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Epideme
07-02-2012, 03:38 AM
I've noticed in several places, that Kristy , are you doing ok? seems to get a lot of flak - in fact one reviewer wrote to the effect of apologising for it's existence. I am just curious, as to why was it so disliked? I quite like it, but i don't understand what is so objectionable about it (Cruisin' California is another issue - I see the problem there, regardless of my taste). Its not their usual style - but i doubt thats enough to garner quite the venom it seemed to have got...

Sara MZK
07-02-2012, 03:48 AM
I've often wondered that myself... I certainly don't love the song or anything... it's decent if nothing great, but it does strike me as odd why it's hated so much. Whereas like you say, the venom directed at Cruising California is definitely understandable.

Epideme? Are you a Red Dwarf fan? lol

Defender
07-02-2012, 04:17 AM
As I have said before, Kristy has grown on me after many listens and especially after I heard the live version. It took me much time but I like it now and I put it next to "Denial,Revisited"(I like this as well). It is out of their style but it's not a bad song. "Fix you" is worse. "Cruising California" is fast and I really like it much better than all of their slow songs(Kristy,Fix you,Why don't you get a job etc).

OC HAU
07-02-2012, 04:58 AM
Kristy is very similar to Job, but it's not as lush, they don't like to repeat themselves. I gave Kristy 10/10 right from the beginning.

BagOfShenanigans
07-02-2012, 06:44 AM
Some people will only accept Punk songs from a Punk band, and don't believe in one group producing anything other than what they began with.

Ignoramuses like that are what slows the progression of music.

Outerspaceman21
07-02-2012, 07:45 AM
Kristy is okay, not great, but okay. It's decently made music wise, nothing special, but it has a meaning. I'd take it over Cruising California any day just on lyrically meaning.

findout5
07-02-2012, 08:16 AM
It's "ballady" so it is prone to get more flak.
I'm not nuts about it at all, but it's acceptable.
Cruising California isn't.
Fix You seems to get a lot of flak as well, but I love that one.

Mark Rooster
07-02-2012, 08:20 AM
I've always liked this song. It's different, but still fits with the rest of that record. If it was a love song, it wouldn't be as interesting; the lyrics make up a lot of why that song works.

Chainsaw
07-02-2012, 08:39 AM
Ok, that's why I don't like it very much. It sounds like a cheesy love song. I know the meaning is different, but generally I don't focus on lyrics that much.

But, when RAFRAG came out I remember people mostly liking it. Has that changed over the years?

ThunderPX
07-02-2012, 09:52 AM
It was kind of an unexpectedly poppy song for them at the time. I've warmed up to it since, but I still think some of the lyrics are kind of lame. "Your eyes told the tale / of an act of betrayal / I knew that somebody did," really? They *did* an act of betrayal? Whatever, it's still a million times the song BUMPIN IN MAH TRUNK will ever be :P

Sara MZK
07-02-2012, 10:11 AM
It was kind of an unexpectedly poppy song for them at the time. I've warmed up to it since, but I still think some of the lyrics are kind of lame. "Your eyes told the tale / of an act of betrayal / I knew that somebody did," really? They *did* an act of betrayal? Whatever, it's still a million times the song BUMPIN IN MAH TRUNK will ever be :P

I agree, although "A Lot Like Me" was also unexpectedly poppy for them, and I loved that song instantly, and still love it now. I agree about the lyrics, although they are about a serious subject, I don't feel they have the impact that Dexter probably intended them to have... It's not terrible, but it's certainly not one of their best songs, though it is better than "Fix You". And yep, I'd also take it over Cruising California any day of the week! hehe :P

Mark Rooster
07-02-2012, 10:50 AM
It was kind of an unexpectedly poppy song for them at the time. I've warmed up to it since, but I still think some of the lyrics are kind of lame. "Your eyes told the tale / of an act of betrayal / I knew that somebody did," really? They *did* an act of betrayal? Whatever, it's still a million times the song BUMPIN IN MAH TRUNK will ever be :P


Well, you're definitely right about that "somebody did" line; it's a pretty lame way to rhyme something with "just kids."

chris9012
07-02-2012, 11:17 AM
If you don't want them to make anything that is not "Punk", or is to different from their "sound", just buy the Greatest Hits. It wont dissapoint you.

KTILLA23
07-02-2012, 02:37 PM
I actually enjoy Kristy very much, and i do respect why Dexter wrote the song. I don't know why, but like most people it has really grown on me.

Sara MZK
07-02-2012, 02:48 PM
I actually enjoy Kristy very much, and i do respect why Dexter wrote the song. I don't know why, but like most people it has really grown on me.

It grew on me too. It's not amongst my fave Offspring songs, and likely never will be. However, I really disliked the song initially. Over the years since I first got RAFRAG though, I have warmed to it. Unlike "Fix You", which I just don't think I will ever like...

samseby
07-03-2012, 10:27 AM
Actually one of my favorites; because it is so different (and meaningful). Still like the acoustic version best.

holland25
07-04-2012, 09:18 AM
I've loved Kristy ever since RAFRAG came out.

Llamas
07-04-2012, 01:14 PM
I don't dislike it because it's poppy - I like a lot of poppy music - but rather because it's bland and generic. Compared to their other songs, and punk bands in general, it's different; compared to music as a whole, it's some of the most boring, predictable stuff ever. Plus Dexter's voice is just not good in that song.

Epideme
07-06-2012, 05:15 AM
Epideme? Are you a Red Dwarf fan? lol

Indeed I am - I just outright stole the name - It always surprises me slightly when the username is taken, because very seldom does it get recognised, so good call!

Epideme
07-06-2012, 05:19 AM
It was kind of an unexpectedly poppy song for them at the time. I've warmed up to it since, but I still think some of the lyrics are kind of lame. "Your eyes told the tale / of an act of betrayal / I knew that somebody did," really? They *did* an act of betrayal? Whatever, it's still a million times the song BUMPIN IN MAH TRUNK will ever be :P

I see what you're saying, but it seems a little nitpicking to me, but i guess it depends what makes a song for you.
Whatever they write, it's got to be better than some of bono's lyrics 'Have you come here to play Jesus to the lepers in your head?' and 'I'll give you everything you want, except the thing that you want' strike as a particularly suspect pair of lines...

Epideme
07-06-2012, 05:22 AM
So the general consensus seems to be, because it was a bit of a surprise, and the lyrics crossed with dex's voice didn't impress. Though it seems to have grown on many people.

I actually loved RAFRAG, thought it was a really well made album, there wasn't a single song i'd want to skip on it.

Sara MZK
07-06-2012, 07:28 AM
Indeed I am - I just outright stole the name - It always surprises me slightly when the username is taken, because very seldom does it get recognised, so good call!

Haha, thought so! xD The 7th Series is actually pretty weak overall compared to the previous 6, Epideme was a great episode though! :)


So the general consensus seems to be, because it was a bit of a surprise, and the lyrics crossed with dex's voice didn't impress. Though it seems to have grown on many people.

I actually loved RAFRAG, thought it was a really well made album, there wasn't a single song i'd want to skip on it.

"A Lot Like Me" was actually more surprising to me musically than Kristy was, and that one was even more of a curveball for them. However, I loved that song right away, so I don't think it was the musical departure that made me feel indifferent towards Kristy. As for the album itself, I've definitely warmed more to it as an overall body of work in the time since I first got it. Though in terms of consistency, I still think it's not amongst their greatest albums.

Epideme
07-06-2012, 01:50 PM
Haha, thought so! xD The 7th Series is actually pretty weak overall compared to the previous 6, Epideme was a great episode though! :)

Yeh I agree - they are allegedly doing a 10th series... which is interesting due to their never being a 9th series.

Omni
07-06-2012, 04:11 PM
I personally thought K,AYDO was a highlight of the record. I was really pulling for it to be a single, and I was pleased when it was. It turned out to be a good gamble, reaching #7. I think it also made RaF,RaG reappear on the charts again for a week.

The thing I hate most about the Offspring's (or maybe Colombia's, whichever) promotional habits is they always have a lot of potential singles, but they only seem to release three or four per album. Maybe Little_Miss_1565 can further illuminate me on how single selection works, is it just not very cost-effective to release singles for some reason? More singles are bought than albums these days, it just make sense to me for a major-label band to release five or six singles per album now, especially since YGGF,K actually went Gold (I read somewhere that it's actually sold 1.6 million, which would make it an uncertified Platinum single, but I can't confirm that). I'm not in the biz, so I don't know.

Half-Truism was a pretty solid single choice, it surprised me that it only reached #21, but I think most people felt that Nothingtown or Takes Me Nowhere would have been a better fourth choice, or at least good candidates for a fifth choice.

Omni
07-06-2012, 04:13 PM
"A Lot Like Me" was actually more surprising to me musically than Kristy was, and that one was even more of a curveball for them. However, I loved that song right away, so I don't think it was the musical departure that made me feel indifferent towards Kristy.


I also thought A Lot Like Me would have been a good single. It's not very Offspringish, it kind of has a Linkin Park flavor to me, like "What I've Done." That song absolutely killed on the charts.

Sara MZK
07-06-2012, 04:34 PM
Yeh I agree - they are allegedly doing a 10th series... which is interesting due to their never being a 9th series.

Yep, I think they've counted the 3 part mini-series they did in 2009 ("Back To Earth") as the 9th series... I didn't think much to that to be honest. Certainly in comparison to the first 6 series', it wasn't that good. I hope the 10th series goes back to it's roots. Doug Naylor really needs to tap into the creative genius that made the first 6 series' so great and so hilarious.


Half-Truism was a pretty solid single choice, it surprised me that it only reached #21, but I think most people felt that Nothingtown or Takes Me Nowhere would have been a better fourth choice, or at least good candidates for a fifth choice.

From a purely commercial standpoint, I think "Nothingtown" or "Takes Me Nowhere" would have been better single choices than "Half Truism".


I also thought A Lot Like Me would have been a good single. It's not very Offspringish, it kind of has a Linkin Park flavor to me, like "What I've Done." That song absolutely killed on the charts.

I don't really know much about Linkin Park, so I can't really comment on that comparison. But you're right, it's not very Offspring-ish at all. However, musically, out of all the songs on the album, I think that one would have been the most likely to be a commercial hit. So it is baffling to me why it wasn't released as a single... lol :confused:

Epideme
07-09-2012, 04:34 PM
See I found Half-Truism an obvious choice for a single, very much arena rock style. And definitely well pieced together. Nothingtown i found one of the more forgettable tracks, not bad by any stretch, just not as good as the rest of an album that really impressed me. Thoguh Takes Me Nowhere I'm surprised didn't get a look in. Did Stuff is Messed up get a release or just a video in the end?

Re: Red Dwarf - well the interview i read, apparently doug naylor said he'd be interested in doing a 10th series, but not a 9th - this was post BTE (which i agree with you on, it made me chuckle, but not up to usual RD standards - and really could've done without the whole 4th wall breaking - which sadly made up most of it)... So shrugs, god only knows whats happening now...

cool 2 hate 681
07-09-2012, 08:17 PM
i think they should cut this song from the setlist and replace it with dirty magic it would probably get the same reaction live