I've never met a libertarian who could accurately describe what a "liberal" is. As you demonstrate when you say:
I don't think you know what a libertarian is
Libertarians are, by and large, incapable of registering nuances in terms of regulating markets. It's either, "I'm for a completely free market, because the free market will solve all of our social problems, if the big bad government can just get out of our business," or, "I can't believe you're for regulation! You want to regulate how much toxic Benzene a factory can emit in a year, that means you want to ban factories!" Even Rand Paul (libertarian poster boy and famed comparer of national healthcare to slavery) disagrees with that assessment.
we think that there has to be an approach that doesn't screw business/livelihood. We can't ban factories, sorry.
I don't smoke and I don't watch. But good job with the uninformed snap judgment; it fits in nicely along with the rest of what you said.
Otherwise liberals wouldn't get their precious weed or porn videos.
Exactly my point. I have made no such assertion that corporations or businesses are "evil," or even "bad." I'm all for business. Business is a necessary fact of life. At the same time, I don't believe that your right to do business to any extent and at any cost trumps my right to live in an environment that isn't a toxic waste dump; if we can prove that certain business models lead to higher rates of pollution, then I'd say that making sure the air isn't full of toxic fucking fumes that give people cancer (as happened at a facility in Arkansas) should take priority over making sure that an already-filthy-rich corporation makes a few more million dollars in one year.
For example, are you wearing clothes right now? Are you using the internet right now? Are you sitting in a chair? If not for these "evil businesses" that supposedly steal everyone's cash (while never leaving the office, funny), none of this would exist.
Let me get one thing straight before you fuck it up: we are not talking about "small businesses," we are talking about already-super-profitable industries, that knowingly violate existing EPA regulations, and try to justify de-funding the EPA on the grounds that "it's bad for industry" (which, when we look at the hard numbers, doesn't mean shit except "we'll make slightly less money this year," nevermind the fact that you're still so profitable that Forbes ranked you #2 on its list of profitable companies for 2010, raking in more than $100 billion in one year with a mere 67,000 employees nationwide).
That's what bugs me the most about the libertarian dismissal of the fact of climate change: it doesn't even deny that climate change is happening, for the most part. It simply asserts that it doesn't matter, that in principle, your right to a profit supersedes my right to be able to breathe natural air and not suddenly develop cancer. Forgive me if I disagree. I don't believe you really feel that way, but you know what? If you do, fuck you. As someone who has lived through cancer, I personally value life more than profit. And if corporations can charge me to clean up the air that they polluted just so I can breathe it, then they need to pay for fucking it up in the first place.
So think before you advocate the destruction of the world's economy, bitches. Sorry to rain down the truth, but the forecast can't be helped.
Anyway, maybe when I meet a libertarian who can get his/her facts straight for two posts in a row, I'll stop making fun of libertarians.
Lol. I did not even notice that. I just read it as "Australian."
Damn, I don't think I've ever made a typo in a thread title before (unless drunk). Can a mod fix it?
God, I love that "YEEEEAAAAAH" meme :D
That is beginning of the apocalypse, mother fuckers. And you are all going to hell. I guess you could say that the Lord is taking you... down under.