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bighead384
05-15-2012, 11:59 AM
Do you fancy your debate skills to be better than Osama bin Laden's?

Jojan
05-15-2012, 12:08 PM
Yes. He is dead.

bighead384
05-15-2012, 12:09 PM
Yes. He is dead.

No, that's a conspiracy.

mario_spaghettio
05-15-2012, 03:09 PM
No, that's a conspiracy.I normally don't believe any of the crazy conspiracy theories, but this one certainly has the most merit. The whole "we dumped him in the ocean as soon as we killed him" nonsense is a fucking joke and anybody who believes that bullshit story is a fucking joke too.

ad8
05-15-2012, 03:20 PM
Yes. He is dead.
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disclaimer_07
05-15-2012, 03:28 PM
We cannot disregard this evidence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgYFmMdIz0M).

mario_spaghettio
05-16-2012, 10:12 AM
I could certainly win a debate with his Muslim brother, Barack Hussein Obama. I'd be like "why are you trying to imprison innocent Americans for not purchasing Obamacare you no good socialist son of a bitch" and he'd be like "calm down Mr. Spaghettio, big brother is only looking out for your best interest" then I'd say "by putting me in fucking jail, are you fucking batshit crazy or just plain evil" and he'd reply "both"

Little_Miss_1565
05-16-2012, 10:44 AM
Who exactly is going to jail over not purchasing health insurance?

Jojan
05-16-2012, 10:52 AM
Who exactly is going to jail over not purchasing health insurance?

You, my love.

Llamas
05-16-2012, 10:52 AM
Who exactly is going to jail over not purchasing health insurance?

"President Obama said that penalties are appropriate for people who try to “free ride” the health care system but stopped short of endorsing the threat of jail time for those who refuse to pay a fine for not having insurance. “What I think is appropriate is that in the same way that everybody has to get auto insurance and if you don’t, you’re subject to some penalty, that in this situation, if you have the ability to buy insurance, it’s affordable and you choose not to do so, forcing you and me and everybody else to subsidize you, you know, there’s a thousand dollar hidden tax that families all across America are — are burdened by because of the fact that people don’t have health insurance, you know, there’s nothing wrong with a penalty.""

It's very logical, if you ask me. In most European countries, everyone pays some tax that's proportional to their income (unemployed people of course don't pay anything) that goes to health insurance. If you're employed, you have to pay this tax. And if you don't pay it, just as any other tax, you face jail time.

Little_Miss_1565
05-16-2012, 10:54 AM
You, my love.

Too bad I buy health insurance. :(


And if you don't pay it, just as any other tax, you face jail time.

The quote above this said Obama "stopped short" of endorsing the threat of jail time.

mario_spaghettio
05-16-2012, 11:00 AM
Too bad I buy health insurance. :(



The quote above this said Obama "stopped short" of endorsing the threat of jail time.It's in the 3000 page bill, but of course he's not going to highlight that part. Also, people can choose not to drive so the auto insurance analogy is garbage.

Llamas
05-16-2012, 11:16 AM
The quote above this said Obama "stopped short" of endorsing the threat of jail time.

Here's the actual interview. He didn't dismiss the possibility, but rather avoided it. I'm pretty sure that the actual bill includes the possibility of jail time. But I'm not opposed to that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdoW0wWyIXA

Little_Miss_1565
05-16-2012, 11:36 AM
I don't agree with jail time as a penalty, but I do think the bill is an important one.

However, I think it's needlessly complicated. Just bring on the single payer healthcare system. The free market is no place for something that determines whether humans live or die.

Bowser's Trousers
05-16-2012, 11:51 AM
I could certainly win a debate with his Muslim brother, Barack Hussein Obama. I'd be like "why are you trying to imprison innocent Americans for not purchasing Obamacare you no good socialist son of a bitch" and he'd be like "calm down Mr. Spaghettio, big brother is only looking out for your best interest" then I'd say "by putting me in fucking jail, are you fucking batshit crazy or just plain evil" and he'd reply "both"

Actually, what's batshit crazy are "conservatives" like you. You would rather that your healthcare cost more so some rich guy gets a larger tax break. If I was in an interview with Mitt Romney I'd be all like "hey, aren't you supposed to be fiscally conservative? How does having the taxpayers and carry the burden of the uninsureds many unpaid bills to the emergency room save money? Also, did you change your opinion on healthcare because you're pandering to the Mario Spaghettio's of the world or you're just in the pocket of healthcare companies?" and he'd reply "both"

Bowser's Trousers
05-16-2012, 11:55 AM
I normally don't believe any of the crazy conspiracy theories, but this one certainly has the most merit. The whole "we dumped him in the ocean as soon as we killed him" nonsense is a fucking joke and anybody who believes that bullshit story is a fucking joke too.

You wish. Obama practically killed Bin Laden himself. What doesn't make any sense is that a dictator that we put in power - Saddam Hussein - was "found" less than one year before election day. Anyone who isn't blindly sucking the tit of Rush Limbaugh knows Bush planted an impersonator there.

mario_spaghettio
05-16-2012, 12:18 PM
Your 2 posts contain multiple LOL's. First, I'm not conservative. My beliefs are independent of any political philosophy, but most closely resemble libertarian ideals because they are the most sensible. As far as your Saddam Hussein comment, I assume you're joking. At least in that case they had a living body as proof. I'm 99% certain the Osama being dumped into the ocean is a crock of shit though. He may have been captured, or already dead, but the story the Obama administration put out there is garbage.

Omni
05-16-2012, 02:10 PM
I'm pretty sure anyone who enters a debate feels 100% confident they would win. What if bin Laden was actually a very skilled debater? What if he would have just fucking shot me or had me shot before the debate ended, so it wouldn't matter anyway?


I think that's the question that should have been posed; do you have a quicker draw than Osama bin Laden?

jacknife737
05-16-2012, 04:27 PM
He was obviously born in Kenya and not Hawaii! No need to debate something we all know is true!

Romney/Paul 2012

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
05-16-2012, 09:29 PM
I normally don't believe any of the crazy conspiracy theories, but this one certainly has the most merit. The whole "we dumped him in the ocean as soon as we killed him" nonsense is a fucking joke and anybody who believes that bullshit story is a fucking joke too.
I'd buy it. I never considered that people would have their stupid conspiracy theories for Osama. He's dead.

Llamas
05-17-2012, 04:41 AM
I'd buy it. I never considered that people would have their stupid conspiracy theories for Osama. He's dead.

I've learned that there are conspiracy theories for everything. I recently discovered a quite popular conspiracy theory, that the EU exists in order for Muslims to take over Europe. It's called Eurabia, and that Norwegian dude who shot a bunch of teenagers believes it.

I also met a Slovenian guy a few weeks ago who believes that the US/Ronald Reagan was personally responsible for Yugoslavia ending. According to him, Yugoslavia was a perfect, wonderful empire without serious problems and with a great economy, and Reagan didn't like that there was a successful communist country. So he propped up a ton of churches and promoted religious turmoil to turn the Yugos against each other, resulting in genocide. Was impossible to argue with this guy's crazy logic because he just couldn't listen to anyone else, and when asked to explain things, he kept reiterating the same illogical thing over and over again. *Sigh*. There really are conspiracy theories for everything. Not really surprised that there are some for Osama...

mario_spaghettio
05-17-2012, 05:55 AM
I'd buy it. I never considered that people would have their stupid conspiracy theories for Osama. He's dead.he most likely is dead, and was dead before he was supposedly killed by US forces. I think Obama just found a way to take credit for it. People needed a sense of closure(aka revenge) for the 9/11 deal, and Osama dying of natural causes wasn't going to cut it. When US intelligence caught wind of his death they figured it was the perfect opportunity to swoop in and take credit. The way they ditched the body so quickly without any proof whatsoever is beyond suspicious. Like I said, I think nearly all conspiracy theories are completely ridiculous, but this one is different.

Little_Miss_1565
05-17-2012, 08:38 AM
Anywhere they would have put his body would have turned into an instant shrine to terrorist martyrdom. That's not much of a choice to keep the body as proof. There are photos supposedly, which they won't show to the public, which I think is good. Not like they'd do anything to convince you, anyway.

WebDudette
05-17-2012, 08:43 AM
Assuming he was alive and spoke enough English to debate me, it'd still depend on the topic. If we we're debating the best way to lead one of the worlds largest terrorist organizations, I'm sure he'd destroy me. If the debate subject was the cultural impact of Justin Bieber, I think I'd take it.

TheNooseIsFalling
05-17-2012, 03:12 PM
You can't argue with extremists. They're all morons.

Llamas
05-17-2012, 03:19 PM
Assuming he was alive and spoke enough English to debate me, it'd still depend on the topic. If we we're debating the best way to lead one of the worlds largest terrorist organizations, I'm sure he'd destroy me. If the debate subject was the cultural impact of Justin Bieber, I think I'd take it.

Let's turn this thread into debates you would win against Osama.

I would definitely hand his ass to him in a debate about what's more comfortable: blue jeans, or jeggings.

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
05-17-2012, 06:57 PM
I've learned that there are conspiracy theories for everything. I recently discovered a quite popular conspiracy theory, that the EU exists in order for Muslims to take over Europe. It's called Eurabia, and that Norwegian dude who shot a bunch of teenagers believes it.

I also met a Slovenian guy a few weeks ago who believes that the US/Ronald Reagan was personally responsible for Yugoslavia ending. According to him, Yugoslavia was a perfect, wonderful empire without serious problems and with a great economy, and Reagan didn't like that there was a successful communist country. So he propped up a ton of churches and promoted religious turmoil to turn the Yugos against each other, resulting in genocide. Was impossible to argue with this guy's crazy logic because he just couldn't listen to anyone else, and when asked to explain things, he kept reiterating the same illogical thing over and over again. *Sigh*. There really are conspiracy theories for everything. Not really surprised that there are some for Osama...
That's awesome. I'm surrounded by younglings like myself all day and I've heard some pretty wacky things.

bighead384
05-18-2012, 09:08 AM
Could you win a debate with Bin Laden on the subject of the morality of religious terrorism, and attacks on non-combatants?

Llamas
05-18-2012, 09:51 AM
Could you win a debate with Bin Laden on the subject of the morality of religious terrorism, and attacks on non-combatants?

Morality is very subjective, and there's no "winning" that kind of debate. Those kinds either end in "agree to disagree" or storming off angrily. There's no facts for morality.

Degstur Lolland
05-18-2012, 02:09 PM
Good thread. :D

Could you win a debate with Mario? :D

Morality is very subjective? Well, I know that the truth is objective and morality seems very close. It seems like a piece of shit people have it the other way around. Any ideas? What about raping little kids, having 3 wives at the same time or Mario's favourite gay marriage?

Finally, been ladin, a better question would be if the "civilized" world should have had a "debate", I guess I mean the war, with him?

Could you win a debate with Christophe Hitchens?

Could you win a debate with Dexter Holland? :D He must be a tough mofo, true renaissance punkman, no joke, serious polymath.

mario_spaghettio
05-19-2012, 10:09 PM
Morality is very subjective, and there's no "winning" that kind of debate. Those kinds either end in "agree to disagree" or storming off angrily. There's no facts for morality.http://assets.motivationalgenerator.com/hashed_silo_content/93c/225/f1c/resized/osama-bin-laden-disagrees-to-agree-to-disagree-38a404.jpg

BagOfShenanigans
05-20-2012, 05:01 AM
There's always the possibility that Osama never existed, and the US used him as some great big boogeyman scare tactic.


In which case, yes. I am perfectly capable of winning a debate with a fictional character.

Llamas
05-20-2012, 05:09 AM
There's always the possibility that Osama never existed, and the US used him as some great big boogeyman scare tactic.


In which case, yes. I am perfectly capable of winning a debate with a fictional character.

Man, wouldn't that be something? When did we first hear about Bin Laden? Was it after 9/11? If so, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if that were true.

mario_spaghettio
05-20-2012, 09:33 AM
He was well known before 9/11