead & treated them with great respect, like they didn't cease to exist.

death is a proces & a very slow one at that. it's not a coincidence, that "to die" is a verb. if you've ever seen anyone die, you see that their conscience is often clear, even if it hadn't been clear in months before the proces of dying, & that the characteristic, lively features in their face are still recognisable for hours.

people who've medically experienced death (no measurable brainactivity), but came back from it, often tell about things they've seen & heard, that are realistic & true. some of them can describe the sound & looks of specialised medical machines that were used on them, that they couldn't possibly have described, if they hadn't been present in the room.
there are also people who come back from a deep coma, considered medical miracles, who can repeat exact conversations that took place at their bedside. one comatose woman for instance overheard a conversation between her husband & her doctor about her medical condition & quitting the treatment, because without brainactivity there wasn't any hope. when eventually she came back, she described an enormous feeling of panic during that conversation, because they wanted to let her go & basically were talking about funeral plans, when she was still "in there".

this is not anwering the question, but I felt the need to talk about it, because I can't really answer the question without knowing what death is. as long as I don't know what to be afraid of, when it comes to death, how can I be scared?

Vikica
10-18-2008, 05:45 AM
as long as I don't know what to be afraid of, when it comes to death, how can I be scared?

the fear of death comes when a person still has some things in life to do or to finish but that's just my opinion.

JoY
10-18-2008, 06:21 AM
the fear of death comes when a person still has some things in life to do or to finish but that's just my opinion.
you seem to have a lot to live for, which is good. :] you said you're afraid you won't get to do all the things you wanted to do & I was wondering if you believe you'll be conscious of that fact & if yes, if it'll still be inacceptable by the point you can't change anything about your life the way you lived it anymore, when it doesn't at all belong to the options & is in no way in your capabilities. in a previous post you told us you think afterlife lasts as long as there remain earthly traces of your existence in memories & things. does afterlife the way you see it come with any kind of consciousness?

if anything, I'm scared I might end up in a situation where I can't do the things I want to do & finish the things I want to finish in a living state. I know I could more easily find a calm state of acceptance if I was at least dead, without even knowing what death is. I know I passively in the back of my mind fear a state in which life sucks so much, death becomes attractive compared to living & I long for it. not the kind of situation where I've got no more reason to live, but when I have reasons for not wanting to live.

what most people with fear of death seem to be afraid of, is that they'll be in pain when they die. that when they die, absolutely everything ends there (& consequently there are things you'll never get to do & people you'll never get to see again). that it's something we have absolutely no control over & god knows, everything out of our control is scary. that it's the absolute absence of life, which we can't comprehend & understand, just like there might be no borders to the universe, making it endless.

it's the pain, loss, lack of control & unknown people fear.

in the hospital & around me I've seen situations in which people suffer during life from their fear of death a whole lot more, than people actually suffering during the proces of dying. I fear suffering & of all things, I don't want to suffer from fear.

what I'm pretty much "afraid" of, is that the word & definition of death in our languages is a misconception of the phenomenon. language limits us by making us think in words we invented to label things with & their definition that we agreed on. it doesn't seem such a spooky thought at first, but imagine you're being carried away in a coffin, while you're still "in there", like that comatose woman. that thought does give me the chills.

dr.vanessa
10-19-2008, 04:45 AM
it's the pain, loss, lack of control & unknown people fear.
absolutelly correct...sometimes i think that the fear of death is a kind of a ''selfish'' fear..i've to admit that i've that ''selfish'' fear too...

in the hospital & around me I've seen situations in which people suffer during life from their fear of death a whole lot more, than people actually suffering during the proces of dying. I fear suffering & of all things, I don't want to suffer from fear..

indeed!what i've noticed in the clinc is that when ppl are really close to death the most of'em aren't really scared...it seems to be a normal physical passage from a situation to another..those who are not yet in a mechanism of death they're really afraid.

P.S:sorry if my english isn't really correct =)

Titus
10-19-2008, 07:14 AM
Im not scared of death at all.
They had some interisting theory in some old tv-show called john doe. They believed that when people is about to die,they get all the universe's questions are answered.
Somehow I want to believe that. I want answers!!

Bipolar Bear
10-19-2008, 10:54 AM
if I had to die now I'd accept it

dr.vanessa
10-19-2008, 11:02 AM
if I had to die now I'd accept it

a)if u had to die u wouldn't have a choice lol:D

b)DON'T DIE BUDDYYYYYYY:(:p

Bipolar Bear
10-19-2008, 07:44 PM
a)if u had to die u wouldn't have a choice lol:D

b)DON'T DIE BUDDYYYYYYY:(:p

No...I didn't say I'd die now..just hypothetically

Cock Joke
10-19-2008, 07:50 PM
Im not scared of death at all.
They had some interisting theory in some old tv-show called john doe. They believed that when people is about to die,they get all the universe's questions are answered.
Somehow I want to believe that. I want answers!!

Frikkin awesome! I'd run into a nursing home, run up to some dying guy and say, "Hey are there any Pizza Huts on the planet Neptune?"

Smash punker
10-19-2008, 07:55 PM
Afraid of dead stuff?! Maybe in 40 years, Ill think about that creepy shit, but not right now. :D Why dying, when theres a lot of living?! :D

dr.vanessa
10-21-2008, 07:54 AM
Afraid of dead stuff?! Maybe in 40 years, Ill think about that creepy shit, but not right now. Why dying, when theres a lot of living?! :D

Yup maybe you are right lol!

The worst thing though is that there are many little kids dying all around the world.:(

The Search Button
10-22-2008, 02:08 AM
I think that, surely, there is life after death.

We'll be just too busy dealing with worms, though.

KHWHD
10-22-2008, 03:39 AM
I used to not be afraid of death before my daughters were born. I always looked forward to seeing those that passed on (family members, friends) and to see them again. But now I'm afraid of death because I don't ever want to leave my babies behind even though one day it will happen.

Smash punker
10-28-2008, 02:54 AM
Dont worry, youll die sooner than them. :D Hope you like Black humour?!