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Superdope
01-16-2009, 03:35 AM
It's going down people.

Working on demos right now. 6-7 songs, currently working on making the first one as bitchin' as possible. I don't quite know how any of the songs are going to end up, but so far I'm happy.

Although I'm doing these by myself, I've finally managed to gather enough people for a band. We're currently looking for a place to practice.

Good times, people, good times.

ad8
01-16-2009, 12:13 PM
Yeah, playing in a band is one of the better things in life:)
I'm curious about your stuff. When will we get to hear the first demos? What are you going to play?

Superdope
01-16-2009, 12:17 PM
The way things are going now, I'll probably have an instrumental version of the first demo, tentatively titled "Algorithmic Logic", done this weekend.

pretentiousness? check.

Superdope
01-17-2009, 01:59 PM
Double-post, because that's how I roll.

I really, really, really fucking love the first demo. I'm going to post an instrumental version either today or tomorrow, depending on some other stuff. I hope you will like it!

Static_Martyr
01-17-2009, 04:22 PM
Yes, please do! I need another really, really indie band to follow.

Rooster
01-17-2009, 05:35 PM
Hell yes, dude! I hope to hear something from you soon!

It's a great feeling to have a band indeed, and we're also working on a few songs for demo (self-destruction and a few other songs), which i hope will be ready soon. But currently i'm also busy with studying for my exams, so i don't have as much time for songs anymore. But that's about to change, i'll have more time in february again... We also need to start practising regulary (we'll rent a place to practice, drummer knows a guy who has a place to rent, and it doesn't cost that much). But i guess that demo could be recorded even before practising (each just records his part and then we'd put them together - i found out this works pretty well).

Anyway, great to see that another BBS member formed a band :)

Superdope
01-18-2009, 10:15 AM
FUCK!

I was almost finished, when Audacity decided to die on me. motherfucker! I only needed a little bit of editing anyway, so check back in 10 minutes, and I'll have it up.

Here (http://www.sendspace.com/file/skykw3) it is guys. This is a very rough Instrumental version of my first demo Arithmetic Logic. I'm gonna redo the guitars; some places they are just way too sloppy, but I uploade this, so you guys could get the gist of the song. There's a bunch of little things I wanna do too, and of course, there's the lyrics (which I am working on).

Please enjoy and give me plenty of feedback.

EDIT: I tinkered with the timing in the song a bit. At least it's not as intolerably bad as before. I also added the sound of a fax machine sending something, which I will probably take out again.

Static_Martyr
01-18-2009, 12:20 PM
I can see this as the world's most bad-ass final boss theme in an RPG.

That is a good thing, BTW. Metallicious~

Free?
01-18-2009, 01:32 PM
Based on those three albums you've uploaded earlier, I've built some expectations of what will your music sound like. I must say I wasn't wrong ;]. I imagined that sort of indie-stoner-psychedelic-experimental jam which would be far from radio-friendly. The only thing I didn't expect was that heavy rhythm guitar tune. Also the "chorus" part (from like 1:30) was messy and seemed off sync, but overall I'm pleased! Can't wait to listen the final version with vocals.

Superdope
01-18-2009, 01:51 PM
Also the "chorus" part (from like 1:30) was messy and seemed off sync, but overall I'm pleased! Can't wait to listen the final version with vocals.

I know, it's messy as hell and completely out of sync :P. What I uploaded was basically just a gudieline for me when I'm doing the final cut. I just remembered that I said I would upload something this weekend, and a status-report is better than nothing at all.

And thanks for the comments guys. Means a lot to me :)

Rooster
01-18-2009, 02:10 PM
I can see this song is going to be great when it's finished. It has a lot of potential. heavy, balls-out rock, just as i expected from you. Good work, keep it up :)

_Lost_
01-19-2009, 04:37 PM
this is pretty righteous dude! I approve!

ad8
01-20-2009, 05:53 AM
I like the song. I won't complain about the quality and stuff since you mentioned that this was basically just a guideline for the final cut. I wonder how the final version will turn out.

randman21
01-21-2009, 04:58 AM
I listened to this the other day, but I forgot to comment. I know what I want to say in my head, but I can't think of the words. Heh, it's a good thing anyway. I like how you use weird sounds and such in your recordings. It's definitely different and cool. Having any luck coming up with lyrics?

Superdope
01-23-2009, 07:02 AM
Having any luck coming up with lyrics?

I have been extremely busy with school lately, so I haven't had the time to just dive into this as much as I wanted. The lyrics themselves are coming along nicely, but I'm struggling with finding out how to sing them.

Superdope
02-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Okay.

Originally, I was going to save this song for the next BBS Mixtape, but seeing as it's a cover, and the original stuff I'm working on is coming along nicey, I thought I'd post it here instead. feel free to download it, if you're so inclined.

Leg of Lamb (QotSA Cover) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/atpyhn)

Free?
02-08-2009, 03:14 AM
Wow, that's actually pretty damn awesome. Vocals and backvocals are so good, also love the guitar tune. Professionally done, really close to the original.
So, is Cpt. Obvious your band's official name?

Superdope
02-08-2009, 03:32 AM
Glad you liked it :)

Heh, and our band name isn't Cpt. Obvious. We haven't really given it any thought yet. That was just the first thing that popped into my head when I was mixing the song, and it needed an artist title.

randman21
02-08-2009, 04:38 AM
'Sup. Well, you already know how I feel about the song (it's awesome, for those who aren't me or Superdope). Great job, amigo.

Rooster
02-08-2009, 06:11 PM
You sent me this one a while ago, but i'll say it again: it's fantastic. It's very true to the original song. Awesome work.

Superdope
08-27-2009, 02:34 PM
Update tomorrow, folks.

Superdope
08-28-2009, 09:49 AM
Update cometh:

A new song. This song has been begging me to be made forever.
I want to redo one of the guitars before I do some vocals, and start putting the finishing touches on this, but nevertheless, here it is:

March of the Mammoths (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ymel1k)

EDIT: uploaded to zshare, so you don't have to download it first: http://www.zshare.net/audio/647880579f20aa0b/

Free?
08-28-2009, 03:02 PM
Wow, you must've stolen Fatso Jetson's demo song from their future album. Which deserves nothing less than a ton o luv.

Superdope
08-28-2009, 03:13 PM
Wow, thanks. Comparing me to one of my favorite bands is quite an honor.

I still need to put a solo in there, by the first acoustic part, and then of course the vocals. Lyrics are already done, and I'm pretty happy with them. Good times man, good times.

coke_a_holic
08-28-2009, 03:44 PM
I really like the ideas here; the shuffle beat, the high-end bass, the distorted-clean dynamic changes. There was only thing that bothered me, but I should've expected it because it was in the title... it's definitely a rough cut. You should try to make the transitions either completely fucking ridiculous or easier.

Let me clarify, if I possibly could: keep everything essentially the same, but watch out for when it changes from verse to chorus or chorus to bridge, because a lot of the sounds drop out, and it leaves a hole there.

But yeah, overall, I'd say it's a really cool idea and I'd like to see how it fleshes out.

EDIT: Oh, and you have the same problem that I do when I make drum beats: they always sound wayyy too crisp in comparison to the dirty, fuzzy bass and guitar; try messing with the equalizer to make those drums sound more in place.

Superdope
08-29-2009, 06:42 AM
I really like the ideas here; the shuffle beat, the high-end bass, the distorted-clean dynamic changes. There was only thing that bothered me, but I should've expected it because it was in the title... it's definitely a rough cut. You should try to make the transitions either completely fucking ridiculous or easier.

Let me clarify, if I possibly could: keep everything essentially the same, but watch out for when it changes from verse to chorus or chorus to bridge, because a lot of the sounds drop out, and it leaves a hole there.

But yeah, overall, I'd say it's a really cool idea and I'd like to see how it fleshes out.

EDIT: Oh, and you have the same problem that I do when I make drum beats: they always sound wayyy too crisp in comparison to the dirty, fuzzy bass and guitar; try messing with the equalizer to make those drums sound more in place.

I'm not entirely sure I get what you're saying. Do you mean that, when going from chorus-verse (just an example), there's a splitsecond without sound, or do you mean that the volume changes don't quite fit?

Or is it that there's a difference between the distorted guitar and the acoustic that needs to be taken care of?

coke_a_holic
08-29-2009, 11:56 AM
Hm, I'm so bad at wording this... I'm sorry, let me give it another shot, haha. I'll try to be specific, this time:

At 1:28, the bass-heavy, syncopated chorus stops, and a clean guitar, bright part starts, but the contrast is very heavy, yet you treat it like it's an every day thing. You gotta embrace this change! You could make it more intense by adding drum fills and distorted guitars and tremolo picking on the bass right up until the clean guitar enters, then have everything stop at once to show that the chorus has ended and we're moving somewhere else, then have it come back in for the verse.

And the other point: at 1:56, the guitar goes from clean to distorted, which removes all of the higher frequencies from the song (because nothing else is playing those higher notes). You should try having both clean and distorted guitars at once there, I think it would sound BALLIN'.

Obviously, I don't just mean those two points, but those are the first two of the song, and they happen often. I hope this helped... but I can hardly read it myself, so good luck. <3

Superdope
08-29-2009, 02:27 PM
Hm, I'm so bad at wording this... I'm sorry, let me give it another shot, haha. I'll try to be specific, this time:

At 1:28, the bass-heavy, syncopated chorus stops, and a clean guitar, bright part starts, but the contrast is very heavy, yet you treat it like it's an every day thing. You gotta embrace this change! You could make it more intense by adding drum fills and distorted guitars and tremolo picking on the bass right up until the clean guitar enters, then have everything stop at once to show that the chorus has ended and we're moving somewhere else, then have it come back in for the verse.

And the other point: at 1:56, the guitar goes from clean to distorted, which removes all of the higher frequencies from the song (because nothing else is playing those higher notes). You should try having both clean and distorted guitars at once there, I think it would sound BALLIN'.

Obviously, I don't just mean those two points, but those are the first two of the song, and they happen often. I hope this helped... but I can hardly read it myself, so good luck. <3

Ah, I think I get it. It's not the recording per se, but you want the changes in dynamics to be given more attention, correct? At first I thought you meant a silence in the recording, as if the pieces weren't matched properly.

Well that particular part you were talking about will be dealt with, because I'm going to be soloing my pants off there, with the distorted guitar. the transitions should be fixed then ;)

Thanks for explaining it further.

randman21
09-02-2009, 02:45 AM
Heh, you've got such a smooth ass sound, man. Very confident. I imagine this song playing during the climactic poker scene of a casino movie or something. Sorry, I don't have much else to say, but I'm sure I will once the final version comes through. Oh, and I like the ending!

spiquare
09-10-2009, 07:19 PM
I'm very interested! I would love to find out more inforamtion related to this topic. Thanks in advance.
me too, I need more detailed info

dexter12296566
09-10-2009, 07:22 PM
Yeah, playing in a band is one of the better things in life:)
I'm curious about your stuff. When will we get to hear the first demos? What are you going to play?

I would like to hear your music, too. I also enjoy playing in a band.

Superdope
10-05-2009, 12:05 PM
Lo and behold! I've finished a demo today. Vocals are a little shoddy here and there, but I know we'll rerecord the whole ordeal very soon, so I refuse to put more work into it. I tried to adress some of the stuff that Mike talked about, making the transitions clearer.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/6653226518aa8909/


Headphones would be preferable

Here's the lyrics:

Youíre treading water on the beaten path
Either by choice, or bound and gagged
You can have your riches if you let me keep my rags

You see, I scavenged this over the years
Timeís merciless grinding of gears
It might not amount to much, but itís mine all mine and you canít have it

March of the mammoths to behold the golden idol
It ainít all itís cracked up to be
All the things that they think theyíre entitled
Donít be afraid to save some of your dignity

Blindfolded as you drag through the curve
No hesitation, boy, itís first come, first served
Youíre a slave to the majority, the lowest common denominator

Act now, it could be your last chance
Get on your knees and show them your hands
The less resistance, kid, the easier the process will get

March of the mammoths to behold the golden idol
It ainít all itís cracked up to be
All the things that you think youíre entitled
I guess itís too late


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And yes, I am aware of the irony of writing a song about choosing your own path, and thereby doing something that many have done before. I KNO, OKAY!?

EDIT: Because I had a lot of time on my hands the other day, I decided to do some artwork. One of the things that I did was this cover for our ep, which will include the song above. I did this in photoshop, and I have no idea how to do stuff in photoshop, so I'm quite proud:

http://i36.tinypic.com/ngsqjb.jpg

Free?
10-05-2009, 01:41 PM
They lyrics make me jeluz! I love how every component fits the whole composition, "marching" rhythm guitar + bass line magic especially, I dunno, but to me this song sounds like a professionally done desert rock, well, eh, excluding vocals. They surely get better after few listens, but there are some quite noticeable off-moments but I get the vibe of what they are meant to be. Either way, I'm hooked by now!
Yeah, headphones make it better.

Superdope
10-05-2009, 02:41 PM
They lyrics make me jeluz! I love how every component fits the whole composition, "marching" rhythm guitar + bass line magic especially, I dunno, but to me this song sounds like a professionally done desert rock, well, eh, excluding vocals. They surely get better after few listens, but there are some quite noticeable off-moments but I get the vibe of what they are meant to be. Either way, I'm hooked by now!
Yeah, headphones make it better.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'll probably go back and tinker with the vocals if I ever have some spare time. It's starting to bug me :P

coke_a_holic
10-05-2009, 07:57 PM
Yo, I'm totally into the changes (especially at 2:53, that was EXACTLY what I was looking for at that moment). Overall, the drums sound spacey and ridiculous with all that reverb, and the guitars are crunchy and it's a hot tune. I think you got the exact sounds that you were going for, and that says a lot.

I'm just gonna add that the vocals themselves don't need too much work, like other people are saying, I think that it's the recording of them that would really add to their power and make them sound the way you want.

Try turning up the reverb on them a little ways up, compressing them to SHIT, equalizing them (more below), and recording them using the full power of your voice.

I can tell by listening to the recording that you recorded the vocals kind of quietly (the gain is turned up high, and it sounds like you're using your speaking voice in some places), and that can add to the "out of tune" problems that people are having (but that really doesn't matter, let's be realistic, I think that your singing is exactly where it needs to be). But, more importantly, until you get your whole body pushing the words out of your mouth, the vocal recordings are not going to feel right. I suggest waiting until no one is home and then just letting the fuck loose while recording, hombre. I guarantee you'll get a better recording out of it.

Also, my suggestions for equalizing vocals are, approximately:


200hz - raise to get more full sound, lower to reduce muddiness/too much bass on the vocals

3khz - remove to get rid of the "breath" noises you might make while singing, this will also help your "out of tune" (yeah right) vocals. Basically, you want this kind of low.

10khz - raise to make your vocals brighter (to counter the higher 200hz).

Again, those are general frequencies; not necessarily the EXACT ones, but those regions on the scale.

Superdope
10-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Mike, you're right, the mic is as crappy as they come. I have a semi decent one that the other guitarist/vocalist is borrowing, so I actually recorded this with the built-in mic in my laptop. As you might have guessed it makes for a lot of background noise which needs to be removed, hurting the audio even more.

And I tried some EQ-ing on the vocal track. It sounds like it did wonders, thanks.

EDIT: link coming up

Superdope
10-06-2009, 03:54 PM
There's some very small problems with the vocals, but I did some EQ-ing in Adobe Audtion, and it's tons better than Audacity (for a reason, I know). I also think the recording is slightly better now.

March of the Mammoths _Demo_.mp3 - 4.32MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/665834670e377508/)

Rooster
10-06-2009, 04:10 PM
Turned out pretty good. Maybe vocals sound a bit (but just a bit) muffled, but that could be fixed, i'm sure. I think that (in the process of mastering tracks, i read it somewhere) vocals are usually compressed separately, usually the lower frequencies are cut (to get rid of that muffled sound). It's best to do this with multiband compression i think, it's easier to control the range of all different frequencies than with an equalizer, but it can be tricky. Or maybe you can edit them in the "edit view" by applying the mastering effect (it's one of the effects), you have a lot of presets there - just choose the one that sounds the best and then you can edit it a bit to get the sound you want. There are many possibilities with that program, it's really awesome.

Anyway, good to hear some progress, keep on!

Free?
10-07-2009, 12:24 PM
The second vocals version is kinda softer and blends better with the track.

Superdope
10-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Heh, I uploaded the wrong one. You should see the folder i keep it in. A mess.

Here's the real one. I took some time to finetune everything. There were some parts that didn't quite synch up, but it's fixed now.This is as good as it gets, with these recordings.

March of the Mammoths _Demo_.mp3 - 6.51MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/666843991823127f/)

GuitarCrazyo
10-26-2009, 08:11 AM
Thats really cool.I can imagine what you mean when you described the feeling of being there.Those steps look painful to climb though.

Superdope
10-26-2009, 01:35 PM
I have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about sir. Could you fill me in? bot?