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Autonomist
01-28-2010, 09:41 AM
Alright, so, due to a decrease in both my level of Offspring fandom/admiration and just these boards in general I haven't hung out in these parts in a minute. I do miss being part of a forum though, and there really isn't any other one I can think of that I'd want to join, so I thought I'd try it back here and see how I go. One of my favourite threads of old was the hip hop one that disappeared for whatever reason at whatever time, and since it was such a solid read I thought I'd bring the beat back.

Any hip hop discussion welcome. Who's dope, who's wack, who're the all time greats, what's good of what's currently out/coming out, y'know all the like! A few favourites top of my head would include CunninLynguists, Gang Starr, Nas, Mos Def, Tonedeff, Masta Ace, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Wu-Tang, Hilltop Hoods, Pharoahe Monch, Royce Da 5'9", Black Milk, J Dilla, Marco Polo... and a whole lot of etcs to follow.

Eminem's always a popular one... what's he up to at the moment? Relapse 2's supposedly coming this year. Wasn't too big on Relapse 1 but from what I've heard he's taking it in a different direction, and if his verses on "Forever" and Lil Wayne's "Drop the World" are any indication of that said direction I'll be stoked to hear it.

Looking forward to the next Nas album, a collaborative with Damian Marley. As We Enter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0CNZoXqaJg), first song leaked from it, is certified dopeness.

And that'll do me for now. Go go go!

ad8
01-28-2010, 09:45 AM
I'm not really into the US hip hop anymore.
I used to listen to Snoop Dogg, Eminem and most of the stuff that was popular in the nineties but I'm pretty much bored by the monotony of recent US hip hop. Eminem still rocks, though.
Also, there's some funny german hip hop that I occasionally listen to.

Llamas
01-28-2010, 10:47 AM
I like pretentious political rap, mostly. You know, Atmosphere (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbEwHJX95QE), Brother Ali (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO18F4aKGzQ) (not the best flow, but I love his lyrics), Flobots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8xTOadn1n0)...

Otherwise, I really love Jay Z, as far as super famous MTV rap goes. Black Album is definitely his best work. I loved Eminem's first two or three albums, but then I got really bored.

I'm also into Lupe Fiasco, Saul Williams, and Buck 65... they were all recommended here, but I don't remember who recommended what. There was tons of rap recommended to me, but those were the only three I really dig - especially Buck 65.

Edit: ad8, I love Fanta4 soooooooo much - The "Fornika" album is fabulous. What other good german rap groups are there?

Vera
01-28-2010, 01:17 PM
I'm big on Lupe. I also have Nas' Illmatic and have listened it to a fair lot.

One of my favourite bands is a Korean hiphop group Epik High, with bilingual songs. (Mostly Korean, some in English.)

Autonomist
10-15-2010, 05:47 PM
Did everybody like Eminem's latest album? There were a few too many soft beats and crappy sung hooks for my liking, but overall he sounded refreshingly re-energised and it was by far his best since The Eminem Show. He absolutely killed Lil Wayne on "No Love."

Best hip hop album for me this year, aside from PackFM and Big Boi - Kno's "Death Is Silent." The production is so out of this world, reminds me of DJ Shadow if nothing else. Streaming here - do yourselves a favour:

http://cunninlynguists.bandcamp.com/album/death-is-silent

Retard
10-15-2010, 09:03 PM
Big Boi's albums is fucking awesome. probably my favorite hip-hop album of the year. I really don't listen to as much as i'd like to. I get distracted. I think part of it is that albums can be long... and I never have the time to listen to a whole hour long album at once. I've bought a couple Madlib albums this year, He's such a great DJ, and of course DJ Shadow is the shit. Donuts by J Dilla is probably one of my favorite Hip hop albums period. Fucking love that thing.

I'm looking forward to Kanye's new one. Power is such a great song! Hope the rest is just as good.

ad8
10-17-2010, 02:38 AM
Did everybody like Eminem's latest album? There were a few too many soft beats and crappy sung hooks for my liking, but overall he sounded refreshingly re-energised and it was by far his best since The Eminem Show. He absolutely killed Lil Wayne on "No Love."
I didn't really like it that much... although I've only listened to it once apart from Not Afraid. There were some really good songs on the album but all in all it was just too much soft and overly emotional personal stuff and not enough of the old provocative anti-everything Eminem in there in my opinion.

Retard
10-19-2010, 11:21 PM
I still havent heard the whole album....

I heard THANK ME LATER by Drake the other day..... wasn't that impressed. Is it one of those growers? I dont know if i could really sit through it again.


Anyone else like "How I got Over" by the Roots?

Alison
10-22-2010, 10:24 AM
Only thing relatively hip hop that I like Is Dan le Sac vs Scroobius Pip. Intelligent hip hop:)

nameless
10-22-2010, 06:16 PM
the only hip hop i listened to was eminem but the hype surrounding him just got blown out of proprtion. there were always stories in the media about him and his live show which just seemed staged rather than the bad boy antics you were expecting. i havent really check out any of his recent material sice he came back from the whole drug abuse issue though!

personal_loans_1
10-25-2010, 03:40 AM
Best hip hop album for me this year, aside from PackFM and Big Boi - Kno's "Death Is Silent." The production is so out of this world, reminds me of DJ Shadow if nothing else. Streaming here - do yourselves a favour:

http://cunninlynguists.bandcamp.com/album/death-is-silent
Out of this world, indeed. It was pleasure to listen to it.
+ :
1. Graveyard
2. Loneliness
3. Rhythm of the Rain
4. Cohesion and strange, calm, sad, melancholic atmosphere. I like it, from time to time.


Epik High: I'm favorably suprised of good sound of korean.

Lately, I concentrate on rap in my language, I adore compositions of Łona (pronunciation: wanna, from do you wanna?) and O.S.T.R they both represent "intelligent rap".

Now I'm listening to "How I got over" <rave>

Lord Phidias
10-25-2010, 07:46 AM
The only Rap o Hip-hop or whatever I really like and listen to is Cypress Hill. They're not very mainstream right now, but I love every single album they have released, even the last ones, 'Til death do us part and Rise up, Tom Morello's collaboration is great, but my favourite one is Skull and Bones, freaking orchestra, it rules!!

Retard
10-25-2010, 06:36 PM
Gotta give big props to How I Got Over..... The Roots fucking killed it.

nieh
10-25-2010, 06:41 PM
Anyone else like "How I got Over" by the Roots?

The last 2 tracks suck, but the rest of the album is great. One of their best, of the ones I've gotten so far.

Offspring-Junkie
10-26-2010, 01:42 AM
I love Cypress Hill's Rise Up with Tom Morello. Heard some Eminem songs, I like "Lose yourself" the most I think. "99 Problems" isn't bad either. All three songs have guitar parts in it, coincidence?

Retard
10-26-2010, 01:19 PM
I like the last two.... 20/20 sounds like they all just free styled over the beat and yea it kinda breaks from the groove of the album a bit but it works. Hustla is a good closer, its kinda got the feel of the whole album, I love the drums on it, they just have this punch to them that works for me. Thought's rhymes are pretty good in it, sts' is pretty good. Maybe you don't like his voice. Either way I can see why people wouldn't like them.... I do though.

personal_loans_1
10-27-2010, 03:09 AM
Gotta give big props to How I Got Over..... The Roots fucking killed it.

Right. I relistened whole album intently during the night and I was impressed by abundance of sounds, generally. I liked Hustla a lot, 20/20 suck.

Retard
10-27-2010, 12:29 PM
I guess we'll have to disagree then. I can see why people wouldn't like the song.... I like it, kinda gives me a rap battle vibe. aw well.

Anyone excited for Kanye's new one? I'm pretty stoked.

Autonomist
12-05-2010, 10:44 PM
Few thoughts on a few of the albums that've dominated my 2010. Feel free to comment because I'm only happy to initiate discussion, but really what do I care, I just like to review shit.

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http://www.ourwordisbond.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/blg_fm_ifhr_cvr.jpg
http://qn5music.bandcamp.com/album/i-f-cking-hate-rappers

PackFM - I F*cking Hate Rappers

PackFM is an underground rapper hating on the ridiculousness and disposability of what goes today in (most of) mainstream hip hop. In my humble opinion he demonstrates enormous talent in every field on the mic: lyrics, flow, delivery, word-play, and a prevalent sense of humour that lends him the credentials to make an album where he does little more than complain about the shitty ringtone-dominated era of hip hop not only excusable, but absolutely listenable and enjoyable. This a concept album tied together through skits, which normally I hate, but it's nice here.

Recommended tracks: Wanna Know, Sire, I F*cking Hate Rappers

Favourite one-liner: "The bottom line kids, if you don't want trouble, stand there and say nothing like MF Doom's stunt double."

http://www.soulculture.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/The-Roots-How-I-Got-Over.jpg

The Roots - How I Got Over

The Roots never fail to disappoint. Sure this isn't their best album by any stretch but I'm still loving the shit out of pretty much all these tracks months after it's release. This is a lot mellower and more hook-heavy than a lot of their other releases, but it's good shit.

Recommended tracks: The Fire, Doin' It Again, How I Got Over, Right On, and I even like Hustla fuck all the hate I've seen for it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BGEUqACOQ_o/TG0txjAZ8HI/AAAAAAAAGlw/9Qajr6K4R74/s320/7430dd49416dc8721ac4c8e0c53dbe63.jpg

Sadistik & Kid Called Computer - The Art of Dying

Still getting used to this EP but I like it. Sadistik on the mic sounds like Slug of Atmosphere without the disposable rhymes and boring ass delivery, and KCC drops some nice compositions (it's hard to call these beats but I like them nonetheless) for him to go in on over. This is quite incomparable to anything else I can think of but it's undeniably hip hop even if in influence.

http://bandcamp.com/files/23/98/2398725955-1.jpg
http://cunninlynguists.bandcamp.com/album/death-is-silent

Kno - Death Is Silent

The CunninLynguists producer I believe to be the best beatwizard bringing it today put out a great solo album this year, and though he's not halfway as magnetising on the mic he drops dope verses and is held down by some equally dope guest spots. It's highs aren't quite that of the classic CunninLynguists records, but I love it nonetheless. Red. knows what's up.

[NO PICTURE ON ACCOUNT OF FUCK UGLY ALBUM COVER]

Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

I've been a Kanye fan since Through the Wire and I really like MBDTF, yet I can't believe the hype and everybody losing their shit over this. I loved it on the first couple of listens but most of these songs have no longevity for me, the same problem I had with Graduation after a while. I'd say I prefer it over that and it kicks the shit out of that 808s mess, but this doesn't touch Ye's first two albums by a long stretch. Like most Ye albums a lot of the guest spots are redundant - Jay-Z is sleepwalking here and I don't care for most of the So Appalled posse save RZA, though Rick Ross comes better than he ever has on any solo cut of his I've ever heard. I can only "wtf" at the last four minutes of Runaway as well, completely tarnishing and unnecessary.

Favourite one-liner: the way he sings "I sent this bitch a picture of my dieeeck."

Retard
12-06-2010, 11:51 AM
I'm listening to DEATH IS SILENT right now.... only on song number two but its pretty badass. The crying on the song Death Is SIlent was pretty creepy. As I'm writing this Loneliness came on.... the beat is awesome.

I can see why people would not get the last four minutes of Runaway, I don't really get it myself, but I like it, it kinda fits with everything its not like it changes up the beat or does something weird, its kinda just there. I love The album alot, probably second favorite hip-hop album of the year. After HOW I GOT OVER. I really do need to get into more hip-hop.... it'll probably be a new years resolution for me.

personal_loans_1
03-22-2011, 08:12 AM
It's quite fresh. "Oneirology (http://cunninlynguists.bandcamp.com/album/oneirology)" by CunninLynguists. Feel free to review it, or something. I'm chhhhhiiilllllllliiiinnn''''.

Retard
03-22-2011, 09:08 PM
New Raekwon album "Shaolin vs. Wu-tang is pretty great.

Lasers by Lupe Fiasco has been really doin it for me lately. Anyone here into Odd Future?

Dwayne Mosley
08-18-2011, 03:22 AM
It's quite fresh. "Oneirology (http://cunninlynguists.bandcamp.com/album/oneirology)" by CunninLynguists. Feel free to review it, or something. I'm chhhhhiiilllllllliiiinnn''''.

Really great, my favourites are Hard as They Come and Stars Shine Brightest. Also Looking Back is incredible stripped down, even better than the album version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5HY06FfJ0.

Royce Da 5'9" - Success Is Certain is on my radar at the moment. He comes so fresh and sharp on this, he really cut out all the filler that made Street Hop so mediocre, and even if some of the beats are questionable there's no really bad ones here. Fittingly it's his best effort since Death Is Certain. It trumps the decade-late Bad Meets Evil EP and I like it more than Watch the Throne.

Dwayne Mosley
09-02-2011, 11:10 AM
Despite having the worst group name I've ever heard (especially since they make instrumental hip hop and not emo tunes that make teenagers wanna rub their veins with a knife) Blue Sky Black Death are dope, and their latest album NOIR testament to this fact. Sounds more like Sigur Ros than any hip hop album I've ever heard though.

personal_loans_1
09-02-2011, 12:28 PM
But it has got a fine abbreviation. I'll check it out soon.

Now I like 'Oneirology' much more than while I was posting that. Looking Back acoustic is aaaawesome.