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weezly
01-15-2009, 09:23 AM
i do, not all of u, but i am so sick of the offspring bashing on this site, i can say honestly rafrag is my fav album, and i cant see y u r all haters, but i mean most of the posts are negitive, dexter needs to loose weight?? why would someone post that, he has lost a lot of weight and looks fine!! the guys told me they come on here and dexter didnt say much but noodles told me its hard for him to look at the bbs, goddamn if u got negitive shit to say this is there house, they invite u in and u hate on them, but i bet u see em live and say u love them to there face, grow up ur either fans or ur not. if not get lost.

holland25
01-15-2009, 09:24 AM
Oh sweet Jesus...

RobinoZombie
01-15-2009, 09:29 AM
48posts and tired of Offspring bashing......

Dragnet
01-15-2009, 09:33 AM
stop being so negitive dude!

But you are right about the weight topic. Just like talking about their hair for the hundreth time or how sexy any one of them is, this shit is fuckin boring, besides for some 13 year old kids.

weezly
01-15-2009, 09:34 AM
ive posted 48 times, but ive followed this site since 99 man, and i have a point. people are talking so neg on here

findout5
01-15-2009, 09:39 AM
If people want to chat about the offspring - good or bad - this is the place.
Accept that and you'll live a happier life!

Oxygene
01-15-2009, 09:44 AM
48posts and tired of Offspring bashing......

The man said the offspring members don't post here because they hate all the negative shit directed against them, and you are concerned with his post count?

Dexter specifically told me (I think weezly was sort of there when we were talking about it...) that when he posted he was working on a song called whatever, people here said it was a stupid fucking title. And that is sooo fucking typical. I don't mind non offspirng fans posting on this board as long as they don't hurt the fans chances of interacting with the band.

Unfourtunatley that's not the reality, and anyone who says other wise is a stupid leet conspiracy paranoid idiot.

And it's not just the negativity against the band, it's the negativity against each other.. and I'll be the first one to say it.. I need to improve on that too.

Weezly is right.

Gustavo
01-15-2009, 09:49 AM
I think these "Dexter is fat", "Should Noodles cut his hair?" threads are ridicilous.
But these boards are about The Offspring, that's what should be talked about, whether the subject is good or not.

Grimesy da Offspringfan
01-15-2009, 10:01 AM
So what if the dude has 48 (49 :D) posts? why the fuck come on here on the bbs just to fucking talk shit about the band?

findout5
01-15-2009, 10:09 AM
The number of posts doesn't really measure how much a fan anyone is. I bet there's people who never came here and own every fucking cd - while others, might have like 1000 posts and own one or two cds.

Oxygene
01-15-2009, 10:15 AM
Guys, let's not let this thread get derailed, it's about a very serious topic.

Is it ok, if this board is as negative as it is?
Is it ok, if because of that negativity members of the band a "driven away"

Keep it on topic... I'd be interested to see what some people think of this.

findout5
01-15-2009, 10:32 AM
3 Words: Freedom of speech.

When The Offspring put out a record - wheter it's now or in 1986, they are aware that there might someone who praises it and someone who's gonna bash it! So, is the real reason why they don't use the Internet as they did, the fact that some fans have harsh opinions? I think not.

The truth is, they probably have more stuff to do! Dexter has The Offspring (songwriting), Nitro records, Gringo Bandito, Software designing, a flying habit, etc. He's pretty busy. And I'm sure Greg is spending time with his family - not that he ever did anyting remotely interesting to the website. Noodles has one or two kids in growing up stages, so they are occupied.

I miss Dexter on songs, Noodles Road Journal, www.offspringnation.com, etc. But those days are probably over.
I'm sure there's also cost issues - that's why we don't have pro photos from every show like on the CO1 days.

Also, not all criticism is a bad thing. Some of it is constructive.

That said, if ANYONE even bothers to fucking register and post, I'm sure they are fans - wheter their opinions are harsh or not.

Allow me to finish the way I started: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Beheaded
01-15-2009, 10:46 AM
Weezly, you are totally right.

Dragnet
01-15-2009, 10:55 AM
The man said the offspring members don't post here because they hate all the negative shit directed against them, and you are concerned with his post count?

Dexter specifically told me (I think weezly was sort of there when we were talking about it...) that when he posted he was working on a song called whatever, people here said it was a stupid fucking title. And that is sooo fucking typical. I don't mind non offspirng fans posting on this board as long as they don't hurt the fans chances of interacting with the band.

Unfourtunatley that's not the reality, and anyone who says other wise is a stupid leet conspiracy paranoid idiot.

And it's not just the negativity against the band, it's the negativity against each other.. and I'll be the first one to say it.. I need to improve on that too.

Weezly is right.


Whatever really is a shitty title!

weezly
01-15-2009, 10:59 AM
ok, lets say u grow ur hair out because u like it, or cut it because u like it and i write u a letter and say u look like a fucken homo, is it fair, and is it fair for there bbs to be used to say shit like that, or what if ur mrs told u u were 2 fat and to loose some fucken weight, theres ways of complaining, like i could say (i dont aggree with this its just eg) i wish the offspring wouldnt write slow songs like kristy, i dont like them as much, thats fair but to see these posts that resemble *ur only concerned about money ur fucken sell outs u just want sales u dlont care about ur fans* who can actually say as a band u would want that, there just trying there hardest and i like the result, u may not, but its how u say horrible smack about them, its y we were so lucky to have a meet n greet a oxy,

Rutegard
01-15-2009, 11:02 AM
it makes me sad thinking that they don't post here cause of all the spreading hate going on, as Oxy said, towards the band and between each other.

and it is really unfair that some non offspring fans get to come here and say all negative stuff about them, and then we all get to pay for that

but on the other hand, seems hard to believe that they don't post here cause some chicks or dudes say dex is fat and noods is too tall, that dex is blonde and should be burnette and that noodles should change his name or whatever, because i think that they are used to this trash talking, right?....

and dex what if someone says you should get back to your spike hair? or you should loose some weight? does that mean anything? of course not! we still love u! i mean, take me for example, i prefer the spiky hair, but do i love u less 'cause of that?!!? of course not! actually i think i care even more about u! when i say stuff like that i'm just giving an opinion...i'm not judging or anthing, guess what! i don't like my new hair either ;]

and noodles, seriously, what the fuck? everyone loves u!

Blitzkrieg Bop
01-15-2009, 12:53 PM
Thank you Weezly for bring this up and I totally agree with you. We are all here because we love The Offspring and I think that some positivity, respect and appreciation towards the band for all that they have done for us is definately required.

I get really tired of reading all the negative posts about one subject or another and I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion and should voice them, but I also find members who have negative things to say, do it all the time.

I suppose that it is much easier to be negative than positive and that is such a pity.

Thomas
01-15-2009, 01:30 PM
It's cool to hate.

Oxygene
01-15-2009, 01:38 PM
3 Words: Freedom of speech.


Dude you reasoning is totally flawed: first off having the right to do something does not make it right, cool or even OK to do it. I'll give you an example, you have the freedom (the right) to take a shit next to your moms head on her death bead.

I doubt that offspring band members have a problem with constructive criticism. When was the last time you saw something like that on the board? "What a stupid fucking song title?" You are defending that with the "freedom of speech" argument? Please, be serious.

And according to them this is the reason they don't use the boards. I'm sure they use the internet frequently, I'm pretty certain Dexter is addicted to his blackberry. What you think has little to do with what they do and why they do it. I am sorry, but you are just wrong.


Whatever really is a shitty title!

Um... what do you mean? I hope you weren't trying to be funny with a "Whatever" titled song or something, 'cause we're in deep shit if you were :)


its y we were so lucky to have a meet n greet a oxy,

Yeah? What did you say?


it makes me sad thinking that they don't post here cause of all the spreading hate going on, as Oxy said, towards the band and between each other.

and it is really unfair that some non offspring fans get to come here and say all negative stuff about them, and then we all get to pay for that

Yeah it really is unfair and I think something should be done about it, but whenever this shit gets aired, it's always classified as the "leet conspiracy craze".


I suppose that it is much easier to be negative than positive and that is such a pity.

It's cool to hate :)

RageAndLov
01-15-2009, 01:42 PM
It's cool to hate.

Yeah, but only if there is a reason to. It's ok to not like the new album, but to say the album sucks because you think Dexter's haircut makes him look like a 7th grade emo kid is not a reason to hate the album!

And all the loose weight and stuff can be really hurting. The members of the band have real human feelings like any other human being. Would you come up to their face after a show and tell dexter to cut his hair cuz he looks like an emo and that he is too fat? If so, then you are a very poor fan. Who cares about Dexter's body? Isn't it the music we love this band for?

I think the reason we have gotten all this hate threads is because almost everything is been discussed, so some bored lonely soles haven't got anything better than to bash the band they're supposed to like. What's the point? If you're bored, go to youtube and waste your time or watch porn. Don't be a dick!

Thomas
01-15-2009, 01:43 PM
Also, freedom of speech does not apply here. Freedom of speech goes to the publisher, not the writer. In this case, the BBS and it's admins are the publishers. They have absolutely every right to delete stupid posts, but they are gracious enough to let all the idiots run loose in this place.

Oxygene
01-15-2009, 01:45 PM
One of the problems is if we let some shit slide we need to let all the shit slide... And as long as there are members here who are allowed to behave anywhich way they please a lot of the dumb n00bs are gonna take the liberty to do that. Hence u get a fucked up a board.

We need to get along and be nice to each other.

Rutegard
01-15-2009, 01:49 PM
We need to get along and be nice to each other.

i believe this is already starting to happen...at least those haters are gone. i never saw them anymore! did you?

OKAY, i edit my post, we will see them again when kristy video comes out... :| always the same...

Thomas
01-15-2009, 01:50 PM
Or let the mods go all apeshit Authoritarian on our asses. I'd be totally cool with that.

Oxygene
01-15-2009, 01:53 PM
Or let the mods go all apeshit Authoritarian on our asses. I'd be totally cool with that.

I don't mind being put back in my place if I get out of line, I know I do sometimes.. as long as it's the greater good. But this double standardish shit we have going on now is wrong, and I think it's the breeding ground for all this negativity.

Rutegard
01-15-2009, 01:55 PM
I don't mind being put back in my place if I get out of line, I know I do sometimes.. as long as it's the greater good. But this double standardish shit we have going on now is wrong, and I think it's the breeding ground for all this negativity.

yeah but the forum civil war is over. now we need to put it all back together! and wait for this new album thing to pass, and i believe this is gonna become peacefull as in the old days!

renato piquette
01-15-2009, 01:58 PM
it makes me sad thinking that they don't post here cause of all the spreading hate going on, as Oxy said, towards the band and between each other.

and it is really unfair that some non offspring fans get to come here and say all negative stuff about them, and then we all get to pay for that

but on the other hand, seems hard to believe that they don't post here cause some chicks or dudes say dex is fat and noods is too tall, that dex is blonde and should be burnette and that noodles should change his name or whatever, because i think that they are used to this trash talking, right?....

and dex what if someone says you should get back to your spike hair? or you should loose some weight? does that mean anything? of course not! we still love u! i mean, take me for example, i prefer the spiky hair, but do i love u less 'cause of that?!!? of course not! actually i think i care even more about u! when i say stuff like that i'm just giving an opinion...i'm not judging or anthing, guess what! i don't like my new hair either ;]

and noodles, seriously, what the fuck? everyone loves u!

yeah,and what about Greg? he rules!

Rutegard
01-15-2009, 02:00 PM
yeah,and what about Greg? he rules!

of course!! but usually ppl complain more about noodles and dex hair and stupid shit like that...
what a bunch of faggots!

renato piquette
01-15-2009, 02:01 PM
i believe this is already starting to happen...at least those haters are gone. i never saw them anymore! did you?

OKAY, i edit my post, we will see them again when kristy video comes out... :| always the same...

i`m already praying not to be a hater....,but really,i don`t like that song...

Rutegard
01-15-2009, 02:03 PM
i`m already praying not to be a hater....,but really,i don`t like that song...

erm....okay.....but still the video can be great! and everyone has the right not to like some songs, or albums, or whatever, they just dont have to be mean and suck out all the positiveness in this forum! thats my point! thats all!

Dragnet
01-15-2009, 03:15 PM
Um... what do you mean? I hope you weren't trying to be funny with a "Whatever" titled song or something, 'cause we're in deep shit if you were :)





I tried to be funny and failed miserably... :)

one hundred punks
01-16-2009, 01:12 AM
This is nothing. The GNR boards ripped Axl a new one for canceling shows, his hair, ten years for Chinese Democracy, etc. and he still came on and talked to his fans last month.

The Offspring are all multimillionaires in their 40's. They should want to interact with their fans regardless of how negative it is here.Do they only wanna talk with people who kiss their asses? RAFRAG sales how that the fanbase isn't what it once was, so the band might wanna take a few mins to talk to the hardcore fans on here that they have left.

findout5
01-16-2009, 04:04 AM
People should be free to express their opinions. There should be some moderation as how they express it. But if there's a topic and I don't like for instance, a video, I should be able to express it! And so should others.

And I also think the almost-groupie of ass-kissing is really sad and lame. How fucking retarded does someone have to be to always agree on everysingle thing this band does?
"I wanna hang out with the band!" Fuck that. I'm into their music - that is the MOST important thing, not kissing their asses. I'm sure they are all people that have stuff I like and don't like - just like everyone else in the board.
Asskissing just to "have a moment" is not the way.

Has it ever occurred to you guys that sometimes they do need constructive criticism? Not stuff like "cut your hair", but like "make a video that you're on, so it will get more airplay".

Free?
01-16-2009, 04:17 AM
People should be free to express their opinions. There should be some moderation as how they express it. But if there's a topic and I don't like for instance, a video, I should be able to express it! And so should others.
Very true. But you should criticize in a constructive way I must add.


How fucking retarded does someone have to be to always agree on everysingle thing this band does?


I'm one of those who agreed on every single thing the band did, even Hammerhead video ;]. In my opinion they haven't done anything wrong. Is that retarded? :p

findout5
01-16-2009, 04:27 AM
It might not be retarded, if you assume your blind love for Dexter :p

Free?
01-16-2009, 04:31 AM
Haha, well, maybe that's the reason.

Oxygene
01-16-2009, 05:39 AM
This is nothing. The GNR boards ripped Axl a new one for canceling shows, his hair, ten years for Chinese Democracy, etc. and he still came on and talked to his fans last month.

The Offspring are all multimillionaires in their 40's. They should want to interact with their fans regardless of how negative it is here.Do they only wanna talk with people who kiss their asses? RAFRAG sales how that the fanbase isn't what it once was, so the band might wanna take a few mins to talk to the hardcore fans on here that they have left.

Um, Axl did what he did as a publicity stunt.. a pose if you will. He shouldn't be made an exmple.

They do interact with their fans, a whole lot more than the MAJORITY of all bands (not just successful ones), how they choose to do it is their business.

Gayman
01-16-2009, 06:31 AM
Well....everybody has the right to say what they want in here. Was it Dexter's weight or what ever.
I personally don't understand all the talk about these things either, but I don't have to read the thread that concernes these thing's, so it doesn't matter. So my tip to people sick of those kind of threads ans stuff, ignore them.

findout5
01-16-2009, 07:07 AM
Right on gayman! No one is forced to "feed" bad threads!

Oxygene
01-16-2009, 08:38 AM
Right on gayman! No one is forced to "feed" bad threads!

feeding bad threads and ignoring bad threads <> suffering the consequences of their existance.

findout5
01-16-2009, 09:35 AM
feeding bad threads and ignoring bad threads <> suffering the consequences of their existance.

Elaborate more on that.

Thomas
01-16-2009, 09:43 AM
He's trying to say that just because we ignore the incredibly negative threads and posts, it doesn't mean that we don't pay the consequences. If the band reads them, they are going to be MUCH less inclined to post here, give updates, etc. Those of us who ignore those stupid threads have done nothing wrong, but still have to pay the price for those threads.

findout5
01-16-2009, 09:45 AM
Well, I didn't ask you...lady! Now did I?

Tomasisko
01-16-2009, 10:09 AM
Maybe Dexter and Noodles have fake nicks here. They see everything and they know everything :D

Oxygene
01-16-2009, 10:13 AM
He's trying to say that just because we ignore the incredibly negative threads and posts, it doesn't mean that we don't pay the consequences. If the band reads them, they are going to be MUCH less inclined to post here, give updates, etc. Those of us who ignore those stupid threads have done nothing wrong, but still have to pay the price for those threads.

what he said

Thomas
01-16-2009, 10:43 AM
Well, I didn't ask you...lady! Now did I?


what he said

Yeah, Findout5, I was being nice and answering his question when he was offline. Turns out I was right, too. Don't be a jackass.

Oxygene
01-16-2009, 11:51 AM
Yeah, Findout5, I was being nice and answering his question when he was offline. Turns out I was right, too. Don't be a jackass.

I just agreed with a 1337 does that make me 1337.. ? :D

Thomas
01-16-2009, 02:38 PM
wait. Did I just get called an 1337?


Oh, what a warm, fuzzy feeling it is...

T-6005
01-16-2009, 03:07 PM
wait. Did I just get called an 1337?


Oh, what a warm, fuzzy feeling it is...

*Whooooosh*

an 1337?!?

*Whooooosh*

findout5
01-16-2009, 05:17 PM
Now...this just got bizarre!

Bipolar Bear
01-16-2009, 05:25 PM
wait. Did I just get called an 1337?


Oh, what a warm, fuzzy feeling it is...

How lucky you are...the envy..
How I wish someone would call me a 1337!

Thomas
01-16-2009, 05:27 PM
How lucky you are...the envy..
How I wish someone would call me a 1337!

Well, if it makes you feel any better, you're about as "1337" as I am...

Bipolar Bear
01-16-2009, 05:29 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better, you're about as "1337" as I am...

-wipes tear-
that's the nicest thing someone ever told me...

Thomas
01-16-2009, 05:33 PM
how sad...

:(:(:(

Gayman
01-16-2009, 08:17 PM
Mind me asking....what's a "1337"?

Ninty Man
01-16-2009, 09:08 PM
Mind me asking....what's a "1337"?

If I'm correct, is elite

WebDudette
01-16-2009, 09:27 PM
Have they looked at youtube comments lately? Thats just the way the world works. If they are really concerned about the state of the board I would expect them to confront people about it or make an effort to change it. Not just complain.

Oxygene
01-17-2009, 01:29 AM
Have they looked at youtube comments lately? Thats just the way the world works. If they are really concerned about the state of the board I would expect them to confront people about it or make an effort to change it. Not just complain.

Well just because that's the way the world works, they don't have to accept it. It wasn't always the case anyway, it can work normally. I wouldn't expect them to confront attention seeking asshats, I would expect them to use the limited time they have to interact with the fans optimally and divert their attention to those who deserve it, and I think they do a pretty good job of it.

I totally understand Dexter not wanting to get into an argument and post stuff like:
"Gee thanks for your opinion but I don't think "Takes me nowhere" is a stupid title at all"..

What would the point of that be?

Free?
01-17-2009, 03:04 AM
So that song was Takes Me Nowhere... I was pretty sure it was Stuff Is Messed Up that received the most negative comments about how bad song title it is.

randman21
01-17-2009, 04:09 AM
So that song was Takes Me Nowhere... I was pretty sure it was Stuff Is Messed Up that received the most negative comments about how bad song title it is.
Yeah, it was definitely Take Me Nowhere. Back in like 2006 when Dexter post the journal with the title and some lyrics.

Boy, that song turned out so different that I thought. And I'm glad.

Oxygene
01-17-2009, 04:26 AM
So that song was Takes Me Nowhere... I was pretty sure it was Stuff Is Messed Up that received the most negative comments about how bad song title it is.

I was guessing it was takes me nowhere I don't know..

Free?
01-17-2009, 04:40 AM
Randman made it clear. I wasn't even here in 2006 so I couldn't know that, I remembered the time in 2008 when RAFRAG song titles were unveiled and SIMU was bashed quite much back then.

Ehm.. How the fuck Takes Me Nowhere can be a bad song title? :confused:

Oxygene
01-17-2009, 04:44 AM
Randman made it clear. I wasn't even here in 2006 so I couldn't know that, I remembered the time in 2008 when RAFRAG song titles were unveiled and SIMU was bashed quite much back then.

Ehm.. How the fuck Takes Me Nowhere can be a bad song title? :confused:

I think you might be missing the point completely.. I think :)

WebDudette
01-17-2009, 05:10 PM
If they don't want to do anything about it thats fine. But then they shouldn't be complaining. Yes, I think it is a bad thing for people to trash talk a band on the bands own forum but it happens.

Cock Joke
01-17-2009, 05:45 PM
The band never complained, did they?

WebDudette
01-17-2009, 05:52 PM
weezly said they did.

chicapowerpunk
01-17-2009, 06:31 PM
Hell, Dexter is very sexy, but I think this court is not entirely wrong, what matters is that Dexy and hard to get into it like tacos, hamburgers and hot dogs.
I predict it will happen a long time in the gym, I can only say one thing, which is watch your beautiful face.

Gayman
01-17-2009, 08:01 PM
If I'm correct, is elite

Thanks dude

Thomas
01-17-2009, 08:32 PM
Hell, Dexter is very sexy, but I think this court is not entirely wrong, what matters is that Dexy and hard to get into it like tacos, hamburgers and hot dogs.
I predict it will happen a long time in the gym, I can only say one thing, which is watch your beautiful face.

ummm.... what?

Oxygene
01-18-2009, 12:41 AM
weezly said they did.

No they didn't.. weezly was semi part of my conversation with Dexter, and I asked him why they didn't post here at all anymore, and he answered.

I didn't hear his convo with Noodles, but I highly doubt Noodles would complain. Weezly prolly asked him and Noodles answered.

MoonTan™
01-18-2009, 12:56 AM
I was guessing it was takes me nowhere I don't know..

No it was stuff is messed up, before the album was released
and there was that "Live streaming web cam"
it showed a caption on one of the pictures that said
"stuff is messed up" and everybody was like
"that can't be a song name, its shit"
and other people were like "i bet there is a technical problem" .

Oxygene
01-18-2009, 01:08 AM
No it was stuff is messed up, before the album was released
and there was that "Live streaming web cam"
it showed a caption on one of the pictures that said
"stuff is messed up" and everybody was like
"that can't be a song name, its shit"
and other people were like "i bet there is a technical problem" .

Dexter said almost these exact words

"If I say "Hey I'm working on a song called so-and-so" and peoples response is "that's a stupid title".. you know.."

So there.. now everyone knows exactly what I know. We can all guess...

edit: my guess is it isn't outlandish that it had to easily might've happened on a number of occasions, for it to have affected Dexter so much, so more likely than not, both would be educated guesses.

jacknife737
01-18-2009, 01:10 AM
If they don't want to do anything about it thats fine. But then they shouldn't be complaining. Yes, I think it is a bad thing for people to trash talk a band on the bands own forum but it happens.

I was under the assumption, that the new forum rules, were implemented due to the band's (or at least their management's) displeasure over the current state of the forums.

Oxygene
01-18-2009, 01:11 AM
I was under the assumption, that the new forum rules, were implemented due to the band's (or at least their management's) displeasure over the current state of the forums.

They were, I'm just not sure it was enough, although this place is a lot better.

holland25
01-18-2009, 06:23 AM
I wouldn't say that it is A LOT OF better. But it is better.

findout5
01-18-2009, 06:35 AM
A goog board is a board where people can share media - not official though. That's the most important thing.