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offspringiztheshit
06-19-2012, 09:11 PM
im guessing by the end of the summer 3x platinum world wide or is that too much or too little. what do you all think?

Outerspaceman21
06-19-2012, 09:23 PM
Probably 100,000

GamerKT
06-19-2012, 09:30 PM
Probably 100,000

Probably. Albums don't sell amazingly nowadays. People mostly buy singles or just pirate.

TheJakes84
06-19-2012, 09:33 PM
100,000 characters

offspringiztheshit
06-19-2012, 09:37 PM
Probably. Albums don't sell amazingly nowadays. People mostly buy singles or just pirate.

yea that true

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
06-19-2012, 10:17 PM
100,001 at least :)

hshduppsnt
06-19-2012, 10:26 PM
well considering I pre-ordered an album and then was freaking out because of my move that it may not get here in time ALSO pre-ordered MP3 versions...

that's 2 right? :D

Degstur Lolland
06-20-2012, 12:56 PM
The biggest bands have a trouble going Platinum in the US.

If they regained Gold, well that would be a tremendous success.

The measuring stick is RFRG, around 300 000 in the USA and YGGFK 1 600 000 (worldwide?).

If it's going down, then 200 000 in the USA.

Britpunk
06-20-2012, 01:05 PM
500000+ US, 3m~ worldwide.

RonWelty
06-20-2012, 01:05 PM
500000+ US, 3m~ worldwide.

you're joking right?
If they sell 1Million worldwide it would be HUGE

offspringiztheshit
06-20-2012, 01:07 PM
are we talking about hard copy cd's? or overall units?

Britpunk
06-20-2012, 01:11 PM
you're joking right?
If they sell 1Million worldwide it would be HUGE

Just being optimistic ;)

Nah I just feel a good buzz around this album. CC got everybody's attention and the album is really solid. I'm sure it'll do better than RAFRAG anyway..

BagOfShenanigans
06-20-2012, 01:33 PM
500000+ US, 3m~ worldwide.

Yeah.. the Offspring going Multi-Platinum. You should be a comedian.

vionline
06-20-2012, 01:38 PM
10.000 copies worldwide!

uhashusahu

Degstur Lolland
06-20-2012, 01:43 PM
10.000 copies worldwide!

uhashusahu
Shut up yo Mechicano mouf, Virgilio Torres. :D

And laugh properly, not like a retard.

vionline
06-20-2012, 02:21 PM
Shut up yo Mechicano mouf, Virgilio Torres. :D

And laugh properly, not like a retard.

uahsuashusahusahsae
Love you too!


"I dont want this anymore, its time for me to close the door theres nothing left to feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel!"

RIP OFFSPRING!

Omni
06-20-2012, 02:28 PM
The biggest bands have a trouble going Platinum in the US.

If they regained Gold, well that would be a tremendous success.

The measuring stick is RFRG, around 300 000 in the USA and YGGFK 1 600 000 (worldwide?).

If it's going down, then 200 000 in the USA.

After four years, RaF,RaG sold 329,000 copies in the US. I have been predicting for a couple of years now that this one will sell probably 250,000 in the US, but it will almost certainly fall short of the previous album. 200,000-250,000 is a fair estimate I would say. It would be cool if they finally snagged the #1 spot, but I think Linkin Park is going to take it. This January, the Amos Lee album "Mission Bell" reached #1 with a mere 40,000 copies sold, so it would be very possible for an act like the Offspring to get a number one album, if not for a more popular band like Linkin Park.

I think the only hope for this album to beat RaF,RaG would be for a strong debut of 75-100,000 the first week, but I think first week sales will probably be 35-50,000.

GamerKT
06-20-2012, 02:30 PM
After four years, RaF,RaG sold 329,000 copies in the US. I have been predicting for a couple of years now that this one will sell probably 250,000 in the US, but it will almost certainly fall short of the previous album. 200,000-250,000 is a fair estimate I would say. It would be cool if they finally snagged the #1 spot, but I think Linkin Park is going to take it. This January, the Amos Lee album "Mission Bell" reached #1 with a mere 40,000 copies sold, so it would be very possible for an act like the Offspring to get a number one album, if not for a more popular band like Linkin Park.

I think the only hope for this album to beat RaF,RaG would be for a strong debut of 75-100,000 the first week, but I think first week sales will probably be 35-50,000.

Linkin Park's album will definitely beat it. I've heard both albums... It's just my opinion, but Days Go By deserves to beat the living shit out of Living Things. Too bad that it won't.

Omni
06-20-2012, 02:31 PM
All I know is I'll be buying the record on the 26th on either CD or vinyl, and I'll eventually own it on both formats. I'll also probably buy it once or twice on CD for birthday presents for friends who also enjoy music. That's what I did with RaF,RaG.


By the way people, if you live in the US and don't own their Greatest Hits, or you know another fan who does not own Greatest Hits, you should buy that record over any other if you're going to purchase an Offspring album. It's only 16,000 units away from one million.

Also, sorry for the double post. I was just going to edit this part in, but the site hasn't been allowing me to edit for awhile now. Don't know what that's about.

Britpunk
06-20-2012, 02:34 PM
All I know is I'll be buying the record on the 26th on either CD or vinyl, and I'll eventually own it on both formats. I'll also probably buy it once or twice on CD for birthday presents for friends who also enjoy music. That's what I did with RaF,RaG.


By the way people, if you live in the US and don't own their Greatest Hits, or you know another fan who does not own Greatest Hits, you should buy that record over any other if you're going to purchase an Offspring album. It's only 16,000 units away from one million.

Also, sorry for the double post. I was just going to edit this part in, but the site hasn't been allowing me to edit for awhile now. Don't know what that's about.

Hi Omni,

Can I ask where you got that figure from? I've been trying to get accurate figures for a while

randman21
06-20-2012, 02:39 PM
Yeah.. the Offspring going Multi-Platinum. You should be a comedian.

But you realize selling 3 million worldwide isn't considered multi-platinum, yes? It's only if it were 3m in the US. But yeah, you're probably right that it won't sell that much. I have no idea what the average is for worldwide sales, or what RAFRAG sold worldwide. So 3 mil sounds pretty high, but attainable. Gold in the US, the same. But I think it can outsell RAFRAG.

Rooster
06-20-2012, 02:39 PM
It would be an achievement if it beats RAFRAG's sales. It is a better album, so it would deserve some recognition if you ask me :)

Omni
06-20-2012, 02:41 PM
It's been on Wikipedia now for some time, which does not necessarily means it's true of course. I remember that particular figure had a source at one time I checked out, but it's been gone for a really long time. The RaF,RaG figure of 329,000 is also on Wikipedia, and that one actually has a valid source.

As far as I know, the only way to get an accurate sales count is through Nielsen SoundScan. I've been thinking of getting a subscription to it for awhile now, but I don't know how much it costs or really how to go about it. A guy named Paul Grein does a weekly article called "Chart Watch" on Yahoo!, and he will take requests for album sales in the comment section and post the results of the select few he decides to look up. That's where most sales numbers of older albums with credible sources on Wikipedia come from. If you want to ask him the exact amount of Greatest Hits and confirm that for sure, maybe he'll answer you.

Omni
06-20-2012, 02:45 PM
It would be an achievement if it beats RAFRAG's sales. It is a better album, so it would deserve some recognition if you ask me :)

I just think it would be cool if they could squeeze out another Gold record before they retire.

vionline
06-20-2012, 02:47 PM
Linkin Park always sucked... since the beginning!

uashusahsa

offspringiztheshit
06-20-2012, 02:49 PM
not even. hybrid theory an meteora are great albums.

Greekoldfan
06-20-2012, 03:00 PM
count 2-3 copies on me . eu version, japanese version and vinyl too (if they press any)

Little_Miss_1565
06-20-2012, 03:04 PM
As far as I know, the only way to get an accurate sales count is through Nielsen SoundScan. I've been thinking of getting a subscription to it for awhile now, but I don't know how much it costs or really how to go about it.

A SoundScan account is spectacularly expensive - tens of thousands of dollars per year. It's basically designed to keep people who don't work in the music industry out.

Omni
06-20-2012, 03:10 PM
Thanks for clearing that up, I've wondered for the longest time, now. I wonder if there's another way to accurately look up album sales. I would make a request thread here if I ever found a way.

Degstur Lolland
06-20-2012, 03:15 PM
Linkin Park always sucked... since the beginning!

uashusahsa
Virgilio, what are your favourite bands?

oioufuaasoiosdf

DarrellOCguy
06-20-2012, 03:18 PM
^LOL ousasaiaisaiasia

killboybowerhead
06-20-2012, 06:13 PM
I hope they make some money. But a lot depends on the next single.. the picture painted from hammerhead is a bit different than dgb/cc. Slim Pickens reminds me of when I first heard you're gonna go far kid.

Count Orlok
06-21-2012, 05:59 AM
I gonna buy it tomorrow, but honestly I think it'll sell worse than RAFRAG.

Not too much people buying music + not too much people care for The Offspring nowadays...except for us, for sure ;)

TeddyBear_Army
06-21-2012, 07:29 PM
Linkin Park always sucked... since the beginning!

uashusahsa

Holy shit, I fucking hate you. Brazilian fat fuck, just go away. It's cause of shitheads like you that we brazilians get a bad reputation.
F U C K Y O U

uahauhsuhasuha my ass.

Greekoldfan
06-21-2012, 11:55 PM
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SICP-3500 this shop has sold out the japanese version before its release :))

Britpunk
06-22-2012, 11:15 AM
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SICP-3500 this shop has sold out the japanese version before its release :))

That's just the bundle with the sticker I think.

Dragnet
06-22-2012, 11:33 AM
Let's count in this thread so we don't have to rely on other sources.

I bought one copy today. So Noodles, your beer today is on me!

I honestly predict they will sell 30 billion music cassettes of this record.

Oxygene
06-22-2012, 12:34 PM
I remember when Ixnay sold 3 million and everyone was bummed at a what a fucking commercial flop that was :D

Degstur Lolland
06-22-2012, 01:40 PM
If we take only the USA, I think Ixnay is only Platinum. Smash is 6x and Americana 5x. So that is definitely interesting.

Sefalobe_theoffspring
06-22-2012, 05:41 PM
If we take only the USA, I think Ixnay is only Platinum. Smash is 6x and Americana 5x. So that is definitely interesting.

My predictions at the end of December: Status and Sales

Country Rank Sales Status
Argentina 15 12,400 -
Australia 3 70,000 Platinum
Belgium 7 15,000 Gold
Brazil 4 22,300 Gold
Canada 1 160,000 2x Platinum
Chile 21 3,900 -
Colombia 11 4,800 -
Denmark 3 20,000 Platinum
Finland 7 12,300 Gold
France 2 50,000 Gold
Germany 5 35,000 -
Italy 2 60,000 Platinum
Japan 1 (4W) 500,000 2x Platinum
Mexico 12 32,000 Gold
New Zealand 1 (5W) 45,000 3x Platinum
Norway 4 (2W) 15,000 Gold
Portugal 6 (3W) 10,000 Gold
Russia 1 (2W) 30,000 3x Platinum (Diamond)
Spain 8 16,500 -
Sweden 9 11,300 -
Switzerland 14 15,000 Gold
UK 15 60,000 Silver
USA 5 (7W) 620,000 Gold
Europe 13 1,000,000 Platinum


Itīs only predictions on sales. Donīt take seriously... Probably 7,000,000 Copies world wide or least about 4,900,000.

NoGuessing
06-22-2012, 06:13 PM
It's not going 3x platinum here. We have 4 million people, 45,000 is a massive proportion of the people who will actually be in the broadest target demographic (male and female ages 10-40). Especially considering piracy.

It's also not a very popular album atm. DGB got slammed by our only rock radio station (it still gets decent airplay) and isn't in the top 30, and CC is no where to be seen on any station.

Degstur Lolland
06-22-2012, 07:24 PM
My predictions at the end of December: Status and Sales

Country Rank Sales Status
Argentina 15 12,400 -
Australia 3 70,000 Platinum
Belgium 7 15,000 Gold
Brazil 4 22,300 Gold
Canada 1 160,000 2x Platinum
Chile 21 3,900 -
Colombia 11 4,800 -
Denmark 3 20,000 Platinum
Finland 7 12,300 Gold
France 2 50,000 Gold
Germany 5 35,000 -
Italy 2 60,000 Platinum
Japan 1 (4W) 500,000 2x Platinum
Mexico 12 32,000 Gold
New Zealand 1 (5W) 45,000 3x Platinum
Norway 4 (2W) 15,000 Gold
Portugal 6 (3W) 10,000 Gold
Russia 1 (2W) 30,000 3x Platinum (Diamond)
Spain 8 16,500 -
Sweden 9 11,300 -
Switzerland 14 15,000 Gold
UK 15 60,000 Silver
USA 5 (7W) 620,000 Gold
Europe 13 1,000,000 Platinum


Itīs only predictions on sales. Donīt take seriously... Probably 7,000,000 Copies world wide or least about 4,900,000.
LOL, 7 000 000, how would you get that? I guess you didn't include Africa, China and India.

Godxilla
06-22-2012, 07:40 PM
LOL, 7 000 000, how would you get that? I guess you didn't include Africa, China and India.

So....... all the Chinese, Indians, and Africans will be snapping up this album in droves? Really?
It gets about 500,000 here in the states and probably a million to three million more globally. CDs don't sell anymore, sadly.

Supa
06-22-2012, 07:49 PM
My predictions at the end of December: Status and Sales

Country Rank Sales Status
Argentina 15 12,400 -
Australia 3 70,000 Platinum
Belgium 7 15,000 Gold
Brazil 4 22,300 Gold
Canada 1 160,000 2x Platinum
Chile 21 3,900 -
Colombia 11 4,800 -
Denmark 3 20,000 Platinum
Finland 7 12,300 Gold
France 2 50,000 Gold
Germany 5 35,000 -
Italy 2 60,000 Platinum
Japan 1 (4W) 500,000 2x Platinum
Mexico 12 32,000 Gold
New Zealand 1 (5W) 45,000 3x Platinum
Norway 4 (2W) 15,000 Gold
Portugal 6 (3W) 10,000 Gold
Russia 1 (2W) 30,000 3x Platinum (Diamond)
Spain 8 16,500 -
Sweden 9 11,300 -
Switzerland 14 15,000 Gold
UK 15 60,000 Silver
USA 5 (7W) 620,000 Gold
Europe 13 1,000,000 Platinum


Itīs only predictions on sales. Donīt take seriously... Probably 7,000,000 Copies world wide or least about 4,900,000.


LOL, 7 000 000, how would you get that?

Probably from the same place you got your song predictions.

vionline
06-22-2012, 07:57 PM
oh God.. I love IXnay on the Hombre... i cant skip one song!

and when you know you cant go on cause everything
is wrong your heart breaks and no oneīs there

ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhh yeahhhhhh

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yeah if I make it I'd be amazed
Just to find tomorrow
One more day and I'd be amazed
Just to see it waiting
And if I make it I'm still alone
No more hope for better days
But if I could change
Then I'd really be amazed

this new album is crap!

TeddyBear_Army
06-22-2012, 08:16 PM
oh God.. I love IXnay on the Hombre... i cant skip one song!

and when you know you cant go on cause everything
is wrong your heart breaks and no oneīs there

ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhh yeahhhhhh

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Yeah if I make it I'd be amazed
Just to find tomorrow
One more day and I'd be amazed
Just to see it waiting
And if I make it I'm still alone
No more hope for better days
But if I could change
Then I'd really be amazed

this new album is crap!

Please, go away. Really.
You're entitled to have your opinion, not to be a jackass.

auhsuahuashuashusahusahasu.

vionline
06-22-2012, 08:17 PM
Please, go away. Really.
You're entitled to have your opinion, not to be a jackass.

auhsuahuashuashusahusahasu.


I love you Teddy bear!
Gimme a smile... and a kiss!

TeddyBear_Army
06-22-2012, 08:18 PM
I love you Teddy bear!
Gimme a smile... and a kiss!

When you fucking learn english, I will.

vionline
06-22-2012, 08:20 PM
When you fucking learn english, I will.

our flags are burning! our flags are burning!!

dont be mad!!! I love youuuuu Teddybear!! :o

in tehrannnnnnnnnn, in tehran, innnnnnnnnnnn tehrannnnnnnnnnnnnn!!

vionline
06-22-2012, 08:44 PM
Maximum of 10.000 copies worldwide!!

Degstur Lolland
06-22-2012, 10:47 PM
Probably from the same place you got your song predictions.
Good one.

I wonder if they know how many albums are pirated. We must find out.

bouncingcoles
06-22-2012, 11:56 PM
The album will not sell well in comparison to other albums on the charts. Thats my prediction. its unfortunate...

dav0147
06-23-2012, 01:02 AM
That new guy is just a shit jojan, not even funny.

Llamas
06-23-2012, 06:58 AM
Probably from the same place you got your song predictions.

Lol, nice ;)


That new guy is just a shit jojan, not even funny.

Actually more like TheJakes/iPunk. Jojan is way better than that.

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
06-23-2012, 12:30 PM
The new guy sucks. Maybe he'll stop if we just ignore him.

randman21
06-23-2012, 01:00 PM
The new guy sucks. Maybe he'll stop if we just ignore him.

I just find it funny that people hate him so much. He's a buffoon and not a very good troll.

Also, yes. I think you're on to something.

Also also, high five to Supa for that nice zinger.

Llamas
06-23-2012, 02:06 PM
I just find it funny that people hate him so much. He's a buffoon and not a very good troll.

Also, yes. I think you're on to something.

Also also, high five to Supa for that nice zinger.

This is all true!

weezly
06-23-2012, 02:46 PM
im going with 16 million copies, i believe there will be a downward trend in internet useage and youtubes popularity should decline to almost zero by 2013....among some of my other predictions
mc hammer and vanilla ice will stop, colaberate, and listen to create a new boy band.
man will land on the moon and pretty soon, they will build citys there for us to live in, kinda like big glass domes..
my last prediction for the year is john travolta prefers men over women.

Mechagodzilla2
06-23-2012, 06:19 PM
I remember when Ixnay sold 3 million and everyone was bummed at a what a fucking commercial flop that was :D

That's because everyone expected it to be Smash part 2.

Mechagodzilla2
06-23-2012, 06:37 PM
Maximum of 10.000 copies worldwide!!

Quit being that negative towards the band. This thread is for serious predictions, not pathetic jokes.

As for my prediction, I think it will probably reach 3 million worldwide by the end of the year.

Degstur Lolland
06-23-2012, 06:53 PM
Quit being that negative towards the band. This thread is for serious predictions, not pathetic jokes.

As for my prediction, I think it will probably reach 3 million worldwide by the end of the year.
What's your prediction for the USA?

TeddyBear_Army
06-23-2012, 06:59 PM
For realz, if this album sells more than 1m worldwide we should all be happy as fuck. Times are tough, man.
Sales are not an indicative of album quality, it bears repeating. We gotta be realistic, any album that sells 1m or more worldwide can be considered a HUGE hit.

Mechagodzilla2
06-23-2012, 07:21 PM
What's your prediction for the USA?

No more than 600,000 sales.

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
06-24-2012, 12:30 PM
I'm going to make an optimistic prediction with no foundation, that is still slightly realistic.

I think it's going to debut at #15 on the Billboard 200 (too hopeful?) with 40,000-45,000 units sold. By the end of the year, 140,000 units sold in the US, and 600,000 worldwide.

I'll buy the CD and LP to try and increase the amount of units sold :)

jacknife737
06-24-2012, 12:45 PM
RAFRAG was a top 10 debut: not unreasonable to assume this one will be as well.