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Al Coholic
09-15-2011, 12:13 AM
The sequal is never as good.


Wheelchairman would respond that he much enjoys an obscure beer from Denmark
Mario Spaghettio would comment on how liberal beer snobs like Wheelchairman have drunkenly voted us into a socialistic armagheddon
T-6005 would write the first third of a short story involving beer, to be continued
JohnnyNemesis would respons that he secretly likes fruity beers, especially this new banana bread beer he recently tried.
1 minute 22 seconds later, a user would respond with a banana/JN Penis joke
two more users would make similar jokes. One of them is 0r4ng3. It's good to see him again.
Llamas, being a woman and all, would make a long rant about how theres sexism in making fun of fruity beers.
T-6005 would give up writing about his beer story, and in stead write the first half of an even longer story about the process of writing a beer story.
yellow responds that she doesn't like beer, but she doesn't like having cancer even less
bighead responds that two years ago he made a thread about beer, but nobody was ever intersted in what he had to say. Now that Al here is making the same thread, people respond. It's funny how that works. Anyway, this thread's not about him...
2 users take the bait, making this thread about bighead
bighead says 'what are you guys talking about?' while masturbating
1565 intervenes and gets bighead to stop trolling. She's pretty cool.
Several eastern europeans, specifically for some reason slovakians, rescue the thread and take it back on track.
Seriously, why are there so many Slovakians?
Skiping over some kind of long llamas rant, dff punk makes fun of JNs faggy beer taste (bananas, really?)
Tijs randomly edits his name in somewhere.
llamas makes some kind of rant about how gay it is to call his fruity beer faggy.
Have you noticed we've switched tenses? It started out with so and so 'would' something something. Too late, I'm not editing all these
Baldwin surfaces, and writes an entertaining page-and-a-half about how we're all alcoholics on some downward cycle that invariably leads to heavy drug use. The term 'pill of hop' is used. None of us are quite sure what that means.
A bot would respond with "I find this topic most interesting, especially because the JohnnyNemesis penis pilsner. Very much to think about"
1565 deletes the awesome bot response because it had an add for some kind of Russian Xanax. She sucks now.
Ozymandias
Harlequinn responds that she also likes fruity beers
We all just remembered again that Harley is acutally a girl
Dwayne Mosley, badass extrodianarre, contributes his opinion, like it or not, that Miller light reigns supreme. Deal with it.
sKratch reccomends this awesome black lager that was brewed in the former Yugoslavia before the country disbanded. Obscurovic' pivo, which is sold in over 3 locations on the Eastern sea board.
Renato Piquette is within 1000 feet of a middle school. Nothing's going on, he's just eating lunch; but still, weird.
Static Martyr responds with a very long story you don't really read. Something about a date who ordered a Hebrew, and he blew it by talking about atheism for 3 hours
Analguy has but one favorite to put in his body
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQI6WVDlF3q5gs9OgZo3adcMmUg-fTXYDSs5mPjOUkXMESxBwl3
The thread dies as the rest of you complain about how it's been done and then procede to make more penis jokes.

WebDudette
09-15-2011, 12:23 AM
penis joke.

Omni
09-15-2011, 02:54 AM
I'm one of maybe 25 active posters and I somehow manage to not get mentioned. Nice.

Homer
09-15-2011, 03:10 AM
Yeah, way to go, dick.

ThunderPX
09-15-2011, 03:26 AM
Personally I prefer Grolsch.

mrconeman
09-15-2011, 03:33 AM
I'm one of maybe 25 active posters and I somehow manage to not get mentioned. Nice.

Bighead is going to say you care too much.

Personally I don't give a FUCK that I wasn't mentioned.

onoes Bighead is going to say I'm only pretending to not care to sound badass :(

Paint_It_Black
09-15-2011, 03:40 AM
So, how drunk were you?

dff_punk
09-15-2011, 05:41 AM
Black Horse sounds like a faggy beer.

Llamas
09-15-2011, 07:41 AM
Shit, I just wrote a huge rant why I'm being type casted suddenly as the annoying feminist ranter, and then I accidentally refreshed the page and I lost it. But you're all a bunch of sexists, anyway.

And fuck you fuckers who didn't get mentioned; I was mentioned like 4 times. Clearly I am super awesome and Al loves me.

I wanna try some Obscurovic. Sounds Croatian to me :)

wheelchairman
09-15-2011, 08:46 AM
Didn't the last time Al do this thing with boobies, it was amazing?

How come this has only happened twice in his posting career? This is heinous. Both these posts are great, perhaps only for llamas' replies.

Nah that's not fair, definitely also cause of the original post, but it was fun to see how it prompted (provoked?) Llamas' presumably drunk response. (You are drunk, right Bri?)

wheelchairman
09-15-2011, 08:49 AM
I'm one of maybe 25 active posters and I somehow manage to not get mentioned. Nice.

This is a thread about beer, quit WINEing.

HA get it! It's a pun! Do you want some cheese with your WINE?

Llamas
09-15-2011, 08:52 AM
Didn't the last time Al do this thing with boobies, it was amazing?

How come this has only happened twice in his posting career? This is heinous. Both these posts are great, perhaps only for llamas' replies.

Nah that's not fair, definitely also cause of the original post, but it was fun to see how it prompted (provoked?) Llamas' presumably drunk response.

Hahahaha I was wondering if anyone would take my post seriously. I wasn't expecting it to be you, though :D I couldn't be arsed to actually write a rant, so I figured this would have to seem believable enough... But aren't these threads all about playing into Al's stereotypes about us?


(You are drunk, right Bri?)

I disagree.

wheelchairman
09-15-2011, 08:58 AM
Hence why I wrote prompted first and not in parenthesis... :p But now you're just stealing Bighead's schtick.

Quick, start talking about your expertise in English (thus breaking away from the bighead schtick and perhaps cementing a new stereotype of you.)

personal_loans_1
09-15-2011, 08:59 AM
No God's plan for me? I'm freeee!!!!!!!

Llamas
09-15-2011, 09:10 AM
Hence why I wrote prompted first and not in parenthesis... :p But now you're just stealing Bighead's schtick.

Quick, start talking about your expertise in English (thus breaking away from the bighead schtick and perhaps cementing a new stereotype of you.)

Bahaha. Now when I reread my post, it does sound like something bighead posted.

I'm the god of English teaching and anyone who disagrees is a fag.

Free?
09-15-2011, 09:24 AM
No God's plan for me? I'm freeee!!!!!!!

No, I am free!!! ...or am I not?




I'm the god of English teaching and anyone who disagrees is a fag.


I disagree.
?!


P.S.: How about answering that PM of mine regarding this very issue of English teaching though?

Harleyquiiinn
09-15-2011, 10:06 AM
Wait, I'm a girl ????!!!

I thought I was a gay man :(

Llamas
09-15-2011, 10:26 AM
?!
:D



P.S.: How about answering that PM of mine regarding this very issue of English teaching though?

lol how I suck at responding to PMs... Rageandlov and PiB should know. I'll get around to it :)

mrconeman
09-15-2011, 10:28 AM
?!



The shoe is on the other hand.

Little_Miss_1565
09-15-2011, 11:11 AM
I lol'd .

T-6005
09-15-2011, 11:54 AM
The shoe is on the other hand.

Ironically, I guess you're lucky there's a foot there.

Llamas
09-15-2011, 12:21 PM
Whaaaa, why is everyone taking me so seriously all of a sudden? :-S

wheelchairman
09-15-2011, 12:43 PM
Because when you're not serious you're talking about JN's penis. Which you've yet to do, ergo you must be serious. Why are you taking everyone seriously?

bighead384
09-15-2011, 12:49 PM
Alright, that's it, I'm not going to post here anymore.

yarock
09-15-2011, 02:08 PM
What would Ivan say?

Llamas
09-15-2011, 02:11 PM
Because when you're not serious you're talking about JN's penis. Which you've yet to do, ergo you must be serious. Why are you taking everyone seriously?

lolz good point!


Alright, that's it, I'm not going to post here anymore.

lolz good riddance!


What would Ivan say?

lolz good joke!

sKratch
09-15-2011, 06:01 PM
The sequal is never as good.
sKratch reccomends this awesome black lager that was brewed in the former Yugoslavia before the country disbanded. Obscurovic' pivo, which is sold in over 3 locations on the Eastern sea board.


I always wonder if I'm remembered...

mario_spaghettio
09-15-2011, 06:08 PM
Lol, I really can't stand craft beer snobbery. Busch Light is my go to brew.

Paint_It_Black
09-15-2011, 07:06 PM
Remember when Bri said the Beatles weren't talented? That was funny.

This thread is just about making fun of Bri, right?

0r4ng3
09-15-2011, 07:21 PM
I spent a good five minutes trying to think of something to avoid my typecast. But alas,

lol bananarchy penis beer

calichix
09-15-2011, 07:37 PM
This is a thread about beer, quit WINEing.



I was like two seconds away from hair flipping this whole thread, and then this happened.

JohnnyNemesis
09-15-2011, 08:32 PM
This thead is amazing.


Busch Light is my go to brew.

I wish you were dead.

mario_spaghettio
09-15-2011, 08:39 PM
This thead is amazing.



I wish you were dead.I hope your skinny jeans shrink in the dryer

bighead384
09-15-2011, 08:57 PM
No one acknowledged that I said I was leaving the boards. I'm just going to go ahead and assume that you guys knew I was joking.

Anyway, here's a position on beer. Well, at least in the "go-to-beer" category:

None of the "higher quality" beers taste good enough to justify the higher price. Well it depends on how much higher, but I mean anything that will add up over time.

mario_spaghettio
09-16-2011, 09:40 AM
I think for most craft beer drinkers it's all about the image. "look at me, I'm drinking a Scraggly Dogg Dog Days Of Summer Brew. You've never heard of any of the bands I listen to" I wonder if they know how ridiculous they look?

mrconeman
09-16-2011, 10:05 AM
Beer gets you drunk.

bighead384
09-16-2011, 10:06 AM
I think for most craft beer drinkers it's all about the image. "look at me, I'm drinking a Scraggly Dogg Dog Days Of Summer Brew. You've never heard of any of the bands I listen to" I wonder if they know how ridiculous they look?

Agreed. If I just assume that everyone who is a connoisseur on beer is a douchebag, something tells me I'll never end up regretting it. There's just something about being a connoisseur of something that, relatively speaking, doesn't taste that good in the first place that I don't buy. Oh and just by mere coincidence, it makes you seem sophisticated and edgy. I'm not going to grill someone just because they happen to have tasted a lot of beers and have some opinions. But making a big deal out of it is stupid. I'm quite happy to think in this manner and won't change my mind. Beer connoisseurs are losers.

mario_spaghettio
09-16-2011, 09:30 PM
Beer gets you drunk.:):(:confused::mad:

Outerspaceman21
09-16-2011, 11:21 PM
This thread is vaguely familiar, though I can't quite put my finger on it.

I enjoy wheat beers most. My beer of choice as of recent has been Blue Moon, but I tend not to care as long as I get drunk.

personal_loans_1
09-17-2011, 08:00 AM
I'm one of maybe 25 active posters and I somehow manage to not get mentioned. Nice.

it's because you're alcoholic anonymous,
hi Jaaaaames.

JohnnyNemesis
09-17-2011, 09:28 AM
Craft beer isn't about looking cool. It's about being interested in the brewing process and enjoying something that doesn't taste like water and look like urine.

mrconeman
09-17-2011, 10:15 AM
Just don't drink Budweiser then. Or Miller, or any popular American beer.

bighead384
09-17-2011, 10:36 AM
Craft beer isn't about looking cool. It's about being interested in the brewing process and enjoying something that doesn't taste like water and look like urine.

To me, there's really no reason why this is a relatively POPULAR interest. Seriously, taking the time and money to become an expert of a drink that isn't even popular for it's taste in the first place? Why would that appeal to so many people unless they're trying to be impressive.

In all honesty, being an expert on beer sets off my "this guy might be a tool" warning system. But it really depends on how they act about it.

Llamas
09-17-2011, 11:10 AM
Agreed. If I just assume that everyone who is a connoisseur on beer is a douchebag, something tells me I'll never end up regretting it. There's just something about being a connoisseur of something that, relatively speaking, doesn't taste that good in the first place that I don't buy. Oh and just by mere coincidence, it makes you seem sophisticated and edgy. I'm not going to grill someone just because they happen to have tasted a lot of beers and have some opinions. But making a big deal out of it is stupid. I'm quite happy to think in this manner and won't change my mind. Beer connoisseurs are losers.

Do you feel the same about wine connoisseurs? Cause I think wine tastes like ass. And good wine is wayyyyyyyyy more expensive than good beer.

I like me a good beer. I won't drink anything like Miller and American Bud because I simply can't stand it. I used to think I just didn't like beer until I tried good stuff. I'm no connoisseur, but I enjoy a good pint. And when it comes to wine, I really can't taste a difference between a $5 bottle and a $100 bottle.

mrconeman
09-17-2011, 11:15 AM
Do you feel the same about wine connoisseurs? Cause I think wine tastes like ass. And good wine is wayyyyyyyyy more expensive than good beer.

You ruined it :( Everyone had ignored him so perfectly in the thread so far. :(:(:(



I like me a good beer.
Harp Harp Harp Harp

wheelchairman
09-17-2011, 11:32 AM
Really? We're wondering why something alcohol is popular? The one societal constant we have other than prostitution?

Gee, this is a goddamn mystery, someone get the scooby gang on this immediately.

bighead384
09-17-2011, 11:38 AM
Do you feel the same about wine connoisseurs?

Maybe somewhat, but I don't know that many wine connoisseurs. But one thing I'd point out is that wine connoisseurs almost always have a lot of money to blow, so that makes it a little different.

Wheelchairman, it's popular because it has alcohol in it, yes. But are the "connoisseurs" focused on the alcohol? No, they are focused on the taste. The taste of a beverage that isn't even popular for it's taste and, relatively speaking, doesn't taste good. What you said makes no sense.

[redacted]

mrconeman
09-17-2011, 12:38 PM
lol u mad bro?
umad

jacknife737
09-17-2011, 02:08 PM
He a little mad.

I actually wish a lot of the US craft/microbrews found there way to soviet cannuckastan, but alas it's usually just the major US brands: even stuff like blue moon and sam adams can be a bit difficult to come by.

Llamas
09-17-2011, 03:13 PM
You ruined it Everyone had ignored him so perfectly in the thread so far.
oshit, sorry :(:(


Harp Harp Harp Harp
You know, I remember really liking Harp, and it's been ages since I've had one... but I've since found quite a few beers I enjoy more. Amusingly to go with this thread, I've been drinking a lot of a beer from a former Yugoslavian country (Montenegro)
http://beeradvocate.com/im/beers/44075.jpg

Slovenian beer is crap - there's two beers, and one is just slightly less piss-watery than the other. So I mostly stick to imports. I drink Staropramen and Budvar when I can find them... and I've recently discovered that I enjoy Leffe as a stand-alone beer.

Can't find Harp here, though... you should send me a few for comparison :D


Really? We're wondering why something alcohol is popular? The one societal constant we have other than prostitution?

Gee, this is a goddamn mystery, someone get the scooby gang on this immediately.

bahahaha. At the end of the day, we're all just looking for a nice drunk. Some people just like the chance to appreciate and enjoy what they are drinking before they're drunk. If I were in the US and looking to get drunk with the least amount of money, I'd be drinking nothing but 40s and bottom shelf vodka. However, I'm not a poor college student, so I like to drink good shit while getting drunk.


lol u mad bro?
umad

bighead drinks piss water and bottom shelf vodka. Of course he's mad - I would be, too.

Omni
09-17-2011, 05:04 PM
He a little mad.

I actually wish a lot of the US craft/microbrews found there way to soviet cannuckastan, but alas it's usually just the major US brands: even stuff like blue moon and sam adams can be a bit difficult to come by.


Blue Moon is hard to come by where you live? Canadia is a deprived land.


The only popular "good 'ol boy" kind of American beer I like is Coors (not Coors Light). Coors is somewhat the standard. It's not close to the best beer, but if a beer doesn't taste AS good as Coors, it's just a bottle of chilled urine.


bighead, some people really do like the taste of beer, including myself. You don't have to be into brewing in order to enjoy the taste, that's why discussing brands is such an easy icebreaking conversation topic. I never drink beer to get drunk, I rarely ever have more than two at once. I drink it because I enjoy the taste.

I admit the whole concept of acquired taste (which is usually what a beer drinker will say to a person who drinks beer for the first time and hates the hell out of it) kind of doesn't make sense, because you'll like virtually anything if you do it long enough, but there are brands out there very rich in taste that don't take any warming up to. Like llamas said, she thought she hated beer until she had stuff that wasn't made in large quantities cheaply to make a quick buck off of drunks. Some beer (I'm looking at you, Steel Reserve) really are made without regard for taste, only to get the effect of alcohol cheaply. It's dumb to assume all beers are created equal, though.

Omni
09-17-2011, 05:08 PM
it's because you're alcoholic anonymous,
hi Jaaaaames.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yl3UMO-TkE

IamSam
09-17-2011, 05:12 PM
I hope your skinny jeans shrink in the dryer
This is by far the funniest thing you have ever posted. Also, the most backwards homosexual thing you've posted because JN has a big penis. Freud would say you would like to see this picture of shrunken skinny jeans on a craft bear drinking JN.


To me, there's really no reason why this is a relatively POPULAR interest. Seriously, taking the time and money to become an expert of a drink that isn't even popular for it's taste in the first place? Why would that appeal to so many people unless they're trying to be impressive.

In all honesty, being an expert on beer sets off my "this guy might be a tool" warning system. But it really depends on how they act about it.

However, being an expert of bud is totally different. Rightrightright?

PS: Obviously you've never tried some amazing microbrews because bro, you are missing out.


You ruined it :( Everyone had ignored him so perfectly in the thread so far. :(:(:(


YEAH goddamn llamas!

Some hometown stuff right here: Moose Drool (http://www.bigskybrew.com/Our_Beers/Moose_Drool)

Paint_It_Black
09-17-2011, 08:17 PM
You ruined it :( Everyone had ignored him so perfectly in the thread so far. :(:(:(

That was the best thing about this thread. It's like everyone had a secret meeting and agreed to all just ignore him. I guess we have to invite Bri next time.


lol u mad bro?
umad

I love you.


Beer gets you drunk.

I actually think that's the worst reason to drink beer. I have some beers occasionally because I like the taste but if I want to get drunk I'll drink the hard stuff. Not for any snobbish reason, it's just easier to accomplish with the hard stuff. And beer drunk usually seems to be accompanied with nausea and bloating, probably because I have to consume so much of it in such a short time to actually feel drunk. So yeah, I drink a beer occasionally if it sounds good but drinking enough to get drunk usually doesn't end well.


Just don't drink Budweiser then. Or Miller, or any popular American beer.

Budweiser is by far my favorite beer. Has been since I was 18 or so. I don't get really why there is such a backlash against it amongst "serious" beer drinkers.

Cider would actually be my drink of choice but that tends to make me feel even worse than beer does. Sucks to be me.

I love how this has tentatively become an actual discussion about beer. We stay on topic the one time we're not supposed to.

Al Coholic
09-17-2011, 11:56 PM
Budweiser is by far my favorite beer. Has been since I was 18 or so. I don't get really why there is such a backlash against it amongst "serious" beer drinkers.

I would like to say it's terrible. It's not. If it was steel reserve, ok. It's an unimpressive beer to me, but I bet in a blind taste test I would rank it higher.

The reason bud and bud light get a backlash are because of bud light drinkers. Bud Light drinkers are the worst kind of beer drinkers. Atleast Steel Reserve bums have character. Atleast PBR pounding hipsters have tried something else. Atleast craft beer snobs* appreciate what they're drinking.

No, the majority of Bud Light drinkers drink beer to get drunk. They want something cheap, and they basically took whatever was handed to them. Whatever they were told to drink. Whatever everyone else was already drinking (so not punmk rock). They go to the grocery, and in front of 85 kinds of beer, chose the one with the most watery flavor everytime. And they actually claim to enjoy 'beer'. Beer, a universal word that encompasses so much. It would be as though everytime I went to get ice cream, at home, out, wherever, I got vanilla. Vanilla, vanilla, vanilla. And after years of that shit I said "I love ice cream." Fuck you, no I don't. I don't know shit about ice cream. You don't know shit about beer, you don't like 'beer', you like Bud Light.

And what kills you is these people don't even try. They don't even have ambition. Have them at your house. Go to the store and get a couple of those custom six packs. Help them, offer them. "I have this really good irish red, a black ale that's pretty awesome, there's a couple belgian whites and yada yada yada, and some bud light." They'll pick the Bud light. Hell, these people think Heineken is like, this really good expensive beer. It's not, it's literally the import version of Bud Light.

And Bud drinkers? As someone who worked bars for a while, I can tell you they're often just Bud Light drinkers being cheap asses and getting it because it's .8% stronger.

Outerspaceman21
09-18-2011, 01:49 AM
I would like to say it's terrible. It's not. If it was steel reserve, ok. It's an unimpressive beer to me, but I bet in a blind taste test I would rank it higher.

The reason bud and bud light get a backlash are because of bud light drinkers. Bud Light drinkers are the worst kind of beer drinkers. Atleast Steel Reserve bums have character. Atleast PBR pounding hipsters have tried something else. Atleast craft beer snobs* appreciate what they're drinking.

No, the majority of Bud Light drinkers drink beer to get drunk. They want something cheap, and they basically took whatever was handed to them. Whatever they were told to drink. Whatever everyone else was already drinking (so not punmk rock). They go to the grocery, and in front of 85 kinds of beer, chose the one with the most watery flavor everytime. And they actually claim to enjoy 'beer'. Beer, a universal word that encompasses so much. It would be as though everytime I went to get ice cream, at home, out, wherever, I got vanilla. Vanilla, vanilla, vanilla. And after years of that shit I said "I love ice cream." Fuck you, no I don't. I don't know shit about ice cream. You don't know shit about beer, you don't like 'beer', you like Bud Light.

And what kills you is these people don't even try. They don't even have ambition. Have them at your house. Go to the store and get a couple of those custom six packs. Help them, offer them. "I have this really good irish red, a black ale that's pretty awesome, there's a couple belgian whites and yada yada yada, and some bud light." They'll pick the Bud light. Hell, these people think Heineken is like, this really good expensive beer. It's not, it's literally the import version of Bud Light.

And Bud drinkers? As someone who worked bars for a while, I can tell you they're often just Bud Light drinkers being cheap asses and getting it because it's .8% stronger.

I agree with that. Whenever my friends get together for parties, we drink bud. We get 2 30 packs, play beer pong and an assortment of drinking games because Bud is cheap and effective.

And a lot of them don't have ambition, strangely enough. We talk about what we're gonna do, but rarely does anyone actually do something. I'm probably the closest one because I go to college, but they don't. Some don't go to school, some don't even work, they just do nothing. It's really sad sometimes.

dff_punk
09-18-2011, 02:03 AM
Strangely, a little supermarket by my house started selling foreign beers I've never seen before nor heard of in my country. Mostly some belgian or english ones I presume, but not the famous ones, didn't want to look weird to look at each bottle in detail(there were about 15). This is the one I tried first:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauwel_Kwak

It was really delightful, I have a thing for good stronger specials. Pity I didn't have that surreal glass which is on that picture. My mother had too, but she has little tolerance so almost fell asleep after drinking it, haha. Looking forward to my next adventure.

Omni
09-18-2011, 06:23 AM
Bud Light really is the quintessential party beer. There's no reason to buy it unless it's in bulk for a big party. But to it's credit, I think it's the best tasting of the American "Light" beers. Miller Light, Coors Light, Busch Light, they're all tied for the worst thing ever invented.

Llamas
09-18-2011, 07:16 AM
Bud Light really is the quintessential party beer. There's no reason to buy it unless it's in bulk for a big party. But to it's credit, I think it's the best tasting of the American "Light" beers. Miller Light, Coors Light, Busch Light, they're all tied for the worst thing ever invented.

If I have to drink a commercial American beer, it's Michelob Golden. Dunno if that's a "light" beer, though.

Al Coholic
09-18-2011, 07:19 AM
Strangely, a little supermarket by my house started selling foreign beers I've never seen before nor heard of in my country. Mostly some belgian or english ones I presume, but not the famous ones, didn't want to look weird to look at each bottle in detail(there were about 15). This is the one I tried first:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauwel_Kwak

It was really delightful, I have a thing for good stronger specials. Pity I didn't have that surreal glass which is on that picture. My mother had too, but she has little tolerance so almost fell asleep after drinking it, haha. Looking forward to my next adventure.

Kwak! Had it. Own the glass. Totes.

mrconeman
09-18-2011, 07:21 AM
I love you.


Bonding over mutual disdain is the best bonding <3.




I actually think that's the worst reason to drink beer. I have some beers occasionally because I like the taste but if I want to get drunk I'll drink the hard stuff. Not for any snobbish reason, it's just easier to accomplish with the hard stuff. And beer drunk usually seems to be accompanied with nausea and bloating, probably because I have to consume so much of it in such a short time to actually feel drunk. So yeah, I drink a beer occasionally if it sounds good but drinking enough to get drunk usually doesn't end well.
See, I can kind of go either way, and be happy enough. I'll happily sit and watch a film, and top out on maybe 3 beers, not be anywhere near drunk, but enjoy my duration, because I love the taste of a good beer, in the right circumstance. Nothing beats cracking open a cold one on a Sunday night after dinner to sit down with a film or few tv shows.

But then as anyone who has me on Facebook probably knows, I also like to go out and get plastered every other weekend, usually drinking the same substance. I don't really like going harder than beers, because as seems to be the case with everyone else for beer, I really don't like the taste of pretty much any of the harder stuff. Vodka is death for example. Though a White Russian goes down fantastically. Rum is pretty good with the right mixer too. But Beer is just convenient, tastes good if you're just relaxing, and gets you drunk if that's the aim.



Budweiser is by far my favorite beer. Has been since I was 18 or so. I don't get really why there is such a backlash against it amongst "serious" beer drinkers.
See I wouldn't really consider myself a "serious" beer drinker either. I mean, I know what I like, and I've tried a bunch of the more adventurous beers, because some of my friends really do consider themselves connoisseurs, so we go to beer festivals every year in the summer, which are great fun. Outside of those events though, I stick to a beer from here, made by the makers of Guinness, called Harp. It's in 9 out of 10 pubs here, on tap, it's nothing adventurous or exciting, it's just a really nice local beer. I also really really like Guinness, seriously. It tastes like how music sounds. But again, Guinness is pretty much more common here than water.

I genuinely cannot drink American beers, Miller for me is the worst of them all, with Bud a close second. It's not the holier than thou thing where people just say popular American beers suck, it's just that, they kind of do :(. They're way too gassy and the fizz is really unpleasant. There's like a bubble gum vibe off Bud. Nasty. The only one I can stomach is Sam Adams, but even it has the gassy American trademark.



Cider would actually be my drink of choice but that tends to make me feel even worse than beer does. Sucks to be me.

Cider was the first time I was ever drunk, which ended extremely badly, and I will hold it against Cider for the rest of my days. In all though I just don't like the taste. People think I'm weird, because my favourite liquid pretty much on planet earth is Apple Juice, so apparently I should like Apple Cider. But Apple Cider tastes like Apple Juice the way Wine tastes like grapes. It doesn't.

Llamas
09-18-2011, 09:19 AM
When I go out with the aim of getting super drunk, I never drink beer, this is true. I generally drink mix drinks... vodka with a bit of oj, rum with a bit of coke... it's cheaper to get drunk this way, and much faster. Takes me three beers to feel a nice buzz... but two shots of vodka, which is one mix drink for me, and I'm on my way.


I genuinely cannot drink American beers, Miller for me is the worst of them all, with Bud a close second. It's not the holier than thou thing where people just say popular American beers suck, it's just that, they kind of do :(. They're way too gassy and the fizz is really unpleasant. There's like a bubble gum vibe off Bud. Nasty. The only one I can stomach is Sam Adams, but even it has the gassy American trademark.

Miller Lite is bad, but I still contest that Coors Light is worse. I think Coors Light is the worst light beer in the US.

But worst of the worst are Milwaukee's Best and high grav in general. *shudder*

Omni
09-18-2011, 04:08 PM
If I have to drink a commercial American beer, it's Michelob Golden. Dunno if that's a "light" beer, though.


Maybe light in color, but I meant just the beers that say "light" in the title, to note that they're watered down and contain fewer carbs.


Alright, American beer on whole is pretty bad. I actually think Sam Adams is quite good and can hang with the best. But that's okay, America gets other things right. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

Paint_It_Black
09-18-2011, 05:36 PM
I really don't like the taste of pretty much any of the harder stuff

Like beer it's pretty much just an acquired taste. Any alcohol is horrible at first. I don't think I've met anyone who actually liked their first alcoholic beverage, unless it was Smirnoff Ice or something.

I like basically any mixed drink ever and I enjoy a lot of stuff straight too. I actually think I could become a liquor snob if I had the money to buy the good stuff and really experiment.

Margaritas have been my favorite thing for some time now. The taste is just fantastic and I get the best kind of drunk off them. Comes on quick, feels great, goes away quick with no negative effects at all. Perfect for going out for a couple hours. Somehow though only cheap mexican restaurants seem to make them right. And they often have insane deals, like 99 cents for a huge delicious motherfucker that gets me buzzed in one drink. I can go to a fancier place and pay 6 bucks for something that doesn't taste as good and has half the alcohol.


They're way too gassy and the fizz is really unpleasant. There's like a bubble gum vibe off Bud. Nasty. The only one I can stomach is Sam Adams, but even it has the gassy American trademark.

Ah, makes sense in that case. I actually love the gassiness. Though it may be why I feel sick quite quickly drinking beer.

Harp is ok. Guinness is not my thing but again so much of it is about acquired taste.

My first favorite beer was Castlemaine XXXX. I used to ride my bike with a friend to this nearby village where the local had it on tap. We were only 16 which is why we had to go to a different village. Back then most bartenders didn't give a shit if you were underage but it was best not to flaunt it. The ride back was usually interesting. Anyway, I haven't had that in so long I have no idea now if I'd still love it.

I used to drink a lot of Fosters just because it was readily available, cheap and tolerable.



No, the majority of Bud Light drinkers drink beer to get drunk. They want something cheap, and they basically took whatever was handed to them. Whatever they were told to drink. Whatever everyone else was already drinking (so not punmk rock). They go to the grocery, and in front of 85 kinds of beer, chose the one with the most watery flavor everytime. And they actually claim to enjoy 'beer'.

Actually, now that you say that, that sounds a lot like the only heavy beer drinker I know. A lot like.


Hell, these people think Heineken is like, this really good expensive beer

I'm starting to think we know the same guy.



And Bud drinkers? As someone who worked bars for a while, I can tell you they're often just Bud Light drinkers being cheap asses and getting it because it's .8% stronger.

Well, I genuinely enjoy Budweiser but hate Bud Light. If light beer was the only thing available I just wouldn't have a beer, generally. I find it hard to believe that someone who prefers Bud Light would drink Budweiser just because it's stronger. And yet I know you're right. Again, you're perfectly describing my one beer drinking friend. I guess the reason I can't understand this is because I don't drink beer to get drunk. I suppose if getting drunk is your only motivation then getting the strongest and cheapest beer is logical. Though in that case I still don't see why that person wouldn't just do shots.

WebDudette
09-18-2011, 09:19 PM
I just want to say, Sam Adams sucks. America has a lot of good beers and brewers, Sam Adams is not one of them.

For the longest time, I felt like bighead. I just drank beer to get drunk and thought it tasted terrible. All the sudden it clicked, not just for good beers, I can drink a bud light every now and then too. Unlike bighead, I didn't think everyone was pretending to be everything they're not and they were all exactly like me on the inside, I just thought it wasn't for me. You know, different strokes for different folks. I felt the same about a lot of liquors too Now I've just learned that I hate most cheap liquors, most vodka drinks, spiced rum, and every other sugary/syrupy/sweet liquor.

I'd almost always prefer a dark, heavy beer to IPA's, but I don't think I've had one I didn't like. I like most Irish Red's I've had, even the Samuel Adams Irish Red. I was able to pick up some 90 Shilling Ale and Negra Modelo this weekend. The first 90 Shilling I had just wasn't very good, but I think I just couldn't really taste it because of what I'd been eating, I had some later that were pretty good. I drink Negra Modelo all the time, I really like it.

I haven't had Blue Moon in a long time, but I remember it being similar to Shock Top in the sense that I was really disappointed at how watery it tasted.

Oh, Samuel Adams Chocolate Bock is actually really good too, but I have to assume all other breweries chocolate beers are better.

Omni
09-18-2011, 10:18 PM
Of all of the major and famous American brews, I think Sam Adams is leagues above most.


Blue Moon is actually my favorite. It and Shock-Top are both very similar. I was under the impression Blue Moon was pretty well respected, but I'm no aficionado and don't pretend to be, so maybe it's actually not that great compared to the really "high end" beer or whatever. Or maybe Blue Moon is just too light for your taste, to each their own.

WebDudette
09-18-2011, 10:55 PM
Yeah, it's definitely way better than miller, bush, michelob, pabst, coors, and all the other garbage. Plus, I forgot to mention some of their other seasonal brews are pretty good, but for the most part I think you can get better beer for the same price, it's not exactly a bargain beer like the other mainstream brewers.

I know a lot of people who love Blue Moon and again it's leagues ahead of the other big name brews, but like you said it's just not my thing.

I haven't tried nearly as much beer as I'd like. I'm still only 20 and don't get a whole lot of opportunities to try new stuff, I just have overly strong opinions about the stuff I have tried.

WebDudette
09-18-2011, 11:36 PM
What the fuck is this all about? It's "leagues ahead of the other big name brews" but it's just not your thing? So you don't like it, but somehow it's still worthy of respect? Christ man, we're talking about TASTE here. It either tastes good or it doesn't. Or are you that much of a fucking expert that you've research the ins and outs of how Blue Moon makes beer and somehow it's worthy of respect?

I'm sorry, but it's shit like this that makes me think the way I do about "beer connoisseurs". No, I don't instantly think negatively about someone who claims to be an expert on beer. But for all the threads about beer made on these boards, EVERYONE who has rubbed me as being pretentious and self-rightoues at one point or another just so happens to be a beer expert.

If I had to choose between a Blue Moon and a Coors, I'm taking the Blue Moon. What I really want though, is a Negra Modelo. Here, I'll explain it like your five. If I have to choose between McDonalds and Burger King, I'll take Burger King. What I really want though, is In-N-Out. In the end, it's a lot better than most mainstream beers, I'll drink it if it's there, but I think it gets a little more credit than it deserves and it's not my thing.

You can respect that something is good or well-done, while also seeing that it's just not your thing. If you want, I can explain that like you're five. I'm not a huge fan of Led Zeppelin, but I can respect that they are a damn talented bunch of guys, and I'll listen to them over a lot of other mainstream bands.

As for the last bit, I don't claim to be an expert. I've only even tasted a handful of beers, I'm just giving my opinions on the ones I actually have had. I think you're just rubbed the wrong way when people like things you don't like, or enjoy things in general. On a related note I forgot to mention that I don't like Heineken. I haven't had it in a long time, but I remember it being mostly tasteless.

Nice ninja-delete skills you've got their, hermano.

calichix
09-19-2011, 12:24 AM
good beer doesn't make you feel as shitty the next day either. not like that High Times shit from Trader Joe's- you can drink ONE beer and have a hangover the next day.

why do people say "you don't drink beer for the taste"? is there a better taste in the world than when you've been at the beach or in the hot sun all day then you go get a shrimp burrito and a beer? (no)


you know what beer was great? the one with frank zappas face on it. I think it's someone else's face now but it was the only way I could identify it :'(

Homer
09-19-2011, 01:33 AM
I was on page 3 and decided to skip to the end of the thread and then essays happened.

wheelchairman
09-19-2011, 06:22 AM
The difference between me and a beer-connoisseur is a good memory.

I'd be a better beer-connoisseur if I could remember which beers I liked best. Unfortunately I can barely remember whether or not I liked a specific beer last time I tried it.

But like all things good in life (except women, they actually function in directly the opposite manner), beer is an acquired taste, meaning you'll hate it at first and then grow to love it. (See what I mean about women.)

bighead384
09-19-2011, 07:43 AM
You can respect that something is good or well-done, while also seeing that it's just not your thing. If you want, I can explain that like you're five. I'm not a huge fan of Led Zeppelin, but I can respect that they are a damn talented bunch of guys, and I'll listen to them over a lot of other mainstream bands.


No that's way different. How is Blue Moon "good or well done" if it doesn't taste good? I mean, would you say something like "Five Guys isn't my thing, but I respect the care they take to focus on the quality of their beef"? No, you'd just say you don't like it. Do you have to talk like an asshole just because you're talking about something that makes you "sophisticated"?

calichix
09-19-2011, 07:58 AM
beer being the ultimate sophisticate-r

bighead384
09-19-2011, 08:14 AM
beer being the ultimate sophisticate-r

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/24/23-microbreweries/

It's not like I'm the only one who thinks this. There's a reason that "beer-conosiueers" have rubbed many people the wrong way. Why is that so hard to admit? Because the "white people" who frequent this board happen to have this interest? People get rubbed the wrong way by groups of people, and then develop sort of a bias against that group all the time. Doesn't mean you have to act on it or pretend it's true 100% of the time. You just know it's there and has some basis in reality. Am I really such a "he claims to know how everyone thinks" asshole for stating this?

Maybe progressive liberal-ish types have made some strides in not being prejudiced or closed-minded or being caring, but I don't buy that they think the way they claim to think. It's just too unrealistic when I think of my experiences with people. I wouldn't call out an individual person for something like this unless I had a really good reason to, but I know this type of person exists. But I think these people are just as annoying as the type of people who pat themselves on the back for "telling it like it is" when really it's just them who is fucked up.

mrconeman
09-19-2011, 11:02 AM
My God, you are incredibly stupid.

Hey guys, remember when this thread* wasn't about bighead? Good times.

*every thread.

bighead384
09-19-2011, 12:21 PM
Whatever fag.

Beer connoisseurs are often hipster-eqsue try-hards, as many people know full well.

I didn't make this thread "about myself" until my mentality was attacked personally (ie I think everyone feels the same as me deep down inside). Way to exaggerate and misrepresent what happened though, you jackass.

Llamas
09-19-2011, 12:31 PM
I was enjoying actually discussing what kinds of beers people like, and what people think about popular American beers. I also enjoyed the original topic that Al posted. It was funnies.

Discussing whether or not "Beer connoisseurs are often hipster-eqsue try-hards, as many people know full well" kinda ruined my interest in the thread.

Happens a lot when bighead joins the conversation.

bighead384
09-19-2011, 12:39 PM
That's a bunch of crap, the thread would've died soon anyway, just like any other thread where people ramble on about beer.

And maybe the "white people" (I'm sorry I just love this term/that site) that post here shouldn't be so defensive about the idea that "beer experts" are often pretentious losers and there wouldn't be a discussion about that subtopic in the first place. It would just be accepted, as it should.

Little_Miss_1565
09-19-2011, 12:49 PM
Isn't it incredibly pretentious to turn every fucking thread on this forum into a discussion of how everyone else on the forum is pretentious except you, Bighead? Jesus fuck.

yarock
09-19-2011, 01:06 PM
Hahahaha, Tijs!

Llamas
09-19-2011, 01:16 PM
That's a bunch of crap, the thread would've died soon anyway, just like any other thread where people ramble on about beer.

What exactly are you basing that on? (http://offspring.com/community/showthread.php?t=32349&highlight=underrated+brews)


And maybe the "white people" (I'm sorry I just love this term/that site) that post here shouldn't be so defensive about the idea that "beer experts" are often pretentious losers and there wouldn't be a discussion about that subtopic in the first place. It would just be accepted, as it should.

I love that site, too. But seriously, nobody cares about your stereotypes. I have no problem with people who adore beer. You're the only person who cares. Get over it.

On second thought, maybe this entire bbs is full of pretentious beer snobs who don't make prejudices about black people or the Amish. Why are you still posting here then? You clearly disagree with all of us. Why don't you go find a bunch of anti-intellectuals who hate beer lovers and enjoy stereotyping?

mrconeman
09-19-2011, 01:33 PM
Less about people with really appropriate names trying to make the entire world about themselves though, lets talk about beer and really annoy him.

I think I've mentioned it on this forum before, but I really dig Tsing Tao beer. I've found very very few places that sell it, and the only place I ever actually manage to remember to drink it is a Chinese restaurant here where you can order it with your dinner, so I always have 2 of those with a Chinese meal, but God damn it's so smooth and..awgh. I really must buy a case the next time I'm going to a party or something.

Llamas
09-19-2011, 01:47 PM
I actually had a Chinese beer a few months ago for the first time. It was very strange. I doubt it was Tsing Tao, but I didn't like it.

My gf recently bought store-brand beer. WTF. I didn't even know such a thing existed! She thinks all beer tastes the same, though, and the store-brand is only like 40 cents. I won't be drinking that garbage, thank you. I still can't believe it exists, though.

Is it okay to drink beer while sick with the flu? All this talk of beer is really making me want the Staropramen dark I've got in the fridge...

jacknife737
09-19-2011, 02:02 PM
Haven't had any Chinese beer yet, but i've a couple different kinds of Japanese beer before: Sapporo was one of them and i thought that to be fairly enjoyable.

Regarding American beer: i'm pretty into wheat ales/weissbeer: so really dig Blue Moon: it was sort of like a slightly better version of Rickard's White (A Canadian brand) that also makes a sort of "populist"* type of that beer. I also dig Sam Adams particularly that Octoberfest variety.

Lately i've been more into darker ales: so i've been drinking stuff like Waterloo Dark and Uppper Canada Dark Ale: though i doubt many on here have heard of those, let alone tried them.


*it's really not the right word to use, but i can't think of any other way of describing it: sort of mass-marketable i suppose?

Llamas
09-19-2011, 02:21 PM
I honestly haven't explored American beer too much, simply for the fact that all beer in the US is too goddamned expensive. I'll drink pretty much whatever (besides "light" beers) if it's handy; otherwise, I always go for hard liquor when I'm in the US.

The only real exceptions for American beer are Spotted Cow, a cloudy ale that I've never found outside Wisconsin, and Grain Belt Nordeast, an amber lager that I think is more widely available.

Jakebert
09-19-2011, 02:54 PM
I agree that Sam Adams is shittier than it's reputation, but they do have a few really good beers and do serve the function of getting "Bud Light drinkers" to diversify their tastes. And Blue Moon, while great, is owned and brewed by Coors, so it's not really a "classy" beer or whatever you want to call it.

Bighead, why is it so difficult for you to understand that people like the taste of beer? Because speaking as someone who genuinely loves the taste of beer I can confirm that many, many people drink beer because they like the taste of it.

IamSam
09-19-2011, 03:11 PM
I think the thing with Sam Adams is that it's mass produced enough to be a standby in case a bar doesn't have what you're looking for you can just say...'well then I'll have a Sam Adams.' At least for me that's how it works...


I'm also a big fan of Leinenkugel. (http://leinie.com/home.htm)

Omni
09-19-2011, 03:26 PM
I just picked up some Harp at the behest of the couple of people here who vouched for it. I was not disappointed, but the Blue Moon Honey Wheat (which I also got) still reigns king. I came this close to getting the Tsing Tao, but it was the most expensive six pack of beer I've ever seen.

calichix
09-19-2011, 03:43 PM
oh my god, there's nothing more embarrassing than a white person playing the white liberal shame game. SUBURB STARBUCKS ILLEGITIMATE PROBLEMS PRIUS NOVELTY DOG YOGA @ U!

Jakebert
09-19-2011, 04:07 PM
I'm also a big fan of Leinenkugel. (http://leinie.com/home.htm)

Leinenkugel is one of my main standbys. Great Lakes is served in every bar here since I live in Ohio, so that's nice too. Especially around Christmastime.

Llamas
09-19-2011, 04:19 PM
I hate Leinie's original. Just as bad as any light beer or mic golden or whatever. Leinie's Red is the best, though. Big fan of that. The Sunset Wheat is great when the mood strikes. Honeyweiss was extremely overrated where I'm from, so I never got into it. Berryweiss is too sweet and fruity. I am a fan of Leinie's Summer Shandy, though. Overall, I'd say I'm a fan of Leinenkugel, but their beers are kinda hit or miss. Red is super, though.

bighead384
09-19-2011, 04:25 PM
Sam Adams' perfect pint glass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2MQxEtTU28

I have fucking clue about this damn thing, but they had nationally televised commercials about it as if it were something that most people care about.

I like Sam Adams though. I'm intrigued by the different flavors they add to their beers. That's really the only thing that can convince me to try a lesser known beer: the extra flavors they add to it. I really don't give a shit about anything else.

mrconeman
09-19-2011, 04:29 PM
But are the "connoisseurs" focused on the alcohol? No, they are focused on the taste. The taste of a beverage that isn't even popular for it's taste and, relatively speaking, doesn't taste good.




I like Sam Adams though. I'm intrigued by the different flavors they add to their beers. That's really the only thing that can convince me to try a lesser known beer: the extra flavors they add to it. I really don't give a shit about anything else.

What...I...are you...what...I don't even...

Anyway, Sam Adams like I mentioned is the only passable American beer I have ever tasted, and even then it's way too gassy and still not *nice*, it's just better than the rest of them. I'm sure there are scores of better American beer, but I've never tried those.

Shout out to Llamas Staropramen mention yo, I tried that a little while ago on friends recommendation, I was impressed. Krombacher is pretty nice too.

Little_Miss_1565
09-19-2011, 04:31 PM
I think I've mentioned it on this forum before, but I really dig Tsing Tao beer. I've found very very few places that sell it, and the only place I ever actually manage to remember to drink it is a Chinese restaurant here where you can order it with your dinner, so I always have 2 of those with a Chinese meal, but God damn it's so smooth and..awgh. I really must buy a case the next time I'm going to a party or something.

I really love the shit out of Tsing Tao. It's like a pilsener, but not. It's basically the Chinese Budweiser but IDGAF. When you like something, you like something. And damn but does it go with some dumplings.

I find it in strange places. One of the things I miss about living in a Chinese neighborhood is being able to get my hands on a sixer of Tsing Tao at 1 am or whenever the notion struck me.

bighead384
09-19-2011, 04:36 PM
What...I...are you...what...I don't even..

The different flavors are interesting as far as beer goes, but it's still not a good tasting beverage, relatively speaking. Liking or disliking the different extra flavors they add to beer really don't have much to do with being a "beer expert" in my opinion. A lot of "Summer" beers have a hint of lemon, and I'm cool with that. Doesn't mean I'm going to go on some quest spending money to find the absolute best one.

mrconeman
09-19-2011, 04:42 PM
Sam Adams' perfect pint glass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2MQxEtTU28

I had to comment on this on youtube, but I'll put it here too.

Doesn't pouring only half into the glasses make this review completely null, void, and stupid? How is the top half of the Sam Adams glass supposed to have the desired effect, if there's nothing in it? Not that I believe it would have any affect anyway, but the review is badly done.


I really love the shit out of Tsing Tao. It's like a pilsener, but not. It's basically the Chinese Budweiser but IDGAF. When you like something, you like something. And damn but does it go with some dumplings.

Yeah, I'm sure it's a pretty common un-sophisticated kind of affair, but like you say, God damn, does it ever go with some Chinese chicken.


I find it in strange places. One of the things I miss about living in a Chinese neighborhood is being able to get my hands on a sixer of Tsing Tao at 1 am or whenever the notion struck me.
Where is this magical paradise city? The notion has struck.

WebDudette
09-19-2011, 04:44 PM
Last night I gave a family friend a couple beers while he helped us shampoo our carpets, not too long after I was talking shit about Sam Adams here, he brought me a couple bottles of Oktoberfest. So I'll get to try another one of their seasonal beers.

I think wine was mentioned earlier. I don't know a whole lot about it and can only name one brand*, but I do generally like it, especially white wine. I get to try uhh... leftovers sometimes and I guess we have some really high quality stuff. My best friends father is the head chef and partial owner and is really into wine. Whenever I go to their house for birthdays or holidays there is always a bunch of really nice liquor and wine. The last time I was there I had some 40 year old port wine and all I could really taste is that metallic blood flavor, I still enjoyed it though. I feel like an ass when I drink wine like that. I have no idea why it is good and I'm sure some people would kill to taste some of the things I have. Some day though, I'd like to have a better idea of what I'm doing, because I do generally enjoy it.

*Kung Fu Girl, it's pretty cheap and taste like green apple white wine.

mrconeman
09-19-2011, 04:50 PM
I've only ever really drank rosé wine because it's about the only one I can stomach, some of it has been genuinely really nice though, but of all the alcoholic drinks, I think wine leaves me in the worst state the next day, it is a really fantastic drunk though, it's almost worth the heartburn. It's like you drink a bottle and think it hasn't affected you, until someone opens a window or you stand up. Then you want to order a taxi to the furthest kebab shop and invite strangers into your personal space.

Red wine I have never been able to drink more than a sip of because it's vile. I'm sure there's a red wine out there I would enjoy, but I really haven't found it. White wine is standable, but unpleasant so I've avoided it.

WebDudette
09-19-2011, 04:55 PM
Hahaha, I don't think I've ever been more than a little tipsy on wine, but now I've got to try getting drunk.

Static_Martyr
09-19-2011, 05:50 PM
A little late to the party, I know, but I just found this topic.

On that note: Yay, I got mentioned!

Oh and ATHEISM LOL :cool:

Paint_It_Black
09-19-2011, 07:06 PM
Happens a lot when bighead joins the conversation.

If only somebody hadn't ruined the unspoken let's-just-ignore-him pact...

Seriously people. Bighead doesn't spoil threads. Arguing with him spoils threads.

I got to say though I love how he's trying to sneak back into this conversation.


Hahaha, I don't think I've ever been more than a little tipsy on wine, but now I've got to try getting drunk.

This reminds me of the time I got completely wasted on red wine and missed half of Christmas Day. And it was totally my mum's fault. We had a bottle of red wine that someone must have given us and so we opened it up with our Christmas lunch. Nobody liked it but we didn't want to "waste" it and so my mum bribed me to drink the whole damn thing by offering me extra roast potatoes in exchange. I was powerless, damn it. That shit was nasty. Like drinking vinegar. My mum apparently thought I would like it because I like vinegar. Well yeah, maybe the wine would have been ok sprinkled over some fish and chips, but I don't want to drink a bottle of the stuff. So that really put me off red wine for years. I love white wine, particularly sparkling (guess I just love gassy beverages) and I can enjoy one glass of red occasionally now.

I realized I sort of like things that are either unique or just really different to what I am used to, even if I don't actually like the taste. Just the fact that it's different provides enjoyment. Gives the taste buds a workout. So even though I don't like red wine, for example, if someone offered me a glass right now I'd take it and enjoy it even if it tasted nasty. Does anybody relate to this? It's the same reason I ended up loving brussel sprouts. I would eat them occasionally even though I didn't like them just because they taste quite unique. Then finally realized one day I had started to like the taste somewhere along the line.

WebDudette
09-19-2011, 10:54 PM
No that's way different. How is Blue Moon "good or well done" if it doesn't taste good? I mean, would you say something like "Five Guys isn't my thing, but I respect the care they take to focus on the quality of their beef"? No, you'd just say you don't like it. Do you have to talk like an asshole just because you're talking about something that makes you "sophisticated"?

Sure I would. Five Guys is decent for the price, it's certainly better than McDonalds, Burger King, and Carls Jr., but I'd rather have Deluxe Burger.

WebDudette
09-19-2011, 11:04 PM
I realized I sort of like things that are either unique or just really different to what I am used to, even if I don't actually like the taste. Just the fact that it's different provides enjoyment. Gives the taste buds a workout. So even though I don't like red wine, for example, if someone offered me a glass right now I'd take it and enjoy it even if it tasted nasty. Does anybody relate to this? It's the same reason I ended up loving brussel sprouts. I would eat them occasionally even though I didn't like them just because they taste quite unique. Then finally realized one day I had started to like the taste somewhere along the line.

Man, we could be the same person. I would do anything for roast potatoes or any food bribe in general.

I know exactly what you are talking about. When I drink tea, I always want the funkiest, weirdest, strongest green tea I can get. I'm not a huge fan of the taste and I love jasmine, chrysanthemum, and basic stuff like that, but weird ass green teas are always a welcome change. I think that's what I like most about wine right now in general, because I don't know a lot more about it. So I just like that it has such a distinct and strange taste, also I love the warming, burning sensation.

The only really unbearable wine of had is like bagged wine, I've even had some pretty good really cheap wine. The apple tasting one I mentioned earlier isn't exactly cheap ($15 a bottle), but it's certainly not expensive. It's definitely one of my favorites, but it taste just like green apple, it doesn't have the subtleties and complexities I've noticed in expensive wines, I think that's why people dig them so much. They like trying to work through the different flavors and decipher the wines. I mean, it actually sounds like an awesome way to get drunk, but I don't have the time, money, or age to do it.

Oh, another thing is cigars. I hate cigarettes, I can't stand smoke, and only hookah shisha actually taste good to me. I still really enjoy smoking cigars and pipes every so often. It's another one of those things where you have a bunch of different complex flavors.

primoled
09-20-2011, 03:05 AM
im harlequin, who likes fruity beer:p

_Lost_
09-20-2011, 04:09 AM
The bar I work at doesn't have bud on tap. we sell shit tons of bud lite bottles on busy nights.


I've gotten to where I really enjoy a good beer, but rarely have one cause they are so filling. I'm mainly a clear or light liquor girl, though I can't stand most syrupy sweet mixed drinks.

Al Coholic
09-20-2011, 05:35 PM
im harlequin, who likes fruity beer:p

I know the prophecy has already been told but 1565 for the love of god let it live.

WebDudette
09-22-2011, 07:56 PM
I'd no one likes the taste of beer, why are there so many non-alcoholic beers?

Omni
09-22-2011, 08:34 PM
I'd no one likes the taste of beer, why are there so many non-alcoholic beers?


The only one I know of is O'Doul's. I've always wondered, do you have to be 21 (in the States, or whatever the drinking age of your country is) to purchase O'Doul's, even though it's non-alcoholic?

Llamas
09-22-2011, 08:52 PM
I always figured that non-alcoholic beer exists for two types of people: 1) former alcoholics that are trying to recover, and 2) current alcoholics who want to drink at times they're not allowed to, like on their lunch break or in driving situations. I've tried several N-A beers, and the American ones are all horrid - worse than any of the mainstream commercial beers. I did however try the most popular N-A beer in Czech, Birrell, and it's actually quite good. It's not truly alcohol-free, though... it has like 0.2% alcohol. Not sure if that makes a difference or not.

Al Coholic
09-23-2011, 01:29 PM
A small market also likes the taste of a beer, but doesn't care for the effects. Like decaf coffee drinkers, only even less popular.

They also exist in strip clubs that don't serve alcohol.

N.A.'s are pointless to me, but I had a becks N.A. once by mistake and it wasn't bad. They're all like .5% alcohol. you must be 21, and it is likely illegal to drive with.

Interestingly enough, there are a lot of carbonated lemonade products that end up being a small percentage, .5 or less alcoholic. It's something to do with the brewing process.

Even more interesting, I believe 7up is in this category but does not have to label itself as so.

sKratch
09-23-2011, 05:43 PM
I wish you were dead.
I wish I didn't end up in Queens way earlier than expected the other week :[


I think for most craft beer drinkers it's all about the image. "look at me, I'm drinking a Scraggly Dogg Dog Days Of Summer Brew. You've never heard of any of the bands I listen to" I wonder if they know how ridiculous they look?
You are a fucking idiot.

Just don't drink Budweiser then. Or Miller, or any popular American beer.
There is that European Budweiser from the Budwar region of Czechoslovakia, I think. Has nothing to do with US Bud though.

To me, there's really no reason why this is a relatively POPULAR interest. Seriously, taking the time and money to become an expert of a drink that isn't even popular for it's taste in the first place? Why would that appeal to so many people unless they're trying to be impressive.

In all honesty, being an expert on beer sets off my "this guy might be a tool" warning system. But it really depends on how they act about it.
You could basically make that argument about absolutely anything. In any case, a decent beer rarely costs significantly more than a complete garbage beer at a bar. Also, sorry, I don't just drink alcohol to get intoxicated. It happens to be a pleasant side effect of drinking delicious beer.

He a little mad.

I actually wish a lot of the US craft/microbrews found there way to soviet cannuckastan, but alas it's usually just the major US brands: even stuff like blue moon and sam adams can be a bit difficult to come by.
As has been pointed out, Blue Moon is owned by Miller Coors.


I would like to say it's terrible. It's not. If it was steel reserve, ok. It's an unimpressive beer to me, but I bet in a blind taste test I would rank it higher.

The reason bud and bud light get a backlash are because of bud light drinkers. Bud Light drinkers are the worst kind of beer drinkers. Atleast Steel Reserve bums have character. Atleast PBR pounding hipsters have tried something else. Atleast craft beer snobs* appreciate what they're drinking.

No, the majority of Bud Light drinkers drink beer to get drunk. They want something cheap, and they basically took whatever was handed to them. Whatever they were told to drink. Whatever everyone else was already drinking (so not punmk rock). They go to the grocery, and in front of 85 kinds of beer, chose the one with the most watery flavor everytime. And they actually claim to enjoy 'beer'. Beer, a universal word that encompasses so much. It would be as though everytime I went to get ice cream, at home, out, wherever, I got vanilla. Vanilla, vanilla, vanilla. And after years of that shit I said "I love ice cream." Fuck you, no I don't. I don't know shit about ice cream. You don't know shit about beer, you don't like 'beer', you like Bud Light.

And what kills you is these people don't even try. They don't even have ambition. Have them at your house. Go to the store and get a couple of those custom six packs. Help them, offer them. "I have this really good irish red, a black ale that's pretty awesome, there's a couple belgian whites and yada yada yada, and some bud light." They'll pick the Bud light. Hell, these people think Heineken is like, this really good expensive beer. It's not, it's literally the import version of Bud Light.

And Bud drinkers? As someone who worked bars for a while, I can tell you they're often just Bud Light drinkers being cheap asses and getting it because it's .8% stronger.
My problem with Bud / Miller Coors is their effect on small brewing companies. They are essentially the Walmart of beers. It's not a great analogy but they make it extremely difficult for small-time brewers to get on the shelf. Even if there was ever a product from any of these guys that I didn't hate taste-wise, I would still never give them any of my money. Watch Beer Wars if you ever get a chance.

good beer doesn't make you feel as shitty the next day either. not like that High Times shit from Trader Joe's- you can drink ONE beer and have a hangover the next day.

why do people say "you don't drink beer for the taste"? is there a better taste in the world than when you've been at the beach or in the hot sun all day then you go get a shrimp burrito and a beer? (no)

Re: First part: Yes. Unfiltered beer, in particular, still has the B vitamin complexes from beer yeast. This literally helps you process nutrients and reduces the degree to which you get hung over.

Re: Second part: Let's get married.

bighead384
09-23-2011, 08:16 PM
So I gave it a chance.

I decided to buy a six pack of Troegs Amber Ale. I'm writing this as I drink my first beer. It was rated 100 on ratebeer.com, which was conveniently indicated under the price tags of most of the craft beers at my liquor store. It's pretty good, but (deletes more elaborate explanation) it's just doesn't jump out at me as something that sounds like a great idea to spend extra money to get in to. Well, mainly because my taste-buds don't detect an overwhelming difference.

WebDudette
09-23-2011, 08:40 PM
Your sense of taste just isn't as sophisticated as the rest of us. Don't worry, it will improve over time.

Seriously though, just like everything else in the world, not everyone is going to enjoy it. That doesn't mean the ones who do are lying to seem cool.

bighead384
09-23-2011, 09:12 PM
Your sense of taste just isn't as sophisticated as the rest of us. Don't worry, it will improve over time.

Seriously though, just like everything else in the world, not everyone is going to enjoy it. That doesn't mean the ones who do are lying to seem cool.

Well, I'm not going to go out of my way and spend more money to sophisticate my taste buds. And I don't think everyone is lying, but there's an element of bullshit involved.

Isn't there an element of bullshit involved whenever there's a societal incentive to appear cool/sophisticated/etc? Why is this different?

Llamas
09-23-2011, 09:51 PM
There is that European Budweiser from the Budwar region of Czechoslovakia, I think. Has nothing to do with US Bud though.

Budvar is brewed in České Budějovice ("Czech Budweis"), and definitely has nothing to do with American Bud. Just last night, after asking what beers this pub had and hearing "Budweiser", I asked American or Czech. Knowing I'm American, they said, "Sorry, it's the Czech one..." I said, "Thank god. I'll have a Budweiser then." It's a quality brew, for sure.


Isn't there an element of bullshit involved whenever there's a societal incentive to appear cool/sophisticated/etc? Why is this different?

Of course this is true. But the fact that SOME people only pretend to enjoy something just to seem sophisticated isn't going to stop the rest of us from actually enjoying it. I feel the same way about going to the opera. I love the shit out of the opera, despite the fact that many people there don't care at all and are only there to be seen and feel like they're a part of high culture. So what? Doesn't detract from my enjoyment.

WebDudette
09-23-2011, 10:29 PM
Well, I'm not going to go out of my way and spend more money to sophisticate my taste buds. And I don't think everyone is lying, but there's an element of bullshit involved.

Isn't there an element of bullshit involved whenever there's a societal incentive to appear cool/sophisticated/etc? Why is this different?

I was definitely kidding about the sophistication thing. I mean it's true that you'd get more skilled at tasting the difference, but there is no guarantee that you'd enjoy it more.

Sure, but isn't there with everything? Music, books, television, movies, sports, food, pretty much everything else ever. I can't count how many times I've talked to people about video games and they've blatantly lied about playing a game because it's one of those staples that makes you cool, usually it's Ocarina of Time.

I'll be honest, the secondary reason I go to plays is because I think it's fucking cool to go see live theatre.

Retard
09-24-2011, 12:12 AM
I'm like a Kid in a candy store when i walk into liquor stores. It can sometimes take me like ten minutes to find a beer I wanna get. Do I go with something I've already had and like? Do i get something new? Do I go cheap?(I like pabst sue me ok?) Has anyone tried the new New Castle Werewolf? I had one at my friend's house the other day, I liked it, but i think it needed to stay in the fridge a little longer.
The label is awesome!
http://aleheads.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/newcastle-werewolf.jpeg
It kinda tasted like a normal newcastle going into your mouth but once you swallow it you get kind of a berry taste to it. I liked it.

wheelchairman
09-24-2011, 04:56 AM
Like coffee and cigarettes, beer is an acquired taste (as is wine). They're also all addictive. If you don't enjoy these things you haven't been trying hard enough.

Also people who insist on telling others that they don't like the taste of aforementioned things are about as charming as vegans at a dinner party.

Omni
09-24-2011, 06:00 AM
… usually it's Ocarina of Time.


Really? That's kind of strange. Link to the Past was Ocarina of Time's superior in nearly every applicable field, I think. I never even played Majora's Mask or whatever it was called. Did you ever play any of the ActRaisers?


For the sake of staying on topic, I think I may go get some more beer today. Is Tsing Tao really worth the price? It's like four dollars more expensive than my precious Blue Moon, and I really don't want buyer's remorse.

calichix
09-24-2011, 08:14 AM
@stephan ahhhhhhhhhhh *mind blown* so there's vitamin b in unfiltered beer! I thought folate was the only b vitamin that could withstand the brewing process. that totally makes sense, because you can drink beer that's been home brewed until you're black out drunk and not have a hangover. and you can take nutritional yeast or B6 to cure a hangover. it's all coming together. <3

PSA: I read in cosmo that it's awesome for women to drink beer because 1 good quality ale has 10% of your RDI of folate.

Retard
09-24-2011, 12:36 PM
I'm kind of in the middle with Blue Moon.... I like it on tap a whooole lot more than in the bottle. Bottle aint horrible, just not something I'm gonna buy again. If i was offered one I'd enjoy it.

Al Coholic
09-24-2011, 02:20 PM
Shock top > Blue moon, especially on draft.

Blue moon in a can aint half bad.

Omni
09-24-2011, 03:32 PM
Tap is the best, but I actually prefer canned to bottled. I haven't found Shock-Top on tap, yet. And I've heard of Blue Moon in cans but I have yet to see them.


I think Blue Moon edges out Shock-Top, especially the Honey Wheat summer Blue Moon.

Free?
09-24-2011, 03:37 PM
It's always feels kinda weird thaaat posters From America talk about stuff such asd beer kinds that aren't reperestented here in Europe like at all. same goes for american foot ball threads and stuff, at these momentds I really feel that people are not thesame anywhere, and pleaces are not thesame.



IOT IS AWESOME TO GET DRUGNK FROM A SMALL AMOU?TN OF ALCOHOL!

personal_loans_1
09-24-2011, 03:45 PM
'Diversity is our strength' and 999 rulez.

In all cold and semicold days my favourite beer is mulled beer, with spicy condiments but without egg, I don't know that recipe. The same with wine, but wine goes with orange.

Beer has silicon, btw.
Werewolf label is cool.

Llamas
09-24-2011, 10:46 PM
I drank a lotta vodka tonight. vodkda >>>> beer when I wann get drunk. yo

Retard
09-24-2011, 11:28 PM
Had no clue Blue Moon came in cans...... I won't believe it til i see it. I gotta go ta Curtis

Omni
09-25-2011, 12:37 AM
I think drinking beer from a can is seen as uncouth amongst beer drinkers. I never really see cans apart from the cheap/redneck American beer.

WebDudette
09-25-2011, 01:36 AM
I had a pretty good Irish beer that came in a can.

wheelchairman
09-25-2011, 05:56 AM
I prefer beer in a can. I don't have a car so a case of bottled beer would be quite heavy.

Many beers here come in cans. Heineken, tuborg, guinness, budjovice.

The advantage of bottles is that they stay colder, longer.

mrconeman
09-25-2011, 07:13 AM
I definitely prefer the taste of beer from a bottle, it's...more refreshing?
However financially, the deals for cases of tins rather than cases of bottles, the tins always seem to work out cheaper per beer here. So I usually end up buying cans.

I only really drink bottles when I know I'm not getting drunk or anything and it's just for enjoying/relaxing with, and the beer is purely for the taste.

calichix
09-25-2011, 11:14 AM
a bottle is totally more refreshing. in the states they never give you a pint glass at bars- it's outrageous. I hate when luke warm beer lingers in the rim. yeww

Retard
09-25-2011, 11:37 AM
a bottle is totally more refreshing. in the states they never give you a pint glass at bars- it's outrageous. I hate when luke warm beer lingers in the rim. yeww

Wait you never get pint glass at a bar? What part of the US are you in? I've always gotten it in a glass.

calichix
09-25-2011, 04:09 PM
....texas :(

Little_Miss_1565
09-26-2011, 12:12 PM
Ahh, Texas, where after 8 PM they stop serving beer in long neck bottles, because long necks become weapons after that point in the evening. As if by magic. (or at least, this was the case the last time I was in TX, which was a few years ago)

personal_loans_1
09-26-2011, 01:09 PM
Pint glass is maybe less provocative,lol, but it's still glass. Cause you mean pint glass from glass not from plastic?
However, few years ago I'd accidentally get hit by a glass thrown from several metres by totally drunken bro type of guy. It was really nice feeling when I realized how close from my head it was. I've even found splinters in my hair. :)

calichix
09-26-2011, 01:21 PM
girl, this state is a whole other universe.

sKratch
09-26-2011, 05:15 PM
I think drinking beer from a can is seen as uncouth amongst beer drinkers. I never really see cans apart from the cheap/redneck American beer.
A handful of craft breweries is starting to put their beer into cans. It's cheaper for them and in fact has some benefits for the beer. The starkest example is the complete shielding from light. I'm on the fence about beer tasting better out of a can or a bottle, though.

a bottle is totally more refreshing. in the states they never give you a pint glass at bars- it's outrageous. I hate when luke warm beer lingers in the rim. yeww
Since when are you in Texas? You have to re-register with a new name now. Despite various absurd alcohol laws in PA (I miss New York) there's still pint glasses everywhere.

Omni
09-26-2011, 05:53 PM
I have only been to Texas outside of the Panhandle area one time, but the Panhandle really is like a completely different world. It looks like something out of Mad Max.

calichix
09-26-2011, 07:35 PM
I moved to austin 2 months ago. it's wonderful despite all the newly liberal rednecks declaring they're "actually okay with gays".

bighead384
09-26-2011, 07:53 PM
I somewhat enjoyed the beer I mentioned in my previous post, and I had a little extra money, so I thought maybe I'd delve a little deeper into this world...

So anyway, I just paid 10 bucks for a 4 pack of this beer that was scored 100 by ratebeer.com and features quotes of magazines calling it "possibly the best IPA" in America. It's called Dogfish Head 60 Minute Imperial Ale. How anyone could consider this a notable experience in taste is beyond me.

The "gimmick" for this beer is some shit about special hops and barely. It's still lame and extremely expensive. This re-einforces my previously stated belief that the only thing worthwhile with craft beers is the non-beer related flavors added to the beer.

WebDudette
09-26-2011, 08:04 PM
Had some Sierra Nevada Torpedo Extra IPA last night. I don't remember what I think of regular Sierra Nevada, but this was pretty awesome.

Jakebert
09-26-2011, 08:56 PM
Dogfish Head 60 Minute is one of my favorite beers. It's incredibly flavorful, balanced, and bitter in all the best ways. It has that perfect floral hint to the taste too that makes it a really good spring beer.

Again bighead, just because you don't like the taste of beer doesn't mean that others don't. People have different tastes. For example, I hate the taste of coconut and it makes me gag. My girlfriend loves it. Maybe beer works the same way.

Al Coholic
09-26-2011, 11:33 PM
You should nickname your junk coconut shrimp.

T-6005
09-26-2011, 11:46 PM
So I really like beer. I mostly drink either beer or red wine these days if I'm drinking, and I don't get why there would be any backlash against it.

It's a carefully culturally situated backlash, too, as if AMERICANS liking beer is the worst possible offense imaginable. Like when I feel the need for a good baguette and people look at me oddly. If I explain that I'm French, they chalk it up to that. If I don't, they persist in feeling that I'm the odd one out, and yet all I want is a piece of bread that doesn't taste like crap.

It's not even about 'craft' beers (though you'd think people involved in the processing of each batch just might be more likely to put out something of higher quality). I'll drink popular beers too. It's one of those things. I like a couple of popular beers enough to go back to them once in a while - Mill Street Organic and Keith's IPA are the first ones to come to mind, and then I'll usually have a few good old standby beers like Fuller's London Porter, Murphy's Irish Stout, or, if I can't find those, a semi-decent one like Waterloo Dark. Caffrey's you can find at quite a few bars, and Harp Lager is definitely coming back to more than once. I'll even splurge on beers that don't taste like flat tap water and get Sapporo, Tiger Beer or Czechvar (which is what the aforementioned Budweiser Budvar is called over here).

These aren't unknown beers - they're all fairly popular, enough that (aside from Fuller's London Porter) even in Ontario you can find them in most LCBOs. But it's the same concept as the bread argument. If you know you like bread, why would you limit yourself to Wonderbread when you can spend a dollar more and have something that you're actually going to deeply enjoy?

It might seem odd to you that people choose good beer from crafters or at least more selective popular brewers, and pay that dollar extra, but for those people it's a question of "why save a dollar if I'm just going to pass up the entire satisfaction this can give me?"

Life's too short to drink crap. If you don't like beer, try another alcohol. I'm sure there's something you're going to like. Wine, English Gin, Dutch Gin, Whiskey and all its associated categories, Brandy or Cognac, Sherry, Vodka, Cider, cocktails and the ridiculous variety that comes with the term, martinis and their massive subcategories, Ouzo, Sake, Kilju, Rum, Palinka, Tequila, Amaretto, Drambuie, Pastis...

I mean, if you can't find a single alcohol you actually like the taste of and you still drink, you've got a different problem.

EDIT - Man, it took me a long time to reply to this thread. I started at least 4 replies and then just had other stuff to do.

Omni
09-27-2011, 12:05 AM
I moved to austin 2 months ago. it's wonderful despite all the newly liberal rednecks declaring they're "actually okay with gays".


I went to Austin for ACL in 2009, and I really really liked it. I wouldn't mind living there myself, actually.

Dwayne Mosley
09-27-2011, 11:37 AM
No love for any beer that has "Light" or "Lite" in it's name, especially given how weak American beers already are.

Llamas
09-27-2011, 11:55 AM
I have a good friend living in Austin, and she says it's like night and day from the rest of Texas... to a point where it's almost too much. Her stories about extreme hipsters and over-the-top liberalism are pretty hilarious. I think she preferred DC and maybe St Louis over Austin. But she still agrees it's way better than the rest of the state.

calichix
09-27-2011, 01:50 PM
well it's like the liberal city of refuge for southerners and people from like, west texas who aren't republicans, so they go a little ape shit. which I can understand, it must be exciting to come to a city like austin when you grew up with the kinda family that calls the president "Nigbama". but it's like, any and every political conversation turns into a history lesson in a class called There Are People Who Aren't White Americans In This World.

Retard
09-27-2011, 08:00 PM
I've had Dogfish Head 60 Minute once and daaamn was it strong. Liked it though.

Llamas
09-27-2011, 08:08 PM
T-6005 would write the first third of a short story involving beer, to be continued


So I really like beer. I mostly drink either beer or red wine these days if I'm drinking, and I don't get why there would be any backlash against it.

It's a carefully culturally situated backlash, too, as if AMERICANS liking beer is the worst possible offense imaginable. Like when I feel the need for a good baguette and people look at me oddly. If I explain that I'm French, they chalk it up to that. If I don't, they persist in feeling that I'm the odd one out, and yet all I want is a piece of bread that doesn't taste like crap.

It's not even about 'craft' beers (though you'd think people involved in the processing of each batch just might be more likely to put out something of higher quality. I'll drink popular beers too. It's one of those things. I like a couple of popular beers enough to go back to them once in a while - Mill Street Organic and Keith's IPA are the first ones to come to mind, and then I'll usually have a few good old standby beers like Fuller's London Porter, Murphy's Irish Stout, or, if I can't find those, a semi-decent one like Waterloo Dark. Caffrey's you can find at quite a few bars, and Harp Lager is definitely coming back to more than once. I'll even splurge on beers that don't taste like flat tap water and get Sapporo, Tiger Beer or Czechvar (which is what the aforementioned Budweiser Budvar is called over here).

These aren't unknown beers - they're all fairly popular, enough that (aside from Fuller's London Porter) even in Ontario you can find them in most LCBOs. But it's the same concept as the bread argument. If you know you like bread, why would you limit yourself to Wonderbread when you can spend a dollar more and have something that you're actually going to deeply enjoy?

It might seem odd to you that people choose good beer from crafters or at least more selective popular brewers, and pay that dollar extra, but for those people it's a question of "why save a dollar if I'm just going to pass up the entire satisfaction this can give me?"

Life's too short to drink crap. If you don't like beer, try another alcohol. I'm sure there's something you're going to like. Wine, English Gin, Dutch Gin, Whiskey and all its associated categories, Brandy or Cognac, Sherry, Vodka, Cider, cocktails and the ridiculous variety that comes with the term, martinis and their massive subcategories, Ouzo, Sake, Kilju, Rum, Palinka, Tequila, Amaretto, Drambuie, Pastis...

I mean, if you can't find a single alcohol you actually like the taste of and you still drink, you've got a different problem.

EDIT - Man, it took me a long time to reply to this thread. I started at least 4 replies and then just had other stuff to do.

I see what you did there.


well it's like the liberal city of refuge for southerners and people from like, west texas who aren't republicans, so they go a little ape shit. which I can understand, it must be exciting to come to a city like austin when you grew up with the kinda family that calls the president "Nigbama". but it's like, any and every political conversation turns into a history lesson in a class called There Are People Who Aren't White Americans In This World.

Yeah, I totally get what you mean. I'm sure it's just overwhelming for some people who move there from normal places, aka not the South.

Al Coholic
09-27-2011, 08:34 PM
I see what you did there.

Isn't it awesome that dweaune mosley made like a 'check me out im super badass if ight thread?

I'm like, the oracle.

Llamas
09-27-2011, 08:43 PM
Yeah but he denounced light beers. Whoops.

I also just noticed Tijs's edit to the original post. hahaha.

Jakebert
09-27-2011, 08:46 PM
I've had Dogfish Head 60 Minute once and daaamn was it strong. Liked it though.

I loooove strong/bitter/hoppy beers.

T-6005
09-27-2011, 08:53 PM
Thanks for quoting me, llamas. There was an END PARENTHESIS missing. It was throwing the whole thing out of whack.

Llamas
09-27-2011, 09:03 PM
Thanks for quoting me, llamas. There was an END PARENTHESIS missing. It was throwing the whole thing out of whack.

Haha, I actually did notice that when I read it... forgot about it by the time I got to the end of the post, though ;)

bighead384
09-27-2011, 09:33 PM
Sam Adams' owner once described the company as being big enough that they can access special ingredients from all around the world, but small enough that their brewing process is able to be closely monitored and customized. I think that's a good point.

Sam Adams is fucking great to be honest. What is everyone's problem with it? I've only had a few flavors that I don't like. Have you researched something about their ingredients that you don't like or something?

Add interesting shit and don't fuck it up. That's about as far into special beer that I'm going, and even then it's just occasionally.

WebDudette
09-27-2011, 09:50 PM
Everyones problem? I thought I was the only person to mention Sam Adams negatively. I think it's typically a little to bland for me. I've liked some of their beers, others not so much. Mostly, I just feel like I can get a better beer for around the same price.

I think I mentioned the Sam Adams Oktoberfest I had a couple days ago, it was good but still lackluster. I wonder if their beers are significantly better on tap.

coke_a_holic
09-27-2011, 09:55 PM
I think she preferred DC and maybe St Louis over Austin. But she still agrees it's way better than the rest of the state.

I can't believe that. I won't speak for St. Louis, but living in and around DC is hellish and awful.

bighead384
09-27-2011, 09:58 PM
Everyones problem? I thought I was the only person to mention Sam Adams negatively.

Yeah right. "Hating Sam Adams" ought to be on "Stuff White People Like".


I've had Dogfish Head 60 Minute once and daaamn was it strong. Liked it though.
I'm drinking it right now, again. I didn't even finish the 4 pack I mentioned last night, though I intended to. It's just plain not good.

WebDudette
09-27-2011, 10:02 PM
I thought you were specifying this thread. Anyway, I only know one person who has mentioned not liking Samuel Adams.

T-6005
09-27-2011, 10:30 PM
I like Sam Adams, but I've only had two. To be honest, both of them were a little strongly carbonated, but not bad.

Little_Miss_1565
09-28-2011, 10:53 AM
Yeah right. "Hating Sam Adams" ought to be on "Stuff White People Like".

Why are you so obsessed with SWPL?

Boston is 99% white. I never drank so much Sam Adams as I did while I was living there, and I miss having easy access to all the seasonal varieties on tap.

I find it interesting that I hate IPAs, but feel like anyone else is 100% allowed to love them, even though I hate them with a fiery burning passion. I also find it interesting that people take their hatred of things people like so personally and create the enormous constructs of hatred and liberal conspiracy out of them.

bighead384
09-28-2011, 12:53 PM
Why are you so obsessed with SWPL?


Because it's the playbook of the 1337, lol. And since so many people here are like that, bringing it up kind of takes away the whole "you're the only one that thinks that, bighead" card.

Llamas
09-28-2011, 03:36 PM
Because it's the playbook of the 1337, lol. And since so many people here are like that, bringing it up kind of takes away the whole "you're the only one that thinks that, bighead" card.

Are you not white? Do you pride yourself in not being white or something? I really don't get it.

sKratch
09-28-2011, 04:17 PM
I also find it interesting that people take their hatred of things people like so personally and create the enormous constructs of hatred and liberal conspiracy out of them.

Dey turk urr beerrrsssss!

calichix
09-28-2011, 06:10 PM
that is super weird. because in hating things people like because you think they're being snooty, you're being snooty- like deciding you hate a band the day you hear them on the radio. it's a snake biting its own tail.

mrconeman
09-28-2011, 06:50 PM
Hey look the thread is about bighead again. Let's stop over analysing his personality defects, and just call a plank a plank - He's an idiot, let's move on.


Anyone else have that one annoying friend who still thinks he's like 16 and drinking beer is like this rebellious amazing thing, and he'll keep count of everyone's drink ratio and tell them to drink more if they're falling behind the general average? Fuck those people.

So what about the absolute bottom of the barrel kind of beers - what beers are absolutely fucking awful, and are to be avoided? What beers is sobriety a better option than? I'll put one forward - Tennents. Jesus Christ that is some seriously bad beer.

Llamas
09-28-2011, 06:55 PM
Anyone else have that one annoying friend who still thinks he's like 16 and drinking beer is like this rebellious amazing thing, and he'll keep count of everyone's drink ratio and tell them to drink more if they're falling behind the general average? Fuck those people.

Reminds me of the idiots who still think it's cool to brag about how much you can/do drink. "I can drink 5 beers without feeling a thing" isn't really something people are impressed by. That actually kinda sucks. A lot. I hate meeting people who brag about how much they drink. I mean, drinking has its moments and can be a blast, but get some other hobbies.

mrconeman
09-28-2011, 07:03 PM
Reminds me of the idiots who still think it's cool to brag about how much you can/do drink. "I can drink 5 beers without feeling a thing" isn't really something people are impressed by. That actually kinda sucks. A lot. I hate meeting people who brag about how much they drink. I mean, drinking has its moments and can be a blast, but get some other hobbies.

The guy I'm referring to is exactly this type of person. It's fresh in my head because we were out for a mutual friend's birthday a week or two ago, I arrived later (a good 40 minutes later) than everyone else, and he badgered me no less than four times throughout the night to catch up on everyone else's drink count. I think by the fourth time I was drunk enough to just be like "Who gives a fuck? Seriously." Not that I care, but it's hypocritical of him as he's actually legendary among our group of friends for leaving every party or going home from every bar early. He's actually a really nice guy, and talented artist too, so he has hobbies, but it's like, Jesus, grow up.

Llamas
09-28-2011, 07:27 PM
The guy I'm referring to is exactly this type of person. It's fresh in my head because we were out for a mutual friend's birthday a week or two ago, I arrived later (a good 40 minutes later) than everyone else, and he badgered me no less than four times throughout the night to catch up on everyone else's drink count. I think by the fourth time I was drunk enough to just be like "Who gives a fuck? Seriously." Not that I care, but it's hypocritical of him as he's actually legendary among our group of friends for leaving every party or going home from every bar early. He's actually a really nice guy, and talented artist too, so he has hobbies, but it's like, Jesus, grow up.

Yeah I know what you mean. I used to know a ton of people like this in college, which is okay when I was 18 and I'd show up for a party late and they'd have a drink made for me, like half a liter of rum and a tiny bit of coke, and a timer set for 5 minutes for me to catch up. There's no way I'd ever consider that today. Not even enjoyable.

Also when people berate others for not finishing a beer or whatever. Like this summer when I met some guys who were drinking vile, bottom shelf, plastic bottle vodka and chasing it with artificially flavored carbonated water... and kept calling me a pussy for turning it down. And telling them I don't feel like puking all night was met with, "noooooo, I don't puke when I drink it!!" So many people I'd rather drink with.

edit: the "other hobbies" remark was more or less sarcastic. Most of these people have other hobbies... they just often act like drinking is the coolest, most awesome thing a person can do in life. Even though most don't really believe it's true.

Retard
09-28-2011, 09:38 PM
If you put every type of different beer in front of me I probably wouldn't be able to tell which ones were which. I think stout is the darkest one right? I wouldn't be able to tell and IPA and a pale ale apart. It's not like I'm complaining.... they're all awesome.

I have a friend who will buy a biig bottle of hard liquor, usually something like Johnny Walker, or some kinda other whiskey. But he's one of those guys that will fucking shove the bottle in your hand and sit there and go DRINK!!!! all the time. We all call it the liquor rape. We usually all drink though.

Omni
09-28-2011, 11:34 PM
So what about the absolute bottom of the barrel kind of beers - what beers are absolutely fucking awful, and are to be avoided? What beers is sobriety a better option than? I'll put one forward - Tennents. Jesus Christ that is some seriously bad beer.


Steel Reserve, Rolling Rock, and even though I've never had it, I suspect Keystone. Busch is pretty terrible, too.

Al Coholic
09-29-2011, 07:34 AM
Natty ice is all around terrible, but I can stomach it if I have to(I haven't had to since I was 16). Steel Reserve is just awful.

Keystone isn't that bad, actually. Sure, it's right there with your low-end beers, but may be the best of all of them. It's the stuff that didn't make the cut to become Coors Light, so I like it ok enough.

Rolling Rock is kinda meh, but Rolling Rock Light is actually great. Seriously. Possibly my favorite light beer. Not too many people stock it - pretty much just a handful of groceries. If you ever get a chance, it's good.

Little_Miss_1565
09-29-2011, 10:24 AM
Someone told me last night that there's a regular Amstel and it's not just all Amstel Light. Has anyone ever seen an Amstel in the wild?

Jakebert
09-29-2011, 10:27 AM
Any beer with the word "ice" in the title usually sucks and you should stay away from it. Even in my freshman, Natty Light days I wouldn't touch Bud Ice or Natty Ice.

Now the cheap beer I usually go with if I don't want to spend money and just want to get drunk is PBR. You can usually get a tallboy for 2 bucks or less at any bar, plus it's not a light beer, which is rare for a cheap beer.

bighead384
09-29-2011, 10:37 AM
I have all these imaginary bank accounts in my mind. Like, there's an imaginary bank account that I have for not smoking cigarettes. Drinking cheap compared to drinking expensive beer is sort of in the same category, kind of. Like, I think I'll get more enjoyment out of the money I'd save and accumulate over time than supposed better taste of the beer.

Jakebert
09-29-2011, 10:43 AM
I think that all just goes back to personal taste. I don't mind spending money on better beer because it's something that I really, really enjoy. But I do mind spending money on other things that I could get cheaper because I don't enjoy them as much and will gladly settle.

Llamas
09-29-2011, 10:50 AM
Someone told me last night that there's a regular Amstel and it's not just all Amstel Light. Has anyone ever seen an Amstel in the wild?

Sure, Amstel Lager. Dunno where I've had it, but I've had it. And it's nothing special.


Any beer with the word "ice" in the title usually sucks and you should stay away from it. Even in my freshman, Natty Light days I wouldn't touch Bud Ice or Natty Ice.
I wasn't aware there was a Bud Ice. Natty Ice is a horrid thing, though.


Now the cheap beer I usually go with if I don't want to spend money and just want to get drunk is PBR. You can usually get a tallboy for 2 bucks or less at any bar, plus it's not a light beer, which is rare for a cheap beer.
lol u hipster.

I've realized that the worst beers I've had have pretty much all been American. Milwaukee's Best, High Grav, Coors Light, Natty Ice...

The worst I've had in Europe (which is pretty god awful) is Starobrno. Not to be confused with Staropramen, which is a nice beer... Starobrno is most often sold in a 2 liter plastic bottle. So you KNOW it's good shit.


I have all these imaginary bank accounts in my mind. Like, there's an imaginary bank account that I have for not smoking cigarettes. Drinking cheap compared to drinking expensive beer is sort of in the same category, kind of. Like, I think I'll get more enjoyment out of the money I'd save and accumulate over time than supposed better taste of the beer.
You could save even MORE money if you didn't drink at all. I guess I have an imaginary bank account for not buying any sweet food ever, and another one for buying cheap coffee. I think anyone who's not rich can find things to do this with.

wheelchairman
09-29-2011, 02:53 PM
I keep an imaginary bank account that I use to buy beer and cigarettes with on overdraft. (not really).

Amstel, from Holland, is a fine standard beer. Never heard of the other iterations.

Omni
09-29-2011, 03:13 PM
The worst I've had in Europe (which is pretty god awful) is Starobrno. Not to be confused with Staropramen, which is a nice beer... Starobrno is most often sold in a 2 liter plastic bottle. So you KNOW it's good shit


I have never even heard of beer in a plastic bottle. Looks like America has the biggest consistent lows on quality beer (I first typed that as berr. That's what I shall hereby refer to as cheap American beer, "berr."), but between the plastic bottles and store-brand beer, it sounds like Europe goes balls out when they want to go poor quality.

wheelchairman
09-29-2011, 03:40 PM
She lives in Eastern Europe...

Omni
09-29-2011, 03:51 PM
I know that. What I was trying to say in that mess is that the worst European beer sounds worse than the worst American beer, even though American beer is consistently of poorer quality.

Llamas
09-29-2011, 03:54 PM
I live in Central Europe now, where I live isn't really remotely Eastern... but yeah Starobrno is from Czech, which is pretty much Eastern Europe. You wouldn't find beer like that in like Germany or France or anything.

wheelchairman
09-29-2011, 04:28 PM
Central Europe according to Eastern Europeans. That term hasn't been used much since WW2, and Eastern Europe is more of a politico-economic term rather than geographic. Sort of as an easy way to differentiate why half of Europe is "new democracies". But hey if you wanna swing with the locals then you should start calling the baltics "nordic".*

*that'll happen the day they switch to beer, universal welfare, and comedies with men dressed as women.

Llamas
09-29-2011, 04:43 PM
Central Europe according to Eastern Europeans. That term hasn't been used much since WW2, and Eastern Europe is more of a politico-economic term rather than geographic. Sort of as an easy way to differentiate why half of Europe is "new democracies". But hey if you wanna swing with the locals then you should start calling the baltics "nordic".*

*that'll happen the day they switch to beer, universal welfare, and comedies with men dressed as women.

Not really true... look at any article describing Slovenia. And actually, there's a geographical line through the country that divides it; half the country is in the Balkans, and half is in Central Europe. Slovenia is much more modern than any Eastern country, too. Czech is geographically Central Europe, but it feels a lot more Eastern. Slovenia doesn't feel even remotely Eastern. Very Western feeling. Even comparing Ljubljana to Prague is like night and day. I really don't see any way Slovenia is Eastern: geographically, economically, or culturally.

The culture is basically a big mix of Austrian, Italian, and Croatian. Two of three of those would never be considered "Eastern".

wheelchairman
09-29-2011, 04:57 PM
And yet, somehow, none but Slovenians and possibly open-minded Croatians would agree with you?

And with all due respect, it takes some degree of ignorance to assume that the Slovenian economy is on-par with the west, just because it's better than most of the east. Or that Slovenian is an amalgamation of cultures, and not a unique one with its own food, music, literature, and politics. Or that its institutions draw their strengths from foreign born identities. I appreciate the point you are trying to make, but saying its central europe is exactly the same thing as calling Brazilians 'Americans', a nit-picky point that offers little clarity.

Little_Miss_1565
09-29-2011, 06:30 PM
Non-sequiteur: I can't hear the word "Slovenia" without thinking of Laibach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4VMDxSyLAU

LAIBACH

WebDudette
09-29-2011, 06:50 PM
I have never even heard of beer in a plastic bottle.

It's served at all kinds of festivals and venues, but it's nothing more than bud light in a plastic bottle.

jacknife737
09-29-2011, 07:27 PM
Worst beer i've ever had was actually Danish: "Faxe 10%": i thought it would be very suitable as a "pre drink" since it was like downing 2 beers worth of alcohol in one go: unfortunately it tastes like vinegar....

Retard
09-29-2011, 09:22 PM
I had a chocolate flavored beer one time.... I only finished it because it was my 21st birthday and all my friends made me finish it.... first sip was awesome, tasted like chocolate milk, second was ok, third was wow what the fuck happened? Every sip after that made me want to spit it out. I don't even remember the name of it. Two other guys ordered it. One couldn't finish it, the other gulped it down with a struggle.

wheelchairman
09-30-2011, 03:38 AM
Worst beer i've ever had was actually Danish: "Faxe 10%": i thought it would be very suitable as a "pre drink" since it was like downing 2 beers worth of alcohol in one go: unfortunately it tastes like vinegar....

Ha! Bums love that stuff!

There is a whole industry of beers here that have an unusually high alcohol procent, sell for very little, and they don't taste very good. They're labelled as 'luksusřl' (luxury beers), total misnomer.

Al Coholic
10-02-2011, 07:59 AM
Sam Adams is actually a pretty respectable selection. Didn't care for their IPA or Noble Pils, but their Black Lager and irish reds are among, if not the best I've ever tried in those categories.The Cherry and blackberry beers aint bad if you're on a fruity kick. I think I remember thinking the revolutionary rye was awesome.

A better company to get acquainted with is Magic Hat. Their current seasonal pack is awesome. If you get a chance, pick up The Night of The Living Dead variety 12-pack before it's too late

Llamas
10-02-2011, 08:24 AM
And yet, somehow, none but Slovenians and possibly open-minded Croatians would agree with you?

I'm actually gonna do a poll in a few weeks - I go to these meet-ups here for ex-pats, the majority of which have lived in countries all over the EU or even the world. I'm curious, because I've definitely heard several ex-pats agree that Slovenia is not "Eastern" anymore, but these could just be the people I closely associate with. There were 40 people at the last meet-up, so if I can get it done, I'll share the results if you're interested :P


And with all due respect, it takes some degree of ignorance to assume that the Slovenian economy is on-par with the west, just because it's better than most of the east.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_future_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita_e stimates

Situated above all Eastern countries, plus Central countries. Not saying it's competitive with Scandinavia, but if Italy and Spain aren't considered Eastern, and Slovenia's projected to catch and/or surpass them in the next few years, then it's a bit much to state that no way Slovenia isn't Eastern. I'm not even trying to call it a Western country... I'm calling it Central.

Interesting info about the level of economic freedom here: http://www.heritage.org/index/country/slovenia


Or that Slovenian is an amalgamation of cultures, and not a unique one with its own food, music, literature, and politics. Or that its institutions draw their strengths from foreign born identities.
Actually, I gained those perspectives from Slovenes and from reading cultural studies from around the country. If you go to a typical restaurant here, the menu will typically offer a variety of pizza, Italian pasta, and Croatian foods like pleskavice and ćevapčići. I've yet to have any food here that is considered "Slovene", no matter how hard I've tried ;) There of course is some local music here, but the radio is mostly filled with traditional Yugoslav songs, modern Austrian stuff, and top 40 American/British stuff. Where's Raptor? He's from the opposite end of the country, but I'm sure he could weigh in with his perspective... though I don't think he's lived outside Slovenia.

Retard
10-02-2011, 10:26 AM
I had Budweiser all day yesterday at my friends wedding. I enjoyed the shit out of it.

Alison
10-02-2011, 11:29 AM
I've started drinking beer lately.

I quite like Erdinger and Paulaner, and Carlsberg's not so bad.
Gotta be careful with those stronger beers though, one minute you're sober, and next you're being kicked out of the place.

Offspring-Junkie
10-04-2011, 12:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHP1tWWEvI

Al Coholic
10-05-2011, 05:35 PM
Tijs randomly edits his name in somewhere.
Awesome. It's been over two weeks since anyone read the first post/noticed.

Llamas
10-05-2011, 06:58 PM
I also just noticed Tijs's edit to the original post. hahaha.


Awesome. It's been over two weeks since anyone read the first post/noticed.

Bam .

wheelchairman
10-16-2011, 09:46 PM
I'm actually gonna do a poll in a few weeks - I go to these meet-ups here for ex-pats, the majority of which have lived in countries all over the EU or even the world. I'm curious, because I've definitely heard several ex-pats agree that Slovenia is not "Eastern" anymore, but these could just be the people I closely associate with. There were 40 people at the last meet-up, so if I can get it done, I'll share the results if you're interested :P


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_future_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita_e stimates

Situated above all Eastern countries, plus Central countries. Not saying it's competitive with Scandinavia, but if Italy and Spain aren't considered Eastern, and Slovenia's projected to catch and/or surpass them in the next few years, then it's a bit much to state that no way Slovenia isn't Eastern. I'm not even trying to call it a Western country... I'm calling it Central.

Interesting info about the level of economic freedom here: http://www.heritage.org/index/country/slovenia


Actually, I gained those perspectives from Slovenes and from reading cultural studies from around the country. If you go to a typical restaurant here, the menu will typically offer a variety of pizza, Italian pasta, and Croatian foods like pleskavice and ćevapčići. I've yet to have any food here that is considered "Slovene", no matter how hard I've tried ;) There of course is some local music here, but the radio is mostly filled with traditional Yugoslav songs, modern Austrian stuff, and top 40 American/British stuff. Where's Raptor? He's from the opposite end of the country, but I'm sure he could weigh in with his perspective... though I don't think he's lived outside Slovenia.

And you don't think people are clouding their ideas with what they want to be true either?

Do you think in Spain and Italy they sell beer in plastic 1 liter bottles? (Though how you could call Spain eastern is really beyond me.)

These countries are different economically. They are different culturally, socially, and historically. Some shared history ten decades ago doesn't change this, nor does cultural homogenization.

I mean for christ's sake, it's hard to find a Danish restaurant that serves Danish cuisine in Denmark. (And it is certainly much much much much much much easier to find any restaurant that serves pasta or Italian food, or Indian food or what have you.) Same goes for the radio. If this is your barometer for East/West culture then it really is no surprise you haven't found anything. You're only robbing yourself though.

On a side note, I just got back from Cracow (also hailed as a Western city) where I was moderator for a focus group on preconceptions between Americans and Poles (I held a similar one for my bachelor thesis between Danes and Americans.) The amazing thing is how completely the opposite these focus groups went (granted the Americans in Denmark were very different.) The Poles however were completely different than the Danes. (Where the Danes were arrogant and self-righteous, the Poles were almost appeasing and conciliatory.) It was actually pretty awesome, and I got rather annoyed at the Americans this time around (as opposed to the Danes last time around).

Wishful thinking does not make one 'Western' (and this term means less than you probably think it does.)

I think its more important to discard the idea that Western is good and Eastern bad, which is how these terms are typically thrown around. You won't find many Eastern European peoples openly declaring how Eastern they are, the term is synonymous with backwardness. (And your insistence that they are Western only reinforces this stupid notion.)

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
10-17-2011, 07:35 PM
The sequal is never as good.


Mario Spaghettio would comment on how liberal beer snobs like Wheelchairman have drunkenly voted us into a socialistic armagheddon
T-6005 would write the first third of a short story involving beer, to be continued
JohnnyNemesis would respons that he secretly likes fruity beers, especially this new banana bread beer he recently tried.
Several eastern europeans, specifically for some reason slovakians, rescue the thread and take it back on track.
Seriously, why are there so many Slovakians?
Ozymandias
Harlequinn responds that she also likes fruity beers
We all just remembered again that Harley is acutally a girl


lol I think I'm kinda late seeing how there's like 20 pages, but these points were my favorites. I was laughing my ass off as I read through the list :D;). I wonder what Al would say if he mentioned me in one of his lists?

WebDudette
10-18-2011, 12:49 AM
I've had a few of these over the last couple of days:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/SystemSloth/odell_brewing_ipa.jpg

It's fantastic, it's pretty strong and spicy, which is awesome for me. It's the same brand as the 90 Shillings I was talking about earlier in the thread, the one I didn't like. I think I didn't like it because it was just a regular Pale Ale.

personal_loans_1
10-18-2011, 01:25 AM
Anyone tried Mild Bitter Kit Kat?
Or Ginger Ale?
They should taste more or less like beer, right?

From all that crazy Japan Kit Kat's list that ones I'd like to try best. No, I'd like to try all. But if I'd have to order one of that list I'd choose MB or GA, and not European Cheese, or Beet for example. Or potato.
Wasabi?
I never tried regular Wasabi.

Llamas
10-18-2011, 06:59 AM
Do you think in Spain and Italy they sell beer in plastic 1 liter bottles?
...they don't in Slovenia, either. That was the Czech Republic where I found that. Slovenia is wine country, anyway.


(Though how you could call Spain eastern is really beyond me.)
Where did I call Spain "eastern"?


These countries are different economically. They are different culturally, socially, and historically. Some shared history ten decades ago doesn't change this, nor does cultural homogenization.
So the influence of Archduke Franz Ferdinand was 10 years ago? I've learned a lot about Slovenian history since my last post.

Slovenia was actually much more similar to Italy and Austria before Yugoslavia formed. There's a reason that Slovene is the least Slavic-sounding language of all "Slavic" languages. It shares a lot of Italian pronunciation and German words where other Slavic languages all use the same Slavic word. Their counting system is like German ("four and twenty" instead of "twenty four", which the rest of the Slavic languages say), they say "ur" from the German "uhr", instead of a variation on "hod" or "god" in the other Slavic languages... tons of other examples, I could go on and on. These are not within the last ten years; these are deeply entrenched in the language and society. The Yugoslav influence is more recent, yes, but it was much, much shorter. In the beginning of the country's history, it was occupied by Germans, then Slavs came and took over for a while, but then it became part of Carinthia, which is southern Austria now. Then they were ruled by the Bavarians. During the middle ages, the country was ruled by Habsburg and Bavaria, and the Slovene language was basically non-existent because they were all speaking German at that point. Then it became a province of France after the middle ages for a short time, before once again becoming an Austrian state.

Then of course after WWI, Yugoslavia was formed and Slovenia joined it a bit after, but the western part of the country was inhabited by Italians that entire time. And unlike the rest of the Balkans, Slovenia remained relatively autonomous after the 1950s. Their economy stayed strong despite the rest of Yugoslavia, creating more than double the rest of the countries' domestic product. It was also the first country to speak up against Serbia and push for independence. The other countries just kinda bent over and took it (what a sexist/homophobic saying, now that I think about it), but Slovenia wanted nothing to do with Yugoslavia. Their push for independence came four years before the war, and they became a member of the EU in 2004 - what other former-Yugoslav countries are even EU members now 7 years later?

It's actually a bit insulting to the people here to claim they're "eastern" due to the association with Yugoslavia... because the rest of those countries kind of reject Slovenia. Hell, I almost moved to Croatia - there I would've happily been living in an "eastern" European country.


I mean for christ's sake, it's hard to find a Danish restaurant that serves Danish cuisine in Denmark. (And it is certainly much much much much much much easier to find any restaurant that serves pasta or Italian food, or Indian food or what have you.) Same goes for the radio. If this is your barometer for East/West culture then it really is no surprise you haven't found anything. You're only robbing yourself though.

Actually tried a couple places in the last couple weeks that served "traditional Slovene food". It was nothing but pastas with sauces (a lot of bolognese and alfredo sauces), and seafood. The only "eastern" meal on the menus was Slovene Goulash, but that's more Hungarian than anything, and Austrians make their own Goulash, anyway. So really, the traditional food here seems to have a lot in common with Italian food... and nothing to do with Yugoslavian food.


On a side note, I just got back from Cracow (also hailed as a Western city) where I was moderator for a focus group on preconceptions between Americans and Poles (I held a similar one for my bachelor thesis between Danes and Americans.) The amazing thing is how completely the opposite these focus groups went (granted the Americans in Denmark were very different.) The Poles however were completely different than the Danes. (Where the Danes were arrogant and self-righteous, the Poles were almost appeasing and conciliatory.) It was actually pretty awesome, and I got rather annoyed at the Americans this time around (as opposed to the Danes last time around).
I've never heard Krakow called a Western city, but okay :P Very interesting, though. What were they arrogant/appeasing about? I'm interested in the details of the study.


I think its more important to discard the idea that Western is good and Eastern bad, which is how these terms are typically thrown around. You won't find many Eastern European peoples openly declaring how Eastern they are, the term is synonymous with backwardness. (And your insistence that they are Western only reinforces this stupid notion.)

Oh I definitely don't think one is bad and one is good, not by any means. I honestly didn't think CZ was an "eastern" country until I lived there. Geographically, it's dead center. The people there disliked being called "eastern", and wanted to be "central", but from my experience and the experiences of my foreign friends living there, CZ is very much an eastern country. It's not a bad thing. Perhaps how I view western and eastern is somewhat influenced by the mentality of the people. Eastern to me is partially holding on to old tradition, feeling very, very close with your fellow countrymen, associating closely with your Nation, rejecting new, "modern" things... a lot of the countries in the "east" want to move forward, but they have a notoriously hard time letting go of things from their pasts that may hinder them. However, some of this tradition is a wonderful thing that brings people together. Besides Slovenia, the rest of former Yugoslavia loves each other and they often have these "Balkan parties" with tons of Serb, Bosnians and Croats - they all speak the same language (Slovenes don't), and listen to very similar music (none of that Bavarian crap from Slovenia :P) Those countries miss Yugoslavia, despite the awful way in which it ended... they hold so tightly to tradition... Balkan parties are a blast, and a lot of my foreign friends here go south to Serbia quite often for that relaxed, traditional attitude you find there that you don't find here where people take life and work much more seriously (like the Austrians)...

Czechs have very old traditions, too - some of which I like, and some of which are very sexist and I hated. When outsiders criticize the Czech Easter tradition of men whipping women with tree branches, dumping cold well water on their heads, and then taking gifts of alcohol from the women, Czechs say, "god forbid we'd ever become a spineless, bland backwater country where everyone is afraid of offending anyone else... like in the US." They still have the "-ova" ending for women, which means "belonging to [the man]", which is in the law. Most Czechs can't imagine getting rid of this, and consider it an important tradition that makes sure you know if you're dealing with a man or a woman. Slovenia got rid of it almost a century ago, rejecting the influence from the Slavs.

Al Coholic
10-18-2011, 08:54 AM
Yeah...that's because Slovenians hardly have their own culture. They're a mash of Italian, Austrian, Slavic, and what have you. They're a tiny area, of currently only 2 million people. 80 years ago, it was half that. It's hard to have much of you 'own' culture when over the last couple centuries you've had a few people in a sparsely populated little area. Still to this day, they have 2 cities with over 100,000 people. That kinda means that historically, they haven't had any real cultural centers.

I'm sure there are plenty of cases of little areas developing a distinct culture. I'm just saying there was never a whole lot of 'Slovens', the few of them didn't make many impressive cities, and any culture that tiny area could call its own is overun by dominating influences of neighbors.

Little_Miss_1565
10-18-2011, 10:13 AM
Do all restos in Slovenia play nothing but Laibach 24/7?

Llamas
10-18-2011, 01:40 PM
Yeah...that's because Slovenians hardly have their own culture. They're a mash of Italian, Austrian, Slavic, and what have you. They're a tiny area, of currently only 2 million people. 80 years ago, it was half that. It's hard to have much of you 'own' culture when over the last couple centuries you've had a few people in a sparsely populated little area. Still to this day, they have 2 cities with over 100,000 people. That kinda means that historically, they haven't had any real cultural centers.

I'm sure there are plenty of cases of little areas developing a distinct culture. I'm just saying there was never a whole lot of 'Slovens', the few of them didn't make many impressive cities, and any culture that tiny area could call its own is overun by dominating influences of neighbors.

This is all quite true. And since Bavaria and Austria controlled Slovenia for most of its history, the vast majority of influence here comes from Germany and Austria. Just because Yugoslavia was more recent, though, people who've never been to Slovenia tend to associate it much more with those countries.


Do all restos in Slovenia play nothing but Laibach 24/7?

Haha, I didn't realize before you were talking about the band; Laibach is the German name for Ljubljana. But no, the band Laibach is pretty below the radar here. Like in a lot of countries, restaurants mostly play the same top 40 international pop hits. I haven't heard too much of Laibach - didn't know their name, but when I looked them up, I recognized them. They're definitely pretty good, yo.

mrconeman
10-21-2011, 08:00 PM
where'd the drunk thread go though
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Retard
10-22-2011, 01:58 PM
Had some wonderful Sierra Nevada last night, then my friends went to the liquor store and bought a forty of Olde English. It was a fun drunk night.

_Lost_
10-22-2011, 06:50 PM
I've been on a microbrew kick lately, actually, since this thread was started. I'm completely in love with Sweetwater's IPA and 420. Their wheat beer isn't half bad either.

After weeks of great beers, I bought a 6 pack of Yuengleng and was heartbroken to find I can't stand it anymore. Its too sweet. That used to be my "go to" beer when I was feeling cheap. :( 5 out of 6 are still sitting in my fridge.

Al Coholic
10-22-2011, 07:38 PM
Funny thing about beer. Tastes fluctuate.

I remember when I used to come home craving a Tsingtao after a long day. Had one the other day and it was skunky, even though I bought it from a reputable store where they are very big on proper storage and immediately placed it in the fridge.

Went on a nut brown kick between Seira Nevada's Brown ale and Newcastle. Had one of both recently and it was meh. I once thought Negro Modelo was great, but soon after I just plain didn't like it.

I think there's something to be said for variable factors like pallete(what and when did you eat, how much have you smoked, are you thirsty?) and mood. But, I think it comes down to association. When you try a new beer and you really like it, you're sampling subtleties that dance on the tip of your tounge. You love it, and things just click. There's ultimately that one great moment when you finish your third of that beer and think "this is one of my favorite beers ever." The association is strong, and likely tied to a buzz. Months later you're sober, with an invariably different palette. The experience just doesn't live up as you expect that best-beer-ever moment all over again.

bighead384
11-15-2011, 09:51 PM
Confession: (Swallows pride) I've become much more of a beer snob, so to speak, since I posted in this thread. Obviously, this thread made me curious about trying new beers. I still don't have much desire to go extremely deep into it, but my taste for beer has changed considerably. I can stomach the cheap American beers if I have to or if I'm low on cash, but that's about it. Bottle or draft is much easier to stomach than canned Miller Lite, for example.

Right now I'm drinking Hoegaarden, which is a wheat beer with a hint or coriander and orange peel. Let me tell you, they NAILED it. The fruit has the perfect subtlety. And it's not even that expensive, relatively speaking.

I will say though, that I still do suspect that some beer snobs might be biased against larger companies that I think make some great beers, like Hoegaarden (which seems to have grown considerably) and Sam Adams. I'm not so sure a microbrewery can top that kind of taste.

Jakebert
11-15-2011, 10:10 PM
hooegarden is widely seen by beer snobs as being one of the best examples of that style. i also fall into that camp, and unfiltered wheats are possibly my favorite type.

Beaker
11-15-2011, 10:15 PM
With out the risk of sounding like a complete bogan because i am female..... beer is awesome, esp Tooheys extra dry platinums. Good double strength beer, although new Aus laws are dropping all alcohol content in drinks because we like to binge drink over here too much apparently.

Retard
11-16-2011, 09:06 PM
Had New Castle in a can the other day.... it was fucking DELICIOUS! actually liked it a little more than from the bottle.

WebDudette
11-24-2011, 03:14 AM
I want to pick up 3 or 4 six packs for a Thanksgiving party I'm having Saturday. I'm looking for wintery stuff, dark ales, chocolates, stuff like that. Any reccommendations? I'm going to BevMo and should be able to get just about anything.

Al Coholic
11-24-2011, 11:48 AM
Get a brown ale beacause its autumn colored. Sierra Nevada makes a good brown, Newcastle is fine too. Or if they have it, Alexander Keiths makes a great brown ale.

Lazy Magnolia's Southern Pecan Nut Brown Ale is also a great option, you might concider getting the Keith's and this one.

Get a pumpkin beer as well. Shock Top makes a good one, and so do about 100 other people who range in obscurity. It's really hard to go wrong with a pumpkin beer, just stick to lagers.

Blue Moon makes a great "Winter Abbey Ale" that you can serve with an orange slice, but it's fine without. Winter ale's are a favorite of mine, so it's hard for me to pick one - especially from familiar brands. I remember last winter enjoying both Sam Adams Winter (which ofcourse is a bit blander) and Magic Hat's winterland (which I just recently retried and decided I don't like...it's like they changed the recipe from last year's winter beer.)

If you need one more I'd reccomend grabbing an oktoberfest, of which I'm no expert.

Retard
11-24-2011, 01:01 PM
I think Octoberfest is all gone. Winter beers are pretty good from what I remember. I don't really remember them though.

WebDudette
11-24-2011, 11:10 PM
These are what I've found so far:

Deschutes Black Butte Porter (http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?N=41+4294956807+63&area=Beer&ProductID=12780&Ns=Name%7c0): I think I'm going to get a 12 pack of this, it's relatively cheap and it seems like something everyone can enjoy.

Shipyard Pumpkinhead Ale (http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?N=41+4294956807+63+4294967021&area=Beer&ProductID=16158&Ns=Name%7c0): I was going to get the Dogfish Head Pumpkin Ale but it's about the same price for 4 bottles and most of the people coming aren't all that into beer.

New Belgium Snow Day Winter Ale (http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?N=41+4294956807+63+4294967021&area=Beer&ProductID=15259&Ns=Name%7c0): I want something to cover a chocolate quota, I'm not sure if this is going to cut it, I might get a single bottle of some kind of chocolate bock or something.

Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron (http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?D=dogfish+head&Ntx=mode%2bmatchall&Dx=mode%2bmatchall&Ntk=All&Nty=1&Ntt=dogfish+head&N=0&ProductID=25732&No=10): I might get this because it looks really fucking good. I'll stick it in the back of the fridge and drink it myself.

Abita Pecan Harvest (http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?D=pecan&Ntx=mode%2bmatchall&Dx=mode%2bmatchall&Ntk=All&Nty=1&Ntt=pecan&N=0&ProductID=32232): Pecan beer just sounds really awesome.

Anchor Christmas Ale (http://www.bevmo.com/Shop/ProductDetail.aspx?N=41+4294956807&area=Beer&No=30&ProductID=27728&Ns=Name%7c0): Basically, because someone told me it was good.

Still looking around, the only one I think I've really decided on is the Deschutes. I'm also considering saying fuck it and getting a mixed New Belgium 12 pack and the Deschutes 12 pack.

bighead384
12-01-2011, 08:28 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/hanson-to-sell-mmmhop-beer-20111130

Hanson is going to start selling their own beer. Wow.

Look at the delusional things Hanson says in this article. It sounds to me like they're just bored and have some extra money to blow. But they make it sound like they're all about enriching their fans lives.


"We of course make records, they are fundamental to what we do, but we wanted to create a brand so that our fans have a greater experience," Zac Hanson told reporters at Oxford University Union in Oxford, England on Monday, justifying the new project. "What is vital is that Hanson merchandise is quality and not made solely with the purpose of profit."

"We have a board game and even a record player to play our last record on, but we will never make dolls, lunch boxes or toothbrushes that play our songs, for example. It's vital our fans have trust in everything Hanson do," says Hanson. "In fact, we are soon going to be selling our own beer, I'm not even joking. MMMHop IPA, anyone?"

Omni
12-02-2011, 03:11 PM
This sort of stuff never works out. Imagine if they tried something really stupid, like a hot sauce. That would never take off.

Baldwin
12-05-2011, 09:10 AM
Baldwin surfaces, and writes an entertaining page-and-a-half about how we're all alcoholics on some downward cycle that invariably leads to heavy drug use. The term 'pill of hop' is used. None of us are quite sure what that means.

It's a ball of opium, you damn dirty drunk, and I'd know better than to assume anyone on this board has enough class and sophistication for anything better than ADHD meds, spraypaint, and spinning around in circles really fast so they get totally dizzy and giggle.

edit ; did anybody save the link for the Russian xanax?

Al Coholic
12-05-2011, 11:47 PM
I once smoked so much K2 I got thirsty.

Retard
12-05-2011, 11:51 PM
Opium is great. I'd love to do it again.

WebDudette
02-26-2012, 11:42 PM
I bought a few beers this weekend, most of them aren't really noteworthy, but I'll mention them anyway.

Abita Purple Haze, I don't like fruity beers, it just taste like shitty with shitty fruit syrup or something. I don't think it's a bad beer, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Windmer Drifter Pale Ale, another fruity beer, but it's citrus so it's different. I like it, it has some tangerine and grapefruit flavors.

Rogue Juniper Pale Ale, it's not as junipery as I had hoped. I guess I was looking for basically, a beer version of a really juniper-y gin. I fucking love juniper. Anyway, it's a pretty good pale ale, but that's about it.

Dogfish Head Midas Touch is one of the three that I got that I was particularly interested in. I'm drinking it now and it's... interesting and different. The premise is basically, Dogfish Head took the oldest recorded recipe for beer, and then tried to make it. I don't really know shit about wines, liquors, and beers, but this beer taste like a combination of all three to me. It has kind of a white wine grape taste, a slight ethanol shitty-liquor finish (which I guess you actually get from shitty wine too), and an overall light beer texture. Okay, it's basically a shitty, carbonated white wine. But it's 9% and I'm glad I at least tried it.

The other two I am excited about is a vegan Winter Ale with a really cool label and Hopslam. I've heard so many thing about how amazing Hopslam is the alpha and omega of IPA's, which I love, but I've been kind of IPA'd out, still looking forward to it.

WebDudette
02-27-2012, 12:30 AM
Hopslam is pretty damn amazing. It's the best IPA I've ever had. It's has a very dry sharp hop taste with a spot-on grapefruit finish. I didn't taste the honey that is mentioned on the bottle, and it doesn't really have the sweet or malty after taste I've heard other people talk about. As I stated in my previous post though, I don't know shit. I'm just starting to get into beers and wines. None the less, it's a very bitter beer, with a powerful hoppy taste, and a exact grapefruit finish. I love it a lot, but I can't justify the price tag. The only thing that justifies this kind of price for me (so far) is Dogfish Head's Palo Santo Marron. I love IPA's but creamy, malty beers are definitely my current favorite. On that note, Old Rasputin's Imperial Russian Stout is fucking amazing.

Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome Ale is the other one I was excited for. It's okay, but I honestly can't taste any differentiating or noticeable flavors. That could just be me being shitty at tasting shit, the fact that I drank Hopslam immediately prior, or it could just not be a great beer. I mean, it's a good beer, just not for me. I'm gonna say uhh... nutty, bready, fruity. Not like good fruits, but like plums, or some other really subtle fruit.

edit: Holy shit, Winter Welcome does not go with whiskey. Ugh, fucking awful.

bighead384
03-04-2012, 02:38 PM
Bud Light Platinum should just be called "Bud Light Better". Seriously, what's the incentive to buy regular Bud Light now? It's like a dollar cheaper, but I'd safely estimate that 3 Bud Lights gets you about as drunk and 4 Bud Light Platinums, so even the small price difference is kind of cancelled out.

Al Coholic
04-23-2012, 05:57 PM
So guys, bud ice isn't selling very well even though it's cheaper than bud or bud light and it has more alcohol than bud.

Put it in a fancy bottle and charge more?

bighead384
04-23-2012, 06:01 PM
I got into microbrews and got right the fuck out. But for a different reason.

My metabolism is starting to say "fuck you". I only drink light beer now.

Al Coholic
04-23-2012, 06:03 PM
Oh and if you're still drinking Bud "Light" platinum,

It has only 8 less calories than bud. By comparison, it has MORE Calories than yuengling or bud ice. It's not actually a light beer, it's just that the label "bud light" carries so much weight that they'll slap it on anything.

WebDudette
04-24-2012, 12:43 AM
I was dog sitting for a guy and he bought a bunch of Bud Light for me to drink. I had 7 of them before I gave up on getting drunk and got tired of getting up to pee. I had 3 IPA's and an Imperial Stout at lunch today and was reasonably tipsy. It's probably still more calories, but I really hate the taste of bud light.

If I want to drink to get drunk, I'm not drinking light beer. If I don't want to get drunk, I'm probably still not drinking light beer. It definitely has it's place though. For example, we have Sapporo on tap at work, it's $1 a glass after we've closed.

Better substitutes for Bud Light are Keystone and Coors, in my opinion.

XYlophonetreeZ
05-27-2013, 01:17 AM
That Leinenkugel Summer Shandy stuff? Tastes fucking EXACTLY like Mountain Dew Baja Blast (the stuff that they only sell at Taco Bell). I was blown away, in the same way that everyone gets blown away when they try a flaming Dr. Pepper for the first time while already half-drunk.

Can't say I really enjoyed it, though. I'm the kinda guy where if I order a beer, I want there to be BEER in my beer. Any weirdo flavor like this just give me the jibblies.

Best new seasonal brew that I've had? Carolina Spring Bock.

Others I'm diggin' right now: Anchor Liberty, MNB Drafty Kilt, Highland Gaelic Ale.

Has anyone in the history of the universe every actually tried a Redd's Apple Ale, or is it just some company that was started by some hobo who won the lotto and spent all of it on advertising?

Tiny Vessels
05-27-2013, 01:30 AM
Has anyone in the history of the universe every actually tried a Redd's Apple Ale, or is it just some company that was started by some hobo who won the lotto and spent all of it on advertising?

I don't like Redd's at all. To me it doesn't taste good at all and it has a really ad after taste. But where I work it's a big seller, why I don't know. It's just awful to me.