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Offspring-Junkie
03-09-2012, 11:57 AM
You may or may not have heard about it, if not, listen to this. It's in the media everywhere. I think it matters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

Thanks.

Little_Miss_1565
03-09-2012, 12:35 PM
It's a good cause to help the children of Uganda, but... http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/campaign-to-stop-kony-shines-light-on-ill-informed-activists/story-e6frg6so-1226295402061

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
03-09-2012, 01:08 PM
I was wondering when somebody was gonna post that here. It went viral like three days ago

ad8
03-09-2012, 01:09 PM
That was a good read. I can understand why so many people respond to that video, though. They probably spend some thousands of dollars on making it the most dramatic and empathy-arousing video it could be, but I doubt that this was the right thing to do since it (purposefully) goes beyond the current state of affairs in the case.

Little_Miss_1565
03-09-2012, 01:35 PM
That was a good read. I can understand why so many people respond to that video, though. They probably spend some thousands of dollars on making it the most dramatic and empathy-arousing video it could be, but I doubt that this was the right thing to do since it (purposefully) goes beyond the current state of affairs in the case.

This also makes me laugh: http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-who-think-carl-weathers-is-joseph-kony

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
03-09-2012, 02:14 PM
This also makes me laugh: http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-who-think-carl-weathers-is-joseph-kony

My day has been made complete.

yarock
03-09-2012, 03:54 PM
KONY > OBAMA + SARKO + MERKEL + CAMERON² + MEDVEDEV true as fuck

BagOfShenanigans
03-09-2012, 04:06 PM
It's not America's concern. If US forces move into Uganda to apprehend this man, I will move to Canada.

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
03-09-2012, 05:51 PM
It's not America's concern. If US forces move into Uganda to apprehend this man, I will move to Canada.

I'll give you a place to stay. That is, for a fee....

XYlophonetreeZ
03-09-2012, 05:53 PM
KONY > OBAMA + SARKO + MERKEL + CAMERON² + MEDVEDEV true as fuck
You're fucking worthless.

yarock
03-09-2012, 05:59 PM
KONY + AMIN > BRANDT + PALME + WALESA spread it

Isolated Fury
03-10-2012, 11:18 AM
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj593/bahraindweller/421869_317700158289853_100001496137147_890506_7592 87686_n.jpg

You're welcome.

Isolated Fury
03-10-2012, 11:28 AM
I'm sorry. Last one... I promise.

http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj593/bahraindweller/14c.jpg

XYlophonetreeZ
03-11-2012, 01:22 PM
My message to people who are pro-Kony2012: As with any charity, it's really important to understand exactly where the money is going. The guys behind it explain this here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh7La-T_BvU). Thing is, that's the only place I've seen any of this explained. There in the Piers Morgan interview, they acknowledge that it's "not a typical charity," but they know that they're relying on knee-jerk reactions from people who watch the film and immediately assume that it is a typical charity. And while they claim that it's transparent on their website, on the actual "click to donate" link, stayclassy.org (?), it's never mentioned. And they even have an FAQ on the right-hand side, and "where is the money going?" isn't even one of the questions! But don't worry, "Is my donation tax-deductible?" is. 33% of the money is going to the film, which has already been made. If they want to pay the people who worked on it, fine, but... 33%? 33% is going to merchandise, which is fine- spread the word- but there has to be a goal in site. When will they accept that the word has spread enough and it's time to give more to the mission? But if you decide that you're OK with a third of your money going to the mission, then by all means give.

My message to people who are anti-Kony2012: Stop excitedly pointing out that he's not in Uganda anymore, as though that somehow discredits the whole thing. You honestly think that the wounds this guy left with the nation have healed? And you honestly don't think this fucker is still wreaking havoc wherever he is?

Personally, I think the key to this thing's success is that it focuses on a villain. Our culture is fascinated with villains and with evil. Probably the best way to say it is that it created a big, unifying feeling of pwnage. We love pwning people more than anything, and here everyone who supports this film can feel like they're pwning Kony.

Kwned.

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
03-11-2012, 01:33 PM
I support the campaign to make Kony a well known person, but I do not support Invisible Children. There are charities related to that issue that would be a much wiser choice for your money.

I do think it's important that people know who he is though. Government/military* action could be influenced by what everyone wants and is talking about.

*Considering it's a child army, military action might not be the best choice.

Llamas
03-11-2012, 05:31 PM
I support the campaign to make Kony a well known person, but I do not support Invisible Children. There are charities related to that issue that would be a much wiser choice for your money.

Could you name a couple and explain why they'd be better? I'm just curious, because I don't know of any, and I'm not sure how any charities for this cause could really do anything.

Little_Miss_1565
03-11-2012, 05:36 PM
Could you name a couple and explain why they'd be better? I'm just curious, because I don't know of any, and I'm not sure how any charities for this cause could really do anything.

Why is it impossible that any NGOs could help Uganda in a meaningful way?

Unrelated to the child soldiers problem, the African Children's Choir takes on AIDS orphans in Uganda and other African nations, educates them through to university for free, and brings them to the US as touring choirs to raise awareness and give them the experience of seeing countries other than their own. The children are well cared for, and nearly 90% of what they raise goes directly to programming.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
03-11-2012, 05:44 PM
My turn http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/264/083/db8.jpg

Llamas
03-11-2012, 05:50 PM
Why is it impossible that any NGOs could help Uganda in a meaningful way?

I wasn't saying it's impossible. Not at all. I just haven't heard of any of them and am curious about how they actually help.

BagOfShenanigans
03-11-2012, 07:23 PM
Do I win?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16035346.jpg

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
03-11-2012, 07:42 PM
Could you name a couple and explain why they'd be better? I'm just curious, because I don't know of any, and I'm not sure how any charities for this cause could really do anything.
I looked into that for you again, and I realized that I should have investigated that a little more before I opened my mouth. I briefly (really briefly, like 5 seconds) examined the charities listed by some YouTube videos and thought they applied specifically to the LRA. I guess they're just more for African children in general. My bad.

I guess I have no clue if there are any charities for this specific cause. I'm pretty sure I've heard people mention non-profit organizations that help with sheltering the Ugandan children during the night to prevent kidnapping, but I don't remember which ones those would be.

The reason I think anything else but Invisible Children would be better is because they spend the majority of their money on marketing and the business related bit of the charity. Only about 32% goes to direct aid.

batfish
03-12-2012, 06:22 AM
how about something like this?

http://www.dfid.gov.uk/Stories/Features/2012/Creating-safer-countries---recovering-from-war-in-northern-Uganda/

Baldwin
03-12-2012, 08:32 AM
Aren't half the mai-mai's from that conflict still active and committing atrocities on a daily basis? There's got to be at least 200 warlords in the Congo alone that need to be hunted down and killed. What's so special about this guy in particular?

Little_Miss_1565
03-12-2012, 08:35 AM
Aren't half the mai-mai's from that conflict still active and committing atrocities on a daily basis? There's got to be at least 200 warlords in the Congo alone that need to be hunted down and killed. What's so special about this guy in particular?

Easier to make an expensive film about the actions of one man and use that to pull at emotions rather than actually explain the complex morass of institutionalized atrocity that Uganda has developed. Actually explaining the situation facing Ugandans would make it seem too impossible to fix and therefore give money to.

Baldwin
03-12-2012, 08:42 AM
Ah, yeah. Just googled the LRA. They were the villains in a semi-recent James Bond movie.

That explains a lot.

Baldwin
03-14-2012, 07:02 AM
So I just watched Machine Gun Preacher (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1586752/), about a guy who goes to Uganda for charity work and ends up in the Sudan fighting Kony's LRA. I'm guessing the scum who made the Kony video watched the same movie, somehow missed the four or five times they explicitly said "going to Sudan" instead of "going North" and made their video without even bothering to wiki the subject first.

XYlophonetreeZ
03-14-2012, 09:48 AM
Is Invisible Children exclusively a charity that spends its donations in Uganda, and nowhere else? Because I can't figure out why people are making such a big deal out of the fact that the LRA is out of Uganda now. What I got from the film is that that was kind of the point- that was why they were able to interview those Ugandan kids in the first place. In no way did I interpret it to say that they were going to allocate all of their funding to Uganda, or that Kony was still there.

Baldwin
03-14-2012, 11:04 AM
Is Invisible Children exclusively a charity that spends its donations in Uganda, and nowhere else?

No, I understood they spent most of them in California. :)

The funds that actually make it to Africa go directly to aiding the Ugandan Armed Forces and the SPLA.

Uganda is a country that has it's shit together (relatively), with an army already capable of defending their people from militia groups. Plenty of African countries are broken to the point that their militaries can't defend against groups like the LRA. The Congo, for instance, where the militias responsible for the Rwandan genocide are still running around murdering people with immunity. That's why it's kind of a big deal that Kony (and anybody else like him) isn't in Uganda anymore.

The SPLA are Sudanese, so there is some money being spent outside Uganda. But the SPLA are just a much larger militia group (soon to become the official Armed Forces of South Sudan), bitter rivals of the LRA, and they spend their days doing the exact same shit the LRA does, because that's how Africa works.

Jojan
03-14-2012, 11:43 AM
You may or may not have heard about it, ...

That is so true, man.

XYlophonetreeZ
03-14-2012, 11:53 AM
Well, I think the funding has a degree of flexibility to it. It's true that they've built up an infrastructure in Uganda, but I think all they can directly fund is sending their employees to Africa and their own facility in Uganda, which in turn helps the Africans out on the ground. From that point on it's out of our hands and will be used however they deem most effective. Transparency issue? Sure. But still probably smart given the dynamism of the conflicts.

Uganda is definitely better off than most countries in the region. There are South Sudanese refugees in the north living in all kinds of abject situations and they're poor as dirt, but as far as violence goes, there isn't much. The Congo, on the other hand, is fucked and has been for centuries. Have you read King Leopold's Ghost?

I'd like to hear someone ask that douchey Jason guy "If the LRA is discovered somewhere outside your area of operation, how will you adjust your strategy? How will you spend our money?" Because I don't know if they have to keep funding the same military groups (if any) that they have in the past.

I know a little bit about Invisible Children, and I know that a lot of what they've done after Kony's departure has been to aid the Acholi people left in Uganda and to help them start businesses and start a functional society. My brother actually went to Uganda to volunteer with some university program that had some ties to IC. The Kony film seems like an odd strategy if they want to continue doing that. Although again, I think that focusing on a "villain" was a brilliant strategy for gaining attention.

Little_Miss_1565
03-16-2012, 02:55 PM
Co-founder of Invisible Children arrested for masturbating in public (http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/kony-2012-filmmaker-arrested-san-diego-public-masturbation-vandalizing-36329).

Coincidentally, "Co-founder of Invisible Children masturbating in public" was the rejected title of the Kony 2012 video. *BAZINGA*

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
03-16-2012, 05:30 PM
^That won't do much good for the Kony campaign

mrconeman
03-16-2012, 05:58 PM
Bet he wishes he didn't go viral now...

Little_Miss_1565
03-16-2012, 06:46 PM
On a non-douchey note, mental illness is a terrible thing, and no one should have to have a break with reality in public.

DeAtHsTaR
03-16-2012, 09:22 PM
I wonder if he ever stopped to think of the children...

samseby
03-17-2012, 12:44 AM
Maybe he got a little too excited ;-)

Llamas
03-17-2012, 06:13 AM
http://chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/tweet-of-the-day.jpg

Isolated Fury
03-17-2012, 06:28 AM
http://chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/tweet-of-the-day.jpg
I wish I could think of a joke involving full release and millions of invisible children.

Llamas
03-17-2012, 06:43 AM
http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/231/6612/original.jpg

Llamas
03-17-2012, 06:56 AM
By the way, I think I see what's happening here. It's uncanny.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6b/Randle_Patrick_McMurphy_picture.jpg/300px-Randle_Patrick_McMurphy_picture.jpg
Jason Russell

http://whysoblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/nurse-ratched.jpg
Kony

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk2c8ho4VW1qgd7wz.jpg
Russell and the Invisible Children

Isolated Fury
03-17-2012, 07:07 AM
Thank you, llamas. Will you marry me?

DeAtHsTaR
03-17-2012, 11:35 AM
Invisible Children....visible cock.

Llamas
03-17-2012, 12:26 PM
Thank you, llamas. Will you marry me?

But how do I benefit from this?