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Godxilla
07-14-2012, 06:38 PM
After a long night of listening to Days Go By, I have begun to notice that Dirty Magic is awfully similar to Have You Ever. Especially the chorus. Have You Ever just seems like a sped up version of Dirty Magic, in the chorus alone. Does anybody else see that?

GamerKT
07-14-2012, 06:46 PM
I tried this.


http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 D9ZX7cWu8Npo&start1=&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D WXTTfgu5prY&start2=&authorName=meahwahwah



Not at all...

Lupin
07-14-2012, 07:21 PM
Dirty MAgic and Vultures...have also seemed like similar bed fellows.

Scythe Death
07-14-2012, 07:30 PM
The vocal melodies are identical now that you mention it. They both also happen to be some of my all-time favorite The Offspring songs. I never noticed though. lol

ThunderPX
07-14-2012, 08:14 PM
After a long night of standing outside, I have begun to notice that when it rains, you get wet.

KTILLA23
07-14-2012, 11:31 PM
I really don't think they sound alike, but like somebody else said Dirty Magic sounds a lot more like Vultures.

malepunker
07-15-2012, 01:27 AM
Totally. Specially the chorus like you said.

Sing these small parts and you get it easily.

I hate you so
Love you more
I'm so elastic
Things you say
Games you play
Dirty magic

Someday my soul's confined
And out of mind
Sleep forever
Someday I'll get it straight
But not today
Have you ever


Both songs are great though. In fact, I totally don't mind when a band "sounds like themselfs". Actually, it's got to do with something I'd been thinking some time ago. Artists in general should tottally revisit their old stuff and try to extract something better/different from them. I believe reworking stuff works great for art... you can always do better. You can also realize that with some Dexter and Noodles interviews, when they say that a record is never finished, just abandoned.

Godxilla
07-15-2012, 07:09 AM
I tried this.


http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 D9ZX7cWu8Npo&start1=&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D WXTTfgu5prY&start2=&authorName=meahwahwah



Not at all...
Well that's just absurd.


Dirty MAgic and Vultures...have also seemed like similar bed fellows.
yup, I noticed that as well.

After a long night of standing outside, I have begun to notice that when it rains, you get wet.
Dude. Even if it's obvious to you, you don't have to be a dick about saying so.

Totally. Specially the chorus like you said.

Sing these small parts and you get it easily.

I hate you so
Love you more
I'm so elastic
Things you say
Games you play
Dirty magic

Someday my soul's confined
And out of mind
Sleep forever
Someday I'll get it straight
But not today
Have you ever


Both songs are great though. In fact, I totally don't mind when a band "sounds like themselfs". Actually, it's got to do with something I'd been thinking some time ago. Artists in general should tottally revisit their old stuff and try to extract something better/different from them. I believe reworking stuff works great for art... you can always do better. You can also realize that with some Dexter and Noodles interviews, when they say that a record is never finished, just abandoned.

That's interesting indeed.

Llamas
07-15-2012, 08:12 AM
I thought this had been established ages ago, and that everyone knew this. Huh. Well yes, the melodies of both choruses are very, very similiar. I dunno what else to say about that :P It doesn't bother me, especially since the rest of the songs are very different.


After a long night of standing outside, I have begun to notice that when it rains, you get wet.

<3

Eskimo
07-16-2012, 02:05 AM
And like a quarter of Nine Inch Nails song use the exact same little melodies. Who gives a fuck?

It's The Offspring. They operate in a way that they're going to run out of notes and progressions pretty quickly, recycling stuff is going to happen.

Luzodar
05-24-2016, 01:31 PM
For anyone who wants a (messy) side-by-side comparison between "Dirty Magic" and "Vultures":
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv% 3D9ZX7cWu8Npo&start1=&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 DgsF5auuEi84&start2=&authorName=Offspring

Fun fact, in an interview with Dotmusic from 2000 Noodles said the following about "Vultures":
"'Vultures' is another of my favourite songs on this record, and strangely it's a lot slower than the kind of song I normally like. Parts of this were written back when we wrote 'Ignition' [the band's second album, released in 1992]. For me, this song is about somebody who thinks he's losing his mind in a relationship - if things aren't going well, he thinks he's going crazy. I know I've been in relationships where I've been thinking: 'Is it me? Am I just totally crazy? What's going on - somebody please tell me I'm okay!'"

Mega Man
05-25-2016, 07:03 PM
Nice quote from Noodles, never knew that. Never really found Vultures too similar to Dirty Magic, though I'm guessing it was similar enough to warrant leaving it to another album. It's about as similar to Dirty Magic as Self Esteem is to Smells Like Teen Spirit. Some people swear they're the same, but I just don't see it.