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spermicide
04-15-2011, 10:02 AM
Hi! I'm selling a compilation tape featuring three unearthed and still unheard studio songs by The Offspring ("Call It Religion", "Halloween" and "Fire and Ice" - an even earlier version of "I'll Be Waiting") among others. The tape is called "Subject to Blackout", it was released in 1986 so the songs were most probably recorded circa 1985-86.
You can see some more info on this release here:
http://www.killfromtheheart.com/albums.php?id=12701&rec_type=comp

...and here's a link to the actual copy I'm selling:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260769530175&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

SkuM
04-15-2011, 12:27 PM
hmm never heard about it
can you provide some partial rip of it to prove its legitimity?

Oxygene
04-15-2011, 01:07 PM
yeah I'm wondering for some reason this seems legit.. I am tempted to verify it..

spermicide
04-15-2011, 01:45 PM
Here's an audio sample of the first song, "Call It Religion" (http://spermicide.hit.bg/Offspring-Religion.mp3) <<< click on the title to hear it.
I was able to find a live version of this song on YouTube dated 1987 for you to compare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2vMyhKqnrQ

The tape is 100% authentic and the songs are from an early 1986 demo, probably recorded several months before the "I'll Be Waiting/Blackball" 7".
You can trust me concerning Offspring rarities - I am the guy who started the thread about the "Tehran" demo tape on these forums a few years ago ;)

Ajota
04-15-2011, 03:49 PM
Can you reupload this song? The link is unavaible.

Gustavo
04-15-2011, 08:43 PM
Yeah, the file is offline. It would be very appreciated if you could upload it somewhere else! Maybe you should try megaupload.com or mediafire.com, they're good!

spermicide
04-15-2011, 09:17 PM
The link's not dead, there's just traffic limitation.
Anyway, here's another one to MediaFire:
http://www.mediafire.com/?d4b9f15pmc5m4sa

cool 2 hate 681
04-15-2011, 09:45 PM
wow:eek: thanks i would gladly pay $250 for this but i have no idea how to rip cassettes so it would be a waste

Oxygene
04-15-2011, 11:41 PM
wow:eek: thanks i would gladly pay $250 for this but i have no idea how to rip cassettes so it would be a waste

pay me and I'll get the casette and have it ripped profesionnaly :P

cool 2 hate 681
04-16-2011, 02:21 AM
pay me and I'll get the casette and have it ripped profesionnaly :P

hmm i don't know kinda sounds like i would get ripped off:confused:

i got it how about i trade you for your original handwritten lyrics to beheaded? :P

holland25
04-16-2011, 02:34 AM
Holy motherfucking shit!

Tijs
04-16-2011, 02:37 AM
hmm i don't know kinda sounds like i would get ripped off:confused:Getting ripped off by Oxy? Oxy is the single most honest and reliable person you can find on these forums. He'll have more respect for that tape than any of us would ever have.

Do I think Oxygene is a God?

Yes. Yes I do.

holland25
04-16-2011, 02:44 AM
And yes, Oxy IS honest and reliable.

Lord_Gabo
04-16-2011, 02:52 AM
we must do a collection to buy that tape!

holland25
04-16-2011, 02:53 AM
Apparently this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=180602178831&nma=true&rt=nc&si=NuyEcwd4jPqJIAJq3FxlWGC4A0M%253D

was sold for 15 Dollars only. Not that much at all.

Lord_Gabo
04-16-2011, 02:54 AM
Apparently this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=180602178831&nma=true&rt=nc&si=NuyEcwd4jPqJIAJq3FxlWGC4A0M%253D

was sold for 15 Dollars only. Not that much at all.

yes .. and all that remained hidden for years?! :)

holland25
04-16-2011, 02:59 AM
I've got an idea. What about collecting, let's say, 30$, and pay spermicide to at least rip the three Offspring tracks? What do you think? :)

Oxygene
04-16-2011, 03:01 AM
hmm i don't know kinda sounds like i would get ripped off:confused:


Yeah, I'll risk my reputation with the Offspring and the privileges I've been lucky enough to receive after 12 years of following them around, for the amount of money I make in a day and half...

Sounds about right...



i got it how about i trade you for your original handwritten lyrics to beheaded? :P

Touché...



Getting ripped off by Oxy? Oxy is the single most honest and reliable person you can find on these forums. He'll have more respect for that tape than any of us would ever have.

Do I think Oxygene is a God?

Yes. Yes I do.



And yes, Oxy IS honest and reliable.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

If you guys do wanna get together and buy the tape as a group effort I can see to it, that it gets ripped professionally into high quality audio files. My friends/relatives are in the music/movie business so I can ask them if you want it.

In fact if you guys decide to go ahead, what I think we should do is then I will raffle it out between the people who chipped in and one will own...

Consider it, and if you are serious about going through with it like I just said if the tape is authentic and for real, I'll contact the band and ask them to confirm it...

Think about it.

holland25
04-16-2011, 03:31 AM
I'm up for it, but I can't send more than 7$.

holland25
04-16-2011, 04:51 AM
And one more thing: Mike, if you're afraid of being ripped off (which won't happen anyway), make a copy of the cassette and send the copy to Oxy.

Greekoldfan
04-16-2011, 05:02 AM
tape sold!

Greekoldfan
04-16-2011, 05:05 AM
sorry the tape is not sold but relisted without bid option.buy it now only option

spermicide
04-16-2011, 05:08 AM
You're sweethearts :)
I relisted the item, this time with just the "buy it now" option (but with free shipping, yayy!) because I need the money asap.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260769879979

I know the price I'm asking for it seems a bit too high but I know how crucial these recordings are... maybe even better than some of you here :) We're talking about the earliest studio songs under the name "the Offspring" known to this day (aside from that Manic Subcidal song on the "We Got Party" comp).
And if that makes you feel more comfortable - I've paid a lot more for some demo/rare stuff by my favorite band (it's not the Offspring)... and I work hard not for two days but for two weeks for that cash. Life.

Good luck to you and hopefully the new owner of the tape would be someone on this board.

holland25
04-16-2011, 05:57 AM
How much money do you want for ripping the three Offspring songs for us? :D

Beheaded
04-16-2011, 07:44 AM
Smart guys in here. "Yeah, we need that tape. bla bla bla We should buy it." and the seller see everything. Now we have the tape with one option: buy now for 250 Dollar. I would bought it and I would rip it. But not for 250 Dollar.

Congratulation, DUMBASSES!:rolleyes:

holland25
04-16-2011, 07:48 AM
Do you really think we're the reason?

Beheaded
04-16-2011, 08:01 AM
Yes, I do........

Greekoldfan
04-16-2011, 08:36 AM
Smart guys in here. "Yeah, we need that tape. bla bla bla We should buy it." and the seller see everything. Now we have the tape with one option: buy now for 250 Dollar. I would bought it and I would rip it. But not for 250 Dollar.

Congratulation, DUMBASSES!:rolleyes:

100000% agree with you!That's why I didn't make any comment before

samseby
04-16-2011, 08:40 AM
Now that's what I'd call optimization of profits. Just saying.
Good luck with that ...

holland25
04-16-2011, 10:23 AM
Yes, I do........

Yep, you're probably right.

cool 2 hate 681
04-16-2011, 01:22 PM
Yeah, I'll risk my reputation with the Offspring and the privileges I've been lucky enough to receive after 12 years of following them around, for the amount of money I make in a day and half...

Sounds about right...

i was just joking around man if i bought it of course i would want to keep the original tape


How much money do you want for ripping the three Offspring songs for us? :D

i would also like to know this

Oxygene
04-16-2011, 02:23 PM
Haha.. $250 is waaaay too much to ask, anyone who buys it for that much is a sucker, as for the songs, I am sure there are other ways of getting them digitally ;)

No one should pay the guy $250 to hear the songs...

Outerspaceman21
04-16-2011, 02:42 PM
I don't want the tape, I just want the songs. This is lame.

Oxygene
04-16-2011, 02:45 PM
I don't want the tape, I just want the songs. This is lame.

we'll get the songs sooner or later.. the tape won't sell for $250 he'll have to re list it cheaper and pay the ebay fee for shooting too high. If someone wants the original cassette he should just wait

Gustavo
04-16-2011, 03:11 PM
I'm not saying that this tape isn't valuable, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with Beheaded and its songwriter, Oxygene.

$ 250 is just waaaay too much. I definitely would like to check out these songs, but no one spends that much money so easily.

http://www.killfromtheheart.com/albums.php?id=12682&rec_type=comp

I also wonder if that "Blackball" is the same one as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znZ9r5mUIHg).

Lord_Gabo
04-16-2011, 03:11 PM
i can donate about 10 euros.. i hope that the band release that songs free in the next podcast!!!

Mad Tiger
04-18-2011, 04:39 PM
If I happen to win the auction when the guy re-posts it then I'll loan it to you Oxy so you can have it professionally ripped for everyone.

Oxygene
04-18-2011, 09:41 PM
If I happen to win the auction when the guy re-posts it then I'll loan it to you Oxy so you can have it professionally ripped for everyone.

Sure no problem. I will send it back at my expense if it comes through. Poor seller dude loosing his eBay fees :(

Ajota
04-19-2011, 06:53 PM
Hi! I'm selling a compilation tape featuring three unearthed and still unheard studio songs by The Offspring ("Call It Religion", "Halloween" and "Fire and Ice" - an even earlier version of "I'll Be Waiting") among others. The tape is called "Subject to Blackout", it was released in 1986 so the songs were most probably recorded circa 1985-86.
You can see some more info on this release here:
http://www.killfromtheheart.com/albums.php?id=12701&rec_type=comp

...and here's a link to the actual copy I'm selling:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260769530175&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

Hey dude, can you available 30 seconds of all them?
11. The Offspring - Halloween
12. The Offspring - Fire and Ice

Thx

D0NT
04-20-2011, 02:57 PM
I can understand the need of money.

But if this fellow is a real offspring fan then he should share these songs ( at least in some crappy quality) with the whole community.

Afterwards he should proceed to sell this casette to whoever is buying at the price they are willing to pay it.

But just coming over here and making us strung out on this I don't think it's fair. Stiil Im thankfull to him for sharing this piece of information with us 'hardcore' fans.

Jojan
04-21-2011, 01:12 PM
It does sound like "Religion". Hope the quality is better than the one at http://www.mediafire.com/?d4b9f15pmc5m4sa

BigFish
04-21-2011, 01:51 PM
I can understand the need of money.

But if this fellow is a real offspring fan then he should share these songs ( at least in some crappy quality) with the whole community.

Afterwards he should proceed to sell this casette to whoever is buying at the price they are willing to pay it.

But just coming over here and making us strung out on this I don't think it's fair. Stiil Im thankfull to him for sharing this piece of information with us 'hardcore' fans.

Agreed. 100%.

cool 2 hate 681
04-21-2011, 03:49 PM
Hey dude, can you available 30 seconds of all them?
11. The Offspring - Halloween
12. The Offspring - Fire and Ice

Thx

im pretty sure halloween is a misfits cover

spermicide
04-21-2011, 11:09 PM
im pretty sure halloween is a misfits cover
No, it's an original song. A slow one + some interesting guitar chords.
I'll try to answer some of your questions: "Fire and Ice" is a different version than "I'll Be Waiting" on the 7-inch, has alternate lyrics (hence the different title); the sound quality of the Offspring songs is above the average (you can't expect miracles out of these "50 bands play 100 songs" type compilations on 25yo tapes though). Actually there's a little drop out in sound in the slow part of "Fire..." Not a big thing, believe me. I don't sell poor quality mp3 rips so don't ask me again to do that. I can upload such rip but only after the tape sells... and just in case the seller's not on these forums (so yeah, you'll hear these songs sooner or later). I won't set a lower price but I might consider adding a best offer option if things get sluggish. And for now I don't have the time to upload more audio samples, sorry!

cool 2 hate 681
04-21-2011, 11:16 PM
ok thank you for the info:)

Supa
04-22-2011, 08:20 AM
Thanks, spermicide!

D0NT
04-22-2011, 06:18 PM
No, it's an original song. A slow one + some interesting guitar chords.
I'll try to answer some of your questions: "Fire and Ice" is a different version than "I'll Be Waiting" on the 7-inch, has alternate lyrics (hence the different title); the sound quality of the Offspring songs is above the average (you can't expect miracles out of these "50 bands play 100 songs" type compilations on 25yo tapes though). Actually there's a little drop out in sound in the slow part of "Fire..." Not a big thing, believe me. I don't sell poor quality mp3 rips so don't ask me again to do that. I can upload such rip but only after the tape sells... and just in case the seller's not on these forums (so yeah, you'll hear these songs sooner or later). I won't set a lower price but I might consider adding a best offer option if things get sluggish. And for now I don't have the time to upload more audio samples, sorry!

OK your tape , your terms. I settle with that "sooner or later" thing..so lets hope the buyer do upload it of it he/she doesnt then you will.

Thanks man, sorry if I sounded unpolite before.

Outerspaceman21
04-22-2011, 06:43 PM
I can settle for that. Thank you for filling us in.

Homer
04-24-2011, 01:40 PM
Hey, how much did you buy this tape for, initially?

holland25
04-25-2011, 10:53 AM
Still not sold, huh?

Oxygene
04-25-2011, 11:57 AM
Still not sold, huh?

yep, I am right.. as usual

holland25
04-25-2011, 12:17 PM
Yeah, I was pretty sure he's not gonna sell it for 250 bucks...

Forza
04-25-2011, 12:36 PM
Pretty stoked about this tape, but 250... meh.

holland25
04-26-2011, 07:20 AM
So the listing has ended.

samseby
04-26-2011, 08:11 AM
Who'd have thought that? :p

Blackball_
04-26-2011, 03:44 PM
how much was the other tape sold for...? the one with out on patrol and tehran ...?? wasnt that crazy money too?

holland25
04-27-2011, 12:22 AM
Ha, you're alive!

holland25
04-27-2011, 12:37 AM
And it's back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/VA-Subject-Blackout-Offspring-demo-rare-NOFX-/260775209954?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item3cb769ebe2

Bearzy
04-27-2011, 12:56 AM
$250 bucks is he serious?:eek: i'd maybe pay 50 for it if it was in really good condition, which considering it's a cassette and it's age it probably isn't.

Oxygene
04-27-2011, 05:37 AM
And it's back.

http://cgi.ebay.com/VA-Subject-Blackout-Offspring-demo-rare-NOFX-/260775209954?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item3cb769ebe2

I think this guy is trying to jack eBay stock prices up, by relisting and paying eBay for nothing... it's called inside trading ;)

holland25
04-27-2011, 06:21 AM
Never heard of that.

samseby
04-27-2011, 06:58 AM
Maybe he's just hopelessly optimistic. :p
Someone should tell him to offer it for a reasonable price.

Beheaded
04-27-2011, 07:31 AM
On the one hand, he said that he need the money NOW. But on the other hand, he will never sell the tape for 250 dollar. That's for sure!

Mad Tiger
04-30-2011, 03:18 AM
Hey, how much did you buy this tape for, initially?

I did some stalking and it looks like he paid 15 bucks for it on April 5th.

Bearzy
04-30-2011, 03:37 AM
Honestly if someone pays the asking price, they deserve to be ripped off!

Homer
05-01-2011, 12:39 AM
I did some stalking and it looks like he paid 15 bucks for it on April 5th.

This is pretty believable.

In which case, just sell it for 20 bucks, man. That way you still get a profit and everyone's happy.

Satanic_Surfer
05-01-2011, 07:51 PM
So did this ever make it to the internet?

In my eyes, this has a cultural value and should be there.

EDIT: Missed that the thread was this long. Okay, so it's unsold. One idea that's quite usual to do at times like these is to gather money collectively and put an in common bid to the seller. Tends to be preferable both for the buyers who pay less individually and for the seller who likely gets a higher bid than any one person probably would put. Then the object is spread on internet. Has happened in cases with videogames too. And then it's without risk that it ends up in a private collectors house again.

D0NT
05-02-2011, 06:17 PM
that would be awesome! Too bad I don't own a credit card.

If fans here would gather the money it would be so great to the world wide Offspring fandom.

I hope this hapenns soon enough

samseby
05-03-2011, 04:08 AM
Collecting would generally be a good idea (paypal could be an option).

Tijs
05-03-2011, 11:03 AM
I've looked at this from a lot of different point of views, and I'm still not sure what to think of it myself.

On the one hand, it's ridiculous that it's being sold for $250. It's a tape, that's worthless to a lot of people. For those of us who are gigantic fans of the band, like myself, it's a huge part of the band's history that we'd love to hear and value a lot. But $250, that's just a lot of money for.. well, all of us. Even $100 would be too much for me to even consider it.

On the other hand, many of us including myself, have paid around $70 for vinyls such as the clear Baghdad 7", the I'll Be Waiting/Blackball 7", the They Were Born To Kill 7".
Also we paid a lot for the Brazilian Conspiracy Of One, RAFRAG import from Japan, other imports from Japan.
You name it, we all paid a lot for it. All of that were produced in hundreds, thousands, or even more. All of that were produced AFTER or in the same year as this demo tape.
So why wouldn't this rare impossible-to-find-unless-someone-hits-you-in-the-face-with-it-tape be worth so much? So what if he got it for $15? He was just incredibly lucky then.

But still, 250 dollars? I don't mind if the seller has some profit out of this, but this is a profit of over 1500%. Which is not a very 'punk' thing to do, if I can say it like that.

Though I REALLY want to hear that tape.

Greekoldfan
05-03-2011, 01:21 PM
I've looked at this from a lot of different point of views, and I'm still not sure what to think of it myself.

On the one hand, it's ridiculous that it's being sold for $250. It's a tape, that's worthless to a lot of people. For those of us who are gigantic fans of the band, like myself, it's a huge part of the band's history that we'd love to hear and value a lot. But $250, that's just a lot of money for.. well, all of us. Even $100 would be too much for me to even consider it.

On the other hand, many of us including myself, have paid around $70 for vinyls such as the clear Baghdad 7", the I'll Be Waiting/Blackball 7", the They Were Born To Kill 7".
Also we paid a lot for the Brazilian Conspiracy Of One, RAFRAG import from Japan, other imports from Japan.
You name it, we all paid a lot for it. All of that were produced in hundreds, thousands, or even more. All of that were produced AFTER or in the same year as this demo tape.
So why wouldn't this rare impossible-to-find-unless-someone-hits-you-in-the-face-with-it-tape be worth so much? So what if he got it for $15? He was just incredibly lucky then.

But still, 250 dollars? I don't mind if the seller has some profit out of this, but this is a profit of over 1500%. Which is not a very 'punk' thing to do, if I can say it like that.

Though I REALLY want to hear that tape.
well 100% agree with you.I said it before that we souldn't speak about it here so the bid option could be still available.that was the most fair..i never speak about a rare thing on ebay because i dont want to increase the price for the people who want to bid

Blackball_
05-03-2011, 04:34 PM
for a tape so rare with a pretty much unknown song on it, 250$ doesnt seem too unreasonable.

the tehran cassette sold for 256 dolla.. for songs which were already known (albeit not the same as on the tape).

ive sold some offspring stuff (none were as rare as this tape) which sold for waay more than 250$ so i dont think this is that big a deal moneywise.

clearly nobody wants to buy it for this price, but i dont totally understand the bitching about it. its not that unreasonable a price when compared to past stuff. im just surprised the half dozen people who bought stuff for crazymoney have disappeared.

Peedr
05-04-2011, 03:44 AM
Wow, that's interesting!

I would have never guessed there still can be some old Offspring stuff we don't know about. When I was listening to the sample of "Call It Religion" we were given, I thought it reminds me of an Offspring song I know, but couldn't remember which one is it. In the end, I listened to the live recording of song known as simply "Religion" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z8JXFgjetI) and now I'm sure that "Call It Religion" is a recording of THIS song.

holland25
05-04-2011, 05:17 AM
LOL, he wrote that it is that particular song in one of his first posts :D

Peedr
05-04-2011, 03:28 PM
Ah, whoops! :o As much as I was excited about this thread, I completely overlooked that post. Sorry.

holland25
05-05-2011, 08:53 AM
...still not sold.

samseby
05-05-2011, 11:34 AM
4 offers ...
Well, I'd like to know the amounts offered.

Homer
05-05-2011, 09:12 PM
The quality in the sample tells me that this tape is definitely not worth $250, by the way.

holland25
05-06-2011, 12:01 AM
Well, the sample is only 96 kbps...

maximocn
05-06-2011, 01:56 AM
Hi! I'm selling a compilation tape featuring three unearthed and still unheard studio songs by The Offspring ("Call It Religion", "Halloween" and "Fire and Ice" - an even earlier version of "I'll Be Waiting") among others. The tape is called "Subject to Blackout", it was released in 1986 so the songs were most probably recorded circa 1985-86.
You can see some more info on this release here:
http://www.killfromtheheart.com/albums.php?id=12701&rec_type=comp

...and here's a link to the actual copy I'm selling:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260769530175&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT

thank! but the preview is not loading

spermicide
05-06-2011, 03:17 AM
thank! but the preview is not loading

Hi! If you're talking about the audio sample - here's a working link to it:
http://www.mediafire.com/?d4b9f15pmc5m4sa

This tape will sell today, guys. I just got the first serious offer that made me consider selling it... and I'll definitely sell it today. It's up to you to be the first one to hear these songs. Less than 5 hours is what you got.
Cheers!

D0NT
05-06-2011, 04:53 AM
If I had this sort of cash available, I'd be glad to be that first one.

But still, please spermicide, PLEASE remember to make mp3 and let us hear these 3 Offspring jewels ,once you have sold the tape.

randman21
05-06-2011, 05:45 AM
Whoa, how did I miss this thread? I'm blown away that there are recordings of these songs that even the freakiest of the Offspring freaks here haven't heard, or didn't even know about. I think it is rare enough to warrant the $250 price tag, but I would never ever pay that much. Plus, the fact that he's selling it for so much more than he bought it would turn me off more. Still, good luck with the sale and thanks for sharing!

p.s. Man, has this band come a loooong way...

holland25
05-06-2011, 08:01 AM
Well, sold for 160 bucks. Seems much more reasonable than 250.

Greekoldfan
05-06-2011, 08:24 AM
Well, sold for 160 bucks. Seems much more reasonable than 250.

i hope soon to have the rips...

holland25
05-06-2011, 01:56 PM
I hope so too...

personal_loans_1
05-06-2011, 02:08 PM
...and so do I...

Supa
05-06-2011, 08:00 PM
I want them as well....

samseby
05-07-2011, 01:05 AM
Well, sold for 160 bucks. Seems much more reasonable than 250.

Sure does ;) ...

And yes, rips would be great :D

Ptit Seb
05-07-2011, 02:27 AM
Hi everybody,

Just so you know, i wanted that to be a little faster.
I'm the one who bought the cassette for 160 usd.

Unfortunately, i don't have any material to ripp it.
If I remember correctly, Oxygene has everything to do it.

Here is what i propose :
- Any one who wants to donate to help me pay that cassette can :) it would be much appreciate
- I can ship that tape to Oxygene if he ship it back to me right after ripping
- He can upload the Offspring songs !

Let me all know !

Cheers

holland25
05-07-2011, 02:49 AM
I can ship that tape to Oxygene if he ship it back to me right after ripping
- He can upload the Offspring songs !

Yes, Oxy promised to rip the tape. He is a very reliable and honest person, so you definitely can send him the tape (or maybe make a copy of it and send him the copy if you're afraid of something happening to the tape). Simply send him a PM and arrange details :)

And congrats on buying the tape, 160 bucks seems reasonable.

D0NT
05-08-2011, 01:21 AM
Yes, Oxy promised to rip the tape. He is a very reliable and honest person, so you definitely can send him the tape (or maybe make a copy of it and send him the copy if you're afraid of something happening to the tape). Simply send him a PM and arrange details :)

And congrats on buying the tape, 160 bucks seems reasonable.

Awesome Im STOKED as The Offspring would say lol that the guy who bought it is here and willing to share.

Plese Oxygene and the fan who bough it , get this done for the whole comunnity!

Im wondering if Fire and Ice goes " Fire and Ice!" instead of "I'll be waiting" on the lyrics :D

Greekoldfan
05-08-2011, 03:47 AM
i think it's blackball,not i"ll be waiting

Satanic_Surfer
05-08-2011, 01:07 PM
Unfortunately, i don't have any material to ripp it.
What you'd need is a stereo with a cassette player, a cable from the stereo to the microphone jack on your computer and some audio software with a record button. Just so you know. :)

http://ask.creative.com/wwimages/speakers/minijack_stereo_cable.jpg

Anyways, you're the hero of the day!

Tijs
05-08-2011, 01:20 PM
...from the stereo to the microphone jack on your computer...Line In would be preferred, but Microphone Jack would do the trick too.

More importantly; I'd love to hear this stuff soon. Awesome for buying it!

Oxygene
05-08-2011, 03:01 PM
Line In would be preferred, but Microphone Jack would do the trick too.

More importantly; I'd love to hear this stuff soon. Awesome for buying it!

you would need a deck with a line out and a sound card with a line in at the very least to get a decent rip... although since it is an old tape, I am guessing that would pretty much suffice.. as long as the cassette player is still in good condition...

I am happy to help, if you want contact me through PM, and I'll give you a shipping address... From my part, I am willing to get it ripped professionally by a sound studio and pay for priority registered and insured shipping back, to make sure it arrives properly.

Sometimes things are a little slow, I sent some shit to so cal in december, to arrive in feb... although that was a huge package. this could go in a padded envelope I suppose...

Anyway get in touch, and respect for buying the tape.

holland25
05-08-2011, 11:39 PM
Sometimes things are a little slow, I sent some shit to so cal in december, to arrive in feb... although that was a huge package. this could go in a padded envelope I suppose...

Well, he's from France, so shipping definitely won't take that long :)

Oxygene
05-09-2011, 02:08 AM
Well, he's from France, so shipping definitely won't take that long :)

that's pretty quick usually

SMASHedTHEignition
05-09-2011, 05:06 AM
and now we play the waiting game..

Oxygene
05-09-2011, 05:46 AM
to save on time and money he should probably get it delivered straight to me...

holland25
05-09-2011, 07:02 AM
That would be the best option.

ad8
05-09-2011, 07:07 AM
This is great news! Can't wait to hear the songs!

Supa
05-09-2011, 07:41 AM
Great news!

Jojan
05-09-2011, 07:52 AM
Can't wait to hear the songs!

lol. You are bad then. I can wait. :-D I am better than you.

Oxygene
05-09-2011, 01:17 PM
lol. You are bad then. I can wait. :-D I am better than you.

that was actually funny...
the world is coming to end I think

holland25
05-09-2011, 01:19 PM
I actually haven't laughed a bit... No apocalypse in the horizon.

D0NT
05-09-2011, 01:48 PM
i think it's blackball,not i"ll be waiting

Fire&Ice IS an earlier version of I'l be waiting, according to the seller.

Great news that this situation is being taken care of.

Thanks in advance to all the fans involved !!!!

Once we get our hands on this stuff, it would be great to have The Offspring members talk about those songs, that is if they even remember recording them :D

Satanic_Surfer
05-09-2011, 01:54 PM
Once we get our hands on this stuff, it would be great to have The Offspring members talk about those songs, that is if they even remember recording them :D
Dont they do some sort of Youtube podcast these days? We'll need to flood them with requests to talk about the songs there. Anyways, waiting to hear brand new old songs (if that makes any sense) by this band is like waiting for christmas when you're a kid. :)

Oxygene
05-09-2011, 11:49 PM
Once we get our hands on this stuff, it would be great to have The Offspring members talk about those songs, that is if they even remember recording them :D

Good idea, let's also make them tattoo the lyrics on their foreheads as well!

Lord_Gabo
05-10-2011, 03:38 PM
that's a good news!

Rafa88offspring
05-10-2011, 11:06 PM
It's been a while since the last time I was here, and I login to find this! I'm so psyched! maaan! I bet "Fire and Ice" is sung instead of "friends for life"

like "fire and ice! such shallow words for broken minds!"...

Damn, this is cool, 17 years being an offspring fan and I still haven't heard all of their recordings.

D0NT
05-10-2011, 11:34 PM
Good idea, let's also make them tattoo the lyrics on their foreheads as well!

they could instead provide us pictures of the handwritten original lyrics :D

Oxygene come on man I know what Im asking for is difficult but you dont need to bash me , we used to talk in ICQ :cool:

holland25
05-11-2011, 10:51 AM
So, any news about the tape?

Jojan
05-11-2011, 10:54 AM
So, any news about the tape?

I read "rape". x-D

holland25
05-11-2011, 11:07 AM
I read your username as 'I suck'.

Ptit Seb
05-11-2011, 11:36 AM
So, any news about the tape?

Not paid yet, i need to raise funds first

samseby
05-11-2011, 11:59 AM
So how much do you got / still need?
Out of sheer curiosity ...

Beheaded
05-11-2011, 01:16 PM
So, why did you bought the tape, if you don't have enough money?
I mean, I'm really really REALLY happy that someone of the bbs bought the tape. I was thinking about the same, but I didn't had the money.

Nevermind, I hope you will get enough money as soon as possible.;)

samseby
05-14-2011, 10:42 PM
It's kind of weird indeed.

Btw: Doesn't the second highest bidder get the item if payment hasn't been effected in a certain period of time (this is what usually happens in "normal" auctions at least) ... just asking.

spermicide
05-15-2011, 12:33 AM
Btw: Doesn't the second highest bidder get the item if payment hasn't been effected in a certain period of time (this is what usually happens in "normal" auctions at least) ... just asking.
The thing is there's no second highest bid. This wasn't an auction style listing but buy it now/best offer thing. The seller was to pay in 5 business days (which I thought was long enough to "raise funds") but the five days expired this Friday. So I really don't know what to think.
Anyway, the last and only extension of time I can give him is this Monday evening (16 May) and I hope by the end of the day I get paid. Otherwise I'll have to retract the deal, leave seller a negative feedback and re-list the item. If that happens I'll expect offers of no less than $160 for the tape which I consider the minimum price I'd sell it for.
There's one more option but this is only up to you - I'm ready to sell the tape for $150 with no eBay listings involved - per agreement here. This will save you 10 bucks or more off the price and save me the selling fees. If someone's interested let me know by private message. I'll treat that agreement with priority (over the finalized eBay listing) but you have to contact me before Monday evening.
Let me finally say I'm really disappointed by what happened here in the last few weeks. In my sincere opinion most of you don't even deserve to hear these songs so I suggest the buyer (if such ever shows up) to rethink everything well before uploading these songs for you.

spermicide
05-15-2011, 12:34 AM
Btw: Doesn't the second highest bidder get the item if payment hasn't been effected in a certain period of time (this is what usually happens in "normal" auctions at least) ... just asking.
The thing is there's no second highest bid. This wasn't an auction style listing but buy it now/best offer thing. The seller was to pay in 5 business days (which I thought was long enough to "raise funds") but the five days expired this Friday. So I really don't know what to think.
Anyway, the last and only extension of time I can give him is this Monday evening (16 May) and I hope by the end of the day I get paid. Otherwise I'll have to retract the deal, leave seller a negative feedback and re-list the item. If that happens I'll expect offers of no less than $160 for the tape which I consider the minimum price I'd sell it for.
There's one more option but this is only up to you - I'm ready to sell the tape for $150 with no eBay listings involved - per agreement here. This will save you 10 bucks or more off the price and save me the selling fees. If someone's interested let me know by private message. I'll treat that agreement with priority (over the finalized eBay listing) but you have to contact me before Monday evening.
Let me finally say I'm really disappointed by what happened here in the last few weeks. In my sincere opinion most of you don't even deserve to hear these songs so I suggest the buyer (if such ever shows up) to rethink everything well before uploading these songs for you

holland25
05-15-2011, 01:01 AM
Wait, what have we done if we do not deserve to hear the songs?

Homer
05-15-2011, 02:08 AM
"You don't deserve to hear these songs because you don't want me to make a lot of money off of someone else's music."

- spermicide, Huge Faggot

i_am_the_bishop
05-15-2011, 02:15 AM
if it had remained as an auction i would probably have bid more than what it sold for but i don't get carried away with buy it nows lol. :)

D0NT
05-15-2011, 12:10 PM
this sucks dude. Please Spermicide, think of your fello Offspring fans, people looking foward to heard this kind of tracks are not only the ones commenting here about the price you think is right for the parafernalia you own.

D0NT
05-15-2011, 12:11 PM
Still if some nice person will pay 150 and make the mp3 we are saved its not like the buyer have to agree with the seller suggestion of the ripping and uploading.:D:D:D

Oxygene
05-15-2011, 12:55 PM
Let me finally say I'm really disappointed by what happened here in the last few weeks. In my sincere opinion most of you don't even deserve to hear these songs so I suggest the buyer (if such ever shows up) to rethink everything well before uploading these songs for you.

do you really think people around here actually care what a scalper thinks?

If you did u'd destroy the tape, just to fuck with them :D

Powerh
05-15-2011, 06:14 PM
Rare recording shooting about Bananas :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah6dMrSItqU&feature=player_embedded

Greekoldfan
05-16-2011, 08:48 AM
we don't deserve??haha who said that?only the band can say that!I spent 2000 euros for offspring stuff the last year.I'm fan since 94 so I dont know what i have spent for this band!I'm sharing terrabytes of not officially released stuff...the seller cannot say what the buyer to do...

KrispyNotKrunchy
05-16-2011, 07:23 PM
Consider it, and if you are serious about going through with it like I just said if the tape is authentic and for real, I'll contact the band and ask them to confirm it...

Think about it.

Oxy -- Can you really contact the band to confirm that it is real? I'm thinking about buying it... I have a way to have it digitally ripped as well :P

D0NT
05-16-2011, 07:41 PM
Sh*t if this WAS a fake this guy should be like one of the greates con artist ever ! I mean makin that whole website about that fake tape and songs, and then going to the trouble of touching the 1987 live song , so as to make it sound like studio recording just to ripp people , and doing the promotion on the band's official BBS. I think that is highly unlike to happen.

KrispyNotKrunchy
05-16-2011, 08:08 PM
Well I'm obviously a believer or I wouldnt' have offered him the $150... it would just feel good to know for sure. It is odd that this group of people on these forums that know this band better than anyone else, and we didn't know these songs existed. Just saying...

holland25
05-17-2011, 12:15 AM
The 30 second preview sounds very real... No way anyone can remake the shitty quality live recording from 1987 into that...

Tijs
05-17-2011, 03:21 AM
It is odd that this group of people on these forums that know this band better than anyone else, and we didn't know these songs existed. Just saying...Well, that's the great thing about this band, you know. There's always some kind of mystery thing that none of us know about. If you hadn't noticed yet, they're not as open as most big bands, or at least differently open. Whether it's about the past, present, or future.

There's about 20 extremely-die-hard fans on these forums who have searched every corner of the internet (some do it more than others (hi RonWelty! ;))), who have scanned all the magazine articles they could find. STILL there's stuff floating up to the surface every now and then.

There are even those who have personal contact to the band, and apparently they didn't know about this tape before either.

There are those who spent the last decade of their life, if not more, in the underground trading/buying/selling scene talking to people who have the rarest of the rarest and even they didn't know about this. They've spent hundreds, if not thousands of dollars/euros/whatever on band merch and rarities. Hell someone even bought Dexter's stinky marathon sneakers.

So to have someone come here, who bought a tape for $15 and saw the chance to make good money off of it, saying we don't deserve it, is highly offensive to say the least. At least I myself feel offended by it.

In some ways I'd rather see mr. Spermicide eat the tape and choke on it, than a giant Offspring getting ripped off.

I'm generally not that easily to get upset about something, but the way this is going is simply not right.

samseby
05-17-2011, 04:49 AM
Hell even someone bought Dexter's stinky marathon sneakers.
Ok ...


Well, making a fast buck obviously doesn't always work ...
Not getting paid on the other hand is another story. I'd be pretty p****d too I guess.

Ptit Seb
05-17-2011, 07:11 AM
OK so i'm not paying it 'till i have a clear answer from Oxygene about that tape.
Hope you get in touch with the band man.

Greekoldfan
05-17-2011, 11:31 AM
well i believe that the three demos are 100% original.Ps: Tijs you're absolutely right

holland25
05-17-2011, 11:44 AM
They are, definitely. The preview sounds 100% legit...

Oxygene
05-17-2011, 01:07 PM
OK so i'm not paying it 'till i have a clear answer from Oxygene about that tape.
Hope you get in touch with the band man.

Sorry, I can't do that now... I've got other stuff to sort out first.

KrispyNotKrunchy
05-17-2011, 02:11 PM
Well I'm glad that most people seem to agree that it's legit. I just paid for it about 4 hours ago, so he said it will be here within a few days. He'll give me tracking when he mails it.

What I suggest, and this is not at ALL written in stone, is that I take up a sort of "collection", $10 here and there from some peeps on this forum... that way, I'm not stuck paying $150.00 all by myself to unEarth these songs.

IF, and I say IF, anyone wants to donate to the "Give Us These Demos Fund", just send something---anything---to saxrulzcp@aol.com via PayPal. I've already paid, so this is just to help me out.

I will convert them to MP3 in the best quality possible (no promises with a 25 year old tape) and upload them regardless.

Gracias!

-Chris

Beheaded
05-17-2011, 03:11 PM
Thanks man!!!!:)

D0NT
05-17-2011, 07:30 PM
awesome Chris thanks a lot in name of the whole forum and anyone who ever gets to hear them because of you now. thanks!

I know this will sound stupid but here it goes: I have no credit card + Im unnemployed , I would really love to donate. sorry if this sounds lame :D

holland25
05-17-2011, 11:46 PM
Thank you, Chris! I'll do my best to send you 10 bucks, although I'm a student :)

Supa
05-19-2011, 08:21 PM
Well I'm glad that most people seem to agree that it's legit. I just paid for it about 4 hours ago, so he said it will be here within a few days. He'll give me tracking when he mails it.

What I suggest, and this is not at ALL written in stone, is that I take up a sort of "collection", $10 here and there from some peeps on this forum... that way, I'm not stuck paying $150.00 all by myself to unEarth these songs.

IF, and I say IF, anyone wants to donate to the "Give Us These Demos Fund", just send something---anything---to saxrulzcp@aol.com via PayPal. I've already paid, so this is just to help me out.

I will convert them to MP3 in the best quality possible (no promises with a 25 year old tape) and upload them regardless.

Gracias!

-Chris

Cheers to you, dude! I will send you something when my first check comes in.

Tijs
05-20-2011, 02:14 PM
Not a big thing, but the tape is mentioned in this punkzine from years ago. Can't really find a date or anything on it, but it seems old. It's on page 3 of this PDF:

http://www.operationphoenixrecords.com/Maximumrocknroll/MRR-Issue049-14-ShredofDignitySkateUnion.pdf

Only worth $4 then ;)

holland25
05-20-2011, 02:19 PM
Woah, that zine has an artwork similar to the tape! Cool :)

D0NT
05-22-2011, 10:54 PM
Well it was pretty obvious that it was legit, still is good to have more proof.

now WHEN will get to hear this ?????? :(

RedVikingsCO1
05-23-2011, 10:00 PM
spermicide isn't an offspring fan.

no offspring fan would deprive such a beloved fanbase of a part of offspring history.

I say screw your tape and the $160 osama bin laden ransom being held on it

KrispyNotKrunchy
05-24-2011, 08:27 PM
I know I left it open and I didn't expect much, but I expected to receive some help for at least one person, lol... It's all good though -- no biggie.

Hopefully I'll get the tape soon. I have access to a tape cassette drive on a computer that can rip it to mp3. It will probably be around 128 bit rate, but the original can't be much more than that anyway.

I don't have any file sharing accounts, what do you guys recommend? Something free. I'm broke at the moment (obviously).

MAXTER
05-24-2011, 10:47 PM
I know I left it open and I didn't expect much, but I expected to receive some help for at least one person, lol... It's all good though -- no biggie.

Hopefully I'll get the tape soon. I have access to a tape cassette drive on a computer that can rip it to mp3. It will probably be around 128 bit rate, but the original can't be much more than that anyway.

I don't have any file sharing accounts, what do you guys recommend? Something free. I'm broke at the moment (obviously).

mediafire, it's free! :)

holland25
05-25-2011, 12:15 AM
I know I left it open and I didn't expect much, but I expected to receive some help for at least one person, lol... It's all good though -- no biggie.

Hopefully I'll get the tape soon. I have access to a tape cassette drive on a computer that can rip it to mp3. It will probably be around 128 bit rate, but the original can't be much more than that anyway.

I don't have any file sharing accounts, what do you guys recommend? Something free. I'm broke at the moment (obviously).

Yeah, Mediafire. PS: I'll send you 10 bucks some time in the beginning of June :)

Homer
05-25-2011, 12:49 AM
It will probably be around 128 bit rate, but the original can't be much more than that anyway.

But, bitrates didn't even exist back then...

Jojan
05-25-2011, 01:21 AM
Hell someone even bought Dexter's stinky marathon sneakers.

That was this SOB (http://offspring.com/forums/member.php?u=9053).

Supa
05-25-2011, 02:45 PM
I know I left it open and I didn't expect much, but I expected to receive some help for at least one person, lol... It's all good though -- no biggie.

Hopefully I'll get the tape soon. I have access to a tape cassette drive on a computer that can rip it to mp3. It will probably be around 128 bit rate, but the original can't be much more than that anyway.

I don't have any file sharing accounts, what do you guys recommend? Something free. I'm broke at the moment (obviously).

I still plan on donating, but my first check comes tomorrow...and it won't be full. I expect to make a donation though. :)

holland25
05-28-2011, 04:39 AM
Any news? Yes, I'm impatient :)

Supa
05-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Indeed!

12345

KrispyNotKrunchy
05-29-2011, 04:43 PM
Haven't received yet. I'll let you know.

nevo
05-29-2011, 07:19 PM
Haven't received yet. I'll let you know.

http://runningwithoutbeingchased.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sad_baby.jpg

holland25
06-02-2011, 02:32 AM
Still nothing? :(

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 06:30 AM
Got it the other day. Went to my mom's (she has a cassette drive for the computer that can record it), had some technical difficulties and the drive wasn't working.

My roommate has a whole setup at work with cassette tape player and soundboard and everything and is going to make it into mp3's.

Don't get your hopes up. I personally don't even have a cassette player and have only heard song #1 on the cassette (Not Offspring) and it was horrible quality. I will be just as excited no matter how the Offspring songs sound, but I just want to warn you that it will be only okay.

Cheers!

PS -- Still waiting on some kind of monetary help :P lol

holland25
06-04-2011, 07:11 AM
Don't get your hopes up. I personally don't even have a cassette player and have only heard song #1 on the cassette (Not Offspring) and it was horrible quality. I will be just as excited no matter how the Offspring songs sound, but I just want to warn you that it will be only okay.

Cheers!

PS -- Still waiting on some kind of monetary help :P lol

The quality is not important, what's important is we get to hear those songs :)

Thank you very much for the effort, and expect 10 bucks from me in the near future :)

randman21
06-04-2011, 10:24 AM
Seriously dude, about the money, I wish I could help right now, but every dollar of mine is tied up is something in something else. I should be able to hook you up in a few weeks. And if you're ever in Fayetteville (or if I go see They Might Be Giants in Asheville in September), you've got a drink coming your way! Thanks for taking one for the team, mah man. :)

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 10:47 AM
Dude, I just got the MP3 back. He recorded side A onto one huge 200MB MP3 and I'm cutting out the Offspring songs in Audacity. I am impressed with what he was able to do with it. It sounds awesome, all things considered.

Expect it soon.

...and I used to live in Fayetteville and now in Asheville. Are They Might Be Giants playing at the Orange Peel soon?

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 10:49 AM
Fire and Ice is an early demo of I'll Be Waiting with differently lyrics. The other two are completely new.

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 10:50 AM
Friends for Life = Fire and Ice

ad8
06-04-2011, 10:56 AM
Wow, that's exciting! I thought there was only one new song (Religion)...

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 11:03 AM
Call It Religion - http://www.mediafire.com/?nw4q3u1h9v4ac88

Fire and Ice - http://www.mediafire.com/?j531ummqm79ig72

Halloween - http://www.mediafire.com/?816cd4cf345igpo

Beheaded
06-04-2011, 11:07 AM
Holy shit!

THANK YOU!!!

ad8
06-04-2011, 11:08 AM
This is the most epic thing in a long while! Thanks so much!

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 11:22 AM
Call It Religion

Church on Sunday
Don't forget about God
You're a slave for Jesus
You need to think that's odd

Pass around the plate
Accepting donations
And the price is high
But still, you won't die
The money's a tax right-off anyway

You call it religion
We call it bullshit
You think the way to heaven is through your pockets
You spend your life
You need to sacrific
Always afraid you're gonna pay the price

Guilt on your hand,
Well you'll soon be dead
so you'll try to find your way into
heaven instead

You're wasting your time (wasting your time)
You're wasting your life (wasting your life)
Everybody ends up 6 feet under

Religious formalities
Every week
All wrapped up in your
Fucking protocol

So unaware
Your head bowed in prayer
Father, save me from
My sins, my sins, my!

Do unto others as they do unto you
Is that John 2-24-24-2
Don't know
I haven't read the Bible today

You call it religion
We call it bullshit
You think the way to heaven is through your pockets
You spend your life
You need to sacrific
Always afraid you're gonna pay the price

Guilt on your hand,
Well you'll soon be dead
so you'll try to find your way into
heaven instead

You're wasting your time (wasting your time)
You're wasting your life (wasting your life)
Everybody ends up 6 feet under

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 11:23 AM
Fire and Ice

Once I had a friend that I could count on
So I thought
Well so it seemed
But times of need are not enough
To prove your friendship to me now
Once I saw a face that I believed in
But a mask was all there was
So who wears the masks and who wears the faces
Well I guess I'll never know

But as I stand here alone in a room full of people
With nothing to say
Beer on their minds, and smoke in the air
Call them feiends but they just don't care

Fire and ice
Such shallow words for brokrn minds
Take me away from Fire and ice
Cause I'll be waiting for that day to arrive
When I'll feel alive
I'll be waiting for that day

Once I found a love I had to know
Now we might know each other just too well
Cause when we're together we just can't get enough
Or is it we just can't get what we want
Once I saw a dream, I had to chase it
Dreams quickly turn to reality
Who's at fault in this game of yours and mine
Well I guess I'll never know

But as I sit here alone
Think of the girl who came softly inside me
The look in her eyes, the smell of her hair
Call her my own but is she really there?

Fire and ice
Such shallow words for brokrn minds
Take me away from Fire and ice
Cause I'll be waiting for that day to arrive
When I'll feel alive
I'll be waiting for that day

Once I had a friend that I could count on
Times of need are not enough
Once I found a love I had to know
Now we might know each other just too well
Once I saw a dream I had to chase it
Dreams quickly turn to reality
Now let me close my eyes
Because I don't want to see anything anymore

Greekoldfan
06-04-2011, 11:26 AM
holy shit!!!thank you sooo much !!!you're the bbs hero

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-04-2011, 11:28 AM
lol No problem. I'm as excited as everybody else. If someone wants to submit the lyrics to Halloween -- I am finding it hard to hear the words :/

I LOVE Call It Religion... awesome song!!

randman21
06-04-2011, 11:36 AM
Dude, this is crazy. I'm listening to Halloween right now. Don't want this moment to end, hahaha.

And yeah, TMBG is playing the Orange Peel on Sept 28!

EDIT: Great job with this lyrics. In Call it Religion, I think the one line is "so you'll try to buy your way into heaven instead".

cool 2 hate 681
06-04-2011, 12:29 PM
Call It Religion - http://www.mediafire.com/?nw4q3u1h9v4ac88

Fire and Ice - http://www.mediafire.com/?j531ummqm79ig72

Halloween - http://www.mediafire.com/?816cd4cf345igpo

wow:eek: thank you so much this is awesome

holland25
06-04-2011, 12:30 PM
Fan-fucking-tastic! Thank you very much! This is awesome!

MAXTER
06-04-2011, 01:04 PM
Thank You A Lot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're our hero! :)
What a fantastic surprise!!!!
I love Halloween song! it's new! :rolleyes:

holland25
06-04-2011, 01:10 PM
Halloween is incredible! It sounds nothing like other Offspring songs!

Tijs
06-04-2011, 01:21 PM
Wooooow, amazing stuff right there! Thanks a billion for posting this! Amaaaazing!



Halloween is incredible! It sounds nothing like other Offspring songs!Actually to me it really sounds like a Dead Kennedys song. Really cool!

SuperKnux
06-04-2011, 01:31 PM
Congrats everyone! Specifically to you, Krispy! History has been made! Great tunes! (Even in 2011 we still get to unearth extremely rare songs. :D

Greekoldfan
06-04-2011, 01:40 PM
I asked anditko to remaster them :)

Gustavo
06-04-2011, 02:23 PM
This is awesome! Thank you so much, really enjoyed all the songs.

Did anybody make a connection between the beginning of "Call It Religion" and "Abolish Government/Silent Majority" by T.S.O.L.?

Jojan
06-04-2011, 02:47 PM
Both Call it Religion and Halloween sounds like TSOL songs. Not bad at all. I disagree that Halloween sounds like Dead Kennedys, because it is too slow.

Hope the band sees that we have these now. ^_^


Did anybody make a connection between the beginning of "Call It Religion" and "Abolish Government/Silent Majority" by T.S.O.L.?

Sí.

the_real_potomek
06-04-2011, 03:48 PM
The songs sound really good, I know what I'm going to listen to during upcoming couple of days:D
Thanks a lot!

SkuM
06-04-2011, 03:54 PM
so cool... thanks so much for this

Krojd
06-04-2011, 05:23 PM
Ok, after few listenings I cant describe how great Halloween is, I listen to it over and over again.

Ryder1234
06-04-2011, 08:07 PM
I tried to clean up Halloween a bit, I think it sounds a bit better

https://rapidshare.com/files/1481392400/Halloween.mp3

Mad Tiger
06-04-2011, 11:06 PM
You sir are awesome for dealing with that jackass and giving us these great songs. Thank you! :cool:

Tompo2000
06-05-2011, 01:28 AM
the songs on youtube:
Call It Religion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bdi9xXuG44
Halloween: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL-6cHd0XHU
Fire and Ice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOd34Ew46S4

D0NT
06-05-2011, 01:59 AM
Those are excellent news!!:D

Again wish I could donate.

QUALITY DOESNT MATTER this sh*t is is really rare!

D0NT
06-05-2011, 02:02 AM
Call It Religion - http://www.mediafire.com/?nw4q3u1h9v4ac88

Fire and Ice - http://www.mediafire.com/?j531ummqm79ig72

Halloween - http://www.mediafire.com/?816cd4cf345igpo

I havent download them or hear them yet! And im about to cry!

We could make a documentary about the journey to get this songs and have the band add it in a dvd extra

EPIC ., Im out of words to thank you man

This are incredible just heard them , thanks for the lyrics too, now Halloweeen lyrics I hope someone gets them.
They indeed sound like TSOL , I love tsol for a decade or more now thanks to them and they are dexter's fave punk band.

D0NT
06-05-2011, 02:38 AM
would someone like a 2011 remake of the two unrealeased songs?

holland25
06-05-2011, 03:44 AM
4th post in a row, please.

personal_loans_1
06-05-2011, 05:01 AM
Wow, real gems. Thank you!!! They're damn catchy.And great. Great to hear how I'll be waiting evolved (I'll be waiting sounds 10^1000000 times better). Call it religion lyrics is perfect, I'm waiting for Halloween, I have a really vague idea what he's singing so I can't help. Thank you KrispyNotKrunchy, thank you once again. :)

holland25
06-05-2011, 05:04 AM
I actually like the beginning of Fire and Ice more than the one of I'll Be Waiting...

And Halloween has the same dark atmosphere as Demons, I just realized that. I'm lame.

personal_loans_1
06-05-2011, 05:22 AM
I like them both as well, I thought about lyrics. And yeah, yes. I especially like those dark songs.

jacknife737
06-05-2011, 01:03 PM
I'd just like to say cheers to everyone who helped buy/rip/post these songs: awesome work!

I particularly love Call it Religion: it sounds like your typical 80s California punk stuff, but I'm a sucker for anything with Dexter's vocals.

Would love to hear what the band has to say about these tracks.

Edit: After repeated listens, I really like Halloween too: seems like it could fit right in on S/T.

holland25
06-05-2011, 01:32 PM
By the way, now we only need a studio version of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-AvV03R-Uw

and a full version of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UT24pEFE1w

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-05-2011, 04:15 PM
Well were they released on ANYTHING? or just played live? I would say the Tonight I Do song was only played live, but after all these years, thats what people thought about Call It Religion...

holland25
06-05-2011, 11:20 PM
Well were they released on ANYTHING? or just played live? I would say the Tonight I Do song was only played live, but after all these years, thats what people thought about Call It Religion...

Yep, that's why I said we only need those :)

The full version of Sorority Bitch may be available, shame it's cut on the garage video...

SåS
06-06-2011, 12:22 AM
Fuck yes!!

I LOVE the group vocals on halloween! Infact I love all of these songs! Thank you so much KripsyKrunchy!

Lord_Gabo
06-06-2011, 02:53 AM
Thank you so much!

randman21
06-06-2011, 03:30 AM
The song I really, REALLY wanna hear now is Cogs. Just to see how they transitioned into that Gotta Get Away riff, and how exactly it was used. I know it's out there somewhere!

Alison
06-06-2011, 04:12 AM
I prefer the Fire and Ice intro also.

All the songs are great :D

samseby
06-06-2011, 10:00 AM
Thanks a bunch. Awesome :)

Oxygene
06-06-2011, 12:03 PM
Dexter enunciates all bad ass in fire and ice...
Thanks for the post this is some awesome shit :)

D0NT
06-07-2011, 03:24 PM
Still now halloween lyrics? I have an atempt but its pretty lame and ilogical what I came up with . I'll post it if someone ones it thou

I have to DISAGREE about Fire And Ice intro being better thatn I'll be waiting. MAN I'll be waiting greatest the moment is the solo intro !! the intro in FIRE AND ICE IS EXACTLY like the one on TSOL's most known song "Code Blue".

They did better in I'll be waiting.

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-07-2011, 08:24 PM
Go ahead and post the lyrics you came up with and we can figure out from there

D0NT
06-07-2011, 11:41 PM
OK Im pretty sure most of this is innacurate. Im sorry if most doesnt make sense, but since the man himself Krispy ask for it :D

English is not my native language so I apologize, but I guess I got some phrases right at least :


The house's living haunting nobody's soul
and your crying eyelid but you
know theres nowhere else to go!

Things are dark and ill, just to held the strings
and it doesnt matter what day it is
cause it's always halloween!

Yes and I am the knight, and I am the calling
I am the confunsion chasing you around and round and round..

Easy faces and dark corners this were you let that any place is calling
you but your life is your mistake

You tell me in pieces what you want
name in advice,they tell you that the price you pay its
another life in a sacrifice!

Yes I am the dark and I am the patience
I am the ilusion chasing you around and round and round..

Running, hiding but there's nowhere to escape
from the voices that crawl inside your head,
living in this skunk you will do what they say

So now the stage is set and the night is wrong
to no surprise it comes to your neck
cause the house its your mind and the life is your own
in a pool a of blood you will know me

Because I am the night and I am the end and
I am the confusion chasing you around

Halloween
(I am the night I am the calling ,I am the confusion)
Halloween, Halloween

Danno
06-08-2011, 04:09 PM
It looks pretty close DONT.

I gave it a listen to half a dozen times and cleaned it up a bit. The part in parenthesis I wasn't so sure on.

The house is living, haunting nobody's soul.
And you run, hiding, but you know there’s nowhere else to go!

Things are dark and ill, (just to hold the strings.)
And it doesn’t matter what day it is
cause it's always Halloween!

Yes and I am the night.
And I am the calling.
I am the confusion chasing you around and round and round…

You see faces in dark corners where you live.
Any place is calling you but your life is your mistake.

You tell me in pieces what you want, but they name their price.
They tell you that the price you pay is another life in a sacrifice!

Yes I am the dark.
And I am the patience.
I am the illusion chasing you around and round and round…

Running, hiding but there's nowhere to escape
from the voices that crawl inside your head,
living in this skank you will do what they say

So now the stage is set and the night is wrong
to no surprise it comes to your neck
cause the house is your mind and the life is your own
in a pool a of blood you will know me

Because I am the night and I am the end.
And I am the confusion chasing you around and round and round…

Halloween
I am the night
Halloween
I am the calling
Halloween
I am the confusion
Halloween

brothadave79
06-08-2011, 04:28 PM
Listened to the song with Danno's message, edited to what I heard.


It looks pretty close DONT.

The part in parenthesis I wasn't so sure on.

The house is living, haunting, nobody's home.
And you run, hiding, but you know there’s nowhere else to go!

The days are dark and filled with distant (lovers' dreams?)
And it doesn’t matter what day it is
cause it's always Halloween!

Yes and I am the night.
And I am the calling.
I am the confusion chasing you around and round and round…

You see faces in dark corners where you live.
(And in these places?) we're calling you but your life is your mistake.

You tell me in pieces what you want, but they name their price.
They tell you that the price you pay is another life in a sacrifice!

Yes I am the dark.
And I am the patience.
I am the illusion chasing you around and round and round…

Running, hiding but there's nowhere to escape
from the voices that crawl inside your head,
living in this dank you will do what they say

So now the stage is set and the night is drawn
to no surprise it comes to your neck
cause the house is your mind and the life is your own
in a pool a of blood you will know me

Because I am the night and I am the end.
And I am the confusion chasing you around and round and round…

Halloween
I am the night
Halloween
I am the calling
Halloween
I am the confusion
Halloween

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-08-2011, 07:01 PM
Thanks! It seems pretty good to me!

And thanks to RandMan for being the first to donate to the "Give Us These Songs Fund"

If anyone else changes their mind and wants to help out with the discovery of these songs -- it did cost me $150.00 -- you can send something via PayPal to saxrulzcp@aol.com

Gracias for all the kind words and support. Long live The Offspring!

Homer
06-09-2011, 01:08 AM
I prefer the Fire and Ice intro also.

All the songs are great :D

Someone hasn't heard Code Blue!

samseby
06-09-2011, 04:12 AM
Got the lyrics still a little different. Well, here is what I guess I kind of understood ;)


The houses where you’re (?) living
haunting nobody's soul
and you’re done hiding me (?) cause you
know there’s nowhere else to go!

The days are darkened ill (?),
and you still hear screams,
and it doesn’t matter what day it is
cause it's always Halloween!

Yes and I am the night, and I am the calling
I am the confusion chase (?) you around and round and round..

Beastly faces in dark corners in where you live
and these faces (?) are calling you
but your life is your mistake
You tell the beasts what you want
they name their price (?),
they tell you that the price you pay is another life in a sacrifice!

Yes and I am the dark and I am the patience
I am the illusion chase (?) you around and round and round..

Running, hiding but there's no escape
from the voices that crawl inside your head,
living this skank (?) you will do what they say
so now the stage is set and the night is on
and to no surprise it comes to your neck
cause the house is your mind and the life is your own
in a pool of blood you will know me

Because I am the night and I am the end and
I am the confusion chase (?) you around ...........

Halloween
(I am the night, I am the calling, I am the confusion)
Halloween, Halloween

The more I listen to it, the odder it gets. ;)

Tijs
06-09-2011, 08:53 AM
Just made a donation as well. Thanks again!

Jojan
06-09-2011, 09:06 AM
Thanks! It seems pretty good to me!

And thanks to RandMan for being the first to donate to the "Give Us These Songs Fund"

If anyone else changes their mind and wants to help out with the discovery of these songs -- it did cost me $150.00 -- you can send something via PayPal to saxrulzcp@aol.com

Gracias for all the kind words and support. Long live The Offspring!

€11 from me.

brothadave79
06-09-2011, 01:28 PM
You could live in a skank, but I wouldn't recommend it.

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-09-2011, 04:37 PM
Thanks Tijs and Jojan!!

D0NT
06-09-2011, 07:28 PM
Awesome dude! Im glad I did some of the work right :D

I doubt the guys will be able to top this songs with their new album :D:p

D0NT
06-09-2011, 07:42 PM
"Fire and Ice Your Friends Can Be Your Greatest Vice"

does he sing that?

samseby
06-10-2011, 04:26 AM
You could live in a skank, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Skank as in filth (that's a least what dict.cc and thesaurus.com state ...;))

Titus
06-12-2011, 07:20 PM
I can´t say how happy I am with those three songs! Specially Halloween, I have been listening to it over and over since krispy put it online

And by the way, krispy, I will send you something during this week. Thank you for sharing the songs

Titus
06-12-2011, 07:24 PM
Originally Posted by Danno View Post
It looks pretty close DONT.

....


Running, hiding but there's nowhere to escape
from the voices that crawl inside your head,
living in this dank you will do what they say
...



I think i hear in this endless game you will do what they say

brothadave79
06-12-2011, 08:40 PM
I agree that I hear "in an endless..." too. But I'm not sure what the the last word is- it still sounds like an "-ank" to me.

samseby
06-20-2011, 04:45 AM
Hope we didn't flub the lyrics too much :p ;)

personal_loans_1
06-20-2011, 10:16 AM
It doesn't look so. Thanks everyone for your efforts to write down that fabulous, badass, as it come out, lyrics. I have no idea why this thread has just a few answers, it's totally noncompliant to its matter. Come ooon.

holland25
06-20-2011, 12:51 PM
...and 41 of them are mine :D

personal_loans_1
06-20-2011, 02:57 PM
Yeah, it's almost 20% :D & Don't forget about posts by D0NT, by D0NT, by D0NT, by D0NT. :p

Bants36c
06-24-2011, 12:43 AM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/online_downloads/the_offspring_rare_1986_demos_unleashed.html

Dexter_italy
06-24-2011, 07:32 AM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/online_downloads/the_offspring_rare_1986_demos_unleashed.html


They should tell the real story... that a fan bought a tape on the interenet and shared it with the community... I think it's unfair that the glory goes to a site (great site) which hasn't the merit of it

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-25-2011, 07:39 AM
They should tell the real story... that a fan bought a tape on the interenet and shared it with the community... I think it's unfair that the glory goes to a site (great site) which hasn't the merit of it

Yeah, I noticed that the credit went to ANDITKO and not to me lol... not that it bothers me, but whatever

cool 2 hate 681
06-25-2011, 04:41 PM
Yeah, I noticed that the credit went to ANDITKO and not to me lol... not that it bothers me, but whatever

don't worry everyone who reads this thread knows that you deserve the credit for offspring fans hearing this tape:)

Oxygene
06-26-2011, 08:40 AM
Yeah, I noticed that the credit went to ANDITKO and not to me lol... not that it bothers me, but whatever

I read that and it bothered me ..

holland25
06-26-2011, 01:28 PM
Yes, the credits should've definitely gone to Krispy, not to ANDiTKO...

MAXTER
06-26-2011, 02:31 PM
Yes, the credits should've definitely gone to Krispy, not to ANDiTKO...

indeed! :)

Bants36c
06-26-2011, 03:13 PM
Krispy you are so awesome for sharing the demos with everyone. There should be some way to make this right

samseby
06-27-2011, 04:26 AM
Maybe they could put a little something on their site ...

SåS
06-27-2011, 06:17 AM
I vote that the guys from the band thank KNK for finding this, that'll be much better than a shitty Ultimate Guitar story.

Fuck UG is known for some bullshit.

Krojd
06-27-2011, 07:37 AM
Yeah, I noticed that the credit went to ANDITKO and not to me lol... not that it bothers me, but whatever

But we love you anyway

KrispyNotKrunchy
06-28-2011, 08:11 PM
Trust me - I didn't do it for any reason other than wanting to hear it myself ...the world just got lucky ;)

ANDiTKO
06-29-2011, 10:04 AM
Yeah, I noticed that the credit went to ANDITKO and not to me lol... not that it bothers me, but whatever

Well i also felt bad about taking all the credit. All i did is to make the mp3s that "KrispyNotKrunchy" provided sound a litle better and upload them to my website. I did not know who was the original provider so thats why i posted THIS (http://www.offspring.com/community/showpost.php?p=1434966&postcount=8)

And yes. I have updated both the download page and the homepage making clear that "KrispyNotKrunchy" provided the tapes. Check the homepage (http://theoffspring.eu/) and the download (http://theoffspring.eu/item/the-offspring-1986-demos-remastered-by-anditko.html) page

I hope we are cool now ;)

personal_loans_1
06-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Here (http://dyingscene.com/news/rare-1986-offspring-demo-recordings-posted-online/) is also no info about who posted that first and where is that from, hmm... It looks like the news is about remastering not the discover. Btw, you only had to read few previous pages in thread about rarities to find out who posted that first so... come ooon.
Chill, but since I know the story it would be just nice, to read the truth.
EDIT: I see those special thanks now, so, all the more chill.

MAXTER
06-30-2011, 01:41 AM
It looks like the news is about remastering not the discover. Btw, you only had to read few previous pages in thread about rarities to find out who posted that first so... come ooon.

That's Da Point!

SkuM
07-06-2011, 06:09 PM
Hey I just bought the tape from Krispy. I will try to find a professional studio or something like that here in my hometown. Maybe we can make it sound better. When it arrives I'll send more news... that's all folks :P

Greekoldfan
07-06-2011, 11:33 PM
hi skum!long time to see you!don't forget the scanns :P