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AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-12-2012, 05:11 PM
but ex tried to talk to me some 7 months ago in January. Due to the nastiness of our breakup, I can't say much more since both of us really try to not even look at each other and don't anything about each other for 2 years

Anyway, she tries to talk to me in January and continued on for about 3 months, coming on pretty strong even thought there was not contact for more than a year. I ignored her and brushed it off as bull****. But see, the thing is, she used to be below average looking. I'd rate her about 4/10 2 years ago. Now she has actually improved a lot. I wouldn't say 10/10 hot that melts through metal but I would say somewhere along the lines of 8/10.

Now the deal is lust. I never lusted after her when we were dating or after the breakup because she wasn't that good looking. But now, all I wanna do is just shag her and pardon the bluntness but it is better to be honest so people will respond appropriately. I sort of regret not reestablishing communication with her when she tried to initiate communication. Now, she has a new bf(she left the guy she left me for-if that makes sense) and I really want to know how exactly do I get back with her. I also want to make clear that I'm OVER her. There are no feelings involved. This is all really just for the sex.

Now, I really don't want jokes about this. Actually, we can all joke once people have voiced in their serious opinions. Help out your fellow Offspring fan, Allin All It's Not So Bad.

Little_Miss_1565
09-12-2012, 05:34 PM
and I really want to know how exactly do I get back with her. I also want to make clear that I'm OVER her. There are no feelings involved. This is all really just for the sex.

My serious opinion is that you seem to be 100% unconcerned with what type of involvement SHE might want with YOU.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-12-2012, 06:22 PM
And you are right. Not to mention idk her intentions either when she tried to establish communication. Maybe it was to just be friends. Maybe she just wanted comfort sex because she did start talking to me right before she broke up with the guy she was with in January. Maybe she wanted to give it another go at a relationship that she destroyed. For all you know she could have wanted the same thing as I want right now and she couldn't have given less of a fuck about my well being.

Whether she deserves the hurt of being used for sex is not an important issue. But she, and no one, shouldn't be surprised of being used for sex when she has played every single guy she dated. For example, I was the other guy in her 9 month relationship. She left this guy named Spencer for me and did the same thing to me. Then did the same thing to the guy she left me for. And she has continued this vicious cycle of going out with someone then finding another man and fucking them. Then leaving the current bf for "the other guy." It's been so long after our brake up that I have no intentions of revenge, hate, or annoyance. Like I said, no feelings. This is just lust. I fuck her and if she hurts, she hurts. No hard feelings from me or hate. In fact I wish she could heal herself of all her problems but a shag is just a shag because she improved physically. And come on, everyone at least one point in their lives has had meaningless sex or wanted to with a stranger or an ex just because they look good. A bit shallow, but what can you expect when the kind of person that would like to fuck like that is also shallow.

Godxilla
09-12-2012, 06:49 PM
If it'll make you happy, go for it. If it'll make her happy, perhaps you shouldn't. Just go for what makes you feel right.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-12-2012, 07:04 PM
Godzilla, thank you for your input. However, the question isn't whether I should or not. The question is how

"I really want to know how exactly do I get back with her."

See, like I mentioned in the original post, she tried to restablish a connection but I blew it off. She talked to me then(like I said, coming on pretty strong), now she doesn't. Obviously I have to talk to her first but when I do that, how should I do it. Like what approach, attitude, or words are the right ones for me to be successful.

WebDudette
09-12-2012, 08:55 PM
Tell her that you want to bone down, that's all I could reccomend with a good conscience. Even still, if you guys went through with it, you'd be enabling her to hurt her new boyfriend the same way you were hurt. Anyway you approach it, it sounds like it's going to end in a huge mess.

Defender
09-13-2012, 02:08 AM
Forget her. There's no need to give a fuck about her & complicate matters.

Llamas
09-13-2012, 02:47 AM
This is all sorts of messed up. I thought it was weird, and then I noticed she has a boyfriend. Now it's just wrong. She has a boyfriend, and you just want to fuck her. Get over it, find a single girl you haven't dated to fuck.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-13-2012, 08:43 AM
She has a boyfriend

She also had a boyfriend when she approached me in January, OH wait, and when we first dated. Not my fault I decided to act now. No need to get moral preachy.

Edit: Actually it was more like 3 days before they broke up that she approached me but the point is: she still had a bf.

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 08:57 AM
Go out and meet someone new. Bury the past or it can bury you. Move on.

Harleyquiiinn
09-13-2012, 10:33 AM
I actually agree with MOTO. And Llamas. And Defender.

Either you are not over her and trying to have sex with her would not make things better.

Either you are and you just want revenge and this is completely unproductive.

Clearly, she is not the only hot girl in your world, is she ?

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 10:44 AM
She also had a boyfriend when she approached me in January, OH wait, and when we first dated. Not my fault I decided to act now. No need to get moral preachy.

Edit: Actually it was more like 3 days before they broke up that she approached me but the point is: she still had a bf.

it is actually your fault you decided to act now. You're trying to justify your unethical desires by placing the blame on her, which is really creepy.


Either you are and you just want revenge and this is completely unproductive.

Yep.

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 12:35 PM
This is pretty obvious on HOW to get the sex:
Step 1. Reply to her the next time she talks to you
Step 2. She'll get excited that you're finally back, and will want more contact. Invite her to a bar.
Step 3. Get so fuckin drunk you can't even stand.
Step 4. Fuck her. Simple.
Is this possible in your opinion?
If it isn't, get over her and google the name of some supermodel.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 12:38 PM
You know that's rape, right Godxilla?

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 12:39 PM
Not if she expresses consent.

_Lost_
09-13-2012, 12:47 PM
If she is so drunk that she can't properly make decisions, she can't really express consent.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 12:58 PM
Indeed. By law, if you're out of your mind drunk, you can't consent.

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 01:22 PM
You know that's rape, right Godxilla?

I do not think he was being 100% serious. Had he been trying to be serious, it would have read the follwing...

Step 3: Tell her you are MOTO13

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 01:30 PM
I certainly hope he wasn't being serious, but something tells me he was.

Llamas
09-13-2012, 01:30 PM
She also had a boyfriend when she approached me in January, OH wait, and when we first dated. Not my fault I decided to act now. No need to get moral preachy.

Edit: Actually it was more like 3 days before they broke up that she approached me but the point is: she still had a bf.

I didn't say she was some innocent victim in this. However, that doesn't make your intentions any better. Plus, the fact that you're worried about making it clear that you just wanna fuck her leads me to believe that she might want something more. So that's also shady. And "Not my fault" followed with the pronoun "I" is usually not very logical. Yes, it's your fault that you decided to act now. Also, doesn't sound like she approached you and asked you for sex.


Step 3. Get so fuckin drunk you can't even stand.

Guys, relax... he clearly said that allin all should get so drunk that HE can't stand. I don't see how this is a good solution to his problem, but it's definitely not rape.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 01:33 PM
If that's the case and not a typo, clearly Godxilla should let us know what men he's been having sex with after a long night of drinking, because whiskey dick is for real.

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 01:38 PM
If she is so drunk that she can't properly make decisions, she can't really express consent.

People really need to lighten up...my god. I never read that into his post at all. Stop trying to villainize him

You are assuming that sober girls are capable of making proper decisions...reminds me of the whole bigfoot/sasquatch theory... so this argument can go right in the shitter anyway.

Outerspaceman21
09-13-2012, 01:47 PM
If you're that desperate to get laid, just do what everyone else does; Craigslist


But in all seriousness, it sounds like you need to move onto someone else. If she's with another dude, let it be. If you try to get with her now, you're probably gonna break up their relationship, which is what happened to you (assuming that is what happened to you, based on what you said already). You should just forgot her, go out and meet new women to have meaningless sex with.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 01:50 PM
People really need to lighten up...my god. I never read that into his post at all. Stop trying to villainize him

You are assuming that sober girls are capable of making proper decisions...reminds me of the whole bigfoot/sasquatch theory... so this argument can go right in the shitter anyway.

Hang on...so, describing a step by step guide for date rape is reading into it that he is suggesting date rape? And then a little misogyny thrown in at the end there to boot. Seriously, fuck this entire forum.

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 01:59 PM
Well, you were talking about gay sex and whiskey dick...are you familiar with either one? Ahhhhhhhh, it's a good day to be a man.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 02:02 PM
Yes, I have seen gay pornography, and I have had sex with men. In my vagina. Sometimes after going to a bar. And I'm not ashamed of any of this, though clearly you think I should be.

If it wasn't for date rape, would you ever get laid?

Llamas
09-13-2012, 02:11 PM
Seriously, fuck this entire forum.
This is basically how I've been feeling about this place for a few months... I've been posting less and less with these people around...


If it wasn't for date rape, would you ever get laid?
He seriously used to IM me on AIM a few years ago when I was living in Wisconsin and hit on me/invite me over. I highly doubt he ever gets laid with a woman's conscious choice.

Llamas
09-13-2012, 02:12 PM
Well, you were talking about gay sex and whiskey dick...are you familiar with either one? Ahhhhhhhh, it's a good day to be a man.

I can understand why you'd be glad to be a man, because a man is the only sex who can experience gay sex. Though I'm guessing you also only get guys to fuck you by getting them super drunk first.

Lizardus
09-13-2012, 02:21 PM
Stop trying to villainize him


The good part is that he does that on his own. Everyone else is just pointing it out.

_Lost_
09-13-2012, 02:24 PM
Maybe this is a more appropriate place to post dff_punk's ass rape lyrics?

Llamas
09-13-2012, 02:27 PM
Lots of threads here lately are becoming about gay sex. I hope Moto and Godxilla aren't getting *too* turned on by all this.

Lizardus
09-13-2012, 02:28 PM
I can understand why you'd be glad to be a man, because a man is the only sex who can experience gay sex. Though I'm guessing you also only get guys to fuck you by getting them super drunk first.

I bet moto knows a gay bar where you can get some good roofies.

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 02:30 PM
Yes, I have seen gay pornography, and I have had sex with men. In my vagina. Sometimes after going to a bar. And I'm not ashamed of any of this, though clearly you think I should be.

If it wasn't for date rape, would you ever get laid?

No, not at all, I never said you should be ashamed of anything. And...is this just your clever, coy way of asking me out?

Also, I have a good sense of humor, but as a general rule I do not find joking about rape especially humorous. I did not see that post of Godzilla's in that vain at all. I think we can drop the whole rape deal.

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 02:42 PM
This is basically how I've been feeling about this place for a few months... I've been posting less and less with these people around...

He seriously used to IM me on AIM a few years ago when I was living in Wisconsin and hit on me/invite me over. I highly doubt he ever gets laid with a woman's conscious choice.

Lol...who are you? Ok..sure I did. Post it. Just one PM. We'll wait...post one.

MOTO say man who talk out of ass have shit for brains.

Tiny Vessels
09-13-2012, 03:06 PM
MOTO say man who talk out of ass have shit for brains.


Wait, aren't you talking about yourself here?? I'm glad you can admit that, but its a little mean to say that about yourself.

Lizardus
09-13-2012, 03:09 PM
Admitting you have a problem is the first step towards recovery.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-13-2012, 03:10 PM
it is actually your fault you decided to act now. You're trying to justify your unethical desires by placing the blame on her, which is really creepy.


Now that you and llamas point it out, it is my fault for acting now and letting go of such golden opportunity. However, don't acuse me of placing blame on people when I never explicitly said it or implied it. Just because I use the word "fault" doesn't mean I'm placing it on someone. My bad for not being able to say that I was stupid enough to let go of the opportunity correctly and not-confusingly.


This is pretty obvious on HOW to get the sex:
Step 1. Reply to her the next time she talks to you
Step 2. She'll get excited that you're finally back, and will want more contact. Invite her to a bar.
Step 3. Get so fuckin drunk you can't even stand.
Step 4. Fuck her. Simple.
Is this possible in your opinion?
If it isn't, get over her and google the name of some supermodel.

That's fucking retarded. What makes you think I would get so low as to get her drunk. There really has to be something more intelligent and efficient coming from you.


I didn't say she was some innocent victim in this. However, that doesn't make your intentions any better. Plus, the fact that you're worried about making it clear that you just wanna fuck her leads me to believe that she might want something more. So that's also shady. And "Not my fault" followed with the pronoun "I" is usually not very logical. Yes, it's your fault that you decided to act now. Also, doesn't sound like she approached you and asked you for sex.

Did you know that I don't even know what she wants or what she wanted? Like I mentioned earlier, she could have wanted many different scenarios. And see, the thing is that I don't even care what she wants. Let's pretend that there are different outcomes of our would-be talks.

1) Wants to give the relationship another go: Talks to me some days before breaking up with her bf after a year of no communication and constant looks. Continues to try and communicate...then that means she's either feeling lonely and wants to use me to get over the breakup or regretted leaving me and legit wants to try again. To me, the former is most likely. I would fuck her until she or I gets bored and then life continues. If she gets hurt...so what?

2) Wants sex because no she doesn't have anyone to fuck her: I could be that guy. If that's the case, then we fuck and the relation could go 2 ways. Back to dating or FWB. If she gets hurt...so what?

3) Wants attention: If she wants it, then I should have given it to her and try to push for sex. We fuck and if she hurts, so fucking what?

4) Wants to be friends: While it is a possibility, I don't think it was very probably since she also talked about me to our mutual friends with shit like, "he's a good guy," "he used to be so sweet," "I regret the way things went down." But then again, the possibility of being friends is still there. So if she wants to be friends-ah fuck it why would I even try to fuck her when she just wants to be friends. So there, if 4 happens, nothing happens. Happy?


But in all seriousness, it sounds like you need to move onto someone else. If she's with another dude, let it be. If you try to get with her now, you're probably gonna break up their relationship, which is what happened to you (assuming that is what happened to you, based on what you said already). You should just forgot her, go out and meet new women to have meaningless sex with.

People...please stop talking like if I had any feelings for her left. This is just lust. And I don't want a relationship with her because I know it will be meaningless. It will only end the same way and the cycle repeats again. So any effort to fuck her really is just fun and when I'm tired of her I leave. Which really now leaves me wondering: If she plays this game and will continue to cheat on guys, why would anyone care if she hurts. She sure as hell doesn't care who she steps on. I know you guys are wondering "why is he so fixated on this girl?" Well, it's because I completely let an opportunity Pass Me By (TrololololololFace). But really though, I hate it when I don't take action and let things fly.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 03:11 PM
No, not at all, I never said you should be ashamed of anything. And...is this just your clever, coy way of asking me out?

Also, I have a good sense of humor, but as a general rule I do not find joking about rape especially humorous. I did not see that post of Godzilla's in that vain at all. I think we can drop the whole rape deal.

Oh, of course, you are the sole arbiter of appropriate and inappropriate behavior, and all women secretly want you.

If you don't think rape is funny, I would think that someone posting a step by step how-to in a thread where someone is asking for inethical advice would qualify as not funny, rather than "you hysterical women are just getting up in arms over nothing, and you should believe me because I do not think rape jokes are funny."

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 03:35 PM
Ok..this has gotten wayyy off track. But in my efforts to be the voice of reason, I will try to correct it. Rape jokes are not funny...rape is not funny. What was posted, IN MY OPINION, was not a rape joke at all. It was a step by step synopsis on what occaisionally happens at bars. You admitted you did it. That my dear, is not rape. Rape is sex against ones will. Never once was it stated in his scenario. Just because you infer it does not make it fact.

Stop acting like a victim. You're not.

Harleyquiiinn
09-13-2012, 03:47 PM
Godxilla said "get so drunk that you can't stand", Not "get HER so drunk" ...

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 03:54 PM
People really need to lighten up...my god. I never read that into his post at all. Stop trying to villainize him

You are assuming that sober girls are capable of making proper decisions...reminds me of the whole bigfoot/sasquatch theory... so this argument can go right in the shitter anyway.
I love your attitude, MOTO. I really do.

Yes, I have seen gay pornography, and I have had sex with men. In my vagina. Sometimes after going to a bar. And I'm not ashamed of any of this, though clearly you think I should be.

If it wasn't for date rape, would you ever get laid?

I feel sorry for those men.
Furthermore, allinall, may I mention that I never said she needed to get drunk. I said HE needed to get drunk. And since you believe that I have better advice in me, I shall. You need to still follow steps one and two, but replace "bar" with "club". Then, tell her the truth: that is, you think she's so much hotter. Then, procede to reminice about good times. Remind her she's hot. Then, make your move. If she resists, give it the fuck up and just google "Miranda Kerr". Then consider it done.

And none of us like rape jokes. Just as the Devil - uh, I mean Mecha.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 03:57 PM
Then clearly Godzilla is unfamiliar with the effects of being sloppy drunk both on erections and on being a total turnoff to ladies.

Moto, I said being out of your mind drunk, the sort of drunk where you can't stand and won't remember things later, makes it rape. Not having a few drinks on a date.

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 03:59 PM
Not if she expresses consent.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 04:02 PM
Again. If she is that drunk, even if she slurs something that might sound like a yes, it's not consent. Kind of like how you can't drug someone and then have sex with them and say she consented. And if you're that desperate for sex, you might as well just pay someone for it and cut out the rape part.

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 04:05 PM
Sarah, HE is drunk. She is only as buzzed as she wants to. Read my post again.

MOTO13
09-13-2012, 04:10 PM
Again. If she is that drunk, even if she slurs something that might sound like a yes, it's not consent. Kind of like how you can't drug someone and then have sex with them and say she consented. And if you're that desperate for sex, you might as well just pay someone for it and cut out the rape part.

What if you are unsure if she is slurring or simply has a speech impediment? What exactly is the protocol?

Now you are advocating prostitution...you are full of good thoughts aren't you.

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 04:15 PM
Actually, that's not a bad idea! Just ask her if she'll trade a buck for a fuck, and then get down. Thanks, lilmiss1565!

_Lost_
09-13-2012, 04:56 PM
You ever tried to have sex with a drunk guy? Me either. Not attractive and generally a pointless waste of time. One night stands are usually unsatisfactory, but how about we up the ante and render the guy completely useless?

Lizardus
09-13-2012, 04:57 PM
What if you are unsure if she is slurring or simply has a speech impediment? What exactly is the protocol?

Same diff'.



Now you are advocating prostitution...you are full of good thoughts aren't you.
Prostitution is still more legal than rape and, depending on where you live, it's also a sanctioned form on labor and a consensual form of intercourse.

Outerspaceman21
09-13-2012, 06:02 PM
People...please stop talking like if I had any feelings for her left. This is just lust. And I don't want a relationship with her because I know it will be meaningless. It will only end the same way and the cycle repeats again. So any effort to fuck her really is just fun and when I'm tired of her I leave. Which really now leaves me wondering: If she plays this game and will continue to cheat on guys, why would anyone care if she hurts. She sure as hell doesn't care who she steps on. I know you guys are wondering "why is he so fixated on this girl?" Well, it's because I completely let an opportunity Pass Me By (TrololololololFace). But really though, I hate it when I don't take action and let things fly.

I wasn't inferring that you had feelings for her. Based on what you said, she seems pretty unattainable unless your intentions are to break up their relationship so you can fuck her, which in all honesty is kind of a dick move, not to her, but to her present boyfriend. Sure, it's more than likely she will dump him sooner or later, but you don't have to be the one that instigates that. All I'm saying is forget about her and go find someone else to lust after since that's all you want. Or, better yet, wait patiently for the possible (maybe inevitable) demise of this relationship and make your move then.

_Lost_
09-13-2012, 06:58 PM
AllIn All's internet persona is an insufferable prick. Trying to talk reason with him will get you nowhere fast.

Everybody knows that the simple answer to his question is to approach her and say, "Hey, wanna fuck with no strings attached?" However, his approach to this thread is intended to incite responses just like the ones he has gotten.

Godxilla, I highly encourage you to get shit faced and then try to get yourself off, then let us know how that goes for you.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-13-2012, 07:15 PM
AllIn All's internet persona is an insufferable prick. Trying to talk reason with him will get you nowhere fast.

Well shit. Have you read everyone else reason. See, when you are want to accomplish something and want advice on how to do it, you favor advice that gets you somewhere and that is at least detailed. The ONLY person who has given good advice is Pilz-E or whatever his new name is. And mecha's second answer is slight variation of Pilz-E so i guess it counts. Everyone else is advising not to do it. WTF??? Not doing anything isn't going to accomplish my goal. Not doing anything isn't going to accomplish whatever goals you have. Geezus

Now that I'm reading some other responses, Outerspanceman also has good advice. However, I'm too impatient to wait for the breakup.

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 07:20 PM
Well shit. Have you read everyone else reason. See, when you are want to accomplish something and want advice on how to do it, you favor advice that gets you somewhere and that is at least detailed. The ONLY person who has given good advice is Pilz-E or whatever his new name is. And mecha's second answer is slight variation of Pilz-E so i guess it counts. Everyone else is advising not to do it. WTF??? Not doing anything isn't going to accomplish my goal. Not doing anything isn't going to accomplish whatever goals you have. Geezus

Now that I'm reading some other responses, Outerspanceman also has good advice. However, I'm too impatient to wait for the breakup.

Don't be Sarah. I'm not mecha.
And to Lost: as the Dropkick Murphys once said, and I highly suggest you listen: "Kiss me I'm shitfaced!"

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-13-2012, 07:26 PM
My bad mate. I even get sidewinder confused with Pilz-E sometimes. I thoght Deugster Lolland was alcoholic for a while

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 07:32 PM
No hard feelings, comrade. Anyone whose location is a Gulag appeals to Spetsnaz, the late warrior of Russia who was slaughtered in the Battle of Mecha. Who just so happens to be me.

WebDudette
09-13-2012, 07:34 PM
I skimmed this thread, I think I got everything.

Lost; how can you know it's pointless if you've never tried! For the record, I have masturbated completely shitfaced on multiple occasions, sometimes it's a chore, sometimes it's pretty easy. Still, I wouldn't want to have wasted sex.

It never even crossed my mind that Godxilla was talking about getting her to drunk to stand or implying rape. I think he was implying it'd be easier for All in all to make a move if he were drunk/he wouldn't be thinking of the repercussions. I'm not saying it's good advice, in fact it's terrible advice. Still, it's certainly not directions for rape.

MOTO is nothing like how I remember wishomie, but that was a long time ago.

All in All, tell her you want to fuck her, or don't. It'd be pretty shotty of you to go through with it on account of he other guy, but his feelings are not your responsibility. Basically, just make sure you and she are on the same page.

Godxilla
09-13-2012, 07:37 PM
For the first time ever, I agree with Pilz-e.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 07:40 PM
Pilz, I did acknowledge I misread it to the others who pointed it out, but then others kept insisting that it's somehow not rape to have sex with someone who's blackout drunk. The feelings of others about the actions you willingly choose to take are only not your responsibility if you're ethically bankrupt, yo.


Well shit. Have you read everyone else reason. See, when you are want to accomplish something and want advice on how to do it, you favor advice that gets you somewhere and that is at least detailed. The ONLY person who has given good advice is Pilz-E or whatever his new name is. And mecha's second answer is slight variation of Pilz-E so i guess it counts. Everyone else is advising not to do it. WTF??? Not doing anything isn't going to accomplish my goal. Not doing anything isn't going to accomplish whatever goals you have. Geezus

Now that I'm reading some other responses, Outerspanceman also has good advice. However, I'm too impatient to wait for the breakup.

Shit or get off the pot, dude. Tell her you want to fuck and see if she's down, or don't. But asking for advice on how to manipulate her into getting your revenge is pretty gross.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-13-2012, 07:48 PM
But asking for advice on how to manipulate her into getting your revenge is pretty gross.

First, this isn't revenge. I'm not fucking her and then fucking three other women behind her back. Second, how come i have to...play by the rules...when she doesn't?????????? The world revolves around manipulation, unfortunately. Yes, straight up telling asking her if she wants to fuck is better advice than "HEY MAN DONT DOIT LET IT GO". However, a little manipulation if any one wants to help out here. I think it was llamas that said to go find some other single chick to fuck...see, that's easy. Any guy (or girl for that matter) can go find a fuck for one night or even whip up a FWB thing with someone but knowing how to handle a problem like mine takes ease. With poise and rationality lololololololololol.

EDIT: If any other advice doesn't surface then I will follow Sidewinders advice.

WebDudette
09-13-2012, 07:59 PM
The feelings of others about the actions you willingly choose to take are only not your responsibility if you're ethically bankrupt, yo.

It's super shitty and it's not something I'd ever do. I agree that it's unethical and hopefully nothing happens.

All in All, anyone who thought you were doing it for revenge DEFINITELY thinks you are doing it for revenge now. I'm pretty sure that last post would qualify for admittance to guilt in a court.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-13-2012, 08:51 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=revenge&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=1&tok=JVCDdYm_ZA5e05ddFsaYmQ&pq=revenge&cp=11&gs_id=na&xhr=t&q=revenge+meaning&pf=p&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Vth&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&oq=revenge+mea&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=2f3cf7745a05d274&biw=1366&bih=611

I'm not looking for revenge. My goal isn't to hurt her. It is to fuck her. But whatever floats peoples boats

KickHimWhenHe'sDown
09-13-2012, 09:06 PM
Now you are advocating prostitution...you are full of good thoughts aren't you.
I often agree with you and often disagree, but I've always liked you. This just reinforced that.

I might as well give my advice AllIn All, not that I have any experience whatsoever. If she was the kind of girl to cheat on you when you were with her, she probably also has an empty ethical piggy bank (or whatever LM1565 said). I think you'd be safe to make your intentions somewhat clear and she sounds like she might go for it. Of course you should pretend to show interest in her to at least make yourself seem attractive. Keep in mind that this is the worst advice I have ever given in my life. It's a really stupid plan but you seem like you'd be willing to execute it. No offense.

EDIT: I re-read what I wrote. This is such a bad idea. Go fall in love or something. I can't help but be somewhat preachy.

Little_Miss_1565
09-13-2012, 09:40 PM
Wow, AllIn has just reached entirely new levels of creepy.

Tiny Vessels
09-13-2012, 10:05 PM
Don't be Sarah. I'm not mecha.
And to Lost: as the Dropkick Murphys once said, and I highly suggest you listen: "Kiss me I'm shitfaced!"

That is a good song especially for St.Patty's day.

_Lost_
09-13-2012, 10:13 PM
Perhaps I should rephrase...

Have you ever sought out sex with a drunk guy? Me either. I've had it. Not attractive and generally pointless. The clitoris is an enigma as it is, so why would I want the added challenge of loss in fine motor functions?

WebDudette
09-13-2012, 10:25 PM
I sought out sex with myself when I was drunk, does that count? My penis is pretty easy to find, even hammered.

_Lost_
09-13-2012, 10:33 PM
I'm inclined to say it doesn't... Generally speaking you know exactly what makes your dick tick... all the right buttons to push. So, even drunk, its like second nature to you, since you've had all those years of practice.

Outerspaceman21
09-13-2012, 10:39 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=revenge&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=1&tok=JVCDdYm_ZA5e05ddFsaYmQ&pq=revenge&cp=11&gs_id=na&xhr=t&q=revenge+meaning&pf=p&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Vth&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&oq=revenge+mea&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=2f3cf7745a05d274&biw=1366&bih=611

I'm not looking for revenge. My goal isn't to hurt her. It is to fuck her. But whatever floats peoples boats

Ok, let me get this straight. You don't want revenge, nor is it your goal to hurt her, your just want to manipulate her (even in the smallest way) into having sex with you, but you don't expect her to be hurt by that once she catches on to what your doing? I would make an argument about being the better person, but I doubt it will have any affect. Pilz's advice is probably the best you can work with, but he also has a point that no matter what you do (aside from not doing anything), you're in for a big mess.

Tiny Vessels
09-13-2012, 10:50 PM
I will never understand how guys can use girls for sex and not care if they hurt her by doing that.
It just seems fucked up.

WebDudette
09-14-2012, 12:01 AM
I will never understand how guys can use girls for sex and not care if they hurt her by doing that.
It just seems fucked up.

Yep, women have certainly never done something like that.

Lost; Hmm, fair argument. I'm not serious in any case, i was just giving you a hard time. I think we lost sight of one important thing though, All in All really doesn't give a shit about whether or not she enjoys it.

Outerspaceman21
09-14-2012, 12:34 AM
I will never understand how guys can use girls for sex and not care if they hurt her by doing that.
It just seems fucked up.

Both genders of guilty of this, but it still doesn't make it right for either side.

_Lost_
09-14-2012, 01:16 AM
Brian speaks the truth. I've known plenty of women guilty of the same thing, including a very, very good friend of mine.

Llamas
09-14-2012, 02:18 AM
Before this thread, I had no qualms with Allin. Thought he was okay. One thread later, and he sounds like a real sociopath. Says he wants to fuck a girl who has a boyfriend, says he doesn't care if she gets hurt, but also says it's not revenge... but says he is cool with manipulating her.

I feel bad for any girl who sleeps with you - must be the worst sex ever.

Gustavo
09-14-2012, 06:10 AM
Most of what I read in this thread is so fucked up, in so many ways. I'm truly disgusted.

Llamas
09-14-2012, 06:22 AM
Most of what I ready in this thread is so fucked up, in so many ways. I'm truly disgusted.

It's disgusting how many creeps this bbs attracts. We've had preocupado (or however you spell it), renato, and now this... I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking of right now.

MOTO13
09-14-2012, 08:09 AM
Most of what I read in this thread is so fucked up, in so many ways. I'm truly disgusted.

Four dead americans at the hands of pigs is disgusting. This thread, aside from the BS rape crap, is fascinating.

Get in Get on Get down Get off Get up Get dressed Get out.

Tiny Vessels
09-14-2012, 08:13 AM
Get in Get on Get down Get off Get up Get dressed Get out.

Lol no. Stay over.

Little_Miss_1565
09-14-2012, 08:35 AM
How is it that a band of 4 really nice guys seems to attract so many creepers?

Llamas
09-14-2012, 08:35 AM
Get in Get on Get down Get off Get up Get dressed Get out.
Lol, spoken like a true virgin.

MOTO13
09-14-2012, 08:55 AM
Lol, spoken like a true virgin.

It's a song song lyric.

Not trying to brag but...I have had sex before. Or, at least I was told it was sex.

btw...I just found you are a girl. I generally try to be nicer to chicks.

Tiny Vessels
09-14-2012, 09:04 AM
Of course you had to post Adam And The Ants lyrics.. Gross.

Gustavo
09-14-2012, 10:12 AM
It's disgusting how many creeps this bbs attracts. We've had preocupado (or however you spell it), renato, and now this... I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking of right now.

It's really gotten to the point where I really can't believe that there are people out there that would think like this and would actually want to make these sick thoughts public.


How is it that a band of 4 really nice guys seems to attract so many creepers?

I kinda wonder the same myself. But I guess the problem isn't really The Offspring, it's the internet. These weirdos have always been out there, but now there's a better place for them to do their thing. This BBS is just one of the many places online with lots of weirdos.

_Lost_
09-14-2012, 11:53 AM
How is it that a band of 4 really nice guys seems to attract so many creepers?
This.

Not only are they super nice, but they have a nearly flawless public image.

Lizardus
09-14-2012, 12:24 PM
This.

Not only are they super nice, but they have a nearly flawless public image.

Not even a badly lit sex tape.

KTILLA23
09-14-2012, 03:06 PM
How is it that a band of 4 really nice guys seems to attract so many creepers?

Same here, I'm not here to talk about some guy trying to screw a girl.

Godxilla
09-14-2012, 03:13 PM
That is a good song especially for St.Patty's day.
Anything by the Dropkix is awesome in March.

Same here, I'm not here to talk about some guy trying to screw a girl.

I have advice for you: don't post in this thread. I'm just here to joke 'round. If you're not, then, well, don't post here.

MOTO13
09-14-2012, 03:41 PM
Same here, I'm not here to talk about some guy trying to screw a girl.

But you'll buy music that has this exact message and think it's the coolest tune ever. God forbid someone actually talk about what most people think about 50% of the time. And by 50% of the time I mean closer to 99% of the time.

Little_Miss_1565
09-14-2012, 04:39 PM
Guys trying to screw girls (and girls trying to screw guys) is what makes the world go round.

Guys trying to manipulate girls into having sex with them who then ask for advice on a message board, which then brings all the creepshows to the yard...well, that's what makes burning the forum's server to the ground look like a better idea with each passing day.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-15-2012, 08:07 AM
Jesus Fucking Christ, a day of shopping and Llamas & LM have already vilified me. How am I not surprised?

First of all, to make it short, we already know this girl is morally bankrupt. What really confuses me, but frustrates me more, is how I'm supposed to make an ethical and moral approach to an unethical person. Really. Why should anyone have to play by your morality rules when it comes to someone who is morally bankrupt?

For the record, before we dated and after the break up seen different women. Some have broken up with me and I have broken up with some. Some women came back to me and some I came back to. The point is, with all these other women I have never tried this unethical approach (yes I already know it is) because I don't want to and I don't have a reason to. None of the other women have been completely devoid of a conscious and moral compass. Long story short, they are DECENT human beings. They obviously don't deserve any hurt just because they are decent to everyone around them. This isn't some "oh this whore hurt me so she deserves hurt too". The girl I'm talking about constantly lies to her friends and families, cheats on all her bfs, and really doesn't care who she hurts. Anyone. When I tried to get back or reconciliate with other ex gfs, or when they have tried do the same thing to me, I never thought about just using them for sex. If they just want to be friends then I'm all down for it. If they want another relationship, then I considered it heavily because I try to figure out the best for both.

So what really confuses me about this apparently morally rich forum, is why the fuck do I need to treat someone else in an ethical and moral manner when they sure as hell don't

For just for future reference, nobody mention rape anywhere. In any topic and for any circumstance nobody mention it because any time somebody mentions it, Little_Miss_1565 has to take it personally and make a crusade about it. I mean, just look at this thread. Sure, she admitted that she misreads Godzilla's post, but then she goes on to say that she wanted to make it clear what is date rape.

Little_Miss_1565
09-15-2012, 09:57 AM
Because the only behavior you have any agency over is your own. Your insistance that it's totally cool to try to manipulate/screw/screw over this woman that wronged you is a revenge fantasy, and it's really weird you're insisting it's not.

You don't get a free pass to do something ethically wrong because someone did something ethically wrong to you.

Llamas
09-15-2012, 12:29 PM
Because the only behavior you have any agency over is your own. Your insistance that it's totally cool to try to manipulate/screw/screw over this woman that wronged you is a revenge fantasy, and it's really weird you're insisting it's not.

You don't get a free pass to do something ethically wrong because someone did something ethically wrong to you.

This, and when someone treats me badly, I chew them out and then cut them out of my life. I don't ask for advice on how to manipulate them and hurt them in return. And I've been hurt by far worse than this. I may just be projecting here, but I kinda get the feeling that this is how most decent people respond to being treated badly. Your, "She did it to me, so why can't I do it back?" attitude is incredibly childish and is shit that won't even get you by on the playground anymore.

Outerspaceman21
09-15-2012, 03:10 PM
Because the only behavior you have any agency over is your own. Your insistance that it's totally cool to try to manipulate/screw/screw over this woman that wronged you is a revenge fantasy, and it's really weird you're insisting it's not.

You don't get a free pass to do something ethically wrong because someone did something ethically wrong to you.

I second this statement.

Harleyquiiinn
09-15-2012, 04:08 PM
Although I agree with what has been said and the fact that fucking that girl is definitely not the right solution and it doesn't matter what she did to him, I think that calling AllinAll "creepy" beyond level and having a discussion about why the band attracts such creeps might have been a little bit strong.

It's not like he was talking about torturing her in a cave but just fucking her, and he was very clear on the fact that it should be with her consent.

I have a friend who has been hurt by a girl the same way and well, he didn't act on it but he sure wanted to and that implied the same kind of behaviour. Truth is, he had been deeply hurt. And you're not the best at thinking when you are hurt.

And All in All, to answer you about "why do you need to treat her with in an ethical manner when she didn't". Well, nothing, really, but it's a matter of choice. Personnally, I don't want to be that kind of person. I know people who don't care and some are even my friends.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
09-15-2012, 07:37 PM
I think you people might have a point. I'll dwell on it.

samseby
09-16-2012, 01:31 AM
May not be the best place to post this = Was not the best place to post this ...

MOTO13
09-16-2012, 12:23 PM
Guys trying to screw girls (and girls trying to screw guys) is what makes the world go round.

Guys trying to manipulate girls into having sex with them who then ask for advice on a message board, which then brings all the creepshows to the yard...well, that's what makes burning the forum's server to the ground look like a better idea with each passing day.

Guys may manipulate girls for sex, but girls have long manipulated sex to get guys to do something for them or buy something for them etc.... One is no worse than the other. We all know why we are here, JUST DO IT.

AllIn All It's Not So Bad
10-22-2012, 05:10 PM
Talked to her. I settled on just making peace/being friendly because I don't think fucking her would bring anything positive. Got ignored. Now I'm just incredibly confused.

Women logic: Hey I am going to talk to my ex, try to make small talk, defend him, say nice things about him behind his back, etc. Brush him off when he talks to me.

I seriously think its because I brushed her off as bullshit. Now I'll never know what she wanted in the first place. Either way, reconciliation or not, I'm sure I can live with it.

Little_Miss_1565
10-22-2012, 06:54 PM
Sure it's not because someone sent her this thread of yours?

But seriously, if I extend the olive branch to someone and get ignored, I don't feel particularly inclined to go out of my way whenever that person gets around to feeling like getting back to me.

Godxilla
10-23-2012, 03:22 PM
Congrats on finishing this.
Get a new girlfriend and foret this whole thing. Got it?