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TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:06 PM
In an effort to try and have a lively discussion, here's one my uncle and I were debating earlier.

Today, a Minister for a small town constituency (which particular one escapes my memory for the moment, but still) has proposed a day offline for the people of Britain. The reason he gave was something along the lines of "the misuse and indeed overuse of the Internet by individuals, particularly teenagers, is leading to a significant drop in social connections, especially with people of the same age group."

But is this true? Does the Internet reduce socialising, or create it? Just here, in this BBS, we have social connections because of the Internet. A different kind to real-life social situations, admittedly, but still social connections. Or are they infact not social connections at all, just simply typing to text on a screen?

What do you think?

arak0r
01-30-2005, 06:12 PM
socializing online and in real life, are completely different imho. real life > online

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:13 PM
socializing online and in real life, are completely different imho. real life > online

True, but you're saying the Internet does still create social connections. Which I personally believe is true - so maybe it's infact a call for a different kind of socialising, rather than more?

Betty
01-30-2005, 06:13 PM
I'm tempted to think that they create connections. Sure, e-mailing or sending text messages is different than calling somebody up on the phone... but perhaps they might not have even talked to the person otherwise had they not been online. I probably get more invites to do stuff over the Internet than I would over the phone, because people just wouldn't be bothered to find my phone number and call me up. I don't think too many people spend time on the Internet as opposed to physically seeing people. I think people spend time on the Internet as opposed to spending time alone. It does take away from time where one maybe should be doing things like reading, or exercising... but a lot of people probably would have wasted the time anyway playing video games or watching TV.

Also, I was discussing the other day, that making "Internet friends" around the world could be a very valuable networking tool.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:14 PM
That's also true. But (and I speak from past experience, here) it can also be dangerous. If a person has more online friends than real friends, it can get extremely depressing.

Betty
01-30-2005, 06:18 PM
But would they have real life friends otherwise? That's what I wonder...

arak0r
01-30-2005, 06:19 PM
True, but you're saying the Internet does still create social connections. Which I personally believe is true - so maybe it's infact a call for a different kind of socialising, rather than more?


that makes sense. honestly, having a friend that lives near you, that you see every day, or rather often, is quite a bit different from knowing someone only from the net. from most people i know that have met after knowing eachother online, its alot different from what most people would expect.

the interweb severely lacks what real life has, such as a more visual image of people, more of a physical aspect. sorry but talking while watching in webcam doesnt cut it :P

arak0r
01-30-2005, 06:20 PM
But would they have real life friends otherwise? That's what I wonder...

people that dont interact every day with people in real life, and spend all their time online, are going to lose, or rather, never will gain, skills needed for every day social contact with people irl.

Camilamazed
01-30-2005, 06:20 PM
Well...... I can't speak for other people.But I have to say that I started havind a social life after the Internet. I used to have friends that were totally into things I don't like.At the internet I found people whoa are into the same things I am.I've been going out a lot after I met a lot of people from the internet.It's been almost 4 years.I still love the internet and can't do without it. I talk a lot with my friends,my students and with new poeple like the guys from the bbs.

I see no problem with the internet.It's not the problem.The people who DON'T want a socail life is the problem :D

(It's just my opinion guys)

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:21 PM
that makes sense. honestly, having a friend that lives near you, that you see every day, or rather often, is quite a bit different from knowing someone only from the net. from most people i know that have met after knowing eachother online, its alot different from what most people would expect.

the interweb severely lacks what real life has, such as a more visual image of people, more of a physical aspect. sorry but talking while watching in webcam doesnt cut it :P

I agree. But the simple fact is, some people don't have the means to go out and socialise, usually simply because they have no confidence. It's a crushing thing, and can take over a life. So, the Internet can provide a way for these people to socialise too.

Camilamazed
01-30-2005, 06:29 PM
I agree. But the simple fact is, some people don't have the means to go out and socialise, usually simply because they have no confidence. It's a crushing thing, and can take over a life. So, the Internet can provide a way for these people to socialise too.

Ur right David (is that ur name, if not sorry).That's so bad people try to be social at internet and not out of it.I always try to help people.I have 2 friends who i've been talking at about 3 years and they never want to go out.They say they are shy and so on... To live a virtual life is just option (which I think it's really bad)......

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:31 PM
Ur right David (is that ur name, if not sorry).That's so bad people try to be social at internet and not out of it.I always try to help people.I have 2 friends who i've been talking at about 3 years and they never want to go out.They say they are shy and so on... To live a virtual life is just option (which I think it's really bad)......

Not necessarily. When I was 11-12, I had a 100% Internet social life, and I desperately wanted to have a normal social life, but couldn't, because my confidence was so low. Of course, one problem is, that social recluses are difficult to help, because you never see them. It's such a shame.

Camilamazed
01-30-2005, 06:36 PM
Not necessarily. When I was 11-12, I had a 100% Internet social life, and I desperately wanted to have a normal social life, but couldn't, because my confidence was so low. Of course, one problem is, that social recluses are difficult to help, because you never see them. It's such a shame.

I see.I see then that it depends on the person.I used to have low confidence although never had problems in meeting new people.I'm not shy.So I see veveryone must have a reason to keep a virtual socialising.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:38 PM
Exactly, and this is the conclusion that my Uncle and I came to. Some people need the Internet to socialise.

Linda
01-30-2005, 06:48 PM
I have a very healthy and long-lasting relationship because of the internet.
I believe the internet can be bad, but obviously not all bad.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:50 PM
There we are, that proves my point.. and I suppose, also branches onto another part of this.

Internet relationships. Could they also be healthy, and are they a substitute for real-life ones?

The Talking Pie
01-30-2005, 06:50 PM
I hate most of real life. I hate most of the internet. The two are exactly the same, I mean seriously; as far as socialising goes, you don't gain anything by favouring one method over the other. However, I shall say this for the internet: you can block people.

Linda
01-30-2005, 06:54 PM
There we are, that proves my point.. and I suppose, also branches onto another part of this.

Internet relationships. Could they also be healthy, and are they a substitute for real-life ones?

I believe you misunderstood. My internet relationship has turned into a very healthy, loving and long-lasting "real life" relationship. :)

Linda
01-30-2005, 06:55 PM
However, I shall say this for the internet: you can block people.

LOL So true. There are quite a few people at work I wish I could block! :D

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 06:56 PM
Yeah, I know, I meant exclusively online relationships.

Hmm. I should have been more clear on that.

Anyway, my previous question, with "exclusively online relationships" inserted.

nitropenguin!
01-30-2005, 06:58 PM
I started an online relationship over the internet... and the stupid dick cheated on me *shakes fist*

Linda
01-30-2005, 06:58 PM
I suppose online relationships, only as friends that you chat with, are ok. Just not the same, tho, if they don't become real life relationships, I think. I could never believe they could be a substitute for a real life relationship tho.

arak0r
01-30-2005, 07:08 PM
the blocking thing itself is part of why interweb reltionships are weaker.
instead of learning how to deal with different people, and different ideas and opinions, you just block the shit.

ThrashedThrasher
01-30-2005, 07:26 PM
Eh, Socializing in real life and online are completely different. My social life, however, revolves around the internet. Mainly because I don't trust people enough to become friends with them in reality (I'm weird, I know).

Linda
01-30-2005, 07:26 PM
Sometimes blocking the shit is more beneficial than trying to deal with it.

Chris
01-30-2005, 07:39 PM
all about finding a good balance, naturally - so that your online socialising enhances your sitation in real life through more contacts and plans, rather that detracting from it by overindulging in the easier option. Easier said than done, of course.

The Talking Pie
01-30-2005, 07:57 PM
Sometimes blocking the shit is more beneficial than trying to deal with it.
I agree. Just because we've had to face our problems for thousands of years, doesn't automatically make it the healthier/better option. Ignorance truly can be bliss, whereas knowing/facing everything will fuck you up mentally and emotionally.

arak0r
01-30-2005, 08:15 PM
so dealing with irl makes you fucked up, but escaping reality to live in a fantasy interweb world that isnt realistic, is all aok and fine?

riiiiiight. my point is that being able to deal with people irl, the ability to communicate with people irl, is far more important than the interweb. it just leads to a more unhealthy society as well.

its no wonder in the age of the net and computers, that society as a whole, is getting unhealthier, more obese and the like.

i used to be one of these goons that sits back and harps about the interweb being great, but since ive finally really hung out with my friends more, irl, and going out to do stuff all the time, i realize its so much better than the net.

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:19 PM
IF that was directed at me, I meant blocking the shit on the internet, i.e. the offspring bbs, is far more beneficial than trying to deal with it. I've tried dealing with it, now I'm starting to block it. Kapeesh?!

arak0r
01-30-2005, 08:29 PM
i believe if i was referring to you i would have quoted you. :confused:

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:32 PM
Excuse me all to hell.
I don't always quote when I'm replying to someone, didn't know you did.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:34 PM
Oh for goodness sake.

Managed to last a page and a half before it became a stupid fucking fight.

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 08:34 PM
Seems like everyone wants to fight now-a-days.

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:37 PM
Oh for goodness sake.

Managed to last a page and a half before it became a stupid fucking fight.

No fight here.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:39 PM
Disagreement then. Whatever the fuck you want to call it.

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:40 PM
I merely made a statement. How could I tell he wasn't referring to what I had said? :confused:

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:42 PM
Whatever. You just can't resist it, can you? Any fucking opportunity.

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:43 PM
What the hell did I do now? Geesh. You can post similar things as I do and it's OK for you? I think you're just tired.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:45 PM
You know exactly what the hell you did. Before you did the whole "IF you're referring to me", there was a nice debate going on. Why the fuck did you have to reply with that?

And stop being so fucking patronising, it sickens me.

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:47 PM
Holy fucking Christ, I was only letting him know what I meant if he meant his reply for me. Fuck, David, go to bed. I didn't do a fucking thing wrong.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:49 PM
You are not good for my health. It's like talking to a brick wall.

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:51 PM
You just get too offensive of what I type. I meant nothing bad with that post, just as I have already explained.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:52 PM
But I can guarantee, if things had been the other way around and someone had said that to you, you would have claimed the person was giving you shit and you just gave shit back.

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:53 PM
What, you can read my mind now? No, I believe I would have understand what they were saying. Just forget it, please. I've explained, let it go.

Betty
01-30-2005, 08:54 PM
Seriously Dave, you really have to put her on ignore and resist any temptation to argue. My anger on the BBS has gone down a lot since I did that.

I don't even have any idea what you're arguing about, but I'm sure it's better off that way, otherwise I'd be tempted to intervene.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:54 PM
*Random frustrated actions and musings*

lgdkhkht raaaaarrrr!!!

Now, for bed.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 08:55 PM
Seriously Dave, you really have to put her on ignore and resist any temptation to argue. My anger on the BBS has gone down a lot since I did that.

I don't even have any idea what you're arguing about, but I'm sure it's better off that way, otherwise I'd be tempted to intervene.

But I can't!! She's just everywhere!! And almost every post she makes absolutely makes my blood boil!!

Betty
01-30-2005, 08:56 PM
One little click of a button and it'll be ALL better...

Up to you though...

Linda
01-30-2005, 08:58 PM
Go ahead if it makes you feel better, even tho I did nothing wrong.
I really don't care.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 09:00 PM
RAAAR!! *more random shoutings*

Right. Ignore list.

Let's hope my BBS experience is calmer now. And I can find the vein that exploded in my neck.

Linda
01-30-2005, 09:00 PM
Good, I don't need your replies to my posts anyway.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-30-2005, 09:01 PM
You're right, it's working already.

Now (really) to bed.

Betty
01-30-2005, 09:02 PM
Just remember: Don't give in to the curiosity. Most things worthwhile will probably be quoted anyway.

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 09:05 PM
Betty, just shut your fucking trap.

arak0r
01-30-2005, 09:09 PM
I didn't do a fucking thing wrong.
no, but your parents sure did o:

Linda
01-30-2005, 09:09 PM
And I say the same about yours.

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 09:09 PM
no, but your parents sure did o:


^HAHAHA! That was fucking great. Nice witty comment. Two points for you!

arak0r
01-30-2005, 09:13 PM
And I say the same about yours.
reminds me of in H&K go to white castle, harold calls the guy cockboy, guy takes about 5 minutes to reply before calling harold a cockboy. pfffft. come on linda, youre better than that :[

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 09:14 PM
Exactly! She does that shit all the time. Just re-use's your comeback.

Linda
01-30-2005, 09:25 PM
No, I don't. I'm sure you don't read all my posts.
Looks like Joey is bored, Trip Boy is just an idiot.

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 09:26 PM
I read all your posts.

Linda
01-30-2005, 09:28 PM
If that is true, then you know I don't always copy other people.

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 09:30 PM
85% of the time. The rest is third grade style.

Linda
01-30-2005, 09:30 PM
You're referring to your posts, not mine.

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 09:32 PM
How many times have you used that one? Just switching whatever we saying into "No that would be you" or "Nope your talking about yourself" That goes in the same category.

Linda
01-30-2005, 09:36 PM
Well, it's the truth. You keep making the same remarks,
I have to keep making the same replies.

You're gonna have to find someone else to pick on now.
I'm out of here. You're boring me. Sorry to ruin your fun.

Trip Boy
01-30-2005, 09:37 PM
{playing violin}

dirtybird
01-30-2005, 10:28 PM
i dont like being around people in person.. they always find someway to leave me to do something else.. online they can be talking to someone else and me at the same time and i dont have to know how indifferent they are to me being there.. it's the lesser of two evils i think

meaning_of_life
01-30-2005, 10:43 PM
i hate a wonderful social life, no kidding. i dont use the internet an awful lot, this board being the only site i regularly visit. the people that dont have a social life probably wouldnt without the net, either.

dirtybird
01-30-2005, 10:46 PM
i use AIM more than any site imparticularly.

arak0r
01-31-2005, 01:26 AM
No, I don't. I'm sure you don't read all my posts.
Looks like Joey is bored, Trip Boy is just an idiot.
:( dont hate

Pinocchio
01-31-2005, 06:43 AM
I don`t think the internet has such a huge infuence on social relationships as the fuss around it would let us suppose.

I`m sure that the great majority of people can separate the real life well enough from the internet to build and manage their own relationships as well as if they wouldn`t change thoughts with other people via net.

Nevertheless, some few individuals seem to have a problem with creating relatinships in their real life, but I`m quite sure that they have other kind of problems(like identity problems or personality problems etc.).. so that the internet is an easy target to blame when they aren`t able to make friends out there.

TheHulaChick
01-31-2005, 06:43 AM
I think the internet is good. It's nice to be able to talk to people that you would probably never be able to meet in real life. But the internet also gives people the option of not having to deal with real life, which is probably not a good thing. Allthough if you have no one to talk to and you really need to talk about something then it's easy to find someone on the net who'll listen to you and maybe give you advice. So I'm pro internet social life, as long as you do make an effort to have a real social life.

Pinocchio
01-31-2005, 06:51 AM
I think the internet is good. It's nice to be able to talk to people that you would probably never be able to meet in real life. But the internet also gives people the option of not having to deal with real life, which is probably not a good thing. Allthough if you have no one to talk to and you really need to talk about something then it's easy to find someone on the net who'll listen to you and maybe give you advice. So I'm pro internet social life, as long as you do make an effort to have a real social life.
I agree..
and poeple tend to have things they feel uncomfortable to talk with their close friends or family and it`s easier to discuss those things with people who you don`t know.
unknown people can give objective opinions on things that friends can only give advises from their own point of view.

JoY
01-31-2005, 07:44 AM
all I can say is that in the end the internet hasn't *won* me any social connections. at least nothing real & lasting. (I'm sorry to say that, by the way. I just wish I'd met some people in another way. internet-life is too out of reach to consider it reality) but it is nice to talk freely from time to time, to care less than average what other people think about what you do with your life & to have them care less than average. it is nice to find understanding here, if you can't find it, or refuse to look for it in real life. & even though 'life' on the internet has been able to hurt me in the past, I must admit it has healed me in other ways too. I guess it's just a matter like finding the right people to talk to, just like in every day life.

Nina
01-31-2005, 10:45 AM
i have a lot of opinions on that (yes, DIFFERENT ones! tehe)
so lets see if i can put them into words..

the internet cannot ever replace real life.
having real life friends is probably healthier than having online
friends.
however, having both is probably the healthiest (is that a
word?), and you know why? because you cant *always* be
fully honest with people in real life. at least i cant, and i know
many who are the same way. sometimes, you just need a place
to write down your thoughts, or rather *share* them...and
while a diary would also be a solution, having an online friend
who you know for years and who you know will listen and reply
can be really helpful as well.

the distance which is always present between two online friends
can help with having a complete new experience when it
comes to relationships; getting to know somebody over the
internet CAN be an experience worth -experiencing-, after all.
you can get really close to each other in a completely different
way.

but i agree with you, Dave: it is very risky and can make a
person fall into a depression, but so many things can nowadays,
and as Betty said i am not entirely sure if the person who falls
into a depression because he "only" has "online friends" and
drifted away from socializing in real life would have made
friends easier if it wasnt for the internet. i actually quite doubt
that.

Tizzalicious
01-31-2005, 11:14 AM
I completely agree with Nina.

Also, I'd like to add, that the internet is a great place to meet new people. I didn't like someone else who replied, I didn't know anyone who was into the same things as I was, the internet helped me meet people who were, people who now are my real life friends, who I see on weekends.

Plus it's a great way to stay in contact with the friends who don't live close to you, the ones you maybe would lose contact without the net, because you wouldn't get to talk to them a lot, and would only see them every once in a while. Because of the net they can still stay close friends.

I think it's only a problem when you start neglecting your real life friends because you'd rather be online. Something I think I did when I was with Lee. Hmmz. Not anymore though.

Talman
01-31-2005, 11:21 AM
When people first get an instant messaging client such as msn, they'll be glued to the screen for days/weeks. Either they grow out of it within this period of time or they'll be forever doomed to spent everyday online.
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the_GoDdEsS
01-31-2005, 11:24 AM
I just skimmed through all of the replies so excuse me if I'm repetitive.

Socialising on the internet is good as long as it does not become the only substitute for your real life. As long as you're still yourself and don't hide behind any imaginary online persona you've created yourself.

Also, with the distance. I see it as a difficult question. Sometimes the distance is only physical. You're often much closer than you think. I've made a few online friends I've been talking to for the past four years regularly. And I really believe in those friendships. They're sort of loyal to me.
My bestest example is Iz whom I've known for longer than four years, we've already met up once. And I consider her a closer friend than my real life best friends.

The huge plus about having friends on the internet is that they are almost always there. They give you immediate feedback. And it's often easier to type things than actually say them. And that's relieving.

Personally I have an awesome real life with incredible amounts of good friends and my online life only adds up to it.

Anya82
01-31-2005, 11:32 AM
i think it's ok to have "internet social life" as long as it doesn't take your whole life.

just like meaning of life, i have a WONDERFUL real social life. I love my friends, and i feel better talking to my real life friends, than someone across the monitor. But i have to admit... i've met some nice people thru the net. In fact, i've met so many many people in this bbs, and they're nice, and cool to talk with.

in my opinion, some people don't like to have real social life cause they're affraid of getting hurt and stuff, so, in net life, if you don't like someone, you can just block that person, and you're "protected" in a way, you can pretend to be someone you're not, you can "dissapear" from someone's sight, and you can do many things you wouldn't do in real life.

conclusion: both are ok, as long as you don't get trapped in a shell because of fear.

that's what i think

Eccentric Sara
01-31-2005, 12:50 PM
I am NOT a happy bunny.:mad: I just typed a rather long reply to this thread, pressed delete to correct an error and the whole thing disappeared!!!!! Never mind. I will try and remember what I wrote.

I didn't read all of the posts in this thread,so sorry if I'm repeating stuff other ppl have already said. Anyway,I think the Internet is a good thing for people who are very lonely and shy,as it gives them hope.They CAN make friends,even if it is only online. Plus it enables them to be more outgoing and expressive than in real life.It gives them an outlet for their feelings and opinions.They feel less self-conscious because (unless they upload photos of themselves),no-one can see them,know who they are in real-life or harm them. And any criticisms/insults they receive can be deleted/hidden by blocking people etc. Also,if they meet up with some of their online friends,they can become real-life friends. If someone has no friends to start with,what have they got to lose by making friends online? I was a person like the ones I have described above until I went to uni,but I was also computer-illiterate and had never used the Internet til I went to uni,so I never made friends online at the time. Uni really brought me outta myself and I made plenty of real-life friends,so I never made that many friends online until quite recently.

It is also,as someone else said,a tool for networking, and for finding out information through other ppl. I've got into some of my favourite bands through online friends recommending them to me or sending me music.

Does the Net stop ppl seeing their real-life friends? Hmmmm.....in my opinion,only in a few cases. Yes,the Net is addictive. I am mildly addicted myself,due to none of my real-life friends living near by. It is a kinda substitute for a social life. However,once I have moved somewhere else where I have real-life friends,I won't be online as much. Sorry. No offence to everyone here. I have made some good friends on this board and think that most ppl on here are fun and nice. However, I much prefer friendship in real life. Even phoning someone is ten times better than talking on msn,as you can hear someone else's voice. Some of my friends can't understand why I want to spend my money on ringing them when I can talk for free online. It is for the reason I've just stated. Even if I'm talking online to someone,I am still sitting in a room on my own in silence or listening to music. It is nowhere near as good or as real as hearing someone's voice and them hearing yours. Some ppl make so many friends online that they end up choosing them over their real-life friends,bit like I said,these ppl are in the minority (and need to get out more!). Personally,I would much rather spend the day having fun with friends or go out to a pub/club with them than sit on my own infront of a computer,but I don't have the choice at the moment. I was never online this much when I was at uni as I had enough real-life friends. Plus,I was too busy with uni work/going out/hobbies etc to spend much time online. I would only visit this board when I went to the uni computer rooms to check emails. I wouldn't be on here for that long,as it simply wasn't possible. I was much happier then,as I was busier. :-/ I knew one guy at uni who had m8s and a girlfriend and everything,but was still addicted to the Internet. His house only had a dial-up connection,so none of his housem8s would ever be able to use the phone as the phoneline was always tied up. Sad,rather sad.

I will make every effort NOT to lose touch with you guys when I move away from here,but just to warn you,you won't see me as much.

Thankyou and good night.

SkunkIt
01-31-2005, 02:15 PM
Leaders are idiots.

arak0r
01-31-2005, 06:53 PM
Leaders are idiots.
great intellectual statement, i love how you backed up everything you said. :)

SkunkIt
01-31-2005, 07:05 PM
I'm not gonna bother backing it up, it takes too long.

TheUnholyNightbringer
01-31-2005, 07:38 PM
Then you're in the wrong topic.

Go away.

the_GoDdEsS
02-22-2005, 04:24 PM
It's funny how the internet has become a type of society of its own and how many psychological studies there are about it already. I was just googling for that stuff today and felt the need to bump this topic.

aky
10-17-2005, 02:29 AM
hi :) ive often wondered about the internet and its effects on people :confused:
me and my dad have discussed this- and we reckon that the internet while offering more opportunities re connections, it has definitely changed the way people interact and live- cos no longer do u need to queue up in a bank for example and interact with the person sat behind the desk- no u can merely click buttons in your home and the task u wanted is done- ditto shopping- all face to face dealings gone- the inetrnet is indeed helpful and informative but;
people need face to face interaction- it probably is causing much shyness and social anxiety- hardly surprising
GoDdess i was wondering what u typed in the google search to find out about psychological studies of the internet- im very interested but cant seem to find any, for some reason. thanks

memento
10-17-2005, 04:19 AM
If it wasn't for the internets I would have never gotten laid. Thus it's social for me. Infact the internets saved my life.

Paint_It_Black
10-17-2005, 07:06 AM
Also, I was discussing the other day, that making "Internet friends" around the world could be a very valuable networking tool.

I've discussed that too and agree completely.

I've made some good friends on the internet. Internet friends are a valuable supplement to real life friends. All too often real life friends are more just acquaintances that happen to share an interest or two. Online, there is a greater pool from which to choose, and in a sense it's easier to get to know people. Get to know their personality and beliefs, the things that really count. When I have a big problem I need to discuss, it is more often an online friend I'll turn to than a real life friend. For one thing, I don't want the guys I hang with to know I can be an emo pussy at times. I also don't have any close female friends in real life, and sometimes I badly need a female perspective on things. I'm not advocating this over real life interaction, but simply as a valuable supplement. And sometimes one can become the other. I have some formerly real life friends that I would have totally lost touch with if I couldn't chat with them online. I also moved to a different country and married a girl I met originally online. That hasn't worked out too well in the long run, but I had several good years so I can't really complain much. Ultimately, a friend is a friend, whatever the medium of interaction.

Paint_It_Black
10-17-2005, 07:15 AM
Hey TUNB, I can understand why you'd be frustrated if you thought this was about to degenerate into a fight (because it's a great topic and credit to you) but honestly you were more hostile than anyone else.

Linda, I agree you didn't do anything wrong. I've bashed you when I felt you deserved it, I've tried to argue with you rationally on occasion. Notice I'll also stand up for you if I think you're right. Thanks for not taking the bait on this one, and simply leaving. Well done.

dalaksta
10-17-2005, 07:27 AM
That minister must be on crack or something then. Has he heard of IMing? BBSs? EMAIL??? Those are all ways you can socialize on the internet!

Paint_It_Black
10-18-2005, 12:57 AM
Bump .

Vera
10-18-2005, 03:47 AM
I agree with Betty & PiB. (Hee, Pib. So cute.)

I think it can really give you different sort of perspective to things. I mean, sure you can visit different countries and meet people there and get to know them but what internet allows you to do is learn to get to know these people's thoughts and their culture. Then when you go visit their country, you'll hopefully have a guide there you're already friends with and some insight into the country, its society, its people.

I remember when I did a project on Poland. All the sources were fine, but what really meant a lot to me was that I got to interview Mags, who's an actual Pole, has lived there and knows what's happening there. Certainly it's subjective information, but it counts especially when in my project I talked about why the Poles would want to join the EU and why they wouldn't.

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 04:02 AM
Whoaa, this is going back. I barely remember making this.

Sin Studly
10-18-2005, 05:07 AM
I have a very healthy and long-lasting relationship because of the internet.

Is he still hiding you from his parents because he's in his early twenties and you're a haggard old crone?

Sunny
10-18-2005, 08:40 AM
I didn't get to read all of this, so mmyup..

this is going to sound quite pathetic, but I think the internet can provide valuable insight into social situations/interactions without the actual threat of rejection/ridicule real life social situations carry. Personally, I've always been a really shy kid. Pathologically so, you could say, to the point that I wasn't able to start a conversation with someone or speak up publicly without being extremely terrified. I have to say that my Internet experience managed to largely improve my social skills and confidence, because it gave me necessary "practice" in social interactions I was too afraid to get in the "real world". Of course, I'm not saying the Internet was the only reason why I became more outspoken and open to new people, but it played a large part. So while it can't replace having a 'real' social life, it can help improve it.

it might sound sad, but whatever. =p

another observation i've made is that a lot of people i know use the Internet (IM, specifically) to get to know their real-life acquaintances better. Online conversations tend to be a lot more open and personal. i can relate to this aspect of internet interaction too... i wouldn't have become best friends with the most important boy in my life if he hadn't made up a reason to IM me... simply because we were too shy to move anywhere past small talk in our real life interactions. After a few weeks of talking online every day, though, we were so comfortable with each other we could talk about anything (online and off).

wow, this got way too long. anyway, dismissing online interaction as "not real" is bullshit to me. it's only not real if you're talking to a bot... otherwise, it's still human-human communication. you're still displaying important aspects of your "real life" personality.

*shrugs*

Duracell
10-18-2005, 08:42 AM
l o l

Sunny
10-18-2005, 08:46 AM
well, wasn't that a valuable contribution.

Duracell
10-18-2005, 08:48 AM
Don't worry about my contributions, me just being here makes this BBS a more civalized place.

Duracell
10-18-2005, 08:49 AM
I just calculated that its possible to obtain 2880 post in one day. Next Thursday, I'm going for it.

Sunny
10-18-2005, 08:50 AM
i'm sorry. :(

Duracell
10-18-2005, 08:52 AM
aw, thats fine, :D

In two more weeks I will have the top post count. Yeah!

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 08:53 AM
I just calculated that its possible to obtain 2880 post in one day. Next Thursday, I'm going for it.

Oh, for the love of God.

Duracell
10-18-2005, 08:55 AM
Oh, for the love of God.

I have next thursday and friday off, So I think I can accomplish it. I'm not gonna post spam though.

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 08:56 AM
Please explain to me how you can post that much in one day and not make a single spam post.

Duracell
10-18-2005, 08:58 AM
I'll will do my best to keep them as unspam as I can.

Duracell
10-18-2005, 08:58 AM
It will be very tough, I know, but I like challenges. :D

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 08:58 AM
Or you could just.. like.. not flood the board?

Duracell
10-18-2005, 09:00 AM
Why? I don't think 2880 post has ever been done in a day on this BBS, I want to be the first person to accomplish it.

Paint_It_Black
10-18-2005, 10:28 AM
Great, another thread I enjoyed is starting to suck. Thanks, Duracell. You should have chosen Energizer, because you just won't fucking stop.

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 10:32 AM
I'm honestly not surprised. This thread was made when the flood of retards was manageable, and tended to stay out of lively discussions out of politeness. Now not a single thread is safe.

Paint_It_Black
10-18-2005, 10:46 AM
I'm not surprised either. I was only surprised that it lasted so long, but I hadn't noticed it was an old thread at that point.

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 10:51 AM
bumping threads is for losers.

So is being a meaningless pathetic virgin.

Oh, snap.

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 10:56 AM
It's a good thing I'm not then.

Yes you are. Now go away.

Paint_It_Black
10-18-2005, 11:02 AM
TUNB, why speak to it when you have the power to make its silly, worthless drivel just disappear? Go on, you know you want to.

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 11:07 AM
Because I'm not going to do what they always accuse me of doing.

Yeah, Per's already talked to me about that.

Paint_It_Black
10-18-2005, 11:14 AM
Hmm, Per has said you have abused your powers? Or that you should start doing so?

Anyway, the code of conduct for this bbs is so strict that you could moderate almost anyone and be technically correct in doing so.

TheUnholyNightbringer
10-18-2005, 11:16 AM
Hmm, Per has said you have abused your powers? Or that you should start doing so?

Anyway, the code of conduct for this bbs is so strict that you could moderate almost anyone and be technically correct in doing so.

Per's told me I should start abusing my powers re: the 'tards. And you know what, I think I will.

Paint_It_Black
10-18-2005, 11:20 AM
Good for you. You'll be giving the majority of the members what they want. It has been pointed out many times that this isn't a democracy, start being the benevolent dicator you were born to be.