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Fly White Guy
05-19-2005, 06:57 PM
Do you think he was on LSD in writing Alice's Adventures In Wonderland, and Through The Looking-Glass?

Eccentric Sara
05-19-2005, 07:02 PM
I heard somewhere that he was on opium. He was definately on something.

0r4ng3
05-19-2005, 07:04 PM
I actually heard something about this recently. Yesterday morning, no less. Strange coincidence, but I do believe he was on something.

Fly White Guy
05-19-2005, 07:07 PM
I kinda think he was. The fact that 'eat this side of the mushroom and you get taller, eat that side of the mushroom and you get smaller' kind of makes you think. Also drinking potions that will make you smaller and taller, and the tarts for that matter.

Still I've read that he wasn't on drugs.

Fly White Guy
05-19-2005, 07:18 PM
Let me be perfectly clear here Lewis Carroll didn't do recreational drugs. Certainly there were drug references in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and these were picked up on by people with interests in that area, particularly in the late sixties. That is not to say that Carroll never took Laudunum for a medical problem on the advice of a doctor. There is NO direct proof (in his letters or his diaries) that he ever took narcotic drugs. You might ask yourself why students insist that he did and why some teachers teach that he did.
Alice gets linked to the drug culture. No, Lewis Carroll did not use mind altering drugs to increase his creativity. He used his imagination. If you have one, it's better than drugs. If you don't, the drugs won't help you. With apologies to the late Timothy Leary.

This was off a site. So he might of been. But there is just about enough proof of him being on drugs as there is of him not being addicted. I guess, I'm not really sure.

Fly White Guy
05-19-2005, 08:30 PM
There has also been reference in this discussion to the Beatles song Lucy In The Sky of Diamonds which has been said to be related to LSD. Though the Beatle's have said it to be only a coinsidence it is still beleived by some.

Fly White Guy
05-19-2005, 08:41 PM
I don't know. I think.

Fly White Guy
05-19-2005, 08:46 PM
Or not. I't might not of been available in the 1800's. I'm still not sure.

Omni
05-19-2005, 08:47 PM
Was this taken from that Book of Lists? Also, coincedentally, I was reading that about 2 days ago.

Fly White Guy
05-19-2005, 08:49 PM
now acid (lsd) was not around until the 1940s when the good Dr. Albert Hoffman (bless his heart) was toying with some chemical compounds and it soaked through his skin.It was widely used from THEN on it didn't really lay dormat in society for anytime after 1950ish. But to say lewis carroll was on lsd is impossible unless he screwed with chemicals wich I doubt though he was well versed in many other things..

Yes, TripBoy was right. So it wasn't invented until the 1940's so it wasn't LSD.

aliceinwonderland
05-19-2005, 11:15 PM
i am not so sure lewis carroll was on something when he wrote alice. he was a priest and had a very big imagination so it is possible he didnt take any drugs. although they had more drugs then you think, its just that that was not called "drug" back then.

SkunkIt
05-19-2005, 11:35 PM
Do you think he was on LSD in writing Alice's Adventures In Wonderland, and Through The Looking-Glass? I heard it was based on some kind of math, but he was probably stoned too.

sk8rgurl_love_sk8rboi
05-19-2005, 11:40 PM
What are we talking about?

aliceinwonderland
05-19-2005, 11:40 PM
i see noone cares what i say but anyway: he WAS into math,logic,and photography

sk8rgurl_love_sk8rboi
05-19-2005, 11:43 PM
what your talking about is intresting . and i want to hear more.

aliceinwonderland
05-19-2005, 11:52 PM
anyway,he was born in 1932 and grew up into a miracolous writer and a photographer...
kidding.i know its boring and this is pretty much all i know.

Endymion
05-20-2005, 12:04 AM
1832, and he was a mathematician by profession.

sk8rgurl_love_sk8rboi
05-20-2005, 12:07 AM
were did you get all this info?

aliceinwonderland
05-20-2005, 12:14 AM
i dont know what you call it-final essay or what-in school.yeah well,i chose carrolls work. you can search the web and the good old library!

sk8rgurl_love_sk8rboi
05-20-2005, 12:20 AM
HA HA....your making me look stupid.

Not Ozymandias
05-20-2005, 01:04 AM
Do you think he was on LSD in writing Alice's Adventures In Wonderland, and Through The Looking-Glass?
Yeah, THAT'S an original theory.

What's your next brilliant observation, that Shaggy and Scooby Doo were on pot?
Pillock.

Not Ozymandias
05-20-2005, 01:04 AM
were did you get all this info?
Well, you know this thing you're using right now? It's called the internet and you can look up information on it.

Fly White Guy
05-20-2005, 08:53 AM
What are we talking about?

You know what? You can sk8 your little sk834 self out of here to your littl3 sk83rboi, and leave us at peace.

Fly White Guy
05-20-2005, 08:55 AM
Then there's all that stuff about him being a paedophile.
He wasn't. He said (In some interview or something) something about children. But he wasn't relating it to anything sexual.

Fly White Guy
05-20-2005, 08:57 AM
1832, and he was a mathematician by profession.

That's what one of my teachers said, and that he had alot of hidden math in his books.

I don't know
05-20-2005, 09:05 AM
Do you think he was on LSD in writing Alice's Adventures In Wonderland, and Through The Looking-Glass?
I'm sure abut that, I didn't know that, but now I understood why that fucking story is so non-sense, hehe :D

aliceinwonderland
05-29-2005, 07:59 AM
That's what one of my teachers said, and that he had alot of hidden math in his books.
told ya. :cool:

nieh
05-29-2005, 10:03 AM
I've never heard that he was on LSD, though I have heard he suffered from horrible migraines that caused flashes of light and darkness (which is where he came up with the Cheshire cat appearing and disappearing randomly) and also used a bit of opium (which may or may not have been on account of the migraines). Also, now that I think about it, LSD was invented in the 1930s or something and his books were written long before that.

Fly White Guy
05-29-2005, 12:53 PM
I can scarcely comprehend why you should have chosen to entertaon us with such a bewildering degree of stupidity, unless it spring from an unnatural, perverse desire to being passed off for the jerk you are not.

Maria

Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything. I was just wondering about it because I'm reading the books.

Fly White Guy
05-30-2005, 08:18 AM
Yeah, you're right, but in some parts of Wonderland it talks about "drinking this and growing" or "eating this and shrinking". Also when the eating (not the tarts) is a mushroom. I know now he wasn't on drugs, but when I made this thread I was curious.

Fly White Guy
05-30-2005, 08:26 AM
So it was just a thought, and his books are still most excellent. I enjoyed the Lobster Quadrille.

Fly White Guy
05-30-2005, 08:34 AM
I still believe The Garden of Live Flowers are intently rude.

Fly White Guy
05-30-2005, 08:42 AM
"Her face has got some sence in it, thought it's not a clever one!" and "If only her petals curled up a little more, she'd be all right." bit's made me laugh. The Alice began the threat of pulling the flowers. :D

Flexing Wings
05-30-2005, 08:46 AM
I heard somewhere that he was on opium. He was definately on something.

I heard that too, and as far as I know, tiz indeed true... FUCKING BRILLIANT! The ultimate in irony and paradox... beautiful.